I hope you have a good audience for this programme - the Bernstein and Gorecki are fabulous pieces, and Ms Khalil is an amazing soprano (I've had the good fortune of working with her in Canada). Enjoy your channel a lot - and I practice to your drones almost daily!! Bob Fraser - bass trombone Victoria Symphony (Canada)
Richard as a bassoonist, I absolutely love this idea to replace an existing contrabassoon or any other instrument with a newer instrument that hasn't been created until now to experiement with a newer sound that hasn't been heard before, that "may" actually sound better now with an extended range in the bassoon section! Instead of having the 50 millionth time a performance of a piece with the same instrumentation is always done, we should sometimes replace existing instruments with a newer instrument in the same family to see how it sounds. You won't know unless you try it, no harm done! I actually would like to ask for a crazy request when you someday get the keywork on the instrument in this category of experimentation is to have a performance of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring with replacing the second contra/4th bassoon or first contrabassoon part with a subcontrabassoon as an experiment! Going back to the days when Stravinsky was experimenting with his music (with all the controversary behind it) in the early 1910s!
Rite of Spring would be tough to justify. The only passage I can think of that could benefit from subcontra is the pesante portion of Spring Rounds, where the 2 contrabassoons are in parallel fifths. If you really wanted to show off the subcontra, you could have the third bassoon double on subcontra for that passage (doubing the 2nd contrabassoon down an octave). The one I really want to do is the organ pedal solos from The Planets: th-cam.com/video/YpoUTg4T0yY/w-d-xo.html
@@Subcontrabassoon I know that passage would be interesting to hear with a contra and a subcontra and that would make it even more grumbling sounding. I think regardless whichever place you find a way to include the instrument in the work. One other idea you could try is including the subcontra as another new auxiliary in the same section along with the 4 bassoons and the 2 contras in the same section and create a new part with the sub-contra that would double say the 3rd bassoon in that one section. So maybe a little rewriting with the octaves might be needed possibly. I think it could work but you never know unless you try it.
I used to play in an orchestra that was pretty liberal with letting the percussion section find gear from anywhere in any kind of condition to play very particular features in several pieces. Guys literally could pull a random crankshaft from their uncle's garage if it would play the role. Relatively speaking, the SCB's prototype state ain't that big a deal.
I understand this is a ticketed performance, so I know it's unlikely, but will there be a recording of at least those excerpts available after the concert? A new orchestral premiere is huge, and for an instrument I've been excited about for so long, but I won't be able to make it to that concert due to school (I would've made the 6 hour drive if I could!) Even if that's not possible, major congrats on your instrument's premiere! I wish you the best in the rest of prototyping/production of this incredibly niche instrument and can't wait to see it make its second appearance at a concert!
Definitely a big step forward for this instrument becoming more of a reality! We won't know until more performances and especially when that keywork with get added to the instrument with opening up more music opportunities for the instrument.
For licensing reasons (the piece is still under copyright), it's unlikely we'll be able to release that excerpt of the performance. But there's nothing to prevent me from recording a bunch of octave E's by myself after the performance.
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Very cool, congratulations on this milestone in the project.
As someone who has lived his entire life in the northeast (NJ, VT, MA), I rarely hear about anything coming out of Arkansas. Nice to know about this!
I hope you have a good audience for this programme - the Bernstein and Gorecki are fabulous pieces, and Ms Khalil is an amazing soprano (I've had the good fortune of working with her in Canada). Enjoy your channel a lot - and I practice to your drones almost daily!! Bob Fraser - bass trombone Victoria Symphony (Canada)
Richard as a bassoonist, I absolutely love this idea to replace an existing contrabassoon or any other instrument with a newer instrument that hasn't been created until now to experiement with a newer sound that hasn't been heard before, that "may" actually sound better now with an extended range in the bassoon section! Instead of having the 50 millionth time a performance of a piece with the same instrumentation is always done, we should sometimes replace existing instruments with a newer instrument in the same family to see how it sounds. You won't know unless you try it, no harm done!
I actually would like to ask for a crazy request when you someday get the keywork on the instrument in this category of experimentation is to have a performance of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring with replacing the second contra/4th bassoon or first contrabassoon part with a subcontrabassoon as an experiment! Going back to the days when Stravinsky was experimenting with his music (with all the controversary behind it) in the early 1910s!
Rite of Spring would be tough to justify. The only passage I can think of that could benefit from subcontra is the pesante portion of Spring Rounds, where the 2 contrabassoons are in parallel fifths. If you really wanted to show off the subcontra, you could have the third bassoon double on subcontra for that passage (doubing the 2nd contrabassoon down an octave). The one I really want to do is the organ pedal solos from The Planets: th-cam.com/video/YpoUTg4T0yY/w-d-xo.html
@@Subcontrabassoon I know that passage would be interesting to hear with a contra and a subcontra and that would make it even more grumbling sounding. I think regardless whichever place you find a way to include the instrument in the work. One other idea you could try is including the subcontra as another new auxiliary in the same section along with the 4 bassoons and the 2 contras in the same section and create a new part with the sub-contra that would double say the 3rd bassoon in that one section. So maybe a little rewriting with the octaves might be needed possibly. I think it could work but you never know unless you try it.
I used to play in an orchestra that was pretty liberal with letting the percussion section find gear from anywhere in any kind of condition to play very particular features in several pieces. Guys literally could pull a random crankshaft from their uncle's garage if it would play the role. Relatively speaking, the SCB's prototype state ain't that big a deal.
I understand this is a ticketed performance, so I know it's unlikely, but will there be a recording of at least those excerpts available after the concert? A new orchestral premiere is huge, and for an instrument I've been excited about for so long, but I won't be able to make it to that concert due to school (I would've made the 6 hour drive if I could!)
Even if that's not possible, major congrats on your instrument's premiere! I wish you the best in the rest of prototyping/production of this incredibly niche instrument and can't wait to see it make its second appearance at a concert!
Definitely a big step forward for this instrument becoming more of a reality! We won't know until more performances and especially when that keywork with get added to the instrument with opening up more music opportunities for the instrument.
For licensing reasons (the piece is still under copyright), it's unlikely we'll be able to release that excerpt of the performance. But there's nothing to prevent me from recording a bunch of octave E's by myself after the performance.
@@Subcontrabassoon Surely a short excerpt would be fair use, nay?
This is exciting! I’ve been following your progress for years now, I wish you the best of luck!
Holy shit, heck yeah!!!
3:34 That pppppp must mean something like "pretend you are playing" lol
What the difference between "pppppp" and "ppppp"?
@@jpsned One is pretend you are playing, the other one pretend you are playing but slightly louder.
@@somerandomdragon558 😁
Reserved my rental car and purchased my ticket. I'll be in attendance.
It will be a pleasure to finally meet you in person!
Also, try to come to the concert by 6:30pm so you can catch the preconcert talk which will include the subcontra.
If only Shostakovich, Ravel, Schönberg or Stravinsky were still alive, you'd have your premiere toute suite.
This is gonna be so fricking epic!1!!
Awesome! And great program!
Great that such a cool instrument gets a proper chance to play. Here's to hoping a keyed prototype comes into existence someday!
Bravo!!! Toi toi toi friend!
Fayetteville, Arkansas, U.S.A.
Great. Besides, I‘m a honorary citizen of Little Rock. ;-))
Nice! Congratulations! Will there be a recording of the excerpt after the premiere?
Very pity that I am living in Tokyo!
Suggestion: Toreador Song, deleted scene.
EDITED: See Richard's reply below.
Mvt I includes all winds. Mvt II only clarinets and horns. Mvt III flutes, clarinets, and horns.
@@Subcontrabassoon The world awaits a fully-keyed, armed, and operational subcontrabassoon.