I can also tell you with certainty in this scenario the ancient Britons didn't originally set up that plaque, it was the ancient world superpower supreme, the Roman's, who conquered Britian in 43 CE, and essentially ruled all of modern-day England, Wales, and periodically controlled areas of southern and central Scotland (Caledonia) for 400 years until basically leaving in 410 CE to help defend other regions of a ever-dimishing empire.
In the end, Canada's true path to becoming a country was long, boring and with a lot of talking. Not so much the action movie that was American Independence.
USA didn’t try any revolts against the British at that time, so I don’t know why you make it sound like a parent being proud of his kid following in in his footsteps.
After the War of 1812 though, America and Britain worked in every way possible to avoid future conflicts (although relations were very sour for several more decades). The Oregon Territory is an example of this. Even when America broke away in the 1770s and early 1780s, they had critical French help. I'm not sure where Canada thought they might get powerful support, as the US definitely wasn't that interested.
A few things to add: - Lower-Canada also declared independence as a republic, with patriot Robert Nelson as president. The declaration was very progressive for the time, in particular with regards to First Nations. - The reason Durham recommended the fusion of both Canadas was to assimilate the French through demographic and political drowning. He was extremely harsh on the French, calling them "a people without history or culture". - The fusion of both Canadas was largely beneficial to the English-speaking Upper-Canada, which had incurred a significant public debt, whereas the French-speaking Lower-Canada had spent much less in infrastructures because the undemocratic English political elite did not care about the well-being of the French citizenry. So Lower-Canada ended-up bailing out Upper-Canada. - Basically, when the English-speaking settlers in Canada (mostly American Loyalists) were a minority compared to the French-speaking population who had settled there many generations ago, they insisted and obtained to have their own separate province, Upper-Canada, in which they would be a majority. As soon as demography favoured them, the English obtained the reconstitution of a united Canada.
Not to mention also that in the Parliament of the United Province of Canada, both the French and English side got the exact same number of seats, despite the French outnumbering the English 3 to 1. This was intentional, to make sure that the French would not be in control. However, the moment when the English population outgrew the French, seats were redistributed to make sure the English had more.
@@rampantmutt9119 lol No, in Quebec we had a great culture. Canada borrowed everything from us. Everything you know as Canadian comes from us. We had our own literature, music, dance, food, language, philosophy. We had everything, it all changed with the 60’s and the Quiet Revolution that was done by communists to Secularize Quebec and take it out of its roots.
Wilhelm II. Just a small mistake in your logic. It wasn’t that the British letting certain territory’s keeps there culture and religion that came back to bite them. If they hadn’t then the territories would have been in constant rebellion
Actually, that's basically what we did here in Nova Scotia, getting the first "responsible government" in the British Empire. (edit: Well, for a little while, anyways, until Britain and the Canadas decided to rope us and New Brunswick into Confederation...)
@@ogrejd And then we got excited about sending troops to put down the western rebellions and forgot Nova Scotia was and to this day is hosed in Confederation. lol
Britain: the overbearing dad France: the nice mom America: the rebellious oldest child Canada: the well behaved younger brother Australia: the crazy youngest son Spain: the crazy uncle.
New Zealand:the youngest brother no one knows about because they're always in Australia's shadow South Africa: the step brother Portugal:Spain's twin brother Brazil:Portugal's son and the cousin Argentina Mexico etc: Spain's children and also cousins Italy:The chill uncle Ireland:Britain's nemesis neighbor
I always love to see videos on Canada but I was confused by the title. We generally refer to these events as the Rebellions of 1837-38, not the Canadian Revolution (some quebecois might call it a revolution). Also, Papineau is pronounced like “papi-noh” not “papi-new”
Nah, I've never heard it called a revolution in Quebec. It's a rebellion. Revolutions overthrow the existing system and the only revolution in Quebec history is the Quiet Revolution of the 1960s (which refers to a massive cultural transformation, not armed conflict).
Wasn't 'Lower (French) Canada' called Acadia until the Brits sent them on their way? And wasn't the word Canada bastardized Athabascan for Kanata just like the capital (or the river) Ottawa pronounced Odoway? And in upper Canada isn't Sault Ste. Marie still considered the 3rd oldest (white pilgrim) settlement in North America behind Montreal, and St. Augustine?
I grew up about a quarter of a mile from Montgomery's Inn, the tavern then several miles west of Toronto where MacKenzie & his compatriots planned the Upper Canada portion of the rebellion. Walked by it every day going to high school. So I feel I have a tiny bit of skin in this game. MacKenzie's middle name Lyon is pronounced "lion" & Louis-Joseph Papineau's name is pronounced Papin O as in boat. I love these snippets & am constantly amazed by how much detail you manage to cram into a few short minutes. Thanks.
Quebecer here, (French (Lower) Canadian) Lord Durham, the new governer that unified the two colonies is seen here as a bad figure in our history. He was highly racist toward french Canadians, calling them an inferior race, without history or culture. He also stated that Quebec was the only one to blame for the whole revolution. The principal objective of the act of union was mostly to assimilate the french canadian, not to create a fair union of states. It failed, since we still have our language, history and culture :) PS. While the rest of Canada celebrate Victoria day on may 25th (queen's birthday). We in quebec have Patriot's Day on the same date, to celebrate Papineau's rebellion.
@@TheCaptainSplatter In my opinion, never. The last referendum was extremely close in 1995, and was finally decided by the mostly english speaking and americanized city of Montreal, which was also home to the vast majority of immigrants who identified more with being Canadian than Quebecer and maybe didn't understand fully the power dynamics between provinces and federal governements. (ask an Immigrant where he's moving, and he'll say proudly "Canada" not Quebec) Today, the new generation are more and more americanized, and identifies more as "Canadians" at home and abroad. There is a mass exodus of young people leaving the regions in favor of larger cities, especially Montreal. There are also even more immigrants than back then, who won't identify with the culturally unique Quebecer identity. We have a saying about this change "Avant l'anglais, on l'apprenait pas... On lui sacrait une volée" roughly translated to "we used to beat up the english (person), not learn it (language)" The political party whose whole identity was centered around Quebec Independance is basically gone today. (Our current PM used to be a member of)
@@TheCaptainSplatter TROC (the rest of Canada) is Québec's colony. Quebeckers cross the Ottawa River and make a bunch of laws in Ottawa that apply to TROC but not Québec. They have their own tax and immigration laws. Everyone in Québec know how much the poorer provinces get in transfer payments but none of them know they are net recipients of these payments as well. The only people that truly wanted Québec to separate were people from Newfoundland as they figured it would take 8 hours off their drive to Toronto to see their cousins.
Meanwhile in Australia: "Hey Britain can we make a new country called the Commonwealth of Australia" UK "Why not become a dominion like Canada and New Zealand?" Aus "We want states and a senate and maybe some colonies and stuff" UK "You're making me proud son. Here is a quarter of Antarctica and British New Guinea as a parting gift." Aus "Thank you so much UK, now we are going to become a democracy and give women the right to vote." UK Crying to itself* "The child we always wanted" USA "Okay, this is weird."
Probably because the British Parliament didn't want to provoke another uprising? There was a small miners revolt that looked a lot like a last stand at the Alamo but like the Alamo the defenders were doomed. Not too many people know about that revolt. It was really over before it began.
@Troy Bailey Yeah Australia has always been seen by the British as their most successful colony. In the modern day they are a powerhouse in their own right and the bastion of the West in the East
I like how this video is called "THE Canadian Revolution" as if there was only one. Lets not forget the Red River Rebellion and the North West rebellion both led by the Metis Louis-Riel
@@alanpennie8013 The two rebellions led by Louis Riel and Gabriel Dumont were anything but minor affairs. They shaped modern Canada and the western provinces and played a tremendous role in the subjugation and ongoing discrimination of Metis and aboriginal peoples in Canada. The rebellions further drove the wedge between English and French Canada due to the Metis predominantly speaking French.
@@capitalistball2924 That's up to the residents of the state to decide. It happened to Virginia. That's why we have a separate state called West Virginia.
You know why we Canadians are so often thought of as nice and polite? Because the people who find out otherwise don’t typically survive the experience to tell of it.
@@selfiekroos1777 yeah other countries miss it. It is the British side magnified. Other countries are like hey polite americans but no the Americans are nicer and more polite they can just be louder and more brash. Canadians have much more murk behind their civility. Winters make them tough though. Lots of primary industry keeps a large portion of the population level headed and ernest.
Canadian Revolution: “Can we please have reforms?” “No” “Then we’ll get our guns and be independent, sorry.” “No” “Well can we have anything?” “You can have one Canada instead of two Canadas” “But why would we wan-“ “You can have one Canada instead of two Canadas” “Yes mother.”
"For most men, that's no time at all. We are NOT most men. We are REVOLUTIONARIES. We will make these hours count!" - a random French-speaking gent in Canada, somewhere in late 1830s (texted).
Canadians are actually some of the rudest people. I live in Canada and I’ve seen so many backstabbing jerks. Quick tip: Come to Scarborough to see WHAT IT’S REALLY LIKE :)
I'm sad you didn't mention the fact that we got a parliament out of Durham's recommendations. The revolution was the last time that the Governor General used their dictatorial powers in Canada, from then on they always accepted whatever the parliament decided.
There was a real concern with some merit in London that the new and growing USA would try to lay claim to Canada, either by settlement or by force. Thankfully the Mexicans gave us an excuse to fight them!
@@rileycreep6358 That's what I was taught in high school, but it's not actually right. The GG was entirely correct in that scenario. If there is another option to form government, the GG can exercise their discretion if they feel an election is unnecessary. See: 2017 British Columbia. I think the true exercise of responsible government in Canada was the Hippolyte-Lafontaine government after the Durham report.
You missed most of the Arctic when you cut and paste your map. But the minefield of discussing Louis Riel's sedition would be a nice follow-up to this.
From what I remember from highschool, the French Patriots movement wasn't for independence. The members couldn't agree on that point, but they all wanted reforms for French Canadian's right and representation, since they were persecuted, ruled by English merchants and excluded from pretty much everything.
And he was insane. He held seances to consult his dead mom, had a dead dog stuffed and spoke to it, and would only make a decision if the hands on his clock formed a straight line.
@@Hollywoodin2001b also was a lifelong bachelor, and wrote in a diary every day for years. At the time he died, he had around 40,000 pages worth of content that was eventually made public.
lol Canada succeeded to be semi independent in 1867 in the North americas act or something which instantly made Canada a dominion and no more a province of Britain
Thank you for acknowledging that most of Canada’s provinces today have only recently become part of Canada. I did hear about how in the American revolution Nova Scotia had a movement to join the rebellion and was called the 14th colony for a while, might be something cool to look into 🙂
@@ninjakidfuntime29 Nunavut. NW Territories have been around since Hudson's Bay sold their land to Britain, Alberta and Saskatchewan were both carved out of it at different points, as Nunavut would be much later. Easy way to remember is that Nunavut is mostly Native, and is run by Natives, not something that the government would have been okay with further back.
"eau" in french is pronounced "o". Also lord Durham's "reform" also included burning French Canadian villages and putting interdictions of teaching French in Acadian schools while the English speaker's revolt was so swept under the rug so throughly that most English speaking Canadians don't know they revolted with us at the time.
Great to see a more obscure set of historical events covered! Though the rebellions led directly to the Act of Union, it also lay the foundations for responsible government in Canada, which came into effect in the late 1840s
This is amazing... I only know about this because I either randomly wiki'ed the Post Libel, or heard about it from the Technical Difficulties... it's something that I would think would be below even History Matters's radar!
Another event of canadien revolution was the Red River Rebellion. In 1869, Canada was just a new born nation looking to expand its influence over all of the newly published ruperts land when the Métis majority took over the local British fort and proclaimed self rule over the territory, eventually creating the province of Manitoba. I vastly simplified it and I’m no where near an expert on the topic, but it’s quite interesting and I would recommend anyone interested in Canadien history to check it out.
Canada got what it wanted in small bits from and following from the revolution. It's like the slow revolution, and honestly Canadians might have pushed harder for full revolution if they weren't so concerned about U.S. invasion.
FUN FACT: Lord Durham made a note book of all recommendations for reform and that same note book was used for other colonies to stop potential rebellions.
Really enjoyed this video. If you ever decide to do another Canadian topic I think the Fenian raids in 1866 and the early 1870’s would be really interesting to hear you talk about
The quebecors rebelled because the anglos wanted to assimilate them, and after lord durham concluded that there was nothing such as « french canadian culture » while chuckling
It’s probably better to think of these as two separate risings since, though they did occur at the same time for similar reasons, they had very different goals. The Lower Canada Rebellion, for example, was particularly distinct and had great importance going forward. Led by the self-styled Patriotes, the rising escaped Papineau’s (pronounced Pap-e-noe) control quite quickly and, following the example set by France, aimed to set up a radical, liberal Quebec republic. Though they failed, the Patriotes and the rising were one of the earliest expressions of a distinct French Canadian nationalism and set the basis for the development of a self-aware Quebec identity later in the century
Honestly, I'm Canadian and I didnt even know about this. It's like we're so ashamed of that one time we weren't nice we decided to just never talk about it again.
@@jordanberndt4157 I'm from Alberta and we covered it in school, though not in depth. But then I find few people from Ontario were taught much if anything about the North West rebellion. And unless you are from the Maritimes you aren't taught about the Acadians. Unlike most countries we have yet to develop a "standard" national history / mythology.
The more significant Canadian Revolution happened on March 16, 1994 when Doug MacNeil of Kitchener decided to politely tell the employees at his local Tim Hortons that they got his usual coffee order wrong. He had been waiting to speak up for 14 years. He apologized for inconveniencing them and for raising his voice in an indoor setting.
Well not really the government asked nicely the British said no to all 92 demands a full scale revolution started putting up farmers with shovels and pitchforks against the best army at the time. Entire villages were burned by the British many were killed 12 were hanged and many many more were sent in exile to Australia. Not counting the people whom’s houses were pillaged and burned as they were assumed to be partisans of the rebellions.
America took its freedom on the backs of musket-toting badasses. Canada stumbled into its freedom the same way a 15-year-old boy loses his V-card - he did it with his socks on.
@@brycelandon6387 i mean america received so much surpport at the time from other super powers who sent them troops etc to train up american civilians into proffesional soldiers. Add into the fact Britain was dealing with other wars at the time and the public opnion about the war in the states was shifting and british public were tired of it then you go yourself the making of an independence. For the most part the american independence was a series of british victories but in the end it was just too much for the british to continue. Public didn't want the war anymore, other superpowers and multiple countries got invovled, they were fighting other people the same time and it was expensive and boom you got ur asnwer.
Is it just me that finds the phrase: "and then things started to turn a bit radical" to be a hilarious understamtment for rebellions. I think it should be used to describe more of these kinds of events: 1789, France: There was a grain shortage, leading to higher food prices, while the aristocracy lived to total luxury, and then things started to turn a bit radical. 1917, Russia: The tsar refused to end the war with Germany, there there was a food shortage, and then things started to turn a bit radical. The 1930s, Any country in Europe: The Great Depression lead to economic collapse, and a dispeling of the false sense of security that was brought about by the ending of "The War to End All Wars", and then things started to turn a bit radical.
As a Canadian I am somewhat proud of how we are as a people. Generally regarded as polite, we tend to show our teeth when needed and when pushed become fairly fierce warriors, evidenced by our involvements in World Wars and events such as these (and hockey lol). Even today, JTF2 flies under the radar yet those in the know understand its a force to be reckoned with. Pretty cool :)
Tiny possible "correction": in the name William Lyon Mackenzie, people here (I'm from Toronto) say "Lyon" like the word "lion" and "lie-on", not "lee-on". Although I wasn't around 200 years ago to ask him. Mackenzie's 1837-1838 uprising in Upper Canada was tiny.
Canada: Aye dear father can I have my Independence and if I need to fight you then I'm not sorry! America: CoMe aT Me YoU GOdDAm REdCoAtS!! iM fRee noW!!
By the time of that Canadian rebellion, the US govt preferred the status quo. I suspect this a reason for this was that the US capitalist ruling class was benefitting from trade with the British Empire.
A couple of other interesting things about this: a) After these "rebellions" (they are referred to as "rebellions" rather than "revolutions" in Canada), the British sent over Lord Durham as Governor General of Upper and Lower Canada with instructions to figure out what the heck was going on. Lord Durham's report made a number of recommendations. The most significant one was that the Governor General step back from "running the colony" (i.e. vetoing bills passed by the colonial legislature) and become a "constitutional monarch" style Governor General, much as what had existed in Britain since the early 1700's. This wasn't really adopted until 1849 when the Governor General signed "The Rebellion Losses Bill" which the English population celebrated by then burning down the legislature building (They perceived that it was giving compensation to the French who had rebelled against English rule). However this became the template for governing the rest of the British Empire going forward, or at least those parts that had large "settler" populations. (In Canada, this is referred to as "Responsible Government") b) William Lyon Mackenzie, the leader of the rebellion in Upper Canada quickly fled across the border to the U.S. to avoid being hung. The Americans greeted him like a hero of the American Revolution. Mackenzie then began setting up a provisional government for the Republic of Upper Canada. Volunteers began trickling in from various parts of the U.S. This being just after the 'Texas Revolution' in which American settlers broke free of Mexican tyranny so as to allow them to continue owning slaves (slavery had been abolished in Mexico), this seemed very much like the same thing: oppressed people rising up to gain their freedom. However the British were watching all this and eventually they decided they had had enough. So they sent a gunboat across the Niagara River to wharfs in Buffalo and sank the boat that had been supplying Mackenzie's little republic. The U.S. Government wasn't very pleased at this. However, the British argued that it was pretty obvious what was going on, so they had every right to strike back first. The American Government, not having done so well the last time they'd gone to war with Britain (1812) wasn't all that keen on giving it another try, so they let things stand. About 25 years later, the American Civil War is going on and suddenly a small Mexican port city very near the border with Texas suddenly starts doing a booming business, bringing in all sorts of items that can't make their way through the American blockade of the Confederate States of America. The U.S. Government then pulled out the previous incident involving Mackenzie and his little government and said, "Well, this is like that." The British, having set the precedent, had to more or less agree. However, some 50 years later, WW1 is going on and the Netherlands finds itself completely surrounded by German or German-Occupied territory. Britain once more pulls out the idea of 'anticipating harm' and puts a blockade on neutral Netherlands and only let through goods that are for domestic consumption. Fast-forward again to 2004 and George W. Bush announces that Sadam Hussain has "weapons of mass destruction". So, anticipating that he plans on using them, he engages in a 'preventative invasion' of Iraq.
Only we now know that Bush was lied to (Deepstate) and legally speaking we should NOT have invaded Iraq but instead asked the UN to double down on sanctions on Saddam Insane, who probably would have been deposed anyway....by radical Islamists! So yeah, the Middle East is a quagmire.
The 'full-scale' revolt in Lower Canada was, in fact, pretty much limited to Montreal and to areas near the city, i.e. neighbouring villages, the Richelieu Valley and the area near the U.S. border south of Montreal. The rest of Lower Canada remained very much quiet, on account not only of the well-garrisoned stronghold in Quebec City but also of the influence of the local Catholic clergy, who had been alienated by Papineau's anti-clericalism, and of the opposition of the powerful land-owning aristocrats, both English and French-speaking, who saw the revolt as a liberally-inspired threat to their power.
One of those times where had one thing been different, the whole outcome could have shifted. Had he been a devout catholic appealing to the upper class, who knows.
This conflict was actually the main reason Canada (and later other British settler-colonies) got self-government. There probably would have been a lot more armed rebellions in these colonies (e.g. in the Australian colonies) later on had this not set a precedent, so it's pretty important!
The 2 Canadas were united the make the french Canadiens minority in the Canadien goverment since Lower Canada now had to share his with upper Canada. It was also made to facilitate the assimilation of the french population.
One of my ancestors was sentenced in Absentia to be hanged for his role in the rebellion to the Family Compact. He escaped to Texas, where he died of yellow fever. And another was a member of the Royal Engineers, in Canada, about the same time. I'm perversely proud of both of them.
My favorite description of Canada ever!.....John Oliver: "Canada....when Great Britain and America had a baby and left it out in the snow"....😂still chuckling over that one :)
We never really called it the Canadian Revolution we just call it the Upper Canada Rebellion. At least in my Province since ours was the Red River Rebellion
@@marjanp No it's not, a rebellion is (uncountable) armed resistance to an established government or ruler while a revolution is a political upheaval in a government or nation-state characterized by great change.
When I was in school many years ago, both were referred to as the Rebellions of 1837. They were armed uprisings that didn't immediately accomplish much. They did wake up England as they didn't want any more wars in North America that could lose them the Canadas.
Ok few things. 1) I know it was probably for the clicks, but the conflict is usually called the "rebellions of 1837" or the "upper Canada/lower Canada rebellions" over here. 2) I feel that you kind of overstated how widespread the LC rebellion was. Whilst it did have a decent amount of support, they only really won one battle against the British army (Battle of Saint-Denis). They were crushed in every other conflict. 3) The impact was massive. Both Canadas were non functioning "democracies" before this point. As you mentioned, only the upper class could vote. It was a feature the British had put in place after the American Revolution when loyalist refugees were streaming across the border. They thought the commoners couldnt be trusted with democracy. Part of Lord Durham's report called for responsible government. It meant Canada got actual democracy. These political forces eventually inspired politicians like the fathers of confederation to unite Canada. Also now that we're on the topic, please do a video on the attempted American invasion of Quebec during the Rev War.
There are actually quite a few revolts and rebellions in Canada’s history such as the Red River Rebellion and the North-West Rebellion which lead to the formation of the province of Manitoba.
Fun fact: William Lyon Mackenzie was the grandfather of Canada's longest-serving Prime Minister, William Lyon Mackenzie King. WLMK is on the $50 bill, led Canada in WWII, and would talk to his dead grandfather via seances (and others, including his dead dogs).
I guess differences with the US's road to independence being relatively more quick and violent compared to ours being a much longer more polite and paperwork filled affair kinda seems to set the respective stereotype's for Canadians and Americans
Canadian History teacher here: There is no such thing as the Canadian Revolution. What this person is talking about is known here in Ontarwio as the Upper Canada Rebellion. It was highly localized, poorly organized and shut down almost immediately after it started. It did send the signal to Britain that they needed to look closer at the governance of British North America and inspired the Durham report, which did bring representative democracy. It most certainly WAS NOT a revolution in the same sense as the American or French Revolution. It was a small, isolated incident that cost very few lives and resulted in Britain creating a system of governance in the territory. The same thing happened in Lower Canada, but since the people were French speakers vs. English speakers it definitely took on a more nationalistic tone, but ultimately could only accurately be described as local unrest or a rebellion at best. Neither of these were revolutions.
Canada: Hey America since you guys talk big about getting rid of the British, freedom and liberty and all that will you help us with our independence? America: Yes, but actually no.
the time in history when America was a pussy to the British after the War of 1812. Then America grew bigger balls and deep pockets and became the Dos XX man of the world
@@genesis6d7 The Vritish did recognize antagonizing the USA over time was a vad idea, as the US was vecoming more powerful over the years relative to the Vrits, and that Canada would ve threatened more and more.
The Hunters' Lodge arose among Lower Canadian refugees, which recruited both Canadians and Americans. The U.S. Army sent troops into Canada to help the British quell the rebels. Ironic, given our own revolution. :)
@@crowbar9566 I've read a bit on the subject and can't recall anything about American troops in Canada, so I'm afraid I'll have to remain skeptical for the time-being.
Fun fact, the Journée des Patriotes has pretty much nothing to do with the first Monday preceding May 25th aside from the fact that the PQ in 2003 wanted something to further drown out Victoria Day in Quebec
@@Xerxes2005 Victoria is the embodiment of the British Empire, considering her long reign, and Montreal more than any other city in Canada flourished under her rule.
i imagine somewhere in London, since ancient times, there's a plaque that displays the amount of days since the last rebellion in the empire.
😂😂 "We have had (180) days without a rebellion, let's keep the Empire safe and go for 2 years!" 😁😁
I can also tell you with certainty in this scenario the ancient Britons didn't originally set up that plaque, it was the ancient world superpower supreme, the Roman's, who conquered Britian in 43 CE, and essentially ruled all of modern-day England, Wales, and periodically controlled areas of southern and central Scotland (Caledonia) for 400 years until basically leaving in 410 CE to help defend other regions of a ever-dimishing empire.
*It's been 0 days since last rebellion*
(Next day)
*It's been 0 days since last rebellion*
The most recent rebellions have been by people wanting to stay in the Empire.
@@allenjenkins7947 good
The Canadian Revolution is often reenacted after hockey games.
As a Canadian hockey player, you’re 100% correct
Only after a Canadian team enters the playoffs.
DURING hockey games. Sorry.
@@pixlplague that's of course sorry pronounced with a long o.
Well it is in Canadian Folklore that the first official hockey game ended in massive brawl
As a Canadian, I can tell you our revolt is probably one of the least climactic in history
I went in mildly intrigued, but by the end i thought "im not sure what i expected but im not surprised."
In the end, Canada's true path to becoming a country was long, boring and with a lot of talking. Not so much the action movie that was American Independence.
Yes, Shoot first then apologize.
I live Washington but we talk a surprising amount of Canada
How Canada became Canada was vimmy ridge
Canada: *starts a revolution*
U.S.A.: I’m so proud.
Great Britain: Don’t encourage him!!!
Lol
USA didn’t try any revolts against the British at that time, so I don’t know why you make it sound like a parent being proud of his kid following in in his footsteps.
@@sevinceur1766 Do the American Revolution and the War of 1812 ring a bell?
Jeffrey Pierson This was after, hence why I said “at that time”.
After the War of 1812 though, America and Britain worked in every way possible to avoid future conflicts (although relations were very sour for several more decades). The Oregon Territory is an example of this. Even when America broke away in the 1770s and early 1780s, they had critical French help. I'm not sure where Canada thought they might get powerful support, as the US definitely wasn't that interested.
A few things to add:
- Lower-Canada also declared independence as a republic, with patriot Robert Nelson as president. The declaration was very progressive for the time, in particular with regards to First Nations.
- The reason Durham recommended the fusion of both Canadas was to assimilate the French through demographic and political drowning. He was extremely harsh on the French, calling them "a people without history or culture".
- The fusion of both Canadas was largely beneficial to the English-speaking Upper-Canada, which had incurred a significant public debt, whereas the French-speaking Lower-Canada had spent much less in infrastructures because the undemocratic English political elite did not care about the well-being of the French citizenry. So Lower-Canada ended-up bailing out Upper-Canada.
- Basically, when the English-speaking settlers in Canada (mostly American Loyalists) were a minority compared to the French-speaking population who had settled there many generations ago, they insisted and obtained to have their own separate province, Upper-Canada, in which they would be a majority. As soon as demography favoured them, the English obtained the reconstitution of a united Canada.
"Everyone I don't like has no history or culture" - political proverb
Not to mention also that in the Parliament of the United Province of Canada, both the French and English side got the exact same number of seats, despite the French outnumbering the English 3 to 1. This was intentional, to make sure that the French would not be in control. However, the moment when the English population outgrew the French, seats were redistributed to make sure the English had more.
@@notahandle965 In the cases of Canada, the United States of America, Australia, and New Zealand, this is true.
"WhY DoEs QuEbEc WaNtS tO SePeRaTe" they said and keep saying, english history class don't teach that to their students
@@rampantmutt9119 lol No, in Quebec we had a great culture. Canada borrowed everything from us. Everything you know as Canadian comes from us. We had our own literature, music, dance, food, language, philosophy. We had everything, it all changed with the 60’s and the Quiet Revolution that was done by communists to Secularize Quebec and take it out of its roots.
"I'm NOT sorry." - Canada
We eventually said sorry after that.
This is the canadian equivalent to Hail Hidra
je suis désolé
Its not "sorry," its Sorey.
*soory
A list of reforms:
-Be Good
-Don’t be bad
I can see why the British couldn’t accept this very realistic list of reforms
no
The British government still struggles with that, it's almost a defining characteristic
Lol. Get rekt noobs. The British Empire was Great. If you say it wasn't, then you're butthurt.
@Wilhelm II. The German empire was also great. It was a shame Britain and Germany fought. They're brothers.
Wilhelm II. Just a small mistake in your logic. It wasn’t that the British letting certain territory’s keeps there culture and religion that came back to bite them. If they hadn’t then the territories would have been in constant rebellion
So the time Canadians didn’t say please when asking for freedom.
Actually, that's basically what we did here in Nova Scotia, getting the first "responsible government" in the British Empire.
(edit: Well, for a little while, anyways, until Britain and the Canadas decided to rope us and New Brunswick into Confederation...)
@@ogrejd And then we got excited about sending troops to put down the western rebellions and forgot Nova Scotia was and to this day is hosed in Confederation. lol
Turns out you catch more flies with honey :3
The British Crown would like to know your location...
@@protonmaximum6193 You're halfway to Freedom, keep going. Cut some royal heads off if you have to.
*Britain:* "Canada! Are you being rebellious??"
*Canada:* "Sorry, I'll calm down."
*Royal Navy armada shows up*
"You said something, mate?"
"No sir."
Britain: the overbearing dad
France: the nice mom
America: the rebellious oldest child
Canada: the well behaved younger brother
Australia: the crazy youngest son
Spain: the crazy uncle.
Germany: the strict aunt
Russia: the babushka
Time to rewatch Hetalia, I guess!
New Zealand:the youngest brother no one knows about because they're always in Australia's shadow
South Africa: the step brother
Portugal:Spain's twin brother
Brazil:Portugal's son and the cousin
Argentina Mexico etc: Spain's children and also cousins
Italy:The chill uncle
Ireland:Britain's nemesis neighbor
“The nice mom” I cannot sufficiently express the sarcastic laughter this elicited from me
UK: No Independence
Canada: "I am slightly upset"
UK: "Sweats in British"
Normie
Switzerland: "Farts in irrelevance"
Janeen Phayne Nah you’re the normie here
@Vasilijan Nikolovski shush centrist
@@Account-jn7xu Lol. Indeed.
I can hear the dialogue of the Canadian Revolution now.
"I'm not your friend, buddy!"
I'm not your buddy, guy!
@@nb2008nc I'm not your guy, friend!
@@Torus2112 I'm not your friend, buddy!
@@jamiekoenigstaff2533 I'm not your buddy, guy!
@@misschauchatcultistbernie2740 I'm not your guy friend!
I always love to see videos on Canada but I was confused by the title. We generally refer to these events as the Rebellions of 1837-38, not the Canadian Revolution (some quebecois might call it a revolution). Also, Papineau is pronounced like “papi-noh” not “papi-new”
in quebec we call it la rébellion des patriotes
edit: wasn't guerre but rébellion
Nah, I've never heard it called a revolution in Quebec. It's a rebellion. Revolutions overthrow the existing system and the only revolution in Quebec history is the Quiet Revolution of the 1960s (which refers to a massive cultural transformation, not armed conflict).
Maybe our You Tuber is imitating an Anglophone Upper Canadian with a willed ignorance of the way French is normally spoken.
If it had been successful then we would call it a revolution, but it wasn't so we don't.
Wasn't 'Lower (French) Canada' called Acadia until the Brits sent them on their way? And wasn't the word Canada bastardized Athabascan for Kanata just like the capital (or the river) Ottawa pronounced Odoway? And in upper Canada isn't Sault Ste. Marie still considered the 3rd oldest (white pilgrim) settlement in North America behind Montreal, and St. Augustine?
I grew up about a quarter of a mile from Montgomery's Inn, the tavern then several miles west of Toronto where MacKenzie & his compatriots planned the Upper Canada portion of the rebellion. Walked by it every day going to high school. So I feel I have a tiny bit of skin in this game. MacKenzie's middle name Lyon is pronounced "lion" & Louis-Joseph Papineau's name is pronounced Papin O as in boat. I love these snippets & am constantly amazed by how much detail you manage to cram into a few short minutes. Thanks.
Quebecer here, (French (Lower) Canadian)
Lord Durham, the new governer that unified the two colonies is seen here as a bad figure in our history.
He was highly racist toward french Canadians, calling them an inferior race, without history or culture.
He also stated that Quebec was the only one to blame for the whole revolution.
The principal objective of the act of union was mostly to assimilate the french canadian, not to create a fair union of states.
It failed, since we still have our language, history and culture :)
PS. While the rest of Canada celebrate Victoria day on may 25th (queen's birthday). We in quebec have Patriot's Day on the same date, to celebrate Papineau's rebellion.
vive le sacrifice des patriotes !
On a gardé la tête à Papineau finalement ;)
When you guys gonna be independent?
@@TheCaptainSplatter In my opinion, never. The last referendum was extremely close in 1995, and was finally decided by the mostly english speaking and americanized city of Montreal, which was also home to the vast majority of immigrants who identified more with being Canadian than Quebecer and maybe didn't understand fully the power dynamics between provinces and federal governements. (ask an Immigrant where he's moving, and he'll say proudly "Canada" not Quebec)
Today, the new generation are more and more americanized, and identifies more as "Canadians" at home and abroad. There is a mass exodus of young people leaving the regions in favor of larger cities, especially Montreal. There are also even more immigrants than back then, who won't identify with the culturally unique Quebecer identity.
We have a saying about this change
"Avant l'anglais, on l'apprenait pas... On lui sacrait une volée" roughly translated to "we used to beat up the english (person), not learn it (language)"
The political party whose whole identity was centered around Quebec Independance is basically gone today. (Our current PM used to be a member of)
@@TheCaptainSplatter TROC (the rest of Canada) is Québec's colony. Quebeckers cross the Ottawa River and make a bunch of laws in Ottawa that apply to TROC but not Québec. They have their own tax and immigration laws. Everyone in Québec know how much the poorer provinces get in transfer payments but none of them know they are net recipients of these payments as well. The only people that truly wanted Québec to separate were people from Newfoundland as they figured it would take 8 hours off their drive to Toronto to see their cousins.
Meanwhile in Australia: "Hey Britain can we make a new country called the Commonwealth of Australia"
UK "Why not become a dominion like Canada and New Zealand?"
Aus "We want states and a senate and maybe some colonies and stuff"
UK "You're making me proud son. Here is a quarter of Antarctica and British New Guinea as a parting gift."
Aus "Thank you so much UK, now we are going to become a democracy and give women the right to vote."
UK Crying to itself* "The child we always wanted"
USA "Okay, this is weird."
It's still no Republic
Probably because the British Parliament didn't want to provoke another uprising? There was a small miners revolt that looked a lot like a last stand at the Alamo but like the Alamo the defenders were doomed. Not too many people know about that revolt. It was really over before it began.
@Troy Bailey As an Australian, this makes me profoundly uncomfortable
@@marsupialmole3926 Why? Britain was not the worst Empire to be the offspring of.
@Troy Bailey Yeah Australia has always been seen by the British as their most successful colony. In the modern day they are a powerhouse in their own right and the bastion of the West in the East
I like how this video is called "THE Canadian Revolution" as if there was only one. Lets not forget the Red River Rebellion and the North West rebellion both led by the Metis Louis-Riel
It's that word "rebellion".
It indicates it was a minor affair.
@@alanpennie8013 The two rebellions led by Louis Riel and Gabriel Dumont were anything but minor affairs. They shaped modern Canada and the western provinces and played a tremendous role in the subjugation and ongoing discrimination of Metis and aboriginal peoples in Canada. The rebellions further drove the wedge between English and French Canada due to the Metis predominantly speaking French.
@@alanpennie8013 I'd say Louis-Riel was far more important than the pathetic attempt of the patriot.
There was no revolution. Just rebellions. No state was overthrown.
The French Revolution was definitely the only revolution in France's history.
I find that "Stars, yo" written on the American flag extremely funny. :)
Given the amount of us flag changes over the years, I am willing to accept that as the new national flag.
I think 1959 to Present is the longest time the US Flag hasn't changed.
@@pepperVenge not until Puerto Rico becomes a state or California breaks apart.
@@black10872
california ain't ever gonna break apart. The U.S wouldn't allow that.
@@capitalistball2924 That's up to the residents of the state to decide. It happened to Virginia. That's why we have a separate state called West Virginia.
You know why we Canadians are so often thought of as nice and polite? Because the people who find out otherwise don’t typically survive the experience to tell of it.
And those that do tell others to be nice to Canada if they don't want to find out what Canada would do to them if they anger Canada 🇨🇦
There was a very good and very violent reason the Germans hated us in the Great War.
But now I kno- aw crap RUN!
Canadians are not nice. They are insanely passive aggressive.
@@selfiekroos1777 yeah other countries miss it. It is the British side magnified. Other countries are like hey polite americans but no the Americans are nicer and more polite they can just be louder and more brash. Canadians have much more murk behind their civility. Winters make them tough though. Lots of primary industry keeps a large portion of the population level headed and ernest.
Canadian Revolution:
“Can we please have reforms?”
“No”
“Then we’ll get our guns and be independent, sorry.”
“No”
“Well can we have anything?”
“You can have one Canada instead of two Canadas”
“But why would we wan-“
“You can have one Canada instead of two Canadas”
“Yes mother.”
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@@abdul_7x Yes.
Lmaaaaoooo
America: this is a Revolution
UK: *dear God*
America: there's more
UK: *NO*
Edit: (RIP Rick May)
I have done nothing but start revolutions for 3 days!
Gentlemen, synchronize your revolution watches.
"For most men, that's no time at all. We are NOT most men. We are REVOLUTIONARIES. We will make these hours count!"
- a random French-speaking gent in Canada, somewhere in late 1830s (texted).
Tell me, did anyone here manage to kill a Redcoat? No? Then we still have a problem.
@@-et37- and an axe
[Insert joke about Canadians being polite]
You should see them in sporting events especially in Baseball and Hockey, politeness is none existent in those instances.
In case of an American invasion to Canada, the Canadian plan is to stay at home, ask us nicely to leave and hope we get bored and return.
@@LZin-uk5nh Wrong, In the Case of an American Invasion, we light up the many fields of Marijuana, Invasion is cancelled due to the munchies
French Canadians aren't polite :P
Canadians are actually some of the rudest people. I live in Canada and I’ve seen so many backstabbing jerks.
Quick tip: Come to Scarborough to see WHAT IT’S REALLY LIKE :)
I'm sad you didn't mention the fact that we got a parliament out of Durham's recommendations. The revolution was the last time that the Governor General used their dictatorial powers in Canada, from then on they always accepted whatever the parliament decided.
There was a real concern with some merit in London that the new and growing USA would try to lay claim to Canada, either by settlement or by force. Thankfully the Mexicans gave us an excuse to fight them!
Durham also recommended the French Canadian be forcefully assimilated.
The governor general shut down parliament under the last PM.
If I do recall, William Lyon Mackenzie king in the 30s is the real reason the Governor General has no real power
@@rileycreep6358 That's what I was taught in high school, but it's not actually right. The GG was entirely correct in that scenario. If there is another option to form government, the GG can exercise their discretion if they feel an election is unnecessary. See: 2017 British Columbia.
I think the true exercise of responsible government in Canada was the Hippolyte-Lafontaine government after the Durham report.
You missed most of the Arctic when you cut and paste your map.
But the minefield of discussing Louis Riel's sedition would be a nice follow-up to this.
An appropriate time to appear in my suggestions.
Fun fact: I went to the same high school as Louis-Joseph Papineau. I only missed him by a century or two...
Canada: *revolts*
Everyone else: you weren't supposed to do that
Brandell Von Almire
America: Wooooooo yea!
Canada:...sorry.
There are french in canada, then there is nothing surprising 🤷🏻♂️
@@bipboup7761 Well, actually due to a bill passed in the early 1770s, the French Canadians had the same rights as British Canadians.
Still to this day
Britain: don't revolt and submit
Canada: uno reverse card: sorry mate
So Britain revolted and submitted then ?
@@1queijocas it would be funny though
@@1queijocas but who did they revolt against tho maybe the monarchy
@@1queijocas Yeah, this really makes no sense at all. Of course the internet continues to circle jerk Canada even when they fail badly.
No, that would be "sorry, bud". Mate isn't really used here outside of biology.
Egypt sees Canadian naming conventions:
I see you're a man of civilization as well
Vastly underrated comment!
From what I remember from highschool, the French Patriots movement wasn't for independence. The members couldn't agree on that point, but they all wanted reforms for French Canadian's right and representation, since they were persecuted, ruled by English merchants and excluded from pretty much everything.
It wasn't for independence, but for responsible government and representative government.
@@louisd.8928 And here I thought it was over which end of the soft boiled egg was to be opened first.
William Lyon Mackenzie's grandson later became Canada's longest-serving Prime Minister, William Lyon Mackenzie King.
Bit of a nutcase tho...
@@falconajc4113 yes... the seances namely.
And he was insane. He held seances to consult his dead mom, had a dead dog stuffed and spoke to it, and would only make a decision if the hands on his clock formed a straight line.
@@Hollywoodin2001b also was a lifelong bachelor, and wrote in a diary every day for years. At the time he died, he had around 40,000 pages worth of content that was eventually made public.
@@Gameflyer001 think Regan without a strong wife.
Canada: Britain, give me freedom, or else I'll politely ask you again!
You do know Canada lost right?
Don't make me ask politely a second time!!!
lol
Canada succeeded to be semi independent in 1867
in the North americas act or something
which instantly made Canada a dominion
and no more a province of Britain
Canada and the UK still have strong ties to each other though.
@@gutsjoestar7450 its called the BNA act or british north america act
Thank you for acknowledging that most of Canada’s provinces today have only recently become part of Canada. I did hear about how in the American revolution Nova Scotia had a movement to join the rebellion and was called the 14th colony for a while, might be something cool to look into 🙂
Did u know that either nunavut or the north west terretorjes were made in 1999😯
@@ninjakidfuntime29 Nunavut. NW Territories have been around since Hudson's Bay sold their land to Britain, Alberta and Saskatchewan were both carved out of it at different points, as Nunavut would be much later. Easy way to remember is that Nunavut is mostly Native, and is run by Natives, not something that the government would have been okay with further back.
"eau" in french is pronounced "o". Also lord Durham's "reform" also included burning French Canadian villages and putting interdictions of teaching French in Acadian schools while the English speaker's revolt was so swept under the rug so throughly that most English speaking Canadians don't know they revolted with us at the time.
Great to see a more obscure set of historical events covered! Though the rebellions led directly to the Act of Union, it also lay the foundations for responsible government in Canada, which came into effect in the late 1840s
great video. in the USA they didnt teach us much about canada so it was nice to get this quick over view of Canadian history.
William Lyon Mackenzie's rebellion was actually more like 30 guys holed up in a tavern. One cannon brought a swift end to it.
Well, there were only 40 people living in Canada at the time, so that was a pretty big deal.
Some did escape to Navy Island near New York and hang out there for awhile
eh, it was big enough I had ancestors on both sides of that battle
His descendent (grandson?) made up for it though by becoming our longest-serving Prime Minister.
Fun Fact: William Lyon MacKenzie was the first mayor of Toronto
And so was Wolfred Nelson the first mayor of Montreal
Thank you🙏 for your support.
This is amazing... I only know about this because I either randomly wiki'ed the Post Libel, or heard about it from the Technical Difficulties... it's something that I would think would be below even History Matters's radar!
Another event of canadien revolution was the Red River Rebellion. In 1869, Canada was just a new born nation looking to expand its influence over all of the newly published ruperts land when the Métis majority took over the local British fort and proclaimed self rule over the territory, eventually creating the province of Manitoba. I vastly simplified it and I’m no where near an expert on the topic, but it’s quite interesting and I would recommend anyone interested in Canadien history to check it out.
Americans during the war: Oh boy they finally got around to revolting.
Americans after the war: I had so much faith in you.
Canada got what it wanted in small bits from and following from the revolution. It's like the slow revolution, and honestly Canadians might have pushed harder for full revolution if they weren't so concerned about U.S. invasion.
@@lukeh2556
Slow revolution exactly. The existence of the USA was itself a warning to the Brits that they needed to accommodate colonial aspirations.
@Ginger Surely you mean cup or mug of coffee?
FUN FACT: Lord Durham made a note book of all recommendations for reform and that same note book was used for other colonies to stop potential rebellions.
As an Anglo Quebecer, I still see abunch of Le Patriots flags around the province, mostly in rural areas.
I really enjoy the American flag with just "STARS" written on it.
You, sir, are great at making minimalism hilarious!!
Really enjoyed this video. If you ever decide to do another Canadian topic I think the Fenian raids in 1866 and the early 1870’s would be really interesting to hear you talk about
we in school and the rest of Canada call it the rebellion of 1837-38 we never really called it the Canadian revolution
yup
Exactly (although much of the people here in Québec celebrate "Patriots day" instead of Victoria day in honour of the damn traitors).
Konstantinos Nikolakakis are you really a traitor if you rebel against your invaders?
The quebecors rebelled because the anglos wanted to assimilate them, and after lord durham concluded that there was nothing such as « french canadian culture » while chuckling
Saguntum-Iberian-Greek Konstantinopoli After he said that,countless historians published books,in the end durham was false.
"I'm upset"
*gets shot*
Gods I love that
All of them
Pagan dogwhistle
*thud*
Thanks. Never heard this succinctly explained.
It’s probably better to think of these as two separate risings since, though they did occur at the same time for similar reasons, they had very different goals. The Lower Canada Rebellion, for example, was particularly distinct and had great importance going forward. Led by the self-styled Patriotes, the rising escaped Papineau’s (pronounced Pap-e-noe) control quite quickly and, following the example set by France, aimed to set up a radical, liberal Quebec republic. Though they failed, the Patriotes and the rising were one of the earliest expressions of a distinct French Canadian nationalism and set the basis for the development of a self-aware Quebec identity later in the century
Nice, the next Canadian video you should do should cover the Métis Red River Rebellion, and the North-West Rebellion.
"papi-no" and "lion" not like "lyon", france (we definitely allowed americanization of the word to take hold) if you want proper pronunciations. :)
Honestly, I'm Canadian and I didnt even know about this. It's like we're so ashamed of that one time we weren't nice we decided to just never talk about it again.
Nah, you just didn't pay attention in your history class
Are you from out west? You may not have spent alot of time on this
@@x999uuu1 Yeah, I went to school in Alberta.
@Jordan Berndt Embarrassment is very British
@@jordanberndt4157 I'm from Alberta and we covered it in school, though not in depth. But then I find few people from Ontario were taught much if anything about the North West rebellion. And unless you are from the Maritimes you aren't taught about the Acadians. Unlike most countries we have yet to develop a "standard" national history / mythology.
"Don't be French"
-British Empire
*angry maple noises*
I love that upper canada is on the bottem and lower canada is on the top of maps.
For cartographers, "lower" and "upper" typically refer to the way the local rivers flow. This is also why "Lower Egypt" is north of "Upper Egypt"
The more significant Canadian Revolution happened on March 16, 1994 when Doug MacNeil of Kitchener decided to politely tell the employees at his local Tim Hortons that they got his usual coffee order wrong. He had been waiting to speak up for 14 years.
He apologized for inconveniencing them and for raising his voice in an indoor setting.
:0
Classic Timmys
When DO they get our coffee right!? I've stopped going. That's my rebellion.
Thank you for covering this. Our own history classes dont even make mention of this (at least the ones I've taken on Canadian history).
Carl Sandhop it’s a shame this is the real reason why Canada exist today. I’m from the USA I love learning about this.
Our history classes do
@@zedxyle That's good to know!
What? Yes they did. If you live in Ontario, you learned of this in grade 7 history when you covered pre confederation Canada
@JustEnd Yeah BC, that makes more sense...
It’s not much of a revolution, they basically asked nicely and then said sorry afterwards. All that matters is the syrup is safe.
Well not really the government asked nicely the British said no to all 92 demands a full scale revolution started putting up farmers with shovels and pitchforks against the best army at the time. Entire villages were burned by the British many were killed 12 were hanged and many many more were sent in exile to Australia. Not counting the people whom’s houses were pillaged and burned as they were assumed to be partisans of the rebellions.
America took its freedom on the backs of musket-toting badasses. Canada stumbled into its freedom the same way a 15-year-old boy loses his V-card - he did it with his socks on.
@@thomassutton3608 At what point did we burn down the White House? Nobody seems to want to talk about that LOL
@@brycelandon6387 i mean america received so much surpport at the time from other super powers who sent them troops etc to train up american civilians into proffesional soldiers. Add into the fact Britain was dealing with other wars at the time and the public opnion about the war in the states was shifting and british public were tired of it then you go yourself the making of an independence. For the most part the american independence was a series of british victories but in the end it was just too much for the british to continue. Public didn't want the war anymore, other superpowers and multiple countries got invovled, they were fighting other people the same time and it was expensive and boom you got ur asnwer.
@@brycelandon6387 /But, we still got there . didn't we ?
You always pick the best topics for your videos!!
*sees video title, then video length*
Damn he went into depth on this one.
Thanks for making a video on my great-great-great-great-great grandfather. :)
I didn’t even know they had one, I thought England just kinda forgot about you
The Brits have occasional lucid intervals.
The unification of the two Canadas has been surprisingly successful.
There was no rebellion and nobody forgot about anyone. Canada remains part of the Commonwealth.
@@alanpennie8013 A significant portion of Quebec would disagree.
You didn't even know we had one because we didn't - we had a rebellion (contrary to what another poster claimed).
Read about the secret Canadian/American Patriot Societies that continued after this from 1842-1847.
Wow i have a test on this on Thursday thank you this popped up in my recommended and i needed this
Oddly enough, I was born and raised here in Canada, but this is the first time I’m hearing about this.
I believe it should be pronounced Papin-o, eau in French being pronounced "o"
Also, as a lifelong Canadian, I've *always* heard William Lyon Mackenzie's middle name pronounced as "lion".
r/whoosh
my ears hurt every time his name was used
Is it just me that finds the phrase: "and then things started to turn a bit radical" to be a hilarious understamtment for rebellions.
I think it should be used to describe more of these kinds of events:
1789, France: There was a grain shortage, leading to higher food prices, while the aristocracy lived to total luxury, and then things started to turn a bit radical.
1917, Russia: The tsar refused to end the war with Germany, there there was a food shortage, and then things started to turn a bit radical.
The 1930s, Any country in Europe: The Great Depression lead to economic collapse, and a dispeling of the false sense of security that was brought about by the ending of "The War to End All Wars", and then things started to turn a bit radical.
I know! Sometimes I have to pause and take in what he just said and laugh because how casually he says it. Its great
As a Canadian I am somewhat proud of how we are as a people. Generally regarded as polite, we tend to show our teeth when needed and when pushed become fairly fierce warriors, evidenced by our involvements in World Wars and events such as these (and hockey lol). Even today, JTF2 flies under the radar yet those in the know understand its a force to be reckoned with. Pretty cool :)
Tiny possible "correction": in the name William Lyon Mackenzie, people here (I'm from Toronto) say "Lyon" like the word "lion" and "lie-on", not "lee-on". Although I wasn't around 200 years ago to ask him. Mackenzie's 1837-1838 uprising in Upper Canada was tiny.
I live in upper Canada, Ontario, and I may have learned about this a long time ago but thanks for the refresher! Very interesting!
Canada: Aye dear father can I have my Independence and if I need to fight you then I'm not sorry!
America: CoMe aT Me YoU GOdDAm REdCoAtS!! iM fRee noW!!
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By the time of that Canadian rebellion, the US govt preferred the status quo. I suspect this a reason for this was that the US capitalist ruling class was benefitting from trade with the British Empire.
A couple of other interesting things about this:
a) After these "rebellions" (they are referred to as "rebellions" rather than "revolutions" in Canada), the British sent over Lord Durham as Governor General of Upper and Lower Canada with instructions to figure out what the heck was going on. Lord Durham's report made a number of recommendations. The most significant one was that the Governor General step back from "running the colony" (i.e. vetoing bills passed by the colonial legislature) and become a "constitutional monarch" style Governor General, much as what had existed in Britain since the early 1700's. This wasn't really adopted until 1849 when the Governor General signed "The Rebellion Losses Bill" which the English population celebrated by then burning down the legislature building (They perceived that it was giving compensation to the French who had rebelled against English rule). However this became the template for governing the rest of the British Empire going forward, or at least those parts that had large "settler" populations. (In Canada, this is referred to as "Responsible Government")
b) William Lyon Mackenzie, the leader of the rebellion in Upper Canada quickly fled across the border to the U.S. to avoid being hung. The Americans greeted him like a hero of the American Revolution. Mackenzie then began setting up a provisional government for the Republic of Upper Canada. Volunteers began trickling in from various parts of the U.S. This being just after the 'Texas Revolution' in which American settlers broke free of Mexican tyranny so as to allow them to continue owning slaves (slavery had been abolished in Mexico), this seemed very much like the same thing: oppressed people rising up to gain their freedom.
However the British were watching all this and eventually they decided they had had enough. So they sent a gunboat across the Niagara River to wharfs in Buffalo and sank the boat that had been supplying Mackenzie's little republic. The U.S. Government wasn't very pleased at this. However, the British argued that it was pretty obvious what was going on, so they had every right to strike back first. The American Government, not having done so well the last time they'd gone to war with Britain (1812) wasn't all that keen on giving it another try, so they let things stand.
About 25 years later, the American Civil War is going on and suddenly a small Mexican port city very near the border with Texas suddenly starts doing a booming business, bringing in all sorts of items that can't make their way through the American blockade of the Confederate States of America. The U.S. Government then pulled out the previous incident involving Mackenzie and his little government and said, "Well, this is like that."
The British, having set the precedent, had to more or less agree. However, some 50 years later, WW1 is going on and the Netherlands finds itself completely surrounded by German or German-Occupied territory. Britain once more pulls out the idea of 'anticipating harm' and puts a blockade on neutral Netherlands and only let through goods that are for domestic consumption.
Fast-forward again to 2004 and George W. Bush announces that Sadam Hussain has "weapons of mass destruction". So, anticipating that he plans on using them, he engages in a 'preventative invasion' of Iraq.
Nice train of justifications! Thanks
Only we now know that Bush was lied to (Deepstate) and legally speaking we should NOT have invaded Iraq but instead asked the UN to double down on sanctions on Saddam Insane, who probably would have been deposed anyway....by radical Islamists! So yeah, the Middle East is a quagmire.
Nice essay
@@christianfreedom-seeker934 Lol, you think Bush wasn't in on it?!!
The 'full-scale' revolt in Lower Canada was, in fact, pretty much limited to Montreal and to areas near the city, i.e. neighbouring villages, the Richelieu Valley and the area near the U.S. border south of Montreal. The rest of Lower Canada remained very much quiet, on account not only of the well-garrisoned stronghold in Quebec City but also of the influence of the local Catholic clergy, who had been alienated by Papineau's anti-clericalism, and of the opposition of the powerful land-owning aristocrats, both English and French-speaking, who saw the revolt as a liberally-inspired threat to their power.
One of those times where had one thing been different, the whole outcome could have shifted. Had he been a devout catholic appealing to the upper class, who knows.
I'm a proud Canadian... did not know any of this. Thanks for the knowledge. It is much appreciated.
Love this channel man keep it up!
This conflict was actually the main reason Canada (and later other British settler-colonies) got self-government. There probably would have been a lot more armed rebellions in these colonies (e.g. in the Australian colonies) later on had this not set a precedent, so it's pretty important!
The 2 Canadas were united the make the french Canadiens minority in the Canadien goverment since Lower Canada now had to share his with upper Canada. It was also made to facilitate the assimilation of the french population.
I wish someone could assimiliate France itself into the human race. As neighbours they're a real pain in the ass.
One of my ancestors was sentenced in Absentia to be hanged for his role in the rebellion to the Family Compact. He escaped to Texas, where he died of yellow fever.
And another was a member of the Royal Engineers, in Canada, about the same time.
I'm perversely proud of both of them.
"The American Dream" part was spot on.
A recurring joke in your videos that I love is having the US flag be the stripes and just the word "Stars".
My favorite description of Canada ever!.....John Oliver: "Canada....when Great Britain and America had a baby and left it out in the snow"....😂still chuckling over that one :)
We never really called it the Canadian Revolution we just call it the Upper Canada Rebellion. At least in my Province since ours was the Red River Rebellion
What province is that?
It's called Revolution only if it's successful.
@@marjanp No it's not, a rebellion is (uncountable) armed resistance to an established government or ruler while a revolution is a political upheaval in a government or nation-state characterized by great change.
When I was in school many years ago, both were referred to as the Rebellions of 1837. They were armed uprisings that didn't immediately accomplish much. They did wake up England as they didn't want any more wars in North America that could lose them the Canadas.
American Revolution: Bullets-&-corpses warfare
Canadian Revolution: Beer drinking contest
Canada: "We're NOT sorry"
UK: *Sweats in empire*
Ok few things.
1) I know it was probably for the clicks, but the conflict is usually called the "rebellions of 1837" or the "upper Canada/lower Canada rebellions" over here.
2) I feel that you kind of overstated how widespread the LC rebellion was. Whilst it did have a decent amount of support, they only really won one battle against the British army (Battle of Saint-Denis). They were crushed in every other conflict.
3) The impact was massive. Both Canadas were non functioning "democracies" before this point. As you mentioned, only the upper class could vote. It was a feature the British had put in place after the American Revolution when loyalist refugees were streaming across the border. They thought the commoners couldnt be trusted with democracy.
Part of Lord Durham's report called for responsible government. It meant Canada got actual democracy. These political forces eventually inspired politicians like the fathers of confederation to unite Canada.
Also now that we're on the topic, please do a video on the attempted American invasion of Quebec during the Rev War.
There are actually quite a few revolts and rebellions in Canada’s history such as the Red River Rebellion and the North-West Rebellion which lead to the formation of the province of Manitoba.
What's the previous Providence before Manitoba?
@@attiepollard7847 it was the Red River colony
You're map of Canada in the beginning is missing most of the Arctic Archipelago FYI.
Fun fact: William Lyon Mackenzie was the grandfather of Canada's longest-serving Prime Minister, William Lyon Mackenzie King. WLMK is on the $50 bill, led Canada in WWII, and would talk to his dead grandfather via seances (and others, including his dead dogs).
Durham's Report lead to major reforms and significantly advanced democracy in Canada.
Not Canada's only armed revolt. There were also the Red River Rebellion and the Northwest Rebellion, both led by Métis leader Louis Riel.
I guess differences with the US's road to independence being relatively more quick and violent compared to ours being a much longer more polite and paperwork filled affair kinda seems to set the respective stereotype's for Canadians and Americans
I live in Canada (Toronto) and it's cool to know a breaking rebellion happened
especially since Canadian history is pretty lame aside from bits and pieces of the world wars
Canadian History teacher here: There is no such thing as the Canadian Revolution. What this person is talking about is known here in Ontarwio as the Upper Canada Rebellion. It was highly localized, poorly organized and shut down almost immediately after it started. It did send the signal to Britain that they needed to look closer at the governance of British North America and inspired the Durham report, which did bring representative democracy. It most certainly WAS NOT a revolution in the same sense as the American or French Revolution. It was a small, isolated incident that cost very few lives and resulted in Britain creating a system of governance in the territory. The same thing happened in Lower Canada, but since the people were French speakers vs. English speakers it definitely took on a more nationalistic tone, but ultimately could only accurately be described as local unrest or a rebellion at best. Neither of these were revolutions.
Love your videos
Oh my bad I thought this video was about current events
No, not really.
@@hugolafhugolaf do you support what has happened in Canada for the past 2 years turning it into a two tier society?
@@hugolafhugolaf Trudeau is fearfully shaving his legs in his bunker
Canada: Hey America since you guys talk big about getting rid of the British, freedom and liberty and all that will you help us with our independence?
America: Yes, but actually no.
America: No entangling alliances.
the time in history when America was a pussy to the British after the War of 1812. Then America grew bigger balls and deep pockets and became the Dos XX man of the world
@@genesis6d7 The Vritish did recognize antagonizing the USA over time was a vad idea, as the US was vecoming more powerful over the years relative to the Vrits, and that Canada would ve threatened more and more.
The Hunters' Lodge arose among Lower Canadian refugees, which recruited both Canadians and Americans. The U.S. Army sent troops into Canada to help the British quell the rebels. Ironic, given our own revolution. :)
/ Thus starting a trend carried on to this very day !
"The U.S. Army sent troops into Canada to help the British quell the rebels." Huh? Never heard of that before - where'd you get that?
@@nozecone the library
@@crowbar9566 I've read a bit on the subject and can't recall anything about American troops in Canada, so I'm afraid I'll have to remain skeptical for the time-being.
“Stars” on the flag killed me lol
Always love the moment someone dances thru the daisies!
In Québec, the day of the revolt is a national holiday, which, fun fact, also falls on the Queen's birthday.
Fun fact, the Journée des Patriotes has pretty much nothing to do with the first Monday preceding May 25th aside from the fact that the PQ in 2003 wanted something to further drown out Victoria Day in Quebec
@@zedxyle What's wrong with that? That long dead English Queen is of no importance in Québec. While the Patriots are part of our history.
@@Xerxes2005 the patriots play a far far far less important role in Quebec history than the British do.
@@zedxyle Victoria is not "the British". And even so, screw them!
@@Xerxes2005 Victoria is the embodiment of the British Empire, considering her long reign, and Montreal more than any other city in Canada flourished under her rule.