My hoka Torrent 2 have 800km in them and still going strong with no signs of damage to the upper. I've yet to retire any of my shoes. I think I must be quite a gentle user!
Over 1,000 miles in ASICS magic speed, Saucony Endorphin Speed and many more. We don’t need more than 2 or 3 shoes at any time if we were honest with ourselves, yeah? 🤔
Hey Ben, great video on how to get more out of our running shoes while reducing waste! Repairing shoes using a pair-ups kit is such a great idea, and I appreciate the tip on using old shoes for walking. I'm doing this for some time, hehe. Your efforts to lessen environmental impact are admirable and inspiring. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Mihai! It's something I'm going to try and think more consciously about this year and moving forward as I do have a lot a running shoes so want to get as much out of them as possible for finances and the environment. Thanks for watching my friend
David from The Green Runners here! Fab video Ben, thanks for extending the life of your shoes. Personally I have trail shoes I've just repaired on 1200km and 1400km respectively, plus a pair of road shoes still going (albeit for shorter runs only and with toe holes) at nearly 1800km! #howwekitup 🙏🙌
Thanks David. That's a decent innings for your trail shoes and amazing for the road shoes at 1800km! Now I've got the kit im prepared for any possible upper issues so hopefully can get a solid amount of miles out of all of my shoes 😊
Never needed to repair the upper on a shoe, though the inside of the heel counter for me is usually the first place to go so this is a great idea! When I started running I heard sooo many youtube runners telling us to retire shoes after only 5-600km or even as low as 400km, especially for us older runners... something which I believed at first but ended up just ignoring as it just seemed too wasteful. Last year I was thrilled to learn from physiotherapist Brodie Sharpe on the Run Smarter podcast/youtube channel that the science does not support this at all and that we can indeed use our shoes far far far longer. The science does seem to support using a variety of different shoes though, which I definitely do. Like you Ben, as a shoe loses life, I start to use it for shorter runs only, based on how I feel in them, and then only on the treadmill, walking and even for working out at the gym. This way I've put over 1500km on my old Hoka Clifton 5's and they still look and feel great, still with tread on the soles. I stopped using them for long runs around 750km, and they lost that magical "Clifton" feel that I love so much at around 600km, as did my Clifton 7s too... though I'm still using the 7s for long runs at 750km, just not as happily, and they still look as good as new!! I suspect that us slower and lighter weight female runners put a lot less pressure on our shoes AND having too many shoes helps too, to spread the love!!! Well, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!!! 😁🏃🏻♀🙋🏻♀🏃🏻♀
That's amazing Bev, good to hear you've got so much out of your shoes especially the Clifton 5's 🤯 Completely agree I think shoe companies often like the narrative that you need to replace shoes very quickly but in many cases we can get more out of them without getting injured as long as like you say we use them wisely as part of a rotation and don't start doing intervals for instance with our shoes where the cushioning is just gone! I've got quite a heavy step so it can mean with some softer cushioned shoes it goes more quickly for me but have been very pleased with the durability of the sole of my trail shoes recently!
At first I wanted to disagree, but you are ultimately very right. The well looked after shoe can look almost as new, but the cushioning may be long gone. For some time I have thought that companies are just making-up those limits, but running long runs with my 600km+ pair started giving me strange pain. That ceased after swapping shoes.
Loved this one Ben! I had 2 pairs of Hoka Cliftons that went over a thousand miles each, but the uppers never split! I used them to mow the lawn before they went to shoe heaven! LOL! Keep pushing!
Thanks Paul! That's really good going on road shoes to get 1000 miles out of them, great to get your monies worth 😀 Hope you're having a good week so far
Awesome idea Ben! I have got an old pair of SG4s that could do with the pair ups treatment. Unfortunately for me I don't have Carla's artistic talent to make them as cool as yours. Thanks for sharing this with us buddy. It's something we should all be doing for sure. I think you will get another 200 - 300 miles out of the shoes. 😎🤘
Thanks Ben! Yeh my Speedgoat 4's are looking much cooler than my Caldera's with Carla using her artistic flair on those 😄 The pair ups kits are great, really easy to use and they have everything you need which is good. With the large kit I got I could probably do another 3 or 4 repairs with them so if they can extend the shoe life by even 100 miles will be good value. Cheers for watching mate 👍
This is a very informational video with a lot of useful information on choosing running shoes. I never thought so much about my choice of shoes, but it makes total sense: shoes provide the touch surface with the pavement. Thank you. Watched in full.
Great video Ben! I also transition my shoes to causal wear as well. For my old trail running shoes, I use them for hiking, or for days were the conditions are terrible. Good stuff on the shoe repairs. I don't have a guess on how many miles you are gonna get, but I'm glad you are doing your best to recycle what you can.
Thanks Sage! Good to hear you retire your trail shoes for hiking. I'm planning to do the same when I retire my first pair of trail shoes, they're still just about clinging on at the moment 😄
Such a great idea for saving the environment. The most I`ve got out of road shoes is 630 miles for the Brooks Glycerin. For the trails, my Speedgoat 5`s are still going strong at 550 miles, however I will have to check out pair up as the upper is starting to rip.
Cheers Oscar. That's good going on the Glycerins, which version have you got? I'm looking at them for my next road shoe as they seem to be good for wider shoes. They're great little kits from pair ups, would definitely recommend if you've got an upper emergency!
@@timeonfeet I had version 19. From 500-600 miles I was only using them on grass and gravel paths as the cushioning was starting to fade. They did irritate my achillies torwards the end, so I woudn`t purhcase them again. However, the Glycerin for me is still way better than the Hoka Bondi, as that gave me knee pain every time I used it. In the future I will look to other brands for max cushioned road shoes, perhaps Asics gel nimbus or Saucony Triumph as I`ve not tried those brands yet.
@@oscar8180 good to hear your thoughts on them. I've never bought a decent cushioned road shoe as a daily trainer so bit of an unknown for me! Need to get trying some different ones out. I had a similar thing with the Hoka Arahi. Bought a second hand pair, the cushioning was dead and they were really uncomfortable
Great tips Ben. I think I’ll try repairing the uppers on my Hokas as all of them have worn one the toe and the crease joint. I’d really like to find a resole company so I can replace the tread and lugs - do know anyone who can do this? Thanks for sharing! 👍
Thanks Francois. I don't know if a company who do tread and lug replacements but will keep an ear out and let you know if I can find any. Thanks for watching
I may be dumb, but I suppose if you'd remove that mud off upper more often, the shoes would last longer. I run most of my mileage on pavements, and both the toe cap and the heel counter gets ripped over time. By my father-in-law is out there to extend the life of my running shoes working with horses 😀
I think that's probably right, I know there are a couple of groups out there who give advice on how you can treat your shoes to get a longer life out of them and lessen the likelihood of needing to repair. It's something I definitely need to look into. It's hard with trail shoes as they get muddy pretty much every run in these conditions but probably wool extend their life by removing it
100%. The best way to look after your trainers is the care. Heel tears or degradation is usually due to runners not undoing laces enough or at all when taking off and putting on. Uppers that are used for trails often get muddy and soaked. The best way is to let them dry naturally and brush the mud off as soon as you can. A wipe with a damp cloth (with Ecover) is perfect. Often if mud left on for too long, the enzymes in the mud will break the material down over time. Never put your trainers in the washing machine, in the tumble dryer or on a radiator as it affects the glue compound and weakens the joins if the composite materials. Happy to do a piece on this if required. 🙏🏻💚
@@thegreenrunners602 Thanks for the tips, really helpful, will definitely look at doing this more 👍 Road shoes it's much simpler but can be done with the trail shoes too
Never knew about this company mate. I'll have to be checking them out . Thanks for sharing with us and I hope you get about another 300 in those Hokas ... sole is near on perfect still lol. Just a quick one. There's a great company called Trainer Armour who do something similar except with big toe holes and they also now do heel patches too. Worth it to get those rxtra miles from your shoes.
Ah nice, haven't come across them before, will definitely check them out. Haha exactly Hoka's are just like new, if I sold them second hand I'd just put 'like new' on the ad 😅
Nice one Ben. I'm hoping to get a fair few more miles out of mine now as the sole is still pretty cushy. How many miles are you on for yours at the moment?
@@timeonfeet only done 500 miles and sole is still tip top….so it will be down to how long the repairs hold up and whether the rest of the upper fails.
Holy moly that's some serious shoes. I keep one pair of shoes on the go and one old pair in my car incase I forget my in use pair. Nice repair job. I have a pair of ultra boost with 1,100miles in them and they are not torn yet. 😲
Tell me about it Neil, my biggest injury risk at the moment is tripping over a pair of them 😄 Ah nice, that's really good going on the ultra boost, solid innings there!
I’ve taken needle and thread to a few shoes, I find the shoe killer is when the inner heel section fails, that’s why they go to shoe heaven. It is frustrating when the soles are still in good order and the uppers fail 😕
Definitely, a lot of soles seems pretty durable overall, at least on many trail shoes. It's hard with uppers as I like them to be light and breathable mostly but that can often mean they're less durable
I think Carla has the creative edge over you on the design repairs there Ben ;) nice job tho, wouldnt have even considered using tape to repair (although when mine start to die it's because the soles are wearing down rather than upper problems). Nice job! x
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Really interested to know how you track your mileage completed in each pair. I've wanted to do this but assumed it would be too much effort. Any advice would be hugely appreciated. Thanks!
Hi Jon. I track the mileage for each shoe through Strava. You just go to the 'add gear' section and then put in your different running shoes then each time you do a run you select which shoes you used from a drop down menu and it calculates it for you
Just rewatching this after watching a Damian Hall podcast. May I ask Ben how your repairs are holding up and if you got a lot more miles out of them / extended new shoe life?
They're holding up well, I've got an extra 75 miles out of the Brooks so far though just use them for easy runs up to 2 hours. The Hoka's I've haven't used much more, an extra 20 miles as they're a bit big for me but both pairs probably have another 100 miler or so in them.
What's the highest number of miles/km you've got out of a pair of running shoes? Let me know the brand and model too 🏃♀️🏃♂️
My hoka Torrent 2 have 800km in them and still going strong with no signs of damage to the upper. I've yet to retire any of my shoes. I think I must be quite a gentle user!
Saucony triumph 19 450 mile and still going strong. Should go 550.
@@markg99 That's good going Mark, I need to stop beating up my shoes I think!
@@themechanic4409 Nice! Carla is a big fan of Saucony and her pairs have all been really durable so far
Over 1,000 miles in ASICS magic speed, Saucony Endorphin Speed and many more. We don’t need more than 2 or 3 shoes at any time if we were honest with ourselves, yeah? 🤔
Hey Ben, great video on how to get more out of our running shoes while reducing waste! Repairing shoes using a pair-ups kit is such a great idea, and I appreciate the tip on using old shoes for walking. I'm doing this for some time, hehe. Your efforts to lessen environmental impact are admirable and inspiring. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Mihai! It's something I'm going to try and think more consciously about this year and moving forward as I do have a lot a running shoes so want to get as much out of them as possible for finances and the environment. Thanks for watching my friend
Loved Carla's creative touch... flowers and smileys!!!!! 💚😊💚
The Speedgoats are definitely looking cooler than the Calderas 😅
David from The Green Runners here! Fab video Ben, thanks for extending the life of your shoes.
Personally I have trail shoes I've just repaired on 1200km and 1400km respectively, plus a pair of road shoes still going (albeit for shorter runs only and with toe holes) at nearly 1800km!
#howwekitup 🙏🙌
Thanks David. That's a decent innings for your trail shoes and amazing for the road shoes at 1800km! Now I've got the kit im prepared for any possible upper issues so hopefully can get a solid amount of miles out of all of my shoes 😊
Never needed to repair the upper on a shoe, though the inside of the heel counter for me is usually the first place to go so this is a great idea! When I started running I heard sooo many youtube runners telling us to retire shoes after only 5-600km or even as low as 400km, especially for us older runners... something which I believed at first but ended up just ignoring as it just seemed too wasteful. Last year I was thrilled to learn from physiotherapist Brodie Sharpe on the Run Smarter podcast/youtube channel that the science does not support this at all and that we can indeed use our shoes far far far longer. The science does seem to support using a variety of different shoes though, which I definitely do. Like you Ben, as a shoe loses life, I start to use it for shorter runs only, based on how I feel in them, and then only on the treadmill, walking and even for working out at the gym. This way I've put over 1500km on my old Hoka Clifton 5's and they still look and feel great, still with tread on the soles. I stopped using them for long runs around 750km, and they lost that magical "Clifton" feel that I love so much at around 600km, as did my Clifton 7s too... though I'm still using the 7s for long runs at 750km, just not as happily, and they still look as good as new!! I suspect that us slower and lighter weight female runners put a lot less pressure on our shoes AND having too many shoes helps too, to spread the love!!! Well, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!!! 😁🏃🏻♀🙋🏻♀🏃🏻♀
That's amazing Bev, good to hear you've got so much out of your shoes especially the Clifton 5's 🤯 Completely agree I think shoe companies often like the narrative that you need to replace shoes very quickly but in many cases we can get more out of them without getting injured as long as like you say we use them wisely as part of a rotation and don't start doing intervals for instance with our shoes where the cushioning is just gone! I've got quite a heavy step so it can mean with some softer cushioned shoes it goes more quickly for me but have been very pleased with the durability of the sole of my trail shoes recently!
At first I wanted to disagree, but you are ultimately very right. The well looked after shoe can look almost as new, but the cushioning may be long gone. For some time I have thought that companies are just making-up those limits, but running long runs with my 600km+ pair started giving me strange pain. That ceased after swapping shoes.
Loved this one Ben! I had 2 pairs of Hoka Cliftons that went over a thousand miles each, but the uppers never split! I used them to mow the lawn before they went to shoe heaven! LOL! Keep pushing!
Thanks Paul! That's really good going on road shoes to get 1000 miles out of them, great to get your monies worth 😀 Hope you're having a good week so far
Awesome idea Ben! I have got an old pair of SG4s that could do with the pair ups treatment. Unfortunately for me I don't have Carla's artistic talent to make them as cool as yours. Thanks for sharing this with us buddy. It's something we should all be doing for sure. I think you will get another 200 - 300 miles out of the shoes. 😎🤘
Thanks Ben! Yeh my Speedgoat 4's are looking much cooler than my Caldera's with Carla using her artistic flair on those 😄 The pair ups kits are great, really easy to use and they have everything you need which is good. With the large kit I got I could probably do another 3 or 4 repairs with them so if they can extend the shoe life by even 100 miles will be good value. Cheers for watching mate 👍
This is a very informational video with a lot of useful information on choosing running shoes. I never thought so much about my choice of shoes, but it makes total sense: shoes provide the touch surface with the pavement. Thank you. Watched in full.
Thanks for watching, great to hear you found it useful 👍
Great video Ben! I also transition my shoes to causal wear as well. For my old trail running shoes, I use them for hiking, or for days were the conditions are terrible. Good stuff on the shoe repairs. I don't have a guess on how many miles you are gonna get, but I'm glad you are doing your best to recycle what you can.
Thanks Sage! Good to hear you retire your trail shoes for hiking. I'm planning to do the same when I retire my first pair of trail shoes, they're still just about clinging on at the moment 😄
Such a great idea for saving the environment. The most I`ve got out of road shoes is 630 miles for the Brooks Glycerin. For the trails, my Speedgoat 5`s are still going strong at 550 miles, however I will have to check out pair up as the upper is starting to rip.
Cheers Oscar. That's good going on the Glycerins, which version have you got? I'm looking at them for my next road shoe as they seem to be good for wider shoes. They're great little kits from pair ups, would definitely recommend if you've got an upper emergency!
@@timeonfeet I had version 19. From 500-600 miles I was only using them on grass and gravel paths as the cushioning was starting to fade. They did irritate my achillies torwards the end, so I woudn`t purhcase them again. However, the Glycerin for me is still way better than the Hoka Bondi, as that gave me knee pain every time I used it. In the future I will look to other brands for max cushioned road shoes, perhaps Asics gel nimbus or Saucony Triumph as I`ve not tried those brands yet.
@@oscar8180 good to hear your thoughts on them. I've never bought a decent cushioned road shoe as a daily trainer so bit of an unknown for me! Need to get trying some different ones out. I had a similar thing with the Hoka Arahi. Bought a second hand pair, the cushioning was dead and they were really uncomfortable
Great tips Ben. I think I’ll try repairing the uppers on my Hokas as all of them have worn one the toe and the crease joint. I’d really like to find a resole company so I can replace the tread and lugs - do know anyone who can do this? Thanks for sharing! 👍
Thanks Francois. I don't know if a company who do tread and lug replacements but will keep an ear out and let you know if I can find any. Thanks for watching
I usually pass mine on to the father in law. At some point in the future, he'll be mowing the lawn in a pair Nike next% when I own a pair 😁
Haha nice one Ian. That's a great way to get more out of your shoes. Lucky father in law!
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I may be dumb, but I suppose if you'd remove that mud off upper more often, the shoes would last longer. I run most of my mileage on pavements, and both the toe cap and the heel counter gets ripped over time. By my father-in-law is out there to extend the life of my running shoes working with horses 😀
I think that's probably right, I know there are a couple of groups out there who give advice on how you can treat your shoes to get a longer life out of them and lessen the likelihood of needing to repair. It's something I definitely need to look into. It's hard with trail shoes as they get muddy pretty much every run in these conditions but probably wool extend their life by removing it
100%. The best way to look after your trainers is the care.
Heel tears or degradation is usually due to runners not undoing laces enough or at all when taking off and putting on.
Uppers that are used for trails often get muddy and soaked. The best way is to let them dry naturally and brush the mud off as soon as you can. A wipe with a damp cloth (with Ecover) is perfect.
Often if mud left on for too long, the enzymes in the mud will break the material down over time.
Never put your trainers in the washing machine, in the tumble dryer or on a radiator as it affects the glue compound and weakens the joins if the composite materials.
Happy to do a piece on this if required. 🙏🏻💚
@@thegreenrunners602 Thanks for the tips, really helpful, will definitely look at doing this more 👍 Road shoes it's much simpler but can be done with the trail shoes too
Never knew about this company mate. I'll have to be checking them out . Thanks for sharing with us and I hope you get about another 300 in those Hokas ... sole is near on perfect still lol.
Just a quick one. There's a great company called Trainer Armour who do something similar except with big toe holes and they also now do heel patches too. Worth it to get those rxtra miles from your shoes.
Ah nice, haven't come across them before, will definitely check them out. Haha exactly Hoka's are just like new, if I sold them second hand I'd just put 'like new' on the ad 😅
I used pair ups recently to extend the life of my Speedgoats too. Seems to work well. Should get an extra 200 miles I reckon. 👍👍
Nice one Ben. I'm hoping to get a fair few more miles out of mine now as the sole is still pretty cushy. How many miles are you on for yours at the moment?
@@timeonfeet only done 500 miles and sole is still tip top….so it will be down to how long the repairs hold up and whether the rest of the upper fails.
@@bensmith6633 Hope it holds out for you! Have heard a couple of people take them over 1000 miles so overall seem pretty durable on the sole
Holy moly that's some serious shoes. I keep one pair of shoes on the go and one old pair in my car incase I forget my in use pair.
Nice repair job. I have a pair of ultra boost with 1,100miles in them and they are not torn yet. 😲
Tell me about it Neil, my biggest injury risk at the moment is tripping over a pair of them 😄 Ah nice, that's really good going on the ultra boost, solid innings there!
Good ideas.
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I’ve taken needle and thread to a few shoes, I find the shoe killer is when the inner heel section fails, that’s why they go to shoe heaven. It is frustrating when the soles are still in good order and the uppers fail 😕
Definitely, a lot of soles seems pretty durable overall, at least on many trail shoes. It's hard with uppers as I like them to be light and breathable mostly but that can often mean they're less durable
There’s a great repair for inner trainer heels at Trainer Armour. 👍🏻💚
@@thegreenrunners602 Ah nice, will have to check that out. I've got a pair where the heel cup is going
I think Carla has the creative edge over you on the design repairs there Ben ;) nice job tho, wouldnt have even considered using tape to repair (although when mine start to die it's because the soles are wearing down rather than upper problems). Nice job! x
Definitely Nic 😂 My repair definitely had a little less flair! I've taken both pairs out now for a run and pleased to say they're holding up!
@@timeonfeet lol, lets say that you didn't know she was going to be quite so creative 😉 glad to hear they are holding up tho, nice job!!
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Really interested to know how you track your mileage completed in each pair. I've wanted to do this but assumed it would be too much effort. Any advice would be hugely appreciated. Thanks!
Hi Jon. I track the mileage for each shoe through Strava. You just go to the 'add gear' section and then put in your different running shoes then each time you do a run you select which shoes you used from a drop down menu and it calculates it for you
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Just rewatching this after watching a Damian Hall podcast. May I ask Ben how your repairs are holding up and if you got a lot more miles out of them / extended new shoe life?
They're holding up well, I've got an extra 75 miles out of the Brooks so far though just use them for easy runs up to 2 hours. The Hoka's I've haven't used much more, an extra 20 miles as they're a bit big for me but both pairs probably have another 100 miler or so in them.
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