You look for degree of difficulty on musicianship, and overall sound, in a drum battle not trickery. And overall without a doubt PV whom I love is still a peg under JSU....
+james thompson I think there are a few others that are actually better than PV. NSU, SC State, and Bethune would eat them. They are great, but they need a bit more practice to come and wreck shop in the meac.
WT took this one...just might be the best drum line in America. The precision and togetherness is unmatched...jsu snares just give me that unique groovy hbcu sound that matches the style of hbcu bands...I don't like when hbcus play on corp style sounding drums...I'm not a drummer but imo this is one reason why jsu has the best band the way the drumline sounds and the overall cadences Etc has a lot to do with how the band sounds as a whole
That's some real shit. The problem is that majority of the drumheads out here love the sound of the Kevlar heads. Most HBCU snarelines use them now. I heard people ask why dont WT switch to them. They dont understand that if WT snares used them it will not only kill their sound, but the overall sound of the Sonic Boom. That's why JSU, SU, Grambling, Alcorn, still use a traditional sound. Now when it comes to best lines I'm going to roll with Jackson St, NCAT, BCU, and probably South Carolina St. thing is they are all different in their own right on how they do their approaches
Both did their thing in this battle. So it boils down to critiques. MSD wasn't as together (as they usually are) in quite a few spots; some of them were doing movements differently. WT: all I see is a snare drummer missed a head flash in the solo... I'd give WT the win as a result.
lol..some of the jsu critics kills...how you gonna take entertainment of technical...WT all the way..and if you don't know music I suggest you stay out the loop...this was no contest..MSD knew their only chance was entertainment....it failed...lol
I have to agree. WT painted a picture with each cadence. They made music. Not just a bunch of rudimentary flashes and unfinished cadences. Sound like they only played half the song. Sound like they kept changing channels and every channel was some bullshit
The type of drum JSU got they came with clear heads they just changed them I'm not saying you can't put a black max on it it would just sound different but those drums are made for show style Pv snare they use the DFX snares those can be used with both and get a different sound qualify because they have 2 snare guts JSU has the same branded drums they use for practice they just took the second snare gut off and use different heads
As a trained percussionist I have to give it to WT. I look for chops first, grooving second, and entertainment third. WT played with all 3 in tact. I didn't see MSD chop as much. Although a crowd is there to be entertained, I think that it's understood that a line of the caliber of these two schools goes in understanding that there's always a statement to be made to the opposition. I saw the statement more from JSU and the material that they chose to play.
groove wise JSU tha truth . Technic wise PVU on another level. All Yall see " Jackie Chan", but ain't nothin i heard WT play that MSD couldn't play n surely cleaner ! MSD snares sound like 1; jus sayin . 😐 neutral call.
I liked PV's presentation way more. WT played a couple of cadences and that was it. Sorry...but WT was mistaken if they thought that would be enough to get over on PV. PV got this one...as expected.
Face to face drum battles should be cadence for cadence... Not feature for feature.. Unless it's discussed ahead of time.. This battle would've been very easy to judge had MSD played their battle material.. They're nice with both features and battle cadences. W.T. ftw IMO..
Ok PV won this one. Reason why their rudiments are clean. Listen to the Snares, Quads, Basses and Cymbals. Even though War and Thunder sound ok, its not the cleanest. I have seen JSU play clean before on those Power stroke 77s. Like Scott Johnson said with the old school heads you can get away with hiding some bits of rudimentation but when i comes down to it and you really really listen it sounds dirty. Vs the Evans Heads that see on PV's Snares. You can hear the cleanest of the snares and the hear the rudiments. That's what sets the two SWAC lines apart. But on a Flip Side JSU's Tenor and Bass Line is nothing to mess with. They are clean but the Snares need to get on their game. I look at the whole and go base on the cleanest rudiments. Don't matter if its show or corps, what matters is playing it right and sounding like a unit and not sounding dirty. Got to sound as one, not two or three. If one person is off then it looks bad and you can hear it on the audio. That comes from true percussionist.
+Travis Cyprien Regardless the heads they're playing on, both had their dirty moments.. So that discredits your judgement about half way. Power strokes don't hide anything.. If it's clean, it's clean & vice versa.. Another thing, you're basing the battle off of the snare lines alone.. Me personally, I listen to the grooves (entire section) and rudimentary variations being played on both ends and then I judge.. WT for the win..
CLEAN IT UP! Tip: Don't smack the shit out of the drums and you can get a better sound out of them. A good, uniform sound > Loud. I can't even tell what the beats are supposed to be.
Once again where are the real musicians. Pv drummers was on point. I like wt don't get me wrong. But MSD was to technical for them I'm sorry. I Crabbe in 97 when they was the box I wanted to see this battle. It wouldn't have even been close...box all day. This version is good. Pv took this one MO doubt. Technical wise and show wise.
So i’m guessing y’all gave PV the win because they were dancing all over the place huh? Lol. WT chopped the shit out of them boys. And only reason y’all claim PV sounded more cleaner is because they are playing on Kevlar heads vs plastic heads. Kevlar drumheads are for the weak & save all that dancing shit is for the majorettes PV 🤷🏽♂️😂 WT for the W, hands down
Msd by far. Not taking anything from Wt but they not on Msd level. Those people paid for a show so Msd gave them one, if they wanted to see us go head to head they could've came to the game.
MSD got this my friends chops for days ..you could go on every video of this battle and notice the jsu riders 😂😂 smh and I'm a FAMU lover so you can't say I'm being biased
WT can to rain dance! I give them that! Pv took Wt's soul and wrote it down in their book. Pv was wt's grim reaper! Wt will never be comfortable, and will never rest in peace.
JSU is a great drumline but they lazy and dirty you can look and tell .. PV won this one by musicianship and technique because they were clean and sounded clean just needa lock in there rolls but JSU needa practice on playing together because the cadences would be great if it sounded as one but I do agree they need Evans heads ..
I like Jackson state band . But they drums sound horrible . Best drumline in HBCU goes to MDFS hands down . They will eat ever drum line in the SWAC including WT . They don’t even want them problems with Norfolk state drum line .
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I'm so proud of our young ladies on the drumline
They killin it
WT turned up on PV they snares and tenors OMG gotta love em
PV showed up for a dance battle 😂
Big ups for the good quality video and audio. Its nice being able to hear what they're playing and not all the room noise, even being in a large gym.
I wouldn't really call that a battle, Each Drumline did their thang for the crowd
Pv did a whole drum feature smh. Jsu chopping
Whole snare line fucked up 😂😂
Lmaooo yo them JSU tenors SMACKIN! 😤😤
You look for degree of difficulty on musicianship, and overall sound, in a drum battle not trickery. And overall without a doubt PV whom I love is still a peg under JSU....
& will always b!
WT all day mayne i wanna go there bad 😢😢
Pvamu..... much clearer sound, much more controlled. WT was great,don't get me wrong, but they tended to get muddy in certain spots.
You like core dont u buddy...
@@kingbigshot3281 You can like both.
@@kingbigshot3281 he definitely likes core
Corp
@@kingbigshot3281😂
WT T-Drums gotta love em!!!
Rayford Hooper Jr. guns
styles are contradicting. ..But any one thats knows percussion knows what just happened here..only HBCU section ready for PVU..is Cold Steel
+james thompson I think there are a few others that are actually better than PV. NSU, SC State, and Bethune would eat them. They are great, but they need a bit more practice to come and wreck shop in the meac.
Cold steel would dismantle every part of PVU wth a warm-up.I like Cookman to wax PVU as well no problem.Hell I like FAMU too!!lol
+Austin O'Toole cold steel pvu alabama state and Cookman in that order
ha cold Steel...boi stop..lol funk train the best in swac
don't forget norfolk state university Spartan legion. there drumline is clean as shit.
😂😂😂 WT smoked they ass just standing there running straight cadences and callouts
PV was entertaining the crowd so I see why ppl may say they lost...But I prefer crowd entertainment
Why didn't PV line up to WT tho?
Whoever played second won to me
PV was good, but they chose the wrong type of cadences to play against WT. Its obvious that they came to chop, so I gotta give the W to WT.
wrong PV smashed them....The cadences were alot better, JSU had nice chops but the cadences were horrible
WT took this one...just might be the best drum line in America. The precision and togetherness is unmatched...jsu snares just give me that unique groovy hbcu sound that matches the style of hbcu bands...I don't like when hbcus play on corp style sounding drums...I'm not a drummer but imo this is one reason why jsu has the best band the way the drumline sounds and the overall cadences Etc has a lot to do with how the band sounds as a whole
That's some real shit. The problem is that majority of the drumheads out here love the sound of the Kevlar heads. Most HBCU snarelines use them now. I heard people ask why dont WT switch to them. They dont understand that if WT snares used them it will not only kill their sound, but the overall sound of the Sonic Boom. That's why JSU, SU, Grambling, Alcorn, still use a traditional sound. Now when it comes to best lines I'm going to roll with Jackson St, NCAT, BCU, and probably South Carolina St. thing is they are all different in their own right on how they do their approaches
Corp tune sound modern and better. Wt snares sound like church drums
MSD put on a drum show. WT came to battle. You will probally never see WT do a drum show in a battle. They have groove cadences for that.
I would love to see dega vs jsu
I like WT but they took an L here. Their snares had too many dirty parts
Give me a time stamp of the dirty parts 🤔
@@itwasbetterwithhats820 “PV had way more dirt, but they still won” 🤣🤣🤣
WT took that bad ahh W. They tenors and snares nothin to be messed wit
Both did their thing in this battle. So it boils down to critiques.
MSD wasn't as together (as they usually are) in quite a few spots; some of them were doing movements differently.
WT: all I see is a snare drummer missed a head flash in the solo...
I'd give WT the win as a result.
lol..some of the jsu critics kills...how you gonna take entertainment of technical...WT all the way..and if you don't know music I suggest you stay out the loop...this was no contest..MSD knew their only chance was entertainment....it failed...lol
not really they lo key won
I have to agree. WT painted a picture with each cadence. They made music. Not just a bunch of rudimentary flashes and unfinished cadences. Sound like they only played half the song. Sound like they kept changing channels and every channel was some bullshit
What is the drums ( snare drums and particular )sound different even though they're made by the same drum company?
The type of drum JSU got they came with clear heads they just changed them I'm not saying you can't put a black max on it it would just sound different but those drums are made for show style
Pv snare they use the DFX snares those can be used with both and get a different sound qualify because they have 2 snare guts JSU has the same branded drums they use for practice they just took the second snare gut off and use different heads
As a trained percussionist I have to give it to WT. I look for chops first, grooving second, and entertainment third. WT played with all 3 in tact. I didn't see MSD chop as much.
Although a crowd is there to be entertained, I think that it's understood that a line of the caliber of these two schools goes in understanding that there's always a statement to be made to the opposition. I saw the statement more from JSU and the material that they chose to play.
groove wise JSU tha truth . Technic wise PVU on another level. All Yall see " Jackie Chan", but ain't nothin i heard WT play that MSD couldn't play n surely cleaner ! MSD snares sound like 1; jus sayin . 😐 neutral call.
I liked PV's presentation way more. WT played a couple of cadences and that was it. Sorry...but WT was mistaken if they thought that would be enough to get over on PV. PV got this one...as expected.
1:56 they went so fast
Face to face drum battles should be cadence for cadence... Not feature for feature.. Unless it's discussed ahead of time.. This battle would've been very easy to judge had MSD played their battle material.. They're nice with both features and battle cadences. W.T. ftw IMO..
What's the name of the cadence WT played at 2:40
Joseph Newton FTB
Would current WT or Lanes BR chop current PV?
Which one is THE SONIC BOOM OF THE SOUTH
Them Panthers! 💜💛
MSD think they slick with electric wheelchair from SCV
Second cadence name?
PV CLEANER...PV GETS THE W
What is the name of the last cadence WT played?
jazzpro24 FTB
Ok PV won this one. Reason why their rudiments are clean. Listen to the Snares, Quads, Basses and Cymbals. Even though War and Thunder sound ok, its not the cleanest. I have seen JSU play clean before on those Power stroke 77s. Like Scott Johnson said with the old school heads you can get away with hiding some bits of rudimentation but when i comes down to it and you really really listen it sounds dirty. Vs the Evans Heads that see on PV's Snares. You can hear the cleanest of the snares and the hear the rudiments. That's what sets the two SWAC lines apart. But on a Flip Side JSU's Tenor and Bass Line is nothing to mess with. They are clean but the Snares need to get on their game. I look at the whole and go base on the cleanest rudiments. Don't matter if its show or corps, what matters is playing it right and sounding like a unit and not sounding dirty. Got to sound as one, not two or three. If one person is off then it looks bad and you can hear it on the audio. That comes from true percussionist.
+Travis Cyprien Regardless the heads they're playing on, both had their dirty moments.. So that discredits your judgement about half way. Power strokes don't hide anything.. If it's clean, it's clean & vice versa.. Another thing, you're basing the battle off of the snare lines alone.. Me personally, I listen to the grooves (entire section) and rudimentary variations being played on both ends and then I judge.. WT for the win..
+william johnson *falam heads - and let me guess you go to Canton?
I agree with Travis
The girl on jsu cold
i say MSD only because they have young Jackie Chan on the snare line... YESSS !!!
Ikr lol
JSU go hard
Thoses basses are murdering there drums lol
PV won, wasn't even close!!
Love war & thunder amazing
PV all the way!
JSU plays technical stuff. They just play those in funky patterns.
W.T 👍🏾
Pv with the W jus bc they sounded more clean overall
War and thunder for the win
Daylin Baxter PV was doing too much lol
& sumbody had da Ordasaty 2 say Funk Factory can out play WT......never n a million yrs 😂😂😂😂😂
CLEAN IT UP! Tip: Don't smack the shit out of the drums and you can get a better sound out of them. A good, uniform sound > Loud. I can't even tell what the beats are supposed to be.
MSD
wT...all the damn wayyy!!!! looking like soldiers!!!!
WT got it all day,,drums sounds good
FTB was funky as hell.
MSD holding it down
BOX won this one
MSD hands down
That wasn't even a battle WT smashed them HANDS Down!!
nice event
Once again where are the real musicians. Pv drummers was on point. I like wt don't get me wrong. But MSD was to technical for them I'm sorry. I Crabbe in 97 when they was the box I wanted to see this battle. It wouldn't have even been close...box all day. This version is good. Pv took this one MO doubt. Technical wise and show wise.
Already CB!
So i’m guessing y’all gave PV the win because they were dancing all over the place huh? Lol. WT chopped the shit out of them boys. And only reason y’all claim PV sounded more cleaner is because they are playing on Kevlar heads vs plastic heads. Kevlar drumheads are for the weak & save all that dancing shit is for the majorettes PV 🤷🏽♂️😂 WT for the W, hands down
It was a tie for me
Msd by far. Not taking anything from Wt but they not on Msd level. Those people paid for a show so Msd gave them one, if they wanted to see us go head to head they could've came to the game.
Pv out did wt for the dub
Metamorphosis intro too🙂
appreciate tha MoB flava Msd😋
The who?
MSD for the W
msd
Msd jus so much more exciting and disciplined
MSD got this my friends chops for days ..you could go on every video of this battle and notice the jsu riders 😂😂 smh and I'm a FAMU lover so you can't say I'm being biased
+Perry Taylor this wasn't a battle...how can it be a battle if the other drumline doing a feature ?????
I how they play that second cadence when they play ASU this year!! That one is fire!!!!#MyASU
eyebrows rhythm raised sticks sticks sticks beats o' o' o' o' o' o' o; roll drum roll. WINK
Pound the LINE!!
WT took their belt off and beat the hell out of MSD
pv ok
WT WON THAT💯
It Was a tie they both did great!
This one was not even close......PV by a country mile! And I am not a fan of the dancing....I like to see the actual playing......skills!
PV smashed WT
NAF MUZIK your crazy ! WT took this W
WT can to rain dance! I give them that! Pv took
Wt's soul and wrote it down in their book. Pv was wt's grim reaper! Wt will never be comfortable, and will never rest in peace.
somebody got chopped up. lol
WT with the win. PV was decent tho
jus accept da fact dat dey showed outbon they azz
MSD took that one fam lmaoooo
Jstate need to re tune some of those drums ,don’t sound crispy
WT all the way!!
softly says...low jaw drop
Pv all day
WT you think y'all won't it with Cold Steel 😂😂😂
I meant want it?
Dayvon Savage cold steel was inspired by the box 😂
Thatguy Mike uve lost ur mind if u think any meac drum lines are inspired by this swac garbage😂😂😂😂😂 nice try tho wit those high school cadences
muzical35 so SWAC lines are garbage lol
Xisean Anthony cmon Man U c this corny ish
WT too groovy
wt for tha W
JSU is a great drumline but they lazy and dirty you can look and tell .. PV won this one by musicianship and technique because they were clean and sounded clean just needa lock in there rolls but JSU needa practice on playing together because the cadences would be great if it sounded as one but I do agree they need Evans heads ..
+NokeFeedz HD Evans heads? lol you CLEARLY don't understand their sound.. They'd sound poo on those heads son..
+NokeFeedz HD & let's not act like MSD didn't have dirty moments...
JSU
Jackson State fans never admit to being inferior but PVAMU really did show them up
Why is their snares so high ❓ lookin like a pwi
Jsu won
WT got em.. MSD was dirty all OVER the place
I like Jackson state band . But they drums sound horrible . Best drumline in HBCU goes to MDFS hands down . They will eat ever drum line in the SWAC including WT . They don’t even want them problems with Norfolk state drum line .
They drums sound horrible?
You realize that WT mimics a drum set.
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WT is not to be F'd with.....that other line was HORRIBLE and all over the place.....
These dudes are both sloppy..