BIG rain - Collecting and redistributing
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I wouldn't worry too much about the goop.
Xanthan gum is a fermented grain product.
Guar gum is from ground cluster beans.
Carrageenan is seaweed extract.
Worry about the ice cream and the excess calories that people take in their diets.
@@teresamexico309 that and preservatives.
moderation can deal with the calorie count, but preservative salts like sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate are my main gripe with modern foodstuffs.
@@that44rdv4rk Preservatives can be avoided as well.
Anyways, these containers weren't used for probably months, so of course what was inside turned bad. leave a piece of bread or meat outside for a while and it will be disgusting. I don't say additives are good, but a bit more logic wouldn't hurt us either...
People are fine with eating beeswax and other metabolically-inert products as long as they seem "natural" enough, and will happily consume supposedly medicinal toxic plants regardless of evidence. I think if people were more educated and had more transparency regarding food manufacture then ingredients like carageenan wouldn't seem so scary. Plenty of commercial ingredients and byproducts may have actual reasons to make us concerned for our health, but that doesn't mean we should shun anything and everything that passes through a large-scale process at some point in its lifecycle.
People even used to think potatoes were unfit for human consumption and only good for animal feed, but we've since overcome that psychological bias. If we want to shun a particular ingredient or product, we should at least have a good, evidence-based reason for doing so.
So glad it rained where you are. It’s a blessing. Here in NC, we had two months this summer (part of May, June and part of July) without rain. It’s been raining quite often now. I have rain barrels around the house and will be setting up a bigger collection system out in the garden this spring. All the best.
Good luck with the rest of the season!
For what it's worth, I did a deep dive video on the design of my ecosystem pond just last week. It may be worth taking a look at, as now that your pond is dry, it could be a useful time to make minor tweaks in ways that can establish fast balance.
Anyways, our ponds are quite different (liner being a big difference) but the ecological aspects of design are all similar, and focused in replicating natural systems. It may be worth a watch.
Also, why did you have to make a water harvesting video. You are giving me all these ideas and the last thing I need is more projects!
For now I have been diverting all my water (that doesn't enter my swales) into this pond, so that I can innoculate the water with pond nutrient and microbiology before using on gardens and tree systems. That's still going to be my main focus and priority...
... but its always good to have more backups. Time to go see if I can upcycle some IBC totes.
I'm so jealous of your extensive rainwater system! We're in the suburbs and have an old wash basin (that a neighbor was throwing out) collecting rainwater off our roof. We save our juice bottles and fill them as the basin fills up, making it easy to water my potted plants. I probably have 20 full bottles on my patio. We have a small garden, so this system has met our needs for few years.
Sounds like you've scaled your solution to the size you need!
@@edibleacres Good point! Although we're moving to a much larger property in a couple months, so I'm getting lots of ideas from your videos. (For example, your trick for cutting firewood with a tire is brilliant. I can't wait to try it!)
I live in NM, and sympathize with the hard work you’re all doing in hot and dry conditions. However, there’s some relief here, too. It’s the middle of monsoon season. I missed out on the first rains, but see the potential for harvesting water even here
I’m excavating by hand the foundations of a couple small earth bag buildings, but need more earth. So I’ll be digging multiple garden beds 2-3 feet below grade for the earth, to catch rainwater (planting the rain as Sonoran Desert Grower says), and establish lots of native trees for shade and wind breaks
I’ve also three IBC totes, so when the buildings are up I plan to catch and store water above ground for general use and gray water reuse because I’m 100% off grid
After so many years of being inspired by this channel and many others, I’ve finally got some land, difficult land, but land to do with as I’ve dreamed. Extremely grateful for the opportunity to join the community in a more active way
Longtime Sonoran desert grower fan here! Stoked that you have some land to work on best of luck with your endeavour 🤙
@@jordanmatt1744 thank you so much!
Thomas.
Timber bamboo, grows 50ft in 3 years, drought cold tolerant it stores water in shoots, deep water and grass fertilizer when first planted it provides leaves for silica tea,fresh or dried tea, dried it's animal food,mulch,ground cover to hold in moisture, make furniture fence windchimes flooring decor items. Windbreaker of it saved put roofs from hurricane Irma . Dig a 5ft deep X2" wide , long trench to make wind break, add grass fertilizer, lime, heavy soak let absorb 48 hours then plant. Potted. But can lay a stock shoot with rooting compound on each joint into that trench,it takes longer as first 3 years thin stalks only.
Only plant, cut, during full moon day of or two days prior ,day after or it rots. Check which species is best for your area. We did loose some leaves with polar vortex but it came back spring. 👍🍵🍵 Silica, high in the leaves, dry out of sun in warm area. Have used the tea on expensive dogs skin oral, topical, best to drink, can add cucumber juice and skin gets amazing!
I am in central NM and hope to have a rain collection system by the next monsoon season. Best of luck to you and your endeavors. I understand excavating by hand. Everything I do to dig is with a garden trowel.
@@wirelesscaller7518 Timber bamboo sounds like a great solution! Where did you get yours?
We've been dealing with extreme drought and many many days of 100 plus degree temps. We put up sheets and mesh covers to give our plants some relief and have been adding free wood chips to conserve water and keep the ground cooler. Thankfully, we had a short break in temps and some rain last week.
I have a similar setup for rain catchment. The IBC totes can grow algae. If you put a 6 inch piece of copper pipe inside the totes it will inhibit the algae growth.
I have my totes covered with cardboard and so far no algae (over a year) yet I will check the copper pipe recommendation, thanks.
We have tons of algae growing in some of our tanks but they still work just fine, FWIW
I really love your channel. It is quite a respite from all the “other nonsense” on TH-cam. Thank you for not fear mongering and for being a simple USEFUL resource for sustainable homesteading culture.
Have a great day.
I think I’m gonna set up one of your playlists and let it play while I go outside. I won’t be watching, but YOU’ll Be getting the ad revenue.
Cheers!
Your videos pushed me further towards looking for a piece of land to cultivate. Just so inspirational. Congrats with the rain!
Wishing you success and finding land perfect for your hopes :)
Thanks to your inspiration, I started to compost about a year ago. I put my 1st bin to work when planting late this spring. We were surprised with a volunteer pumpkin plant sprouted from the base of our hydrangea now we have 7 pumpkins growing swiftly. And, my 2nd bin of compost is now full of huge/healthy worms. Thank you for the inspiration!!!!
We're on a ridge, so get no overland flow. We have regular droughts in summer, but adequate rain in winter, occasionally too much. I have swales with adjustable pipe monks fitted. If we're in danger of waterlogging in winter I can drop the swivel pipes and it acts as a drainage grid, moving that excess water to ponds that can hold the water and slowly release it to the landscape. The swale berms are planted with fruit trees and shrubs that benefit from the extra depth of top soil, and they're not at risk of waterlogging in winter. We have 7000 plus trees in shelter belt systems, to break the worst of the desiccating wind, the oldest of which are starting to yield huge improvements in terms of shelter. Moving forward, the plan is for more productive trees inside the system as it matures and a lot more water storage bodies.
What a wonderful system!
I love this video - we live in Austin, TX which is in the midst of a significant draught at the moment and likely this will become the norm moving forward. Like you, one of our issues is we get 1 or 2 inches in a very short period which makes it a challenge to capture in a traditional rain water system. Now that I know the land a bit, I've been thinking about digging some ponds in the right places to be able to capture the deluge long enough to move it into more permanent storage. This video has inspired a lot of ideas - so thanks.
I think if we listen to the subtle hints and nudges we will be able to navigate through these challenging times.
We hope!
Water is THE top of the list for permaculture. Water, access, structure. In that order
Water is quite important for sure...
This never disappoints me in any way just keeps adding to true natural way to treat the environment and add to it's productive beauty and keep the water on the land. Just imagine the damage that would have been done to this landscape if it never had a natural covering. Instead it flourishes in productivity from nature. Cheers and always looking forward to each vid and comments. 😁
Thanks for sharing this one. Was feeling inspired after watching this last week and got a couple of totes set up; got an inch of rain so far today and they're already overflowing. Looks like I need more!
So so great to know you've got water storage starting :)
Today here in Western Australia I had a massive downpour as per usual I am out in it watching all my captures moving pipes and overflows and learning where the water runs. I too have second hand guttering and pipes bouncing falling and spreading water. I’m learning quickly that the water is my priority. Summer is coming and I’m in Mediterranean climate. Well done on listening to your inner voice.
Best of luck in capturing so so much rain! It's great to know we can just keep chipping away at it little by little :)
I like the two totes sitting on a stack of pallets 👍
Do you have longer term plans for stabilizing the new water tower. Pallets have a definite expiration date out in the weather, and water weighs 8lbs per gallon, so I would be somewhat concerned about the safety of that stack after a season or two.
Absolutely this is VERY VERY temporary to understand the height and dynamics and function. Could even be we retire this this winter...
Thank you Sean.
We are just south of you in Elmira area. We caught some rain in three large garbage cans.
So thankful to finally got some rain. Only 1/4 inch here.
Your system is amazing.
Thanks Vicky. Glad you got a little rain, I know you folks down there got a lot earlier though so it's all evening out I suspect :)
You could buy a old oilfield mud tank. There's a company that cleans them out and lines them to prevent rust. One can hold around 23,000 gallons.
Congratulation for this amazing video!!!
Really enjoy watching your vlogs, very interesting and informative.
The cells broke apart before they hit Rhode Island. I was watching them just disappear on radar all day we needed that rain badly. Im glad yall harvested so much. Hopfully Gaia weill bless us tomorrow.
I am thinking of adding an cistern and a series of small ponds. (not there yet) Please keep the amazing videos coming.
Your voice is literal ASMR 🤣💙
Thanks I think :)
I just retired, euphamism for QUIT, from trucking after 20 years. Boy Howdy, could I tell you some stories about the conventional food supply, ingredients, regulations, allowances, etc. Instead I will say, "please, please, grow at least a small garden and raise as many chickens as you can".
Good for you brother, we have no rain hardly out here in Texas, I do catch my own rain water also, that is the only water source I got for now,
At the moment I am living at a sort of rented property and can’t make any changes to the downspouts but somehow do collect about 75 litres of rainwater of rooftop every other week. Your water tower is nice that I may use with a twist in our under construction house. I like the tin roof as I think water of asphalt roof should be avoided.
Thank you for sharing.
We collect rain water off asphalt roof surfaces all the time. Absolutely prefer metal but we'll take whatever we can get!!
Rain water at a massive scale. 4 IBC tank nice setup. Great setup you have, you inspire me there.
So glad!
Thank You Sean..once again
You asked what are folks up to..
My answer... meanwhile learning from your wisdom..
Thanks for sharing
a guy i knew once said it was necessary to block sunlight from the water in these to inhibit growth of bad stuff, said paint would be toxic. we disassembled them and wrapped in thick black plastic.
We have tanks with algae in them and it doesn't seem to be bad for plants, but seems ideal to protect them when you can
Amazing!
Nice timing on your part!
We got the same rains here in Syracuse. I had rain barrels, wheelbarrow, trash cans, buckets, and a cart all out to gather as much as I could. I'd love a couple of those big totes, but I've nowhere to put them on the property.
Bella Siracusa
Man I am waiting for rain here. Hasn't rained for weeks. The last days I was dreaming about an ibc, where to fit one. but I have no room
Interesting your "precognition"
We should listen more often to our feelings.
Outstanding ideas here Sean! The creativity and smart building ideas never cease to amaze! Here in Eastern Washington State, we are experiencing a very dry spell too. I built a catch system like this off of our greenhouse using IBC totes and a large 750 gallon tank. The challenge is using the water, gradually like I do with watering our new seedlings but fast enough before the Algae builds up in the tanks. Perhaps, I should think about painting the tanks or building a shade structure to minimize algae growth. What are your thoughts on this?
If you can find a shady position to store tanks that would be best/ideal. That is what we try to offer them. You may be able to find silage wrap material that is white on one side, that is a quick way to consider covering them. Long term, plants and vines would be ideal. Good luck!
Amazing system! I have a huge barn that I need to get some rainwater collection for - average spring rains are almost 6k gallons in a month.
Yeah even small barns are incredible (and generally un-utilized) surfaces to collect most/all water needed for gardens
Also the higher the quality and fertility of the soil equals the more water it can absorb and hold.
Excellent video. Rainwater collection and redistribution will definitely be important in light of climate change. And since the "pulses" of rain will only get more erratic and violent in the coming years, its good to think about expanding your collection and storage capacity. I know I'll definitely be implementing rainwater collection systems on my property.
My 1st line of drought defense is always mulching deeply with chips leaves,grass clippings. Next would be the 12+ ponds I'm building up on our hillside. 6-8 of them are Very small purely for wildlife habitat and some aquatic plants(hot tub
Actually I suppose 2nd is that all our cultivated beds are hugelkultur, trenched 3ft deep filled with old logs, chips, leaves etc... very spongey!
Awesome stuff here, wow!!!
Got a laugh out of calling it a Rube Goldberg machine, thanks for sharing! :)
Love the solar pump. Can you give more specs to that system? Pump model, capacity of solar panel? Thanks!
It would be great to have a video about it.
Thanks in advance, as well.
We'll share soon...
We had a very dry summer so we are also currently adding IBC'S to collect more water. Ours were shipped across the planet with sugar water to feed bees (apparantly). Both Nick and I had a wee giggle with the similarities of our water collection systems. We really like the holes drilled in the gutter. My only wonder is whether you get earthquakes. We have to consider this with most things because we do get them (and some big shakes too).so the tanks on breeze blocks might be abit vulnerable to movement?
Yikes, yes, IBC tanks designed to handle earthquake is a tough one. Can you build up with soil in that area? Maybe you have aspirations to dig a pond somewhere nearby? That would be the most safe for sure!
Beautiful just beautiful timing, I have a similar plan for this year but we are not likely to get rain till November maybe October if we are lucky, I also plan to pump water from our stream which only runs December till March time if we get enough rainfall to fill the dams further up the mountain I just need to find a tank big enough to provide water for the dry season which needs to be huuuuuge.
I love your videos and you have great ideas!
So glad
Great job as usual! Inspiration to get going on some water gathering up here for next season!
What are your plans for it before the winter freeze? Drain and keep empty I assume?
Thanks. Another great video. Couple of questions. Is there an issue with algae build up? If so, how to minimize and deal with. Same with mosquitoes / other bugs laying eggs in totes. Finally, did you have to get a permit for the ponds? Does this impact or property assessment? I also live in NY state and know how intrusive they can be. Looking to try some rain catchment this fall and want to minimize issues. (I have enough already!)
No permit for ponds, but called dig safe. I have no idea on property assessment, we never plan to sell, mosquitoes can be an issue but somehow generally are not with a full tank, algae is nice to avoid if you can but not bad for plants. Shady position or offering shade element is ideal.
Awesome idea’s thanks for sharing
Ive got a similar system 5x IBC totes with a pre-flush. They connect, filter 100 mesh, and connect to a well pump I use to water with pressure. I have a question... How do you water from your water storage? I like the idea of no pump/ electricity, and my gardens are all down hill from my house/ collection but I mostly use wobblers and hand wands. I want to consider other options!
Looking forward to seeing the progress :)
Love it.
If you build it, rain will come
I have learnt a lot about my properties natural draining flows and where to plant to utilize those drain fields. Ty for sharing, Blessed Days...
That is so great!
@that44rdv4rk
The problem with XAnthum Gum and the others is that they are not natural but rather individual chemical isolates from a plant produced in a laboratory WITHOUT their other constituents and buffers they are bound to in the plant they came from.
That’s a great feeling to have the means of capturing free windfalls of resources when you happen upon them.
I have one IBC tote and have been loving it, but have noticed it started to smell funky. I wondered if trying a diy charcoal filter of sorts might help with the tannins from the leaves on the roof. Anyway. Loving how your property is looking!
We've had some IBC tanks get pretty funky but the water is still just fine for plants. Nice to avoid but not critical if it is that way...
Maybe put some ducks in the new pond to help seal it?
That would be amazing... Some day :)
Awesome stuff 🤗 Can I ask, were you and Juan able to get the two IBCs on top of the pallets by hand? (As opposed to with a forklift or similar). I read they're like 65 kilos empty and even with two of you, lifting them to that height doesn't sound like fun...
We were able to get them on by hand. I can't quite tell you exactly how it happened but we did it by hand! :)
Would definitely be a worthwhile project in my southwest high desert climate. Ive been looking forward to the electric bcs project. Is that a video you still plan on doing?
Great stuff, always inspiring.
This maybe a daft question but where and when do you go live I have seen a few live Q&A you tube vids but probably due to the time difference I watched them after the fact, is this something you will do again? Or maybe a winter pass time would be best after all it’s a busy time.
We like to offer the live streams but in general they happen in the winter months. Maybe we can figure out one coming up soon. Either way we always record them and make them available for folks.
I have had such an intense feeling of urgency lately, and I am sure the abnormal weather patterns have a lot to do with it. I’m continually frustrated in my efforts to do projects like this. I’m disabled, and while I can easily design things, I cannot seem to communicate the urgency I feel to others who would help me. I’m both stressed and reassured by your videos… I am gaining knowledge, and when the opportunity comes where I have the help, I will at least have a plan.
It may be most about finding the right relationships at this point. I suspect with enough exploration you'll find some really rad allies that understand the deep and valid reasons you feel things need to be moving forward at a good clip and will plug in in the right ways. Wishing that for you!
I don't quite get the IBC tanks-on-pallets - why not stack them on top of each other? That's what they are designed for, no? Sure, the lower ones won't reach higher levels in the landscape just by gravety, but you already have a pump there anyway...
The totes cost $75 a piece... The pallets are 0 dollars. Since I need to deliver via gravity it has to be up high and one underneath would be a wasted storage. I may look to see if anyone has just the metal frames for free or super cheap in which case, YES!
Could you please make a video about the solar system for sending the water from the pond to the containers? with all the technicalities please.
Thanks in advance.
For sure, we'll share notes.
I wish I had some landscape! I'm an apartment/city dweller that desperately wants a small piece of land to live and grow veggies on.
look for community gardens in your area. Get on a list for a plot. Who knows, you could be tending a garden b4 you know it.
Wishing you luck in finding that, in the meantime perhaps there are options to build food growing systems where you live!
Do you drain the IBC totes before winter?
Absolutely
@@edibleacres Thanks so much for answering. Another question: Do you have to paint or cover the IBC totes to block the sunlight and UV (algae growth, plastic degradation)?
Thanks for your videos. You and Sasha are awesome.
It has now been nearly 8 months since any sort of beneficial precipitation has fallen in my area. But what we got 8 months ago was insane.
That is incredibly challenging, wow. I'm sorry that is your scenario :(
Glad to hear you are getting rain! Awesome you got a big rain and wereable to capture it along with developed swales. YesI cleaning totes isa challenging.indeeda FDA approved doesnt mean it isssafe....just approved.LOL
I'm not sure what the FDA is up to but their 'approval' system leaves a lot to be desired...
I have just 1 of those totes… I was trying to find the black ones but have not, what will you cover it with to prevent algae? I can find more of these white ones. Thanks… I am in Costa Rica so they are pricey here,
We don't cover them. Maybe not ideal but doesn't seem to be too bad so far.
I'd like to know more about your solar panel and pump, please.
We'll share notes soon enough.
I almost gave up on planting tree because it's so wet in spring here. Until you shared how you used woodchips to draw up and sequester the water. It's really working well. So grateful. I am hoping to do some rain collection off the chicken coop. It's on "the list" anyway.
How do you feel about harvesting water from a conventional shingle roof?
I feel like we've done it for almost 15 years at our other spot and it seems OK... Certainly wouldn't jump for joy at doing it again, much prefer metal, but if it is what you have it is better than nothing by a long shot! Certainly better than chlorinated city water!
@@edibleacres and chlorinated is my other option! 😝
Ah, rain!
Curious as to what they say the average rain per year is in your area. Secondly, the internet makes it seem so easy to make at least a shallow well, why not make a shallow well? Is it concern about the water quality from a shallow well? Thanks.
I'm nearby-ish. That area typically gets 3 to 4 feet of rain per year, (in addition to slightly more feet of snow)
are the tanks free or cheap?
Certainly not free... We've found good ones as low as $50 a piece, average price in our area, if buying a few at a time, is roughly $75-$90 each. Pretty reasonable for what they can do and how long they last.
Love your system. I take so much inspiration from you but I have to rearrange it a bit because I'm in a high altitude cold desert in Oregon, tho the cold part dosen't seem to to exactly be the case now. 🙄 It's so hot! We live on a ¹/⁵th an acre in an urban setting. If you'd like to take a look at my little channel (if you get a chance) I'd love some input from you. 🖖
Good luck to you out there, looks like a diverse system you are stewarding
they just misplaced the decimal ;)
Did you say FDA approved🤔..
Thank you Jordan Peterson, you've changed my life!
Not gonna lie I was hoping for some chicken tv at the end but those ladies deserve a break eating their buffet with the camera off like any other animal or human.
Chickens are at our 1/2 acre site... :)
when are you and sasha gonna start having some babies? Gotta have a kid or two so you can teach him how to garden and more importantly..how to tend to chickens