I like that setup. The only change I would make to it is I would save 3 skill points and put 1 to Nova, 1 to Thunderstorm and 1 to Lightning Mastery, in order to use Thunderstorm with the build. It's not going to destroy any content, but I wouldn't pass on the option of dealing "passive" damage to enemies (and stunning them in the process), especially on players 1-3.
Nice build! I have a Nova Sorceress that is amazing for farm, but now I most want to enjoy the game with my Javazon and build a Frozen Orb Sorceress because i just love this skill. The build I want to make is: Deaths Fatom with 5/5 facet; Call to Arms and Spirit on swap; Nightwing with 5/5 facet; 3/10FCR amulet; Spirit; 100life armor with 4 5/5 facet; Trang Ouls gloves; 2x Stone of Jordan; Arachnid Mesh; TriResist Boots. Sunder Charm, Cold Skillers, life and mana small Charms. Maximize Energy Shield and invest all points on mana. Also, maximize Cold Mastery for the cold imunes. It gets the 105% FCR needes for the teleport breakpoint - 1 from the higher. Nova is for sure better for a overall farm, but I want this build mostly to fast farm Keys and maybe essences, and other specific monsters farm. High mobility speed and good damage on a very cool skill build.
I've watched a few of your videos in the last weeks just for fun and I always wonder why you go for a Spirit Monarch and not one that needs less strength. I've been out of the loop for 20 years or a bit more, was armor that important o was there something else? Edit: Nevermind, I just looked up which shields can roll 4 sockets and the other non-paladin ones require even more strength.
@@Stompy1984Cold☄️🌀☄️🥶 & Lighting ⚡💫 are always my 2 mastery picks cause even though cold starts out very crappy & sure is worth it in the long run but Fire 🔥💥 I think is a bit overrated cause there is no defensive skills but fire sure starts out good but I'd rather choose lighting ⚡💫 over fire🔥💥..I only use fire for warmth to about 14 that's it
3.6k mana is insane. I didn't realize Pray was so good. I always used Defiance merch with Tal Mask and Fort. Instead of Enigma, I have COH. I'm also lvl 86 with just torch and anni for charms so sunder is a must for me sadly.
Not bad. I run 3 piece tals with fathom/nightwing/travs/chancies with a 6isted crystal and 4isted monarch on switch. I just stay away from poison when possible and slot antidotes. For cold immunes I prestatic and have sunder it’s fine
one of the best things enigma comes along with for a mf sorc is 45% faster run walk. everytime u load into a game u get to the WP so much faster, which saves so much time in the long run
This is my favorite MF build skill wise, except I use full Tal's set instead for gearing. The maxed out res was nice, but I might try this gear build as well to see if I like it more since it does bump up dmg compared to my current.
I am trying to understand how the monster immunity now works in the game... Does my sunder charm affect things first, then Infinity, then cold mastery? I really wish blizzard made it more clear. The only thing I read that I seem to be sure about is that when you break a monsters immunity infinity and cold mastery are reduced by 80% to me this means that I would want to maximize my cold mastery in order to bolster any efficiency that that might have for clear speed on cold immune mobs... The major changes that I use from your build is chains of Honor, Mara's kaleidoscope, as well as 7% mf small charms with 10% cold resistance to negate the downside from the grand charm. I am still looking to get a f ew cold skill GC to boost the DMG output... I'm going to do some testing and see if it's viable for me to switch to death's fathom with a faucet, versus using a 40% Rez hoto. I really appreciate everything being res capped especially incase I take a lower res curse etc.
I wonder if anyone has ever put on a T gods, a dwarf star and a ravenfrost at the same time to absorb all the elements??? would it work? and would it be worth it?
I love frozen orb, however there are two thins from making any build with it excel. One it needs to reduce that stupid cooldown, and two it needs a few more synergies to make it viable in 8 player games.
Really cool. I usually use similar Build when i want to farm Mefisto early on. Its just Spirits + Lore, Blue Amulet Cold skills and everything you can get for better, similar Merc, but with some Yellow Etherial Armor with Lifestolen and some Frost NOva chance when Struck :P And voalla. Edit: I have +3 Cold Skills and 10 Cast speed amulet :P heheh
I like this build but pretty much every energy shield build I've tried just gets murdered in baal walks. Players 3 Baal walks are kinda what i use to scale the usefulness of my characters. But i always use infinity on merc. Does elemental absorb work with E.S? I like Wisp Projector. You mentioned damage reduction, does that work with ES?
No, there's only 3 Non Paladin shields that can get 4 sockets and the ones that aren't monarchs require a metric ass ton of strengths. as for swords, sure I guess you could use a ton of different swords, but most common is crystal due to low low requirements. Followed by broad sword and long.
Cure runeword on merc is what help me the most, seems to remove those ailments pretty quick and health regen too! I've seen huge difference with my ladder and non ladder Novas
i love the relaxed play of frozen orb, but i hate the "just skip cold immunes"... i see icy veins has an orb hydra build, but i dont really see many people using it... i was wanting to try an orb/nova build, but then the FCR is kinda contradictory... so now i'm not sure :x
Man, fucking THANK YOU. All other build guides I've seen is alway "put into points into X attribute to equip your items" but I never know what is and they never say or even show how much they put into the base amount.
Yeah i was about to say this exact thing. Chains of honor is another great alternative to enigma for sorcs especially if you want to get those resistances up to farm some harder areas.
Resistances are not very important with energy shield so it's kind of a waste. Energy shield with the telekinesis synergy gobbles up much of that damage. I'd rather get the 2 skills with the MF than the 2 skills with the res. My preference.
Thank you for your time to make this build, its amazing got to HELL dificulty very fast, following exactly the same but i have an issue Just got to hell and im literally stuck to the den of act 1 ( LOL ) , zombies are immune to cold and my chain lighting does literally zero dmg Am i missing something ?
i always wonder why i cant get my plus skills so high, but then i remember playing single player i can find all but cold skillers. so im down 7-8 cold skill stats
@thatotherdan9984 i have a 90 SSF Hardcore Singleplayer Sorc with 20 Tele, 17 ES, 20 Blizzard, 20 Orb, 15 Mystery %75 Block can clear cold places p4 fast and mephisto P4 with decrpy axe, and very tanky. You can even lower def for more dps if you have a good merc. Good HC hero. Also can kill P6 cows very fast when i reset and lower es+tele for cows. Also i dont have any runeword items on her.
I do the pvp immortal(ish) variant 2/20/2os circ with mals 2/20 ammy Safety fcr ring Soj Gerkes - mal Gladiators bane mal Treks Arach Soj Frostburn Hoto 110fcr, 86 fhr bps
you made a huge mistake , telekinesis. its the synergy for mana shield but the % of mana taken per point cap at 75% so you put way more points that you should have. i would rather use a cold sunder charm and max out cold mastery with the over spent points in telekinesis but only if you really want to kill cold immunes, dont forget that cold mastery is divided by 3 id using cold sunder
If you can get the rune words for doom, you can save huge points as you don’t have to place much in cold mastery. You can put the extra point some where else.
Why do you always show 90+ lvl characters with top tier gear? It would be great to show time to time 70-85lvl characters with not SoJ, Viper and all the super charms. Apart of that nice guide. Thx
I do budget builds also on occasion, but they get way less views. Meaning people want to watch them less. Hard to justify making videos that less people want to watch.
@@SweetPhil understand, maybe you could do the same but show first few min how to get there. Meaning with what skills or equipment etc you start than moving to top built like this. I am struggling a lot with transition part having only 1-2 top equipment without Uber and other big charms. Anyway great content
I never understood builds running no shield. It's an obvious choice, since mana to life ratio on soso is 3x more and shield needs only 1 skill to be usable along with meta items.
I like that setup. The only change I would make to it is I would save 3 skill points and put 1 to Nova, 1 to Thunderstorm and 1 to Lightning Mastery, in order to use Thunderstorm with the build. It's not going to destroy any content, but I wouldn't pass on the option of dealing "passive" damage to enemies (and stunning them in the process), especially on players 1-3.
Og orb/ts build was amazing back in the olden days. Then LOD came out...lol
@@donaldmack2307 That was my go-to character every time I was starting new LoD.
I don't see why you don't use a sunder charm. Energy Shield ignores resistances anyway so the lost cold res is irrelevant.
He is a dunder hater.
Dunder Mifflin
Nice build! I have a Nova Sorceress that is amazing for farm, but now I most want to enjoy the game with my Javazon and build a Frozen Orb Sorceress because i just love this skill. The build I want to make is:
Deaths Fatom with 5/5 facet; Call to Arms and Spirit on swap; Nightwing with 5/5 facet; 3/10FCR amulet; Spirit; 100life armor with 4 5/5 facet; Trang Ouls gloves; 2x Stone of Jordan; Arachnid Mesh; TriResist Boots.
Sunder Charm, Cold Skillers, life and mana small Charms.
Maximize Energy Shield and invest all points on mana. Also, maximize Cold Mastery for the cold imunes.
It gets the 105% FCR needes for the teleport breakpoint - 1 from the higher.
Nova is for sure better for a overall farm, but I want this build mostly to fast farm Keys and maybe essences, and other specific monsters farm. High mobility speed and good damage on a very cool skill build.
I've watched a few of your videos in the last weeks just for fun and I always wonder why you go for a Spirit Monarch and not one that needs less strength.
I've been out of the loop for 20 years or a bit more, was armor that important o was there something else?
Edit: Nevermind, I just looked up which shields can roll 4 sockets and the other non-paladin ones require even more strength.
Sundered mobs only recieve 1/5 of the cold mastery.
Maybe use a Doom for the big -60% cold resist.
Also means less points needed in Cold Mastery.
@@Stompy1984Cold☄️🌀☄️🥶 & Lighting ⚡💫 are always my 2 mastery picks cause even though cold starts out very crappy & sure is worth it in the long run but Fire 🔥💥 I think is a bit overrated cause there is no defensive skills but fire sure starts out good but I'd rather choose lighting ⚡💫 over fire🔥💥..I only use fire for warmth to about 14 that's it
3.6k mana is insane. I didn't realize Pray was so good. I always used Defiance merch with Tal Mask and Fort. Instead of Enigma, I have COH. I'm also lvl 86 with just torch and anni for charms so sunder is a must for me sadly.
Not bad. I run 3 piece tals with fathom/nightwing/travs/chancies with a 6isted crystal and 4isted monarch on switch. I just stay away from poison when possible and slot antidotes. For cold immunes I prestatic and have sunder it’s fine
The only other variation of this I have seen is a hardcore one by channel friend WarTh3ory. I think he runs 3 piece tals for MF.
one of the best things enigma comes along with for a mf sorc is 45% faster run walk. everytime u load into a game u get to the WP so much faster, which saves so much time in the long run
This is my favorite MF build skill wise, except I use full Tal's set instead for gearing. The maxed out res was nice, but I might try this gear build as well to see if I like it more since it does bump up dmg compared to my current.
Resistances are useless if you use ES because they're not used in the damage formula.
@@V3Efreet That is good info and why I like being here, thank you
I didn't know either😊
my favorite varient with the cold is the frozen orb with energy shield and tstorm secondary
used it for last 20 years still like the build
I am trying to understand how the monster immunity now works in the game... Does my sunder charm affect things first, then Infinity, then cold mastery? I really wish blizzard made it more clear. The only thing I read that I seem to be sure about is that when you break a monsters immunity infinity and cold mastery are reduced by 80% to me this means that I would want to maximize my cold mastery in order to bolster any efficiency that that might have for clear speed on cold immune mobs... The major changes that I use from your build is chains of Honor, Mara's kaleidoscope, as well as 7% mf small charms with 10% cold resistance to negate the downside from the grand charm. I am still looking to get a f ew cold skill GC to boost the DMG output... I'm going to do some testing and see if it's viable for me to switch to death's fathom with a faucet, versus using a 40% Rez hoto. I really appreciate everything being res capped especially incase I take a lower res curse etc.
what would you say is "stronger" in between these two? Frozen orb or nova?
I wonder if anyone has ever put on a T gods, a dwarf star and a ravenfrost at the same time to absorb all the elements??? would it work? and would it be worth it?
not for an es build, not very well at least.
Do you have a bowzon build guide?
I love frozen orb, however there are two thins from making any build with it excel. One it needs to reduce that stupid cooldown, and two it needs a few more synergies to make it viable in 8 player games.
Really cool.
I usually use similar Build when i want to farm Mefisto early on.
Its just Spirits + Lore, Blue Amulet Cold skills and everything you can get for better, similar Merc, but with some Yellow Etherial Armor with Lifestolen and some Frost NOva chance when Struck :P And voalla.
Edit: I have +3 Cold Skills and 10 Cast speed amulet :P heheh
Can you do it without rare equip and without runewords?
Thank you for another great video. It was very helpful.
I like this build but pretty much every energy shield build I've tried just gets murdered in baal walks. Players 3 Baal walks are kinda what i use to scale the usefulness of my characters. But i always use infinity on merc. Does elemental absorb work with E.S? I like Wisp Projector. You mentioned damage reduction, does that work with ES?
Can i Use every Schild or every Blade wiht 4 Socket for spirit ?
No, there's only 3 Non Paladin shields that can get 4 sockets and the ones that aren't monarchs require a metric ass ton of strengths. as for swords, sure I guess you could use a ton of different swords, but most common is crystal due to low low requirements. Followed by broad sword and long.
Never understood why they removed the cooldown on FO
Wasn’t frozen orb able to be spammed at your cast speed back in the day? Same with blizzard?
Yeah pre 1.10 I think
How does Energy Shield work with that Curse that Ball and the Succubus use that makes you burn health on mana usage?
Cure runeword on merc is what help me the most, seems to remove those ailments pretty quick and health regen too! I've seen huge difference with my ladder and non ladder Novas
i love the relaxed play of frozen orb, but i hate the "just skip cold immunes"... i see icy veins has an orb hydra build, but i dont really see many people using it... i was wanting to try an orb/nova build, but then the FCR is kinda contradictory... so now i'm not sure :x
fcr isn't contradictory, you can squeeze more nova's between orb cd's
I like hydra orb myself. It's the only sorc I have ever and will ever play. Not super fast until decked out n need strong merc for double immunes.
Man, fucking THANK YOU. All other build guides I've seen is alway "put into points into X attribute to equip your items" but I never know what is and they never say or even show how much they put into the base amount.
I like to user ormus with energy shield and 15%. +cold damage, really pump forb damage
Im a big fan of chains of honor armor for this build. It shares slot of stats with enigma, just in a different spread
Yeah i was about to say this exact thing. Chains of honor is another great alternative to enigma for sorcs especially if you want to get those resistances up to farm some harder areas.
Resistances are not very important with energy shield so it's kind of a waste. Energy shield with the telekinesis synergy gobbles up much of that damage. I'd rather get the 2 skills with the MF than the 2 skills with the res. My preference.
@@SweetPhil The other advantage you get with Enigma is the massive +strength, saving you a bunch up points which you can now allocate to energy
Thank you for your time to make this build, its amazing got to HELL dificulty very fast, following exactly the same but i have an issue
Just got to hell and im literally stuck to the den of act 1 ( LOL ) , zombies are immune to cold and my chain lighting does literally zero dmg
Am i missing something ?
You should try Frozen orb with Firewall OrbWall sorc it was my favorite before I started to play with NovaSorc
If you play online I’d go for the 105 fcr since you don’t have static maps and teleport will be too slow.
Nice video , bro.
I really need them to remove the cooldown on Frozen Orb
This was the go to build for me.
i always wonder why i cant get my plus skills so high, but then i remember playing single player i can find all but cold skillers. so im down 7-8 cold skill stats
that merc setup is so nice for es
Boss Killer offline Player 8 Good?
It's a tradition unlike any other, it's the Masters
Players 1 is nice. Chill and just enjoy the game at your own pace
Should warmth be maxed out if your using mana as health? Would it not increase survivability?
Would be helpful but would likely sacrifice damage in many builds. You max it for a bow sorc
Just use insight on merc
Is this build viable for hardcore?
To respec into after finishing playthrough perhaps. Its not best possible, but could be good. I'm not a hardcore player though.
Nice guide. Would recommend not hovering over a particular skill though on the tree page as it covers most of the skill tree due to the info popup.
20 Frozen Orb + 20 Blizzard does alot more damage than 20 Orb + 20 bolt.
I'd prefer to drop them points into e.s. and telekinesis.
@thatotherdan9984 i have a 90 SSF Hardcore Singleplayer Sorc with 20 Tele, 17 ES, 20 Blizzard, 20 Orb, 15 Mystery %75 Block can clear cold places p4 fast and mephisto P4 with decrpy axe, and very tanky. You can even lower def for more dps if you have a good merc. Good HC hero. Also can kill P6 cows very fast when i reset and lower es+tele for cows. Also i dont have any runeword items on her.
well you still need resistances because energy shield is not 100& effective.
I do the pvp immortal(ish) variant
2/20/2os circ with mals
2/20 ammy
Safety fcr ring
Soj
Gerkes - mal
Gladiators bane mal
Treks
Arach
Soj
Frostburn
Hoto
110fcr, 86 fhr bps
you made a huge mistake , telekinesis. its the synergy for mana shield but the % of mana taken per point cap at 75% so you put way more points that you should have. i would rather use a cold sunder charm and max out cold mastery with the over spent points in telekinesis but only if you really want to kill cold immunes, dont forget that cold mastery is divided by 3 id using cold sunder
Actually it's devided by 5 if I'm not mistaken.
If u have enigma why you put a point into teleport?
You have to anyways to get form to energy shield.
🤦♂️ 😂
@SweetPhil sorry I dont usually use enigma on sorc or energy shield so I was a bit lost
Blizzard / Frozen orb is far better than going just pure frozen orb.
If only ormus could have level 30 skills.. orb sorc might be good again :(
lol 13 med on insight but chains of honor merc.... :D looks prepared just for video :D
If you can get the rune words for doom, you can save huge points as you don’t have to place much in cold mastery. You can put the extra point some where else.
I’m playing D4 bro you should play D4 now bro
Silly question what should I put in a 2 socket 5 nado helm. HC NL
Orb in duel is negative dmg not worth
how 3.6k mana tho lol
Why do you always show 90+ lvl characters with top tier gear? It would be great to show time to time 70-85lvl characters with not SoJ, Viper and all the super charms. Apart of that nice guide. Thx
I do budget builds also on occasion, but they get way less views. Meaning people want to watch them less. Hard to justify making videos that less people want to watch.
@@SweetPhil understand, maybe you could do the same but show first few min how to get there. Meaning with what skills or equipment etc you start than moving to top built like this. I am struggling a lot with transition part having only 1-2 top equipment without Uber and other big charms. Anyway great content
First 😊
You don’t know the game mechanics well enough to make guides. IMHO.
I never understood builds running no shield. It's an obvious choice, since mana to life ratio on soso is 3x more and shield needs only 1 skill to be usable along with meta items.