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I think it’s more that older methods calculated that it happened around 65.5 million years ago and most people rounded down, but more modern dating methods have given us a date of 66.038 million years ago, plus or minus 11,000 years
For many years ive watched your videos. Im sure i speak for all the viewers here when i say, Thank you for your wonferful work!! Very insightful, thought provoking and filled with intersting facts. Look forward to the next instalment!!
Watched the entire video, title is clickbait. No mention of billionaires secretly directing asteroids to earth and we not knowing why... good video maybe, but the title is bullshit.
I absolutly love this channel, i would support it if I could, Im a 70 yo pensioner. Have followed for a long time. Oh that I could be alive in the 21st century, The things you people will see I envy you so much. Live long and prosper.
You CAN be alive in the 21st century. You ARE alive, unless you're dead, whiI seriously doubt, since I've never seen a dead person comment on TH-cam. We're almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century.
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A good way to do this, would be small bots, even nano bots. They land on the asteroid and make larger bots and so on. Then they jettison the stuff back to us. Maybe the main craft that drops them is a huge solar cell to start. If they ever get pure electrical propulsion down they can slow and stear them maybe. Park them nearer. Or 6-8 crafts park and lock on an object and slow it and bring it closer.
For a recent discovery in electrical propulsion see the Popular Mechanics article titled "An Engineer Says He’s Found a Way to Overcome Earth’s Gravity"
Seeing as how the moon has millions of asteroids laying around a moon base would be the most logical starting point. don't even have to chase them. could be entire gold boulders there. Eventually the materials for space travel will need to be mined in space and processed on the moon anyways. No atmosphere to cause problems.
The problem is space treaties surrounding the moon. Officially, no country is allowed to "claim" any parts of the moon, and the legal question is completely up in the air whether or not private companies can touch the moon let alone mine resources from it.
@@mateothomas7071you mean if private enterprise got there. Unfortunately the government got there, so they focus on the impractical and are massively wasteful while doing it.
The really limited resource is habitable space. That Davida asteroide contains enough material for several Earth surface equivalents of O'Neil cylinders.
Many of these resources are only valuable because they are scarce. If we suddenly gained a huge supply of gold we wouldn’t suddenly be rich. Gold would just lose all of its value.
Population and in the scenario placed forth in the video 2 worlds would be using it as a currency basis not to mention the asteroid mining fields so to speak themselves using it as a currency backing our outright. It seems to me that is one of the major pushes behind everyone who can rushing to space.
gold being shiny and only useful as a conductor and a few other things; it was decided to use it as a trust standard. Now we have nothing but promises. Empty promises.
Well, if I went back in time to my grandmother’s day back in 1918 and told her everyone in the future has a device that can communicate with anyone in the world and also gave access to almost all the information and research in human history, and it’s no bigger than a wallet, she’d laugh me off as a looney, yet here we are!
Maybe not. In a few decades, they had a phone, cars, light bulbs, radio, airplanes, and moving pictures. They had a sense of technological advancement.
@@dynhoyw Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages ship1 /SHip/ noun noun: ship; plural noun: ships a vessel larger than a boat for transporting people or goods by sea. Similar: vessel craft boat a sailing vessel with a bowsprit and three or more square-rigged masts. INFORMAL any boat, especially a racing boat. a spaceship. NORTH AMERICAN an aircraft. verb verb: ship; 3rd person present: ships; past tense: shipped; past participle: shipped; gerund or present participle: shipping 1. transport (goods or people) on a ship. "the wounded soldiers were shipped home" send by some other means of transport or by mail. "the freight would be shipped by rail" (of a product) be made available for purchase. "the cellular phone is expected to ship at about $500 sometime this summer" (of a naval force) go to sea from a home port. "Bob got sick a week before we shipped out" DATED embark on a ship. "people wishing to get from London to New York ship at Liverpool" (of a sailor) serve on a ship. "Jack, you shipped with the Admiral once, didn't you?" 2. (of a boat) take in (water) over the side. 3. take (oars) from the oarlocks and lay them inside a boat. fix (something such as a rudder or mast) in its place on a ship. Phrases a sinking ship used in various phrases to describe an organization or endeavor that is failing, usually in the context of criticizing someone for leaving it. "they have fled like rats from a sinking ship" take ship set off on a voyage by ship; embark. "finally, he took ship for Boston" that ship has sailed used in reference to an opportunity that has passed or a situation that can no longer be changed. "we're good friends but I don't think we'll ever be anything more to each other-that ship has sailed" when one's ship comes in when one's fortune is made. ship off send someone away because they are unwanted or troublesome. "Eliza is shipped off to boarding school in London" Origin Old English scip (noun), late Old English scipian (verb), of Germanic origin; related to Dutch schip and German Schiff . ship2 /SHip/ INFORMAL noun noun: ship; plural noun: ships a romantic pairing between two characters in a fictional series, often one that is supported or portrayed by fans rather than depicted in the series itself. "the thing that I loved about the Mulder/Scully ship was that we knew so much about their characters" verb verb: ship; 3rd person present: ships; past tense: shipped; past participle: shipped; gerund or present participle: shipping support or have a particular interest in a romantic pairing between two characters in a fictional series, often when this relationship is one portrayed by fans rather than depicted in the series itself. "I'm still shipping for Edward/Hermione" Origin early 21st century: abbreviation of relationship. -ship suffix suffix: -ship 1. forming nouns denoting a quality or condition. "companionship" 2. forming nouns denoting status, office, or honor. "ambassadorship" forming nouns denoting a tenure of office. "chairmanship" 3. forming nouns denoting a skill in a certain capacity. "entrepreneurship" 4. forming nouns denoting the collective individuals of a group. "membership" Origin Old English -scipe, scype, of Germanic origin.
A fascinating perspective on the role of asteroids in our existence and the potential they hold for our future. Your analysis of asteroid mining and its challenges is extremely detailed, and the concept of using this potential resource to aid our ambitions of space colonization is mind-boggling.
Thanks from the bottom of my heart, your videos are a good source of information, they are interesting and they make me feel bloody good for some reason
Getting stuff up to space is one of the main issues. Solving that thing is the very first step in our journey to conquer space. We came up with some pretty decent ideas already, fe a space catapult here and around the Moon with a moon base. That way our journeys in our solar system could be so much easier.
Thanks for specifying "non-avian" dinosaurs. Whenever I hear someone saying "the extinction of the dinosaurs" without such a specification I have an uncontrollable urge to shout "they're not all extinct!!"
The worth is only because of scarcity. If gold was as common as rust its value would plummet. The only exception is diamonds which are as common as dirt, but clever marketing has kept them expensive.
That book The Sparrow by Mary Doris Russell (a fucking AMAZING speculative fiction, one of my favorites) introduced me to the idea of using asteroids for space travel by creating a livable space on the asteroid and burning the fuel contained within. So the asteroid is the ship as well as the fuel. I think that’s an amazing concept!
they say water on Earth came from asteroids, so perhaps they're looking for a fresh source of water to meet their requirements.. You know, after they scorch the Earth or let loose a super big of some sort...
3:24 So... eastern europe, about in 1996 - a nice summer morning, suddenly you wake with a pulse of fear.. "WOW! I was so close to oversleeping..." its 5 AM and this time you're going with grandpa and grandma to the corn fields to "whack the weeds" as you might say, and maintain the field. It's a backbreaking manual labor!(well at least for them it was...) We get to the field early and prep for a light breakfast, granny woke up early to prepare it all. As I'm gorging on my granny's milinki with a side of apricot nectar(both homemade...) I notice other people around us enjoying breakfast as well. Then every group(bout 20 or 30 depending on the day, basically almost the whole village) gradually begins to work their land. We call this land "bostan" and every village had one. Every couple of years they move it in order to keep the soil more rich and not deplete the nutrients with continuous strain through growing the same culture there(they rotated mixed bostans with single culture ones). I was a kid back then, no more than 10 years old, but believe me when i tell you.. best.. damn.. time!!!
The title of this episode, at the time of posting this comment: "Billionaires are secretly directing asteroids to earth and we don't know why". I love your channel, and I love your content. This isn't the first time that I've found a title of yours to be willfully misleading sensationalist clickbait, however... You have brilliantly produced episodes, and although the algorithm can be a total b*tch, I honestly feel that these tactics are (way) beneath you. Anyway, I enjoyed the episode (yes, I'm calling it an episode, since it's more than just a video clip) immensely.
How has this video got anything to do with the current title: ‘Billionaires are Secretly Bringing Asteroids to Earth and We Don’t Know Why’? I have seen and enjoyed a lot of your videos but this is just clickbait. Sorry.
Haven't seen the full vid yet, but it isn't false advertising...they are doing this in order to be able to make it more economical, logistically feasible to have the ability to go 'up there' & mine them. It WILL be a trillion dollar industry. No 2 ways about it. It will be done. Has been done, albeit on a exponentially smaller scale than what is planned
Key advantage of orbital processing and asteroid mining is this: you don't care about pollution, radiation or anything of the sort. And the minerals, metals and materials produced are in orbit, ready to be used manufacturing ships that won't need fuel to leave earth's surface.
Why can't we just Anchor a lazer/ solar sail with a Lazer in the Anchor to push sail. And then crash them into the moon and mine and prosscess them there. Or put a second rear solar sail on them use the sun's solar wind to slow them down and brake them in orbit then breakdown bigger ones into smaller pieces in orbit and parachute them down over ocean. Though landing them on the moon at mining factory would be easier.
You missed the point. The precious metals wouldn't be for wearing. They would have vast usage in commercial products. The fact that a large sum starts to arrive would have the benefit of reducing the costs of electronics.
I've heard that space elevators were going to be a thing in the near future, I can't even get my head around that how would that even work? I'm going to have to Google that lmao I love your channel, you bring up the most interesting topics❤
Once a resource is available in large amounts, the value plummets. The monetary value of asteroids is only high because we do not mine them. Once we mine asteroids on an industrial scale, the monetary value falls significantly. As it is the accumulation of monetary wealth is only current reason for investment in asteroid mining, any industrial scale mining would immediately negate the chance of a profit. Examples are already here on Earth. There are so many diamonds available for mining, their value would drop below that of iron. As a result, the value only stays high because companies which mine diamonds keep their activities to a minimum.
I've got to ask: who does the animation for these because the comic edge is brilliant. Bottles of water on asteroids delivers an A+ from this viewer. 😅👍👍
many people say we (current generations) kinda missed the mark, we were born too late for the exploration of Earth, but born too early for the(effective) exploration and colonization of space.
Before we run out of rare metals, either we need to figure out how to reuse them or make everything out of carbon chains. We waste energy and minerals at an alarming rate.
Yes, you can imagine just how much recyclable materials must be lurking in every city/town dump. I scavenge through the occasion flytip, whenever someone is thoughtless enough to dump a washing machine or fridge near me. I've picked up buckets of copper, brass and stainless steel this way - because other people are generally too stupid to realise that such household waste is still worth money. But think of the other things, the hi-tech stuff, thrown away into grey bins or flung out of car windows, because people can't be bothered to drive to the recycling banks.
Well, I know someone who have been into asteroid mining. It was not easy, but he (with the team) they did land (remote controlled robotics) and mine a bit.
Kind of. Magma, what lava is called before it reaches the surface, is molten rock with dissolved metals and minerals in it. The trouble is that even when molten or dissolved, heavier elements still "settle" out. so while the magma is rising, it deposits the heavier minerals and elements and the erupting lava is mostly just silicates. This is why we have to dig for the metals and where we dig is usually the location of ancient volcanic action.
While I love the forward thinking idea of colonizing other worlds and mining in space. These plans should continue at a very low priority. The mining on our planet has improved. Always more room for that to continue. While the materials used in batteries and other tech are always changing too. At the risk of the beating of a dead equine. I hear these plans and love the ideas but under the circumstances we are way too fast at throwing money, public or private. While not working on the broken health care issues and abused programs that we see increasing. This leaves people out of luck that really need and deserve help. Just a tip of example.There is a bubble with this. That being said. The far off day of colonizing another planet anytime in the somewhat near future could be tantamount to moving from Cleveland to Detroit.
Here's one way the human cost can be removed almost entirely, aside from any actual trained astronauts needed for certain roles. Have mining drones do the majority of the work of the extraction and transportation to a mothership designed to refine and manufacture on site. The pilots of the drones are stationed on earth, using a specialized network to reduce latency times down to acceptable enough levels to do the job. The only requirements to operate would be a controller and laptop capable of playing the feed sent to the screen. This would make it so that basically anyone can make money operating the drones as they see fit and/or are capable of operating. So if you can operate 12 drones on your own successfully, then you are free to do so, with some limitations put in place for fairness. This makes it so that the only human cost is the astronauts put in space to do the tasks that require the human touch out in space. Anything that can be automated via robotics is. Of course this all still costs a lot of money too, but comparatively it should be less than trying to house thousands if not possibly millions of humans in space. And the materials for the drones could be harvested on-site as well or nearby to manufacture more when needed due to malfunction/destruction via accidents. (Which is once again another saving grace of using remote operation. Less human cost once again.) It would probably ideally be used best in conjunction with parking said asteroid in the moons orbit, but I have some issues with that in regards to possible sudden rouge asteroids near earth. Still, that would probably be the best scenario for this use case, since it would allow for the network to be as short as distance as the moon, which should make connections 'possible', though maybe not preferable in speed/latency. But again, so long as the pilot can operate without issue, it should be fine until better technology reduces that problem. AI could also be used in the drones to automate them, but this may be one of those things where the human touch is still preferred for safety reasons in case of AI malfunction. Thus the remote operators would still be employed as a fail safe at the very least. This would essentially create a ... near infinite... job market, where the company ultimately profits more the more they can diversify their asteroid holdings for constant extraction. Obviously supply and demand must be obeyed, but ultimately so long as the demand eats the supply fast enough, most of this problem will be averted on its own. I.E. The mothership using its own collected materials to make more drones to collect more materials. The excess of this is what is sold instead as an artificial cap and trade system of sorts, where the main function of the operation is to keep the operation in continuation with excess going towards saleable product for proceeds to allow continued funding of the operation. If one is exceeding the other, rebalance and continue forward. And as for continuing forward: Eventually deep space mining ships will be required, where crew will be stationed as well even if they continue remote operation from the ship. At that point nodes would be set up along the way to allow for earth based miners to continue operation as well, but with added latency per node hop. These ventures would likely be solely sent only for the rarest materials that we just can't find elsewhere. So they would be quite rare operations.
Why not push a NEO into the moon, and then mine the crash site on the moon? The impact should help crack them open, and the moon should also have enough gravity to build drills on. It seems way more practical than anything else. It would still be a massive undertaking, but it’s a lot more doable.
I mean, billions of dollars of gold in a single rock is pretty tempting to most people if you told them "All you have to do is sign here and wait and we will bring it to you" and know you'll get your money back if they dont.
I think mining on the moon is our best likely target due to proximity and stability. We have already demonstrated the ability to get there and return. The challenge of developing extraction technology in that environment seems much more feasible. I think the biggest challenge however is going to be delivery to earth in any significant quantities within a margin of safety
I thought (due to isotope analysis) that it was discovered several years ago that the water on earth did NOT originate from an extraterrestrial source according to all of the meteors / comets we’ve studied
Hopefully relatively soon we will be able to transform things from the atomic level or thereabouts and stretch out our resources to seemingly unlimited supply. Like- Hey Siri, build me a castle- Drones and robots come in and turn dirt into an amazing castle. Think of how we can expand all the materials of entire cities. All of that concrete, steel, glass, etc. generative design, stronger structures than we can imagine, new materials, cities on top of cities, underground and in the air, on water. Then we harvest the power of the sun, then other stars, the galaxy, other galaxies. The future will be amazing!
Would never be allowed for the average person people would abuse tf out of it. People turning sand into cocaine and meth is what would actually happen..
A drill can be mounted to the surface it's drilling. A 4 year round trip isn't bad for a 27 quintillion dollar payday. This video has actually convinced me of the feasibility of asteroid mining.
@@d4e_gaming838 I get that, but it wouldn't be a single round trip. The way I think of it (in very broad strokes, of course) is, build the space drill, habitat, and cargo fleet before ever leaving the planet. The fleet would run on a rotation, and the mining facility would be semipermanent. Even a fraction of a $27 quintillion payday could make it worth it. "You have to spend money to make money" isn't as cliché as it is because it's false. All it takes is one eccentric billionaire to plan it right and it's on.
@@gunslingersymphony5015 that Is very ambitious, I want to work for SpaceX, ( already getting bad offers from them still going to take it though and work my way up 😂) and then depending on how the world is in a few years I'm going to go for something like that with the space drill habitat, although it's highly unlikely due to how much money it cost, "one billionaire" won't have nearly enough money and connections to make the amount of money necessary to even think about making that . but if the reusable rockets that Elon Musk is making goes in the right direction for the next few years of testing than it's a step in the right direction for the cost side of it. but even than it still need a lot more than that, it would need full support from the government which is a hard thing to get. basically everything would have to be perfect to even begin thinking about it
I clicked immediately, because I know thoughty2 doesn't lie in his titles. Now I'll continue watching, I just wanted to express this before watching the video.
11:05 yeah.. hyperkinesys is enough, nah you dont pull the asteroid towards the planet, you push the vassle towards the asteroid. using the power of the *MIND*
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What if we crash a small asteroid into the Moon? We could simply pick up the rubble, transport it back to earth, and distribute it among humanity evenly (or make a few billionaires into quadrillionaires...).
More precious and in greater demand than gold and platinum is black gold for Earthers, and water for the spacers. There is no immediate need for those precious metals (from asteroids), but they can be used to buy (barter) water (and many other things like spaceships, equipment, and habitats) to make rocket fuel and oxygen that's much more immediately precious than those metals for their miners. Miners closer to Earth would buy things from Earth to sell/barter for gold from those miners to sell back on Earth. That is how precious metals will find their way to Earth. A lot of dependencies needs to happen. And survive economically.
“The obvious risks” That was my major problem with the plot in Apple+ For All Mankind. I can’t believe they never even touched the “risks” of bringing the asteroid to earth in the story. Especially considering their previous attempt failed!
Maybe if we all get along, and get bored been peaceful, the money left over,due to peace, with collective minds work to ward mine in space. That will give things,to look forward, and sense of suspense . Don’t you think?😊
What about a massive net connected to multiple units with thrusters, the net initially becomes slack on contact but applies counter resistance slowly to slow down the inertia.. thrusters apply thrust in opposing direction based of trajectory impact into the net. Bring the rock to the nearest unit for mining.. Secondary note: Massive net is already going at speeds comparable to the expected speed of asteroid, this way the difference in speed is very minuscule and thus easier to mitigate the impact difference Also this brings in to mind, aliens would never need to harvest our planet if our most valuable resources are plenty more abundant in asteroids…
Would it not be worth just getting to Davida to be the first there and claim it? The deed would be worth a lot of money and value increase as the technology to realize profit grows. Could possibly be worth several billion now and in 30 years be worth trillions. As resources on Earth become more rare through use and transformation the ownership of Davida becomes more exclusive.
Here is the problem, as soon a commodity volume blows up, price drops “like a rock” . So you’re not going to have a 4quntillion dollar worth of asteroid. You’re just gona have very very affordable commodities after mining
It's so common to think in terms of dollars for monetary value of things like resources. EVERYBODY FORGETS THAT IT'S JUST ROCKS. Without the capacity to turn those rocks into useful things they're worthless.
The real problem is not the cost of mining the asteroid, it's the infrastructure to get there. Most of the technologies exist, just have to be adapted. We just don't have the luxury of using things like gravity, which many of our refinement processes on earth use. Mines on earth wouldn't be built either, if the entirety of the process - from the trucks, to the drills, to all the way back to major cities, and the power - had to be built by the company, before a single dollar can be extracted. And that is made all the worse due to vacuum and radiation. So we'd need what we need here on earth. Governments (or at least a third party) needs to build the primary infrastructure and vehicles, and then other companies would just lease those and go off to do the mining with far more manageable expenses. But that's a chicken and egg problem.
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I thought it was 65 Million years ago, like the Jurassic Park movie says, get the story straight.
@@chickenwings6172 jurassic park also thinks a t. rex can’t see you if you stand still
Don't look up! 😂
sup Thoughty :))
i like your style bud. haven't subscribed yet but maybe one day. non the less, when i get a Thoughty vid pop up in my feed. im like "hell yeah. ok yeah now i got something better to watch" lol.. so cheers to your brother.
Thanks for making these informative videos. I've learned a lot from your channel in the last 2-3 years.
When I was a child I was taught in school that the great impact was 65 million years ago. Now it's 66 million.
Time goes by so fast!
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I think it’s more that older methods calculated that it happened around 65.5 million years ago and most people rounded down, but more modern dating methods have given us a date of 66.038 million years ago, plus or minus 11,000 years
Wow almost like technology changes every year never would of thought!
@@DIRTYPLACCY was the swoosh loud when OPs comment went over your head? 🤦
For many years ive watched your videos. Im sure i speak for all the viewers here when i say, Thank you for your wonferful work!! Very insightful, thought provoking and filled with intersting facts. Look forward to the next instalment!!
Watched the entire video, title is clickbait. No mention of billionaires secretly directing asteroids to earth and we not knowing why... good video maybe, but the title is bullshit.
I absolutly love this channel, i would support it if I could, Im a 70 yo pensioner.
Have followed for a long time.
Oh that I could be alive in the 21st century,
The things you people will see
I envy you so much.
Live long and prosper.
You CAN be alive in the 21st century. You ARE alive, unless you're dead, whiI seriously doubt, since I've never seen a dead person comment on TH-cam. We're almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century.
@@krietor Greg is clearly brain dead.
So glad you promoted Star Trek Fleet Command. My friend is heavily into Star Trek. So much so that he has 3 ears. A right ear, a left ear and a final front ear
"Turns out that smug metal bastard was lying to us." Much like chat gpt you have to ask if they are sure 😅
Of all the sci fi movies over the years that have predicted the future, who would've thought that Armageddon would be potentially the most accurate.
Or Don't Look Up!
Right😅😂 loved that movie tho 🥲
Alien is far closer, minus the alien shit
Ah yes, it's much easier to train oil drillers to work in space than it is to teach an astronaut to use a drill.
@@dyent 😂
But, I need my own guys if you want me to do this for you. Astronauts don't know jack about drilling!
I've heard of that guy Aster Roids before. I'm more intimately familiar with his sister Hemma though
Yes, I hear she's really into butt stuff
Someone give this man a handshake. This is gold
I've heard of guy Ste Roids.
lol i just got it
Hemma Roids is a pain in the ass!
A good way to do this, would be small bots, even nano bots. They land on the asteroid and make larger bots and so on. Then they jettison the stuff back to us. Maybe the main craft that drops them is a huge solar cell to start. If they ever get pure electrical propulsion down they can slow and stear them maybe. Park them nearer. Or 6-8 crafts park and lock on an object and slow it and bring it closer.
For a recent discovery in electrical propulsion see the Popular Mechanics article titled "An Engineer Says He’s Found a Way to Overcome Earth’s Gravity"
“Mine it at our leisure” is something no miner or astronaut has ever said 😅
I'm pretty sure dwarfs love it.
Yet
"Im king Charles, look at my drip"....😂 That freaking Charles is at it again.
Seeing as how the moon has millions of asteroids laying around a moon base would be the most logical starting point. don't even have to chase them. could be entire gold boulders there. Eventually the materials for space travel will need to be mined in space and processed on the moon anyways. No atmosphere to cause problems.
Just be sure not to send nuclear waste there!
The problem is space treaties surrounding the moon. Officially, no country is allowed to "claim" any parts of the moon, and the legal question is completely up in the air whether or not private companies can touch the moon let alone mine resources from it.
If we have made it to the moon..... There would be a Walmart, McDonald's, and a golf course there 😂.
@@mateothomas7071you mean if private enterprise got there. Unfortunately the government got there, so they focus on the impractical and are massively wasteful while doing it.
@@musicloverme3993 It worked for Walter Matthau . . .
The really limited resource is habitable space. That Davida asteroide contains enough material for several Earth surface equivalents of O'Neil cylinders.
Many of these resources are only valuable because they are scarce. If we suddenly gained a huge supply of gold we wouldn’t suddenly be rich. Gold would just lose all of its value.
Population and in the scenario placed forth in the video 2 worlds would be using it as a currency basis not to mention the asteroid mining fields so to speak themselves using it as a currency backing our outright. It seems to me that is one of the major pushes behind everyone who can rushing to space.
NOT all. It's still be useful in a number of techs.
@@gillescoin2374 ok, correction, most of its value
@@gillescoin2374 A new race of Android shells for our sentient A.I brothers and sisters, I like your mindset! Serious nt joking
gold being shiny and only useful as a conductor and a few other things; it was decided to use it as a trust standard. Now we have nothing but promises. Empty promises.
Well, if I went back in time to my grandmother’s day back in 1918 and told her everyone in the future has a device that can communicate with anyone in the world and also gave access to almost all the information and research in human history, and it’s no bigger than a wallet, she’d laugh me off as a looney, yet here we are!
Maybe not. In a few decades, they had a phone, cars, light bulbs, radio, airplanes, and moving pictures. They had a sense of technological advancement.
She'd probably write the local asylum and have you locked up within a fort night
Magic
A space construction yard for ships would be start.
please define "ships"
@@dynhoyw
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages
ship1
/SHip/
noun
noun: ship; plural noun: ships
a vessel larger than a boat for transporting people or goods by sea.
Similar:
vessel
craft
boat
a sailing vessel with a bowsprit and three or more square-rigged masts.
INFORMAL
any boat, especially a racing boat.
a spaceship.
NORTH AMERICAN
an aircraft.
verb
verb: ship; 3rd person present: ships; past tense: shipped; past participle: shipped; gerund or present participle: shipping
1.
transport (goods or people) on a ship.
"the wounded soldiers were shipped home"
send by some other means of transport or by mail.
"the freight would be shipped by rail"
(of a product) be made available for purchase.
"the cellular phone is expected to ship at about $500 sometime this summer"
(of a naval force) go to sea from a home port.
"Bob got sick a week before we shipped out"
DATED
embark on a ship.
"people wishing to get from London to New York ship at Liverpool"
(of a sailor) serve on a ship.
"Jack, you shipped with the Admiral once, didn't you?"
2.
(of a boat) take in (water) over the side.
3.
take (oars) from the oarlocks and lay them inside a boat.
fix (something such as a rudder or mast) in its place on a ship.
Phrases
a sinking ship
used in various phrases to describe an organization or endeavor that is failing, usually in the context of criticizing someone for leaving it. "they have fled like rats from a sinking ship"
take ship
set off on a voyage by ship; embark. "finally, he took ship for Boston"
that ship has sailed
used in reference to an opportunity that has passed or a situation that can no longer be changed. "we're good friends but I don't think we'll ever be anything more to each other-that ship has sailed"
when one's ship comes in
when one's fortune is made.
ship off
send someone away because they are unwanted or troublesome. "Eliza is shipped off to boarding school in London"
Origin
Old English scip (noun), late Old English scipian (verb), of Germanic origin; related to Dutch schip and German Schiff .
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/SHip/
INFORMAL
noun
noun: ship; plural noun: ships
a romantic pairing between two characters in a fictional series, often one that is supported or portrayed by fans rather than depicted in the series itself.
"the thing that I loved about the Mulder/Scully ship was that we knew so much about their characters"
verb
verb: ship; 3rd person present: ships; past tense: shipped; past participle: shipped; gerund or present participle: shipping
support or have a particular interest in a romantic pairing between two characters in a fictional series, often when this relationship is one portrayed by fans rather than depicted in the series itself.
"I'm still shipping for Edward/Hermione"
Origin
early 21st century: abbreviation of relationship.
-ship
suffix
suffix: -ship
1.
forming nouns denoting a quality or condition.
"companionship"
2.
forming nouns denoting status, office, or honor.
"ambassadorship"
forming nouns denoting a tenure of office.
"chairmanship"
3.
forming nouns denoting a skill in a certain capacity.
"entrepreneurship"
4.
forming nouns denoting the collective individuals of a group.
"membership"
Origin
Old English -scipe, scype, of Germanic origin.
Where do Shipbreakers sign up?
Then we will have space pirates.
@@dynhoyw A ship is a vessel.
A fascinating perspective on the role of asteroids in our existence and the potential they hold for our future. Your analysis of asteroid mining and its challenges is extremely detailed, and the concept of using this potential resource to aid our ambitions of space colonization is mind-boggling.
It’s sad that everything related to tech is now directly related to greed
Greed has driven tech from day one. Without the ability to make a profit, most people wouldn't make an attempt
"Money doesn't talk, it swears." Bob Dylan - 'It's All Right, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
One of the best lines from one of his best songs. 🩸
Sadly, there are not enough expletives to describe the obscenity, which is money
@@Guy-z6o money is the god of this world
Thanks from the bottom of my heart, your videos are a good source of information, they are interesting and they make me feel bloody good for some reason
a lot is wrong.. do some digging..
Getting stuff up to space is one of the main issues. Solving that thing is the very first step in our journey to conquer space. We came up with some pretty decent ideas already, fe a space catapult here and around the Moon with a moon base. That way our journeys in our solar system could be so much easier.
been watching Arran for years and bro really don’t miss
edit: King Charles type beat goes hard
Except for the title of the video. It's pretty clickbaity.
Ice will likely be the first thing mined. H + O for rocket fuel. Water to drink and O2 to breath.
Thoughty2, have you ever thought about covering the insane forming of the banana republics in South America
He doesn't do politics......
@@PrairieWolff it’s not that kind of republic, it’s just the name of the big banana industries
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@@GarrettB06
Sure, sure, 😀
@@PrairieWolff I mean it is… you can look it up if you don’t believe me..?
Thanks for recognizing mushroom eaters as being ahead of the curve on asteroid mining. Interestingly, the mushrooms show no attraction to Mars at all.
Thanks for specifying "non-avian" dinosaurs. Whenever I hear someone saying "the extinction of the dinosaurs" without such a specification I have an uncontrollable urge to shout "they're not all extinct!!"
The worth is only because of scarcity. If gold was as common as rust its value would plummet. The only exception is diamonds which are as common as dirt, but clever marketing has kept them expensive.
Really enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing.
That book The Sparrow by Mary Doris Russell (a fucking AMAZING speculative fiction, one of my favorites) introduced me to the idea of using asteroids for space travel by creating a livable space on the asteroid and burning the fuel contained within. So the asteroid is the ship as well as the fuel. I think that’s an amazing concept!
It is an amazing concept but getting poked by aliens in the nethers makes it a bit of a risk to the bum.
Imagine going to eat and sending an astroid into another country.. only for it to touchdown and be made completely of unrainium and plutonium 😳
they say water on Earth came from asteroids, so perhaps they're looking for a fresh source of water to meet their requirements.. You know, after they scorch the Earth or let loose a super big of some sort...
"I'm king Charles, look at my drip" 😅
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3:24 So... eastern europe, about in 1996 - a nice summer morning, suddenly you wake with a pulse of fear.. "WOW! I was so close to oversleeping..." its 5 AM and this time you're going with grandpa and grandma to the corn fields to "whack the weeds" as you might say, and maintain the field. It's a backbreaking manual labor!(well at least for them it was...) We get to the field early and prep for a light breakfast, granny woke up early to prepare it all. As I'm gorging on my granny's milinki with a side of apricot nectar(both homemade...) I notice other people around us enjoying breakfast as well. Then every group(bout 20 or 30 depending on the day, basically almost the whole village) gradually begins to work their land. We call this land "bostan" and every village had one. Every couple of years they move it in order to keep the soil more rich and not deplete the nutrients with continuous strain through growing the same culture there(they rotated mixed bostans with single culture ones). I was a kid back then, no more than 10 years old, but believe me when i tell you.. best.. damn.. time!!!
The title of this episode, at the time of posting this comment: "Billionaires are secretly directing asteroids to earth and we don't know why". I love your channel, and I love your content. This isn't the first time that I've found a title of yours to be willfully misleading sensationalist clickbait, however... You have brilliantly produced episodes, and although the algorithm can be a total b*tch, I honestly feel that these tactics are (way) beneath you. Anyway, I enjoyed the episode (yes, I'm calling it an episode, since it's more than just a video clip) immensely.
How much you wanna bet that when asteroid mining starts happening somebody's gonna fuck up and crash one of these big bastards right into terra firma?
How has this video got anything to do with the current title: ‘Billionaires are Secretly Bringing Asteroids to Earth and We Don’t Know Why’? I have seen and enjoyed a lot of your videos but this is just clickbait. Sorry.
Well you did take the bait....sooo
I'll agree . Click bait
They did try and brought samples back. Its a start .
Has to be an attempt at calling dibs on mining.
Haven't seen the full vid yet, but it isn't false advertising...they are doing this in order to be able to make it more economical, logistically feasible to have the ability to go 'up there' & mine them.
It WILL be a trillion dollar industry. No 2 ways about it. It will be done. Has been done, albeit on a exponentially smaller scale than what is planned
@11:35 I was so ready for a calculation breakdown of which kinds of cheese would be profitable.
"Humans are complex creatures." Subjective and debatable
I counter that opinion with two words, 'Social Media'. Another drain on resources.
The nature of humans is complex. Social media doesn't change this. It only makes people think it does.
Key advantage of orbital processing and asteroid mining is this: you don't care about pollution, radiation or anything of the sort. And the minerals, metals and materials produced are in orbit, ready to be used manufacturing ships that won't need fuel to leave earth's surface.
⚠ What's with the click bait-y title??
Because they work. obviously, you have never seen a veritasium video.
Tod Howard: It just works!
Why can't we just Anchor a lazer/ solar sail with a Lazer in the Anchor to push sail. And then crash them into the moon and mine and prosscess them there. Or put a second rear solar sail on them use the sun's solar wind to slow them down and brake them in orbit then breakdown bigger ones into smaller pieces in orbit and parachute them down over ocean. Though landing them on the moon at mining factory would be easier.
Here before the assbots!!!😂😂😂😂
lol
nah sadly at the same time.
You missed the point. The precious metals wouldn't be for wearing. They would have vast usage in commercial products. The fact that a large sum starts to arrive would have the benefit of reducing the costs of electronics.
Click bate ,bad title
I agree
Great episode as always!¡ Thanks very much!!
Amazing how some of us think of these "solutions" instead of first controlling ourselves here on the planet we inhabit.
I've heard that space elevators were going to be a thing in the near future, I can't even get my head around that how would that even work? I'm going to have to Google that lmao
I love your channel, you bring up the most interesting topics❤
Hollywood warned us about this on Don't Look Up
Once a resource is available in large amounts, the value plummets. The monetary value of asteroids is only high because we do not mine them. Once we mine asteroids on an industrial scale, the monetary value falls significantly. As it is the accumulation of monetary wealth is only current reason for investment in asteroid mining, any industrial scale mining would immediately negate the chance of a profit. Examples are already here on Earth. There are so many diamonds available for mining, their value would drop below that of iron. As a result, the value only stays high because companies which mine diamonds keep their activities to a minimum.
This reminds me of the book, "The Singularity Trap". It's a decent read that focuses on a guy who picks up astroid mining.
Probably still the best channel on TH-cam.
Thanks for the refreshing stories you provide. Very interesting and entertaining.
love for thoughty2 is massive
I've got to ask: who does the animation for these because the comic edge is brilliant. Bottles of water on asteroids delivers an A+ from this viewer. 😅👍👍
Science fiction has truly captured most minds...
What are you going to do with the gold when there is no drinking water etc?
I just love your humor!!!! Thanks for doing what you do.
Why?
many people say we (current generations) kinda missed the mark, we were born too late for the exploration of Earth, but born too early for the(effective) exploration and colonization of space.
Before we run out of rare metals, either we need to figure out how to reuse them or make everything out of carbon chains. We waste energy and minerals at an alarming rate.
Yes, you can imagine just how much recyclable materials must be lurking in every city/town dump.
I scavenge through the occasion flytip, whenever someone is thoughtless enough to dump a washing machine or fridge near me. I've picked up buckets of copper, brass and stainless steel this way - because other people are generally too stupid to realise that such household waste is still worth money.
But think of the other things, the hi-tech stuff, thrown away into grey bins or flung out of car windows, because people can't be bothered to drive to the recycling banks.
But nah that's just a liberal hoax meant to scare us into accepting socialism
The last part of the video basically described the setting of The Expanse.
Well, I know someone who have been into asteroid mining. It was not easy, but he (with the team) they did land (remote controlled robotics) and mine a bit.
Why have we not yet gotten a Collab between thoughty2 and Simon Whistler. The battle of the useless facts
If the metals are pulled into the Earths core then wouldn't Lava contain large amounts of these elements?
Kind of. Magma, what lava is called before it reaches the surface, is molten rock with dissolved metals and minerals in it. The trouble is that even when molten or dissolved, heavier elements still "settle" out. so while the magma is rising, it deposits the heavier minerals and elements and the erupting lava is mostly just silicates. This is why we have to dig for the metals and where we dig is usually the location of ancient volcanic action.
While I love the forward thinking idea of colonizing other worlds and mining in space. These plans should continue at a very low priority. The mining on our planet has improved. Always more room for that to continue. While the materials used in batteries and other tech are always changing too. At the risk of the beating of a dead equine. I hear these plans and love the ideas but under the circumstances we are way too fast at throwing money, public or private. While not working on the broken health care issues and abused programs that we see increasing. This leaves people out of luck that really need and deserve help. Just a tip of example.There is a bubble with this. That being said. The far off day of colonizing another planet anytime in the somewhat near future could be tantamount to moving from Cleveland to Detroit.
Ok,. Now I think I've seen this somewhere... The USG Ishimura!!! If not asteroid mining, it's Planet Cracking. Oh the possibilities!?
Here's one way the human cost can be removed almost entirely, aside from any actual trained astronauts needed for certain roles.
Have mining drones do the majority of the work of the extraction and transportation to a mothership designed to refine and manufacture on site. The pilots of the drones are stationed on earth, using a specialized network to reduce latency times down to acceptable enough levels to do the job. The only requirements to operate would be a controller and laptop capable of playing the feed sent to the screen. This would make it so that basically anyone can make money operating the drones as they see fit and/or are capable of operating. So if you can operate 12 drones on your own successfully, then you are free to do so, with some limitations put in place for fairness.
This makes it so that the only human cost is the astronauts put in space to do the tasks that require the human touch out in space. Anything that can be automated via robotics is. Of course this all still costs a lot of money too, but comparatively it should be less than trying to house thousands if not possibly millions of humans in space. And the materials for the drones could be harvested on-site as well or nearby to manufacture more when needed due to malfunction/destruction via accidents. (Which is once again another saving grace of using remote operation. Less human cost once again.)
It would probably ideally be used best in conjunction with parking said asteroid in the moons orbit, but I have some issues with that in regards to possible sudden rouge asteroids near earth. Still, that would probably be the best scenario for this use case, since it would allow for the network to be as short as distance as the moon, which should make connections 'possible', though maybe not preferable in speed/latency. But again, so long as the pilot can operate without issue, it should be fine until better technology reduces that problem.
AI could also be used in the drones to automate them, but this may be one of those things where the human touch is still preferred for safety reasons in case of AI malfunction. Thus the remote operators would still be employed as a fail safe at the very least.
This would essentially create a ... near infinite... job market, where the company ultimately profits more the more they can diversify their asteroid holdings for constant extraction. Obviously supply and demand must be obeyed, but ultimately so long as the demand eats the supply fast enough, most of this problem will be averted on its own. I.E. The mothership using its own collected materials to make more drones to collect more materials. The excess of this is what is sold instead as an artificial cap and trade system of sorts, where the main function of the operation is to keep the operation in continuation with excess going towards saleable product for proceeds to allow continued funding of the operation. If one is exceeding the other, rebalance and continue forward.
And as for continuing forward: Eventually deep space mining ships will be required, where crew will be stationed as well even if they continue remote operation from the ship. At that point nodes would be set up along the way to allow for earth based miners to continue operation as well, but with added latency per node hop. These ventures would likely be solely sent only for the rarest materials that we just can't find elsewhere. So they would be quite rare operations.
Why not push a NEO into the moon, and then mine the crash site on the moon? The impact should help crack them open, and the moon should also have enough gravity to build drills on. It seems way more practical than anything else. It would still be a massive undertaking, but it’s a lot more doable.
I mean, billions of dollars of gold in a single rock is pretty tempting to most people if you told them "All you have to do is sign here and wait and we will bring it to you" and know you'll get your money back if they dont.
Our entire colony, the size of a petri dish, coming in hot!
I think mining on the moon is our best likely target due to proximity and stability. We have already demonstrated the ability to get there and return. The challenge of developing extraction technology in that environment seems much more feasible. I think the biggest challenge however is going to be delivery to earth in any significant quantities within a margin of safety
I thought (due to isotope analysis) that it was discovered several years ago that the water on earth did NOT originate from an extraterrestrial source according to all of the meteors / comets we’ve studied
Hopefully relatively soon we will be able to transform things from the atomic level or thereabouts and stretch out our resources to seemingly unlimited supply.
Like- Hey Siri, build me a castle- Drones and robots come in and turn dirt into an amazing castle.
Think of how we can expand all the materials of entire cities. All of that concrete, steel, glass, etc. generative design, stronger structures than we can imagine, new materials, cities on top of cities, underground and in the air, on water.
Then we harvest the power of the sun, then other stars, the galaxy, other galaxies.
The future will be amazing!
Would never be allowed for the average person people would abuse tf out of it. People turning sand into cocaine and meth is what would actually happen..
A drill can be mounted to the surface it's drilling. A 4 year round trip isn't bad for a 27 quintillion dollar payday. This video has actually convinced me of the feasibility of asteroid mining.
weight and capacity. we would never get 27 quintillion$ from one mining trip, we would more than likely make 0 profit and actually lose money.
@@d4e_gaming838 I get that, but it wouldn't be a single round trip. The way I think of it (in very broad strokes, of course) is, build the space drill, habitat, and cargo fleet before ever leaving the planet. The fleet would run on a rotation, and the mining facility would be semipermanent. Even a fraction of a $27 quintillion payday could make it worth it. "You have to spend money to make money" isn't as cliché as it is because it's false. All it takes is one eccentric billionaire to plan it right and it's on.
@@gunslingersymphony5015 that Is very ambitious, I want to work for SpaceX, ( already getting bad offers from them still going to take it though and work my way up 😂) and then depending on how the world is in a few years I'm going to go for something like that with the space drill habitat, although it's highly unlikely due to how much money it cost, "one billionaire" won't have nearly enough money and connections to make the amount of money necessary to even think about making that . but if the reusable rockets that Elon Musk is making goes in the right direction for the next few years of testing than it's a step in the right direction for the cost side of it. but even than it still need a lot more than that, it would need full support from the government which is a hard thing to get. basically everything would have to be perfect to even begin thinking about it
I clicked immediately, because I know thoughty2 doesn't lie in his titles. Now I'll continue watching, I just wanted to express this before watching the video.
I came here for " RAID SHADOW LEGENDS"
11:05 yeah.. hyperkinesys is enough, nah you dont pull the asteroid towards the planet, you push the vassle towards the asteroid. using the power of the *MIND*
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What if we crash a small asteroid into the Moon? We could simply pick up the rubble, transport it back to earth, and distribute it among humanity evenly (or make a few billionaires into quadrillionaires...).
"What the asteroids have ever done for us" Loving the Monty Python reference
More precious and in greater demand than gold and platinum is black gold for Earthers, and water for the spacers. There is no immediate need for those precious metals (from asteroids), but they can be used to buy (barter) water (and many other things like spaceships, equipment, and habitats) to make rocket fuel and oxygen that's much more immediately precious than those metals for their miners. Miners closer to Earth would buy things from Earth to sell/barter for gold from those miners to sell back on Earth. That is how precious metals will find their way to Earth. A lot of dependencies needs to happen. And survive economically.
“The obvious risks”
That was my major problem with the plot in Apple+ For All Mankind. I can’t believe they never even touched the “risks” of bringing the asteroid to earth in the story. Especially considering their previous attempt failed!
Redirecting an icesriod at Mars sounds a bit more profitable in the long-term to me, but there's evidence of water already being present.
Yet another fascinating video Mr Lomas!
Also, you will need people to work in those mines. It would definitely be a struggle to find people that are capable of doing that
Are you asleep? Are don't know what's happing today with Robots?
To mine it of course
Maybe if we all get along, and get bored been peaceful, the money left over,due to peace, with collective minds work to ward mine in space.
That will give things,to look forward, and sense of suspense . Don’t you think?😊
Why would you put all the money into mining asteroids seems like there's the same amount in our oceans
"I'm KING 🤴 Charles Look at my drip'' Lol
Great episode, very informative and captivating!
honestly space exploration is a real hope for humanity... that or back to the stone age the way its going these days
What about a massive net connected to multiple units with thrusters, the net initially becomes slack on contact but applies counter resistance slowly to slow down the inertia.. thrusters apply thrust in opposing direction based of trajectory impact into the net.
Bring the rock to the nearest unit for mining..
Secondary note:
Massive net is already going at speeds comparable to the expected speed of asteroid, this way the difference in speed is very minuscule and thus easier to mitigate the impact difference
Also this brings in to mind, aliens would never need to harvest our planet if our most valuable resources are plenty more abundant in asteroids…
Lol. Fuel
Hey Thoughty2 thank you!
thank you thoughty2 for all the content, also love the channel and the videos keep up the grind
Would it not be worth just getting to Davida to be the first there and claim it? The deed would be worth a lot of money and value increase as the technology to realize profit grows. Could possibly be worth several billion now and in 30 years be worth trillions. As resources on Earth become more rare through use and transformation the ownership of Davida becomes more exclusive.
Thank you Thoughty2
You are in my top ten to watch! You Rock!
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Here is the problem, as soon a commodity volume blows up, price drops “like a rock” . So you’re not going to have a 4quntillion dollar worth of asteroid. You’re just gona have very very affordable commodities after mining
Bulding bunkers while wanting to direct asteroids towards the earth, hmm...
It's so common to think in terms of dollars for monetary value of things like resources.
EVERYBODY FORGETS THAT IT'S JUST ROCKS. Without the capacity to turn those rocks into useful things they're worthless.
The real problem is not the cost of mining the asteroid, it's the infrastructure to get there. Most of the technologies exist, just have to be adapted. We just don't have the luxury of using things like gravity, which many of our refinement processes on earth use. Mines on earth wouldn't be built either, if the entirety of the process - from the trucks, to the drills, to all the way back to major cities, and the power - had to be built by the company, before a single dollar can be extracted. And that is made all the worse due to vacuum and radiation.
So we'd need what we need here on earth. Governments (or at least a third party) needs to build the primary infrastructure and vehicles, and then other companies would just lease those and go off to do the mining with far more manageable expenses. But that's a chicken and egg problem.
There is a new space game coming out called influence where you can mine asteroids. My friend is really big into it.