Winnebago View 24D Tour Including Modifications Winnebago Navion (Part 2)
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This is an interior tour of our 2020 Winnebago View 24D. It will be almost identical to the 2021 and 2022 model. This video will show some of the mods and customization that the previous video did not show. We purchased the Winnebago after comparing to the Leisure Travel Van Unity FX, Tiffin Wayfarer, Thor Delano, Jayco Melbourne Prestige, Entegra Qwest, Renegade Vienna/Valencia, Dynamax Isata 3, and other models in similar Sprinter based Chassis. All models had their pros and cons and we settled with the Winnebago.
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I've heard the acrylic dual pane windows scratch really easily and can get permanent haze...they're also over a foot smaller on each side of the coach...I purposely sought out a unit with the glass windows for those reasons.
Yes the acrylic scratches and won't last as long. That is actually the same reason I went with the glass sliders because I live in the desert and the sun is brutal on any types of plastic. My previous rv has dual pane glass sliders which was nice.
Nicely done with the video and the modifications. We bought a 2021 24D and soon realized it was a mistake. The total GVWR for the MBZ Sprinter chassis is 11,030 lbs and after the weight of the motorhome it leaves a OCCC or Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity of only 886 lbs and that is the total of the weight of my wife and I and our food and clothing and camping items and fresh water and black water. The fresh water, black water, and gray water tank have a total capacity of 112 gallons but if they were all full having a driver inside the RV would put it past the OCCC for the Navion. The advice is to have the tanks empty and stay at campgrounds with water and septic for each RV.
What we should have bought was a Class C motorhome that uses the Ford E450 cab chassis which has a GVWR of 14,500 lbs for a gain of 3,470 lbs of load capacity over the Mercedes Sprinter. The truth is that the Mercedes Sprinter 3500 cab chassis is ill suited for a very heavy motorhome like the Navion or the View from Winnebago.
I agree that is one big weakness of the Sprinter RV conversions. Your OCCC seemed like one of the worst. Mine is not much better @1030 pounds. I removed every accessory including the ladder, curtains, extra table and post and about an additional 75 pounds of stuff I didn't need. It still lacks a good usable OCCC. I'm not sure why the manufacturers don't use the sprinter 4500 cab chassis. It's the same frame with added leaf springs. Seems like even the same axles and tires but 1000 more gvwr rating. Still not as good as the E450 but better than the 3500.
Love your mods, clean and practical. Winnebago should watch this video.
I hope they incorporate some of these in future models.
I've been told that the blind in the kitchen is done like that per code. Those MTD shades can light up quick if there was a grease fire...❤🔥🔥
Yes I think that's right. But it can be done different also. You won't find any of those aluminum blinds on a higher end RV or even many cheaper ones or same competition as the View. My current has a foldable backsplash with mcd shade behind it, or they could install a shade with class A fire rating or for the View/Navion, the acrylic windows have a fabric integrated shade, but they shifted the window slightly left so it's not immediately behind the burner. Many ways to do it but ultimately up to the RV builder. Not sure why they don't do it for the View/Navion with such a high price point. These details are hard to notice when in purchase mode.
You should be mindful of your GVWR. We looked at a Winnebago Class C and it had a GVWR of less than 1000 pounds. That includes fuel, water, butts, and stuff. I think the fuel tank on the Sprinter is 25 gallons and if you have 60 gallons of water that’s almost 700 pounds. Two adults and two growing kiddos plus all that gear and you’re probably getting close. There should be a yellow sticker that shows the GVWR and the CCC. Look at that and then go to a CAT Scales at a truck stop and find out. The last thing you want to do is trash your engine and/or transmission as it would cost more than a new car to replace. This was a showstopper for us when we were looking at a new RV a few years ago. I do like what you’ve done here and I hope you enjoy your RV for many years.
Yes the carrying capacity is a challenge on all sprinter class Cs. They need to make it on the 4500 sprinter chassis.
Very well done. I really got a lot out of this as a guy in the research phase. Thank you!
Great to hear. Thank you.
You have by far the best Winnebago View videos on TH-cam! I saw the extra fresh water tank and wondered how you are doing against the max CCC of the View. I think the max is around 1100 pounds and that water would be over 200 pounds by itself.
You have to travel light. Either full the tank at the campground or if boondocking leave things behind. I did however remove every accessory that came with the View like the spare table and legs, sink covers, curtains, booster seats, microwave accessories, etc. I also removed about 100 pounds of extra cabling/wiring throughout the rv and metal panels in the wetbay. Still a challenge with occc regardless.
Blinds in the cooking area can't be flammable. That's why they're like that.
That is true, and every once in a while, a salesperson walk through will say that. But they do make shades that are flame retardant and approved. Other models have different shades if you look really close. Even Winnebago has different shades in the dual pane windows. The aluminum mini blinds however are the cheapest way to do it, and likely why they do it. They don't use those on any of the higher end motorhomes.
Great suggestions!
Thanks for watching and comment.
My solution to the bathroom door rattles is a six foot long pipe insulation that is slit lengthways which you can wrap around the whole length of the door. I especially like your suggestion to disconnect the center speaker. Radio sounds much better.
That's a nifty simple solution to the rattling door. I may take it apart someday to see if anything can be done internally. Thanks for the comment.
Oh and great mods...
Thank you
I love your Winnebago. The review and walkthrough was very thorough. The rig looks very well built. I’m sorry about the microwave. I’m noticing that some things in the rv stop working with little to no use. Hopefully you don’t get many of those hiccups. Thank you for you well rounded review and display of modifications you’ve made. Excellent video my friend.
Thank you. All the RV manufacturers and supplier sure could use improvement on quality control.
WOW! I really loved what you have done to this RV. I bought a View 2022 and I am so impressed with your detail information video and the mods you did. I am going to take a lot of your ideas and update my little home on wheels.
I get to pick up my RV in a couple of weeks. Ordered it in November 2020. Thank you for sharing your mods, your videos are super. France
Thank you. I hope you enjoy your 2022.
Great video. The magnetic trash can is brilliant.
Thank you. It's turning out to be one of our favorites.
Very nice tour! Love the mods you made especially the mat over battery access. Simple but it’s going to save on dirt getting into that area. I also agree with your comment about the leg extensions.
Thank you. I really like the mat as well. I tried several different ones but finally found one that does not move around.
@@rvlifediy from a safety perspective, the fire extinguisher move was also a good call! I think we might do that.
If you don't want to make new screw holes into the cabinet, you can use VHB Tape. Let the tape set (cure) for 3 days with the mount only, and than add the extinguisher. Otherwise the tape can fail due to the weight. Or just use screws. The original location was always rubbing on the ladder as well.
Very useful video. Where did you get the dual cup holders for the bathroom sink?
It was from Amazon. Check link below. The picture is weird but if you read the description, it includes the holder and the cups. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09BMN4GS4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
@@rvlifediyordered, thank you! How did you find it in the sea of Amazon items
@@alexzhu7073 I spend too much time shopping lol.
Thanks for such a detailed tour. We really need to add a handful of your mods to our van. I said to myself, “that would help!” A few times watching this :)
Thank you. I wish I could do more mods for a sprinter van itself but I only have the window covers, cab curtains, Weathertech matts, TPMS, and of course the Max air Fans. I don't recall seeing fans in your tour?
@@rvlifediy yeah we don’t have any fans 🤦🏻♂️ just an a/c that needs a 110v plug. Unfortunately we didn’t do any research when we got ours setup…. We got a handful of things we wish we had now that we’ve had her for a year. We still need to take the time to make it our own for sure. Just too busy with exploring, videos and work.
Awesome video! It is a Great comprehensive tour!!! Love the mods that you have done!! 👏🏼👏🏼 Great Job!
Thank you!
Another great video, picking up our 22D tomorrow and looking forward to traveling and doing some mods like these!!! Did you buy or make the shade for the bathroom window? Awesome job!! Following your channel......Craig
Thank you. Have fun with your 22D. The bathroom window shade was from Amazon. It fits inside the window channel perfect. RV Door Window Shade Cover, Sun Blackout Fabric for Camper Privacy Entrance (16 x 25 inch) a.co/d/51eTqzr
Great video. You have some very creative ideas. I have a 2020 24D and we love to travel in it. Fox shocks on order. 5 month wait. I'm upgrading to Lithium batteries for obvious reasons but also will gain 60 lbs carrying capacity.
Thanks Bruce. You will love the lithiums. Hoping you already have the Sumo Springs.
@@rvlifediy They're in. Thanks
Sure glad I have an older View with quality production and features not on the newer ones and dual pane windows cracked and haze over time been there done that
Yes it seems many of the older products made were better quality. These manufacturers sure like to take short cuts and still charge a premium.
Hey, I really like the mods you have done and are anticipating. We also have a Navion 24D on order (since August '21). Hopefully we'll see it in April / May.
The one mod that I really appreciate is the insulation of the wet bay. We will want to run our 24D up to Denver to see our grandkids summer and winter. Heck, here in Oklahoma the winter time is usually the best time to camp, if you can deal with sub freezing temperatures at night.
This will be our 4th motorhome (9th RV!) and every one requires modifications to make it the way we think it should operate. Yours are some of the best I've seen. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you. Hope you enjoy your 24D. For the wetbay, I couldn't explain all in the video, but it was major amount of work. I actually took out the entire shower during warranty time due to a major leak. Winnebago used the wrong fittings at the pex to hose connections. Hope they changed the fittings for your 2022 model. I reported it to the corporate office. I cut out all the original plumbing, raised, and replaced so the insulation panel could fit. You may find an easier method, but check your wet bay and look up, and you will see that all the plumbing pipes connect at that location, and are all exposed (hidden by the panel). I ripped mine out so I could also install my macerator. If the macerator wasn't installed, insulating the bay itself would have been easier. Enjoy your 24D and thanks for watching. If I was in Denver, I would also insulate the gray and black tanks. That job wouldn't be that bad.
Nice layout and good mods for space saving.
Thanks for watching
Many of your complaints are from your lack of engineering experience. There are good reasons why certain things are the way they are.
Didn't realize I was whining but then again, it was one of my earlier videos and just like today, hardly know how to video lol. Not sure I can agree with lack of engineering. How many decades of experience do you need before you can pass the lack of? Is there anything specific you saw? I can always make a correction.
That's really cool and tremendously awesome my friend
Thank you.
Thank you for this fantastic video. So much to learn from here. What are the measurements for your rug gable?
Hello, the rug in the video is 20 inches by 81 inches, but the original size was larger that my wife cut down so it fits perfect when the slide is in without having to fold it. We have another one that is 29.5 x 72.5. The smaller one in the video doesn't cover a good portion of the floor, so if you need more coverage it will be small. But you will have to put them away when the slide is in unless they are super thin to fit under the slideout blocking.
Great video with a lot of ideas. How did you secure the shoe rack where the ladder rack used to be hung?
The shoe storage has two grommet rings. I used a screw with a washer. One screw hole was the old hole for the ladder bracket, and I drilled one new hole. At the bottom od the show storage i used double sided tape. Hope that helps.
I have a couple of questions. How comfortable is the couch? Also, what you know today about your Winnebago View 24D, would you still purchase one today? I like the mods you did. Thanks for sharing. I will watch your other outside video. One last thing - given the price point of this RV, and I don't understand why Winnebago went cheap on the hinges, cabinet openers, and the mini blinds. You'd think paying $170K-$150K for a brand new RV at that price point they would have given you products that are premium quality.
Those are some tough questions. The couch is just OK. All the cushions at the couch and Dinette could use a heavier dense foam. The TV position does not work for the couch. I think some of the components use is not due to being cheap. Whoever planned it, didn't make enough effort in procurement. You can get similar items for the same cost. As for if I would buy again, that is a tough one. Time is short in life so yes I would buy again. If I didn't need as much space, I would have bought a Leisure Travel Van but I need the space. When I purchase my next RV, I would seriously consider others first but still look at Winnebago after. Winnebago's price point does not match the qualityexpected. Quality is not any better than other production coaches even though i hear people say its better all the time. I do like their exterior design the best though.
@@rvlifediy Yeah, if LTV would start selling models with the over-cab bunk, a lot of people would be more interested in them. They really are purely a couples of solo motorhome only. Even though I only have one kid, I would never buy one just for that reason.
@@j.foobar1764 I had an LTV lined up for purchase and changed to the View at the last moment. The LTV was way too small on the inside. Have a friend with an LTV and glad we did not go that route.
Thanks for sharing such detailed information! I have really enjoyed watching your TH-cam. I am picking up my 2022 View 24D from Texas and drive it all the way to Southern California next week. How exciting! By the way, where did you purchase that nice looking rug? I would appreciate a link if you have one. Thanks again!
I bet you are excited. The rug is by "Ruggable" you can by direct. Check their runners. The come in 7 ft and 10 ft length. My wife cut down the width and put edge binding on after. Hope that helps.
Hey, great video! Do you have any more info about your slide switch mod?
There is a blog you can check out called thoseyoungguys.com winnebago view 24d upgrades. I do not know them at all but they have an actual write up. The same switch set up is used in the newer views. Hope that helps.
Great video and mods. Strongly considering this model. I do not think you are missing out on anything by not adding the dual pane windows. In this model the dual pane units are plastic and much smaller than the standard single pane glass units. I think the dual panes would offer little benefit in terms of insulation value and you give up a lot of natural light with the smaller dual panes.
Thank you. The plastic dual pane was my concern living in the desert, and I opted not to get them. I've seen the same windows in ocean boats, and all the European RV's so there must be something good about them. Having dual pane in my other RV's (glass) though, it does make a big difference in heating cooling, and sound travel. I know the R value is practically nothing, but something about dual pane makes a big difference. The single pane that Winnebago uses in this model is crap though and other manufacturers use a better window. Good luck you your search. I enjoy the View even with all the items I can complain about. Thanks for watching.
Where did you find the clamps for the bathroom closet bar? Great idea!
Amazon. Check the link in the description. It's the very last one but the exact model I got is unavailable. There will be others recommended that are similar any any of them should work.
In your video you discuss the custom overcab fitted sheet. You state you do not remember where you had it made. Would your records tell you? We would be interested.
Yes I found it. It was a website AB Lifestyles. They have winnebago sheets, but when I purchased mine, they only had up to a 2019 model and the overhead cab design changed in 2020. So I sent them my own measurements and they made to my measurements. I'm not sure if the 2019 format would have fit or not. It's probably the same but I didn't want to take any chances.
Great video. Can you tell me please what size Ruggaable you got? It looks perfect! It doesn't interfere with the slide when it comes in, correct? Thanks you!
Hi Amy, the ruggable is 20 inches wide by about 81 inches long. My wife cut down the width and put edge binding on it. And yes it fits perfect with the slide in and why we have it that size. You could also just fold a larger ruggable in half when the slide is in. Not ideal that way but would work.
Great video, super interesting mods, thanx!
Thank you for watching.
You didn’t show the TV’s they don’t look stock?
They are not. They are both LG smart TVs. I showed them in the previous video, so I tried not repeating the same mods. Thanks for watching.
Awesome mods. Great ideas for our Dynamax Isata 3. Aren't you concerned about exceeding your Cargo Carry Capacity? CCC
OCCC is always a concern with these Sprinter chassis. I don't carry any of the stock assessories that come with my floor plan, and also have removed unnecessary stock parts Winnebago installed. Not perfect but it will have to do.
Loved your mods! Great video. Thank you. Does the 2020 come with a slide-topper. We looked at a 2020 Wayfarer yesterday that did not have a slide topper. We are going to look at a View tomorrow.
Thank you. Yes the View comes with a slide topper. The Tiffin Wayfarer started doing the slide toppers in 2021. Not sure why they didn't do them prior years.
Do you have any photos or video of how the privacy curtain (between cab and living area) was installed - how the track bar is held in place?
I don't have picture but a really simple explanation. I removed the factory ladder bracket that left two holes on the right hand side. I used 1 hole the bracket left behind for the bar and drilled a very small second hole. It magically lined up exactly on center with no modification to the bar. The left side of the bar was also attached with 2 small (long) screws. It was a really simple install as long as you have a screwdriver and a small drill bit to drill through the bar for the screw. Let me know if you need more info. nvmutts@gmail.com
I heard the pocket door to the bathroom is a real rattler? Is it true, if it is, how did you stop it. I'm waiting for my 2022 Navion, was supposed to be delivered this month, now July - Grrrrrrr.
Yes the pocket door rattles like crazy. I put a piece of hard foam on the guide at the bottom, as well as some foam up on the top. It helps with the rattle, and now is barely noticeable but still rattles on some occasions. To do it right, you would have to remove the door and install a guide on the door latch rod. The rod that goes up into the track to keep the door open or closed (latched) is what rattles. It can be fixed. Winnebago should do it at the factory but who knows if they ever will. It's not an overly complex fix, but the manufacturer should be the ones doing it. Good luck on your 2022.
We have a 24D on order ( ordered 4 months ago, 7 months to go until delivery 😩)
I REALLY appreciate this video, lots of great info w/ must haves!!
Can I get that link to the trashcan, drawer liners, shower head & closet hanger stopper? 🙏🏼😁
Oh so exciting. The 24D has some quirks and you have to have patience to work them out. I just put up the links. I'll try to find that hanger stopper. It was made for something else if I recall, but I thought it would work perfect as a nice stopper. I'll post back once I find it. It's going to be a long 7th months. Hang in there:)
I added the closet stopper link. You will have to sand the inside of the stopper to have it slide smoothly. It's a real tight fit without sanding it.
@@rvlifediy Thanks!
Good afternoon, for the bathroom faucet aerator, did you already have one in there to remove? Mine does....so does it just unscrew and will using a small screwdriver help? Thanks for any input...Craig
Hi Craig, the faucets will always have an aerator. You need to switch them out to a low flow. The View has two type of faucets. One just like mine that you get screw off the end. If you have that type, the aerator and the rubber gasket just pops out with your finger.
If you have a different type of end on your faucet, let me know.
@@rvlifediy I went and double checked and there is very fine line where the current aerator is connected, so fine you cannot see it but can feel it. Will get a rag and some pliers to remove it tomorrow (tried to do it by hand but to tight and can't get a good grip on it) and put on the new aerator.....thanks for the tip.
@@craigbenson52 I've seen 2 faucets on the View that look exactly the same but are different in 2020 to current year models. They look exactly the same, but one of them do not have a screw off end like mine (the accumulator video shows it better). If you have the other kind, send me an email and I can show you how those work.
@@rvlifediy let me know where to email them…. Thanks
@@craigbenson52 Go to the about section of my youtube page and the email should be there.
Nice!!!
Can I ask where you are from? Your accent is neat! Swedish Denmark? Or is this a an east coast accent? lol
Way Northern MN near Canada border.
I pick up a 2022 24d in June and will need to set it up using many of your tips, thank you. As far as the bedding set up goes, were you able to find those Beddy's sheet s that are 60' x 75"? Also, how hard was that water tank installation under the bench seat. Did you put a valve between the tanks so you could isolate them and their use?
Dave
Hi David, for the beddys for the murphy bed I just ordered their queen size which fits correctly. The water tank was about a 6 out of 10 in difficulty. Check the comments in the outside tour video. One of the comments I have a private video link that explains the tank install and yes I did install an isolation valve. Let me know if you have more questions.
I found the link but it is in the private part of your TH-cam library. Could you add me as a guest please? I am down sizing from a class A which had 100 gallons of fresh. My wife gets really annoyed when I comment on her water usage😖
@@5290harp know the feeling. We downsized as well and same 100 gallons. It was my very first mod knowing it was going to be an issue. I shopped the new tank size before the RV purchase. Try the link now. It should work.
@@rvlifediy Thanks so much. It looks like a project I can handle. I can see that I will have to develop a new sensibility regarding weight when I use the new View, but I look forward to the ease of driving, and the smaller size will help me find more places to camp.
Yes it's much easier to zip around, and we do go to many places we haven't before. I personally don't even use a toad anymore. Taking a little break from towing a car for a while.
You have a nice rv. how much would something like this cost?
Their MSRP is shown on their website. Some people are able to negotiate 20-30% off but not sure with these current pandemic prices. It seems they are charging more than they used to.
any issues with winterization Is it difficult ?
Winterizing is really simple. There is a winterize hose in the wetbay and the truma water heater is really simple to drain. The manual has a good explanation as well as a good video from Lichtsinn RV on youtube.
GADGET MAN😳
😎 Go go gadget
Lots, a lot, not tons. Tons = weight. 🤣
Not in my world lol. I remember my English teacher saying that one time. I should have listened to him better.
Correcting a stranger’s English is alot or even tons of rudeness.