I'm really grateful for groups such as this Climate Repair group out of Cambridge, and I am quite certain that we, the collective of humanity, would have no problem in mitigating the profound issue of climate change--had we gone at it sooner--say, 20 or so years ago. That not being the case, I'm left in a state of uncertainty--and HOPE. I DO know that the global paradigm MUST change--rapidly and definitively, in fundamental ways--large-scale. Immediately.
Always very informative. Sir David King is one the most eloquent and well informed speakers on this subject. Let’s hope the projects he advocates (@24:00 onwards) are taken up seriously and funded properly. Preferably by redirecting money that is now subsidising the fossil fuel industry. One factor to consider: every fish, whale and shrimp we have taken out of the ocean is effectively a removal of nutrients from the system, which is replenished by nature, but not everywhere and not always at the same rate. On the other hand, we add nutrients to the oceans by run-off of our agriculture via rivers, but this happens locally. It seems that the krill and whale populations do not restore ‘just by itself’ after we stopped plundering the sea. We do need to have a better understanding how this system works in order to be able to restore the equilibrium.
Who's doing the controlling? the global north or global south? Thus far the global north has made a real hash of it. Most of the problems come from invading, killing extracting, fouling, manufacturing, using and trashing. Population control, well maybe? But the main thing is control of billionaires, banks, central banks, and corporations; reducing their carbon footprints by 99 percent would be a start. A bit of honesty wouldn't go astray either from those dictating endless consumerism and ever increasing commodity production. Roosevelt recognised that taxing the super rich of the day at close to 100 percent was part of the answer. He could only push through a rate of 92 percent though. That wouldn't go astray today to build an increasingly renewable, reusable, sustainable pathway forward with us in nature not stamping on it or fighting it, but working with it.
@@brianwheeldon4643 it is necessary for all to participate if population control is to happen. The measures you mention are all sensible in the short to medium term, but any group doubling it’s population every few decades will eventually impose considerable population pressure
People love to talk about "freedom" and "liberty". Well, what about the freedom to survive? What about being at liberty to not live in an apocalyptic nightmare?
In 1971, I created a democratic communal society with no personal cars. My coworker said he liked the idea of a democratic cooperative state, but he was not giving up his car. This is what the oil companues know. No one is giving up their cars. Therefore, climatic change is ignored.
Instead of giving up cars or giving in to depression we are seeing the quick rise of electric cars and alternate transportation and a shift to wind and solar. This will quickly produce a fall in value of coal to the value of zero as its more costly then renewables, Disruptive changes take time. Sir David Kings approach appears to be a good one . Changing thinking is critical to our survival. Katherine Hayhoe a Climate Scientist from Texas has written a new book which can help in this process called Saving Us I have just read the first couple of chapters and its a breath of fresh air.
Really interesting discussion! My question would've been: how would the CFCR group persuade government leaders to take action? I fear many aren't really taking climate emergency seriously at all and I reckon they may have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table on this! Also, how would the group engage with the world's population to get more people involved in problem solving in this area? All too often ordinary people are ignored & kept out of the loop, when there is so much creativity to be tapped. Many may have really good ideas and solutions to the climate emergency.
Thank you for expressing concern! Refreshing. I think our main problem is ownership and advertising nature of our media, I try to mention that when ever I speak about climate change, interested to read your thoughts on this one th-cam.com/video/Z_l90e75-sU/w-d-xo.html
😁Dear David, they've been geo-engineering aerosols for years, now, and for decades. This is a daily practice, world-wide, Sir. This "future" , of which you speak is now! Thanks Exceedingly, Dr. Mullane
The speaker seems to think that the map at around minute 20 is the full map of Vietnam. Clarification: it's just 1/3 of VN. Which is bad enough anyway.
2,2 K today. 55 minutes play time equals a week for ppl used to 1min tiktok shorts. So, cut it up, make shorts about one solution lasting 3 mins max. Goes for most climate -change- crisis videos as well
To clue people in, the entire jetstream circulation has changed from oceans too warm to allow Siberian cold to cross the N.Pacific turns it north with heat & moisture near BeringStrait a low point in topography to cool and go to low latitudes ONLY over LAND to balance equatorial overheating. So, record cold winters will repeat until the ice is gone in 60yrs or less, check. Then in summer it's reversed, LAND heats quickly, oceans don't so big high-pressure domes will get hotter and last longer, check. For spice where the polar cold meets warm-moist tropical air we get floating-car sheet_runoff flooding globally, check. At 500ppm CO2eqv +3ppm/yr =750ppm by 2100 2m/6.7ft more sealevel rising at 30.5cm/1ft per decade for several centuries, check. Oe cannot remove CO2 below Mt.Everest air mixes too fast, and when emissions finally end, oceans outgas their excess CO2 to keep levels above 400ppm for >>120,000yrs. Our extinction 3.5ky-5ky away with BAU, unstoppably like any glacier on Earth ending below a rising sealevel cannot be stopped from quickly melting from below by warm oceans and altered jetstreams, check. Oh, we're so arrogant, the hairless apes aren't wise, check.
Interesting talks. They seem to make it clear that clever scientific interventions will have little impact on the global car crash of climate change. Individual changes in behaviour are required by the whole global population. Scientific interventions might help but is not an alternative to behaviour change
dan theman, If what's required is individual behaviour change I can accept that, but, and it's a big but, it is whole system change that is required, not only individual behaviour change. The voracious extractivist and externality compromised economic system we have must go, no ifs no buts. And the undemocratic oligarchic controlled representative democratic system must go, and be substituted by some citizen/people led democratic system based locally, regionally and connected nationally, and on perhaps a continent and worldwide basis. As for techno fixes, there's no known practicable animal at present. NET's such as CCS are almost guaranteed even at this early juncture to fail. Trees, scientifically and indigenous based and monitored ecological regenerative largely plant systems must rapidly take the place of meat based industrial Ag. worldwide. And this is only a beginning. All this must be the life's work of the people's of the world from now on. As for jetting and cruising around the planet, forget it. If it all seems too much and we fail to act now, then our kids and grandkids will suffer increasingly shortened and difficult perhaps violent lives for the most part mediated by hunger. The super rich won't be going anywhere soon. Mars is a distraction for psychopaths. If you want hope. Act.
I agree. Each person/family must make an effort to reduce their carbon footprint. People need to embrace this with the same single mindedness with which they adopted the automobile a century ago.
I have zero confidence that a group of scientists can mitigate safely. meanwhile wise policies eg the carbon tax are not implemented adequately. Routine industrial emissions controls and other safe projects are not adequately enforced etc.
4-7 million years ago the global green house gasses was 508 ppm (carbon 415 ppm, methane is the difference) and the temperature was 3-4°C higher but the sea level was 25ft higher. Where did all this extra water come from?
In that Era, North & South America were not connected, so sea currents were different. In the actual pattern, the Atlantic currents act as a giant heat dispenser to the poles, acting to cool down the climate in comparison to 3-4 million years ago when the poles were a bit more thermally isolated. As long as Atlantic sea currents are active, we will not warm up as much as in those bygone times.
The ship of industrial civilization is sinking. It is still worth doing what this team is focused on, because it gives us more time to get on the life boats before the ship goes down.
Thank you for speaking up. While I am dismayed at the ongoing power of petrochemical and fossil fuel industries in our media, our choice is still between worse and much worse, I am working on a show on feedback loops you may find helpful.
I'm really grateful for groups such as this Climate Repair group out of Cambridge, and I am quite certain that we, the collective of humanity, would have no problem in mitigating the profound issue of climate change--had we gone at it sooner--say, 20 or so years ago. That not being the case, I'm left in a state of uncertainty--and HOPE. I DO know that the global paradigm MUST change--rapidly and definitively, in fundamental ways--large-scale. Immediately.
if you don't know what you're doing, DON'T MESS WITH IT!
yes ok, we will refreeze the poles, ok! You must be crazy if you believe this is possible. He seems to be very desperate.
No it’s not really good! It’s just more goddamn Hopium! If wishes were horses buddy…
Always very informative. Sir David King is one the most eloquent and well informed speakers on this subject. Let’s hope the projects he advocates (@24:00 onwards) are taken up seriously and funded properly. Preferably by redirecting money that is now subsidising the fossil fuel industry.
One factor to consider: every fish, whale and shrimp we have taken out of the ocean is effectively a removal of nutrients from the system, which is replenished by nature, but not everywhere and not always at the same rate. On the other hand, we add nutrients to the oceans by run-off of our agriculture via rivers, but this happens locally. It seems that the krill and whale populations do not restore ‘just by itself’ after we stopped plundering the sea. We do need to have a better understanding how this system works in order to be able to restore the equilibrium.
Questions re social justice tend to ignore the need for population control - which all social groups need to take responsibility for
Who's doing the controlling? the global north or global south? Thus far the global north has made a real hash of it. Most of the problems come from invading, killing extracting, fouling, manufacturing, using and trashing. Population control, well maybe? But the main thing is control of billionaires, banks, central banks, and corporations; reducing their carbon footprints by 99 percent would be a start. A bit of honesty wouldn't go astray either from those dictating endless consumerism and ever increasing commodity production. Roosevelt recognised that taxing the super rich of the day at close to 100 percent was part of the answer. He could only push through a rate of 92 percent though. That wouldn't go astray today to build an increasingly renewable, reusable, sustainable pathway forward with us in nature not stamping on it or fighting it, but working with it.
@@brianwheeldon4643 it is necessary for all to participate if population control is to happen. The measures you mention are all sensible in the short to medium term, but any group doubling it’s population every few decades will eventually impose considerable population pressure
People love to talk about "freedom" and "liberty". Well, what about the freedom to survive? What about being at liberty to not live in an apocalyptic nightmare?
Population is what rich white people talk about when they don't want to talk about the amount of stuff they use.
In 1971, I created a democratic communal society with no personal cars. My coworker said he liked the idea of a democratic cooperative state, but he was not giving up his car. This is what the oil companues know. No one is giving up their cars. Therefore, climatic change is ignored.
Instead of giving up cars or giving in to depression we are seeing the quick rise of electric cars and alternate transportation and a shift to wind and solar. This will quickly produce a fall in value of coal to the value of zero as its more costly then renewables, Disruptive changes take time. Sir David Kings approach appears to be a good one . Changing thinking is critical to our survival. Katherine Hayhoe a Climate Scientist from Texas has written a new book which can help in this process called Saving Us I have just read the first couple of chapters and its a breath of fresh air.
Really interesting discussion! My question would've been: how would the CFCR group persuade government leaders to take action? I fear many aren't really taking climate emergency seriously at all and I reckon they may have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table on this! Also, how would the group engage with the world's population to get more people involved in problem solving in this area? All too often ordinary people are ignored & kept out of the loop, when there is so much creativity to be tapped. Many may have really good ideas and solutions to the climate emergency.
Thank you for expressing concern! Refreshing. I think our main problem is ownership and advertising nature of our media, I try to mention that when ever I speak about climate change, interested to read your thoughts on this one th-cam.com/video/Z_l90e75-sU/w-d-xo.html
the short answer is they cannot 'persuade leaders to act' because leaders are captured by unrestricted lobbying by vested interests.
Persuade leaders to act? Seriously the only action they will take is when the action will enhance their wealth or the wealth of their puppet masters.
This is really good
really ?
Wow. Now I'm convinced. We are sooooooo extinct.
😁Dear David, they've been geo-engineering aerosols for years, now,
and for decades. This is a daily practice, world-wide, Sir. This "future" ,
of which you speak is now!
Thanks Exceedingly,
Dr. Mullane
To inject some reality into your presentation, invite Guy McPherson to participate
How about no. As possibly correct as he is his answer is to give up. What would even be the point in having him on
TIME FOR ACTION, rather David!!
The speaker seems to think that the map at around minute 20 is the full map of Vietnam. Clarification: it's just 1/3 of VN. Which is bad enough anyway.
200 views from people who care.
Where's everyone? Being entertained, of course
2,2 K today.
55 minutes play time equals a week for ppl used to 1min tiktok shorts.
So, cut it up, make shorts about one solution lasting 3 mins max. Goes for most climate -change- crisis videos as well
But...football! But...Kardashians!
hilarious
What volume of atmosphere would contain a ton of co2....since co2 is less than 1% concentration
To clue people in, the entire jetstream circulation has changed from oceans too warm to allow Siberian cold to cross the N.Pacific turns it north with heat & moisture near BeringStrait a low point in topography to cool and go to low latitudes ONLY over LAND to balance equatorial overheating.
So, record cold winters will repeat until the ice is gone in 60yrs or less, check.
Then in summer it's reversed, LAND heats quickly, oceans don't so big high-pressure domes will get hotter and last longer, check.
For spice where the polar cold meets warm-moist tropical air we get floating-car sheet_runoff flooding globally, check.
At 500ppm CO2eqv +3ppm/yr =750ppm by 2100 2m/6.7ft more sealevel rising at 30.5cm/1ft per decade for several centuries, check.
Oe cannot remove CO2 below Mt.Everest air mixes too fast, and when emissions finally end, oceans outgas their excess CO2 to keep levels above 400ppm for >>120,000yrs.
Our extinction 3.5ky-5ky away with BAU, unstoppably like any glacier on Earth ending below a rising sealevel cannot be stopped from quickly melting from below by warm oceans and altered jetstreams, check.
Oh, we're so arrogant, the hairless apes aren't wise, check.
Intelligent political analysis should be number 1 not 4
Interesting talks. They seem to make it clear that clever scientific interventions will have little impact on the global car crash of climate change. Individual changes in behaviour are required by the whole global population. Scientific interventions might help but is not an alternative to behaviour change
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dan theman, If what's required is individual behaviour change I can accept that, but, and it's a big but, it is whole system change that is required, not only individual behaviour change. The voracious extractivist and externality compromised economic system we have must go, no ifs no buts. And the undemocratic oligarchic controlled representative democratic system must go, and be substituted by some citizen/people led democratic system based locally, regionally and connected nationally, and on perhaps a continent and worldwide basis. As for techno fixes, there's no known practicable animal at present. NET's such as CCS are almost guaranteed even at this early juncture to fail. Trees, scientifically and indigenous based and monitored ecological regenerative largely plant systems must rapidly take the place of meat based industrial Ag. worldwide. And this is only a beginning. All this must be the life's work of the people's of the world from now on. As for jetting and cruising around the planet, forget it. If it all seems too much and we fail to act now, then our kids and grandkids will suffer increasingly shortened and difficult perhaps violent lives for the most part mediated by hunger. The super rich won't be going anywhere soon. Mars is a distraction for psychopaths. If you want hope. Act.
I agree. Each person/family must make an effort to reduce their carbon footprint. People need to embrace this with the same single mindedness with which they adopted the automobile a century ago.
I have zero confidence that a group of scientists can mitigate safely. meanwhile wise policies eg the carbon tax are not implemented adequately. Routine industrial emissions controls and other safe projects are not adequately enforced etc.
Climate repair?😂😂 But ok, if there’s a audience for nonsense someone will be selling. Check out some real scientists at the Heartland Institute.
Stop the world; I want to get off...
4-7 million years ago the global green house gasses was 508 ppm (carbon 415 ppm, methane is the difference) and the temperature was 3-4°C higher but the sea level was 25ft higher. Where did all this extra water come from?
I don't think Greenland has that much ice. He should have references in his presentation
25 meters
@@jdsimon1000 9:27 25 ft. The same amount he also says is in the Greenland ice sheet.
In that Era, North & South America were not connected, so sea currents were different. In the actual pattern, the Atlantic currents act as a giant heat dispenser to the poles, acting to cool down the climate in comparison to 3-4 million years ago when the poles were a bit more thermally isolated. As long as Atlantic sea currents are active, we will not warm up as much as in those bygone times.
Antarctica
we really need to fund the UN. to facilitate/manage this world challenge!
The ship of industrial civilization is sinking. It is still worth doing what this team is focused on, because it gives us more time to get on the life boats before the ship goes down.
Thank you for speaking up. While I am dismayed at the ongoing power of petrochemical and fossil fuel industries in our media, our choice is still between worse and much worse, I am working on a show on feedback loops you may find helpful.