@the red baron yes but you have used the mafia to your advantage and in addition the fascist took prisoners only 20% of the politicians the rest of the political prisoners were exilied.
@@fabrizio8057 This may seem unimportant, but most of the ones in exile were self-exiled to avoid imprisonment. Saragat for example was jailed as soon as he tried to go back and De Gasperi had to hide in the Vatican.
The American troops were unaware of the mafia and the mafiosos lied and said they were simply political prisoners. They also claimed they were anti communist and anti fascist so they could hold government positions
Americans had a track record of unleashing the violent criminal hordes upon their enemies. Much like the Soviets, really. The Nazis did it too, but they had the common decency (as much as they had, I'm sure) to only do it after the war was clearly FUBAR for them in like 1944
Yes, the Americans brought the mafia back in Italy in 1945, Mori today is still seen like a kind of an hero, the only dude who managed to make a closed minded island care about the state instead of mobs.
@@iltoni6895 The Law is not the be all and end all, as tools of government are used to shelter criminals from the consequences of their actions, it becomes necessary to tear down those institutions. And redraw the cards, a New Deal if you will - involving a lot a blood. It's part of the cycle of governance; during democracy, power is eventually concentrated in the hands of a few, forming an oligarchy. An oligarchy's goal is to maintain the status-co, leading to governance paralysis - the Stasis - and eventually strife. Out of the upheaval a tyrant emerges to purge the institutions. Tyrant wasn't always a dirty word, as the tyrant needed the support of the common people against oligarchs. When the tyrant's grip on power slipped, people rose up to put democracy in place and the cycle continued. Within this frame of thought, the Law is just a transitory state where things can settle down a bit, in between periods of upheavals. The cycle of crises is the rule, not the rule of law.
@@PipoZePoulpAs true as that could be, that doesn't apply to MussoIini. He was far more benevolent than the Mafia, and he was overthrown by foreign powers, not by Italian populace. Your explanation doesn't address the possibility of foreign powers destabilising a government.
@@iltoni6895 Mussolini achieved what started with Garibaldi; Italian unification. No small feat, especially with the mess Italy was in the 1910's. I'm not Italian, it's not up to me to judge Mussolini. I'll just say this, as someone who loves history; "We should not judge the past by today's standards, we weren't there". Xenocracy; a foreign power achieving domination other another polity. It is a state without substance and the most hated form of government. According to ancient Greeks, any other government would be preferable, as long as it is sovereign. When the USA allowed the Mafia to take over (under Uncle Sam's umbrella), it was with the knowledge that criminals make committed capitalists, and opponents to Communism. That's a process they repeated in South America.
compilations, you have explained almost everything flawlessly. just one thing you forgot to mention that when the americans landed in sicily, they used the mafia to their advantage and that's how they mainly got back into italy.
@@imaginegettingthat.99slopp7 the only one crying and acting like a kid is you here, it's not a COD lobby, it's not that family guy scene where the vietnamese guy says "SCORE BOARD, SCORE BOARD", grow up
The American mafia did not return to Sicily because it was inevitable. In 1944, the US Government, by the OSS, delivered a few select mafiosi (Lucky Luciano, for example) to Sicily in order to organize a resistance movement from former mafiosi, and even provided heaps of firearms for them. As a result, the Mafia became stronger than ever, and didn't really contribute much to the war effort.
No but the P2 sure was convenient so was financing mafia-fascists groups during the cold war the worst of the worst. And The black prince literally tried 2 times to coup Italy and restore the fascists before the Americans realised that MAYBE it wasn’t a good idea…. In the 80s
The allies armed the maffia for the invasion of Sicily in 1943. They didn'd fight the fascist authorities thoug but used the weapons later for their criminal activities. After the liberation of sicily the allies replaced fascist mayors and by mobsters. In the US the government payed the maffia to guard the harbours against spionage and sabotage.
really I thought in most mafia Movie's they were depicted as basically Running the City, or a large part of it with mafia's running the rest. And that they had all of the politicians and police in their back pocket
Pretty accurate except you left out the fact that the Americans released the Mafia after they took over in WW2 because of a deal they made with the NY mafia.
Well there is also the fact that high level mafiosi weren't really touched, for example a high level dude in the fascist party was suspended for Mafia implications, only to be absolved of all charges and to become a high level autority in the RSI
@@joshuatony.5353 The video creator? He seems awfully sympathetic to the Mafia and overly critical (to the point of straight up fabricating claims) of the state's, and particularly Mori's, actions against organized crime. He also blatantly omits that mafiosos came back because the US brought them back. The idea that the mafia was just bound to resurface is nonsense, it was dead and buried and external forces fueled resources to reconstruct this organization.
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 Thank you for actually thinking and speaking the truth this video is clearly bias, and too many people worship the mob because of movies & TV shows. In reality the mob is cruel and uncaring and they will do anything to get their money... ANYTHING.
"Mussolini, one of the worst dictatorship in history" Gonna be honest, he is way way down the list from the worst. Maybe worst if you measure in terms of competence.
@@richardbarbaros5868 to be fair, when you are presented with Neville Chamberlin and the French or Stalin and Hitler, you can see how you could make a mistake in picking sides when preparing for war
@@Relentless1975 Implying the entante hadn't fucked Italy in the peace deals and made them betray their old allies The reason for isolation was backstabbing rats never keeping their promised regardless of how much they're given
In a sense, he did defeat them. Because the defining principle of the mafia was to act outside the scope and influence of the state; to be independent of it. Mussolini made it so that you either had to either become part of the state or perish. But once he was dead, they were free to go back to their old ways without fear of being hunted down. It's akin to how emperors would destroy rival kings' armies, only to hand it back to them under the condition that they serve the emperor whenever he would call upon them. The local king retained his kingship, and the emperor became king of kings.
Mussolini in the end was a socialist but most of all a nationalist, the people did do better under him and he improved the effectiveness of the state. He just didn't tackle wealth inequality so much because his hold on power was in defacto alliance with conservatives and nationalists. The wealthy and powerful tend to be an important component when you're trying to forge an empire in the Med.
@@Litany_of_Fury "No individuals or groups outside the State. *Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism* to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State" - Doctrine of Fascism Mussolini was not a socialist, but he did oppose capitalism in someways, he wanted a system where the bourgeoisie and proletarian compromised and worked with the state, this is called "corporatism"
@@Litany_of_Fury that's sadly why he remained in power for so long. The companies who "loved the free market" so much, were all actually in bed with the FNP.
That's the question. There's definitely an active attempt to venerate/exonerate US and British exercise of power. But why would a historian conceal these facts?
Because they had to consistently paint Mussolini as the bad guy in this situation and put all blame on him even though he was the one to get rid of the Mob in the first place
One more thing must be said: Mori was not particularly close to the fascist regime nor sympatized for it, meaning it was under it by being a man of the state but in earlier days even arrested a group of fascist for causing trouble under his at the time prefecture in inland Italy
Lol I like how at the end of the video the narrator claims that Mussolini wasn’t affective at crushing the mob by stating after the war they just reappeared stronger than before. But what the narrator fails to mention is the reason why that was is because when Patton re took Sicily, the Americans placed in power whom they thought were political prisoners, when in reality they were don bosses. So really, it’s mostly America’s fault. They also fail to mention that Mussolini reinvigorated the economy throughout most of Italy, and brought a strong foundation to their society... all be it as it may at the cost of freedom of ideas, expression, freedom of press, speech, and then later brought the country to ruin through a failed war.
@@unusualbug1113 Mussolini and the Intransigenti were absolute idealist and honourable man. You dont know what you talking about you r-selected creature!
@@RealAugustusAutumn By national unity, you mean complete political, social and cultural control as well as warmongering and imperialism, right? Not really sure which hurt Italy more…
Did he really plant the seeds for the mafia to come back? Would the people be okay with living through all of that again? The US bringing the mafia back to fight Mussolini seems to have had a bigger role
People like to claim that the fascists just replaced the mafia or worked with them. It's not the case though. When Italy lost the War and fascism was removed by force by Allied forces, it left a void that the criminal underworld moved into.
Yes, Mussolini completely crushed the Mafia and they were so terrified of him they fled to the United States. The only reason they were allowed back and gained control was because the United States militarily invaded them with Britian. Also the video leaves out the part about why the Mafia was flourishing so much in the US being because the allied governments used them to gaurd docks, break strikes, enforcement and to invade italy. Guess it's easier though to just say the big dumb fascists didn't do anything to stop them and just caused them to leave.
@@Litany_of_Fury Both th Mafia and Fascist Corporatism work under similar principles, that's why USA utilised Mafia against the working class movement.
There are some imprecision there were mobsters already in the US before Mori. Plus Mori himself was removed because he wanted to pursue high level politicians embedded with the fascist regime that were previously mobsters or affiliated with clans. Furthermore Mori was well aware of the issue of poverty and underdevelopment in Sicily and was proposing reforms that were never completely actuated. As far as we are aware no kangaroo courts were created at the time but no legal pretext was given to the crime syndicate. As someone of yours commentator said the US was instrumental in reinstate the criminals to the maximum in Sicily.
One more thing must be said: Mori was not particularly close to the fascist regime nor sympatized for it, meaning it was under it by being a man of the state but in earlier days even arrested a group of fascist for causing trouble under his at the time prefecture in inland Italy
Yes. The 'crime' I can see being committed here is to ignore American government Mafia involvement that continues up to this day and pretend the Fascist were no more than 'just another gang'. By that measure, almost every government on Earth is 'just another gang' and so is every military.
So, by what standards was Mussolini "one of the worst dictators"? I don't like him and he was not a good person, but as far as dictators go, he was really mild
Fun fact: at the beginning of the Godfather when Vito is cuddling the cat many believe that it was a trained animal actor but really it was just a stray the crew found wandering around the studio
There seems to be an almost laughable attempt to point Mori as the Villian here. Although it's true that Mori surrounded Gangi he didn't slaughter any cattle or kidnap any women or children (what use would he have for these tactics anyway). he simply used the soldiers to go door to door and arrest the Mafia members (he used army tactics as the Mafia were essentially an army at that point). He also didn't Assasinate any Mafia members,the only member killed were the ones that tried to attack him or his forces (during arrest or otherwise). Finally his methods were largely ineffective in the long run for 2 reasons: 1 he wasn't allowed to arrest a lot of the high level Mafiosos as they were affiliated with the Fascist regime (in fact that was the reason he was selfed) and 2: the US freed or transported back most of the Mafia members after the invasion of Sicily and even gave them support and high ranking position in exchange for helping the US maintain the population under control
Mori did what he was tasked to do and did well. He even said Mussolini that is the root of the problem wasn't solved all that work would have been for nothing. And don't forget who let mafia return in Sicily: USA
I'm disappointed you didn't clarify that by being one of the 'Worst' Dictators in history, you mean Mussolini was actually the worst AT being a Dictator.
@@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 Yes the Communist Derg Dictatorship in Ethiopia from 1974 to 1990 killed way more people than Mussolini. Thank you for mentioning it
Nice. I liked this one. My great grand father was originally from sicily. But he relocated in Colombia after Musulini's crack down on Mafia. He started bringing contraband from the pacific port in Colombia. Then he was captured and Pretty much ruined my family. Things are ok now though.
My maternal great-granduncle is Joseph Anthony Colombo, who strongarmed Paramount and Coppola into changes to "The Godfather" so that the films didn't make La Cosa Nostra look too bad, and who partially influenced Brando's portrayal of Vito Corleone. The mob in the States was a rough crowd, and back in Italy they were even worse. Mussolini crushing them was based, regardless of anyone's opinion.
This video tries too hard to make mafia look good because fascism bad. Mafia are complete scum and dont deserve any better and you can not compromose when you fight them. Mori seems like a hero but the video purposfully makes him look like he is evil. I have to question moral compass of the video creator.
"make the fascists look bad in literally every scenario" is definitely detrimental to political discourse. It's bad enough that most Americans don't even have a general idea of what fascism is.
@@bobmcbob49 Stfu, i dont understand why people say America when they mean literally all first world countries, the video creator isn't even from the same continent.
@@bobmcbob49 Most Western Europeans and people in Anglophone countries legitimately believe that Fascism is ‘totalitarian paternalism plus racism’, which is incredibly bizarre in and of itself, though can be explained when one considers that National Socialism is conflated with the Fascism as a given assumption. Illiberal politics have more breathing room in Southern and especially Eastern Europe. The Atlanticist sphere holds a vice grip over what’s socially permissible within its remit.
Mussolini by most standards was probably the best leader Italy had but he was a fascist so we can't ever praise anything he did without tons of bullshit comments to preface
@@erixccjc2143 He wasn't able to be a real dictator until 1943. He implemented socialism them but before that he had to spend his whole regime towing the line appealing to the monarchists to keep power
@@henrikhaugen1457 Corporatism was in effect derived from national syndicalism. The means of production in Italy was owned, thanks to corporatism in effect by both the private sector which was overseen by the state. Econlib has an article titled "The Socialist Economics of Fascism" which goes deep into what policies their economy had. TIK too had videos about fascism. Fascist Italy started out capitalist but as time went on nationalization and regulation heavily increased
2:53 omertà is a form of solidarity between associates, aimed at covering up criminal conduct, concealing the identity of the person who committed a crime or in any case keeping silent about circumstances useful for investigations by the judicial authority
@@sdagoth3037 No most Fascist nations have little corruption. Their navy preformed really well it was their army and air force that had problems due to a lack of preparation Italy needed until like 1944-46 to get their Whole military up to snuff
At 0:59. That makes sense. Before the chaos of Italian unification starting in 1815, the southern parts of Italy had been ruled by the iron hand of absolute monarchies, first Spanish, then Austrian and then Spanish again. But when Napoleon invaded Italy and placed one of his marshals on the throne of Naples and Sicily, all hell broke loose. It was hard to rein in the chaos for the reinstated Bourbon kings after 1815. And that's how the mafia was born.
lets just forget how Mussolini expanded the Italian economy and how his grand daughter is a very popular figure in italy today, not only that but he also aimed to increase the Italian population, which wouldn't be too hard because the reason Italy's population never grows rapidly is because of migration
Why are you simping for a authoritarian dictator? Who cares if he "expanded the economy" when he was directly responsible for mass murder and the destruction of his own country?
@@pandaman2234 no he was an authirotran that killed whoever disobeyed him and brought his own country to ruin. Basically proving that facism doesnt work especially when they just turn on each other
You forgive to say that the Mafia returns again in Italy in the end of second world war because the American government questions help to American and Italian (the left part) mafia for win the war.
7:13 : Mori was a policeman not a politician. It was not his duty to address societal issues. Italian governments from 1861 ( when our country was officialy born) untill today have donne nothing for societal issues in southern Italy. For them it's ok if still today the South of our country is underdeveloped compared with North.
The Fascist rule of Italy was indeed a dark time...but Mussolini was the only Italian leader in history who managed to break the Mafia's power...gotta give him that! But I think that wouldn't be possible the same way now...
@@Litany_of_Fury what communist? The ones that never were part of the government and were murdered by the dozens by the mafia, the CIA and neo-fascist organizations?
@@Litany_of_Fury yeah. After the war. Can you name an Italian government (after or before the war) with even a single member of the communist party in it? Also, while you're there, read up about Gladio.
even if Mori ignored the rule of Law he never acted terrorist campaigns against the population. Anyway, whwen he was removed from office he always said he had not finished his work, it is said that he was arresting people in too high places threatening the local PNF stations (of course full of Mafiosi)
@@0815Catgus people have pointed out that Moris tactics worked and that even today he's seen as a hero, and that the policies put in place by Mussolini worked UNTIL the Americans freed the mafia and let them go back to Sicily and then the rest of Italy.
@@Hatsuzu Sounds pretty realistic. That dude is probably Bri' ish so makes sense that he has a problem with Mussolini, his country destroyed the greatest countries that ever existed (Germany, Italy and after Francos death Spain)
How was Mussolini one of the "worst dictators in history"? If anything he was one of the most tolerant and respectful. The Allies made diplomacy impossible.
Franco Spain and Mussolini Italy could have been a strong stabilizing option compared to hedonist capitalism or godless communism. Wish we had leaders like them again.
I would enjoy a video on how the Catholic church dealt with Mussolini. Even today I can't imagine an Italian ruler coming into power with disapproval of the Vatican, let alone in the 20s and 30s. So they must have supported him a lot. I read somewhere that he paid them off, but would appreciate more details. It doesn't really get talked about because of their other scandals but it should.
And you clearly are not very well informed on italian history because untill mussolini the vatican did not exist and the pope was at odds with the nation of italy, as matter of fact before mussolini being an italian nationalist and being catholic were mutually exclusive
What? The Vatican City State as we know it today exists because of the Lateran Treaty, signed by Mussolini himself. From the unity of Italy to 1929 the various popes never even considered the Italian government itself to be legitimate, and in turn the papacy was reduced to a political non-entity
Also how the American army recruited US mafia and made them officers, before the invasion of Sicily to recruit the local mafia into helping them. Making sure they were well compensated
@@8Smoker8 Characterizing him as "one of the worst dictators" is just misleading. He was bad guy, but compared to his peers Mussolini was absolutely tame.
Don't forget that the American Army opened the Italian Prisons, allowing the Mafia to return to their business. (Same for Japan.)
@the red baron yes but you have used the mafia to your advantage and in addition the fascist took prisoners only 20% of the politicians the rest of the political prisoners were exilied.
@@fabrizio8057 This may seem unimportant, but most of the ones in exile were self-exiled to avoid imprisonment. Saragat for example was jailed as soon as he tried to go back and De Gasperi had to hide in the Vatican.
you forgot to mention the deal the Americans made with Cosa Nostra to have an easy landing in Sicily
The American troops were unaware of the mafia and the mafiosos lied and said they were simply political prisoners. They also claimed they were anti communist and anti fascist so they could hold government positions
Americans had a track record of unleashing the violent criminal hordes upon their enemies.
Much like the Soviets, really.
The Nazis did it too, but they had the common decency (as much as they had, I'm sure) to only do it after the war was clearly FUBAR for them in like 1944
Yes, the Americans brought the mafia back in Italy in 1945, Mori today is still seen like a kind of an hero, the only dude who managed to make a closed minded island care about the state instead of mobs.
Because he could play on the same level as the mafia - ignoring the laws
@@iltoni6895
Scum hates heroes
@@iltoni6895
The Law is not the be all and end all, as tools of government are used to shelter criminals from the consequences of their actions, it becomes necessary to tear down those institutions. And redraw the cards, a New Deal if you will - involving a lot a blood.
It's part of the cycle of governance; during democracy, power is eventually concentrated in the hands of a few, forming an oligarchy.
An oligarchy's goal is to maintain the status-co, leading to governance paralysis - the Stasis - and eventually strife.
Out of the upheaval a tyrant emerges to purge the institutions. Tyrant wasn't always a dirty word, as the tyrant needed the support of the common people against oligarchs.
When the tyrant's grip on power slipped, people rose up to put democracy in place and the cycle continued.
Within this frame of thought, the Law is just a transitory state where things can settle down a bit, in between periods of upheavals. The cycle of crises is the rule, not the rule of law.
@@PipoZePoulpAs true as that could be, that doesn't apply to MussoIini. He was far more benevolent than the Mafia, and he was overthrown by foreign powers, not by Italian populace. Your explanation doesn't address the possibility of foreign powers destabilising a government.
@@iltoni6895
Mussolini achieved what started with Garibaldi; Italian unification. No small feat, especially with the mess Italy was in the 1910's.
I'm not Italian, it's not up to me to judge Mussolini. I'll just say this, as someone who loves history; "We should not judge the past by today's standards, we weren't there".
Xenocracy; a foreign power achieving domination other another polity. It is a state without substance and the most hated form of government. According to ancient Greeks, any other government would be preferable, as long as it is sovereign.
When the USA allowed the Mafia to take over (under Uncle Sam's umbrella), it was with the knowledge that criminals make committed capitalists, and opponents to Communism.
That's a process they repeated in South America.
compilations, you have explained almost everything flawlessly. just one thing you forgot to mention that when the americans landed in sicily, they used the mafia to their advantage and that's how they mainly got back into italy.
my family started a crime family in America although our family was pushed out and replaced another family took control
lmao you wish the mafia were "mainly" why they made it to Italy, cry about it
@@imaginegettingthat.99slopp7 they were.
@@imaginegettingthat.99slopp7 the only one crying and acting like a kid is you here, it's not a COD lobby, it's not that family guy scene where the vietnamese guy says "SCORE BOARD, SCORE BOARD", grow up
@not tyre wow original joke, never heard it from elsewhere, wow you must be a commediant aint ya?
The American mafia did not return to Sicily because it was inevitable. In 1944, the US Government, by the OSS, delivered a few select mafiosi (Lucky Luciano, for example) to Sicily in order to organize a resistance movement from former mafiosi, and even provided heaps of firearms for them. As a result, the Mafia became stronger than ever, and didn't really contribute much to the war effort.
The US has a history of assisting organized crime.
No but the P2 sure was convenient so was financing mafia-fascists groups during the cold war the worst of the worst. And The black prince literally tried 2 times to coup Italy and restore the fascists before the Americans realised that MAYBE it wasn’t a good idea…. In the 80s
The American government has a history of supporting scum. Operation Paperclip and the dictatorships in South America. Not to mention the Taliban.
The wrong side won
@@geoDB. well it’s nice to know you support the genocide of Jews
Amateur criminals rob banks, professional criminals go into banking.
Ohh, Ovey
Oy vey
Cool it with the antisemitism
Yep
@@ThomasShelby6213 Cool it with the anti-gentilism.
The Mafia resurfaced with the help of the allies, who made arrangements with Lucky Luciano and other mobsters, they forgot to say ...
or they didnt say on purpaise lets not forget the video its about the evil fashists xD
The allies armed the maffia for the invasion of Sicily in 1943. They didn'd fight the fascist authorities thoug but used the weapons later for their criminal activities. After the liberation of sicily the allies replaced fascist mayors and by mobsters. In the US the government payed the maffia to guard the harbours against spionage and sabotage.
@@dartmoul13 yeah fascists are evil
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 No you are.
@@freedom2663 lol troll
If you ever wonder why Hollywood tries their best to make the mafia look like an underdog hero, now you know..
I think that originated from the time of the prohibition
really I thought in most mafia Movie's they were depicted as basically Running the City, or a large part of it with mafia's running the rest. And that they had all of the politicians and police in their back pocket
@@zechariahmathieson6713 It do be that way
I probably watch some other Hollywood. Be it Godfather or Goodfellas, Mafia is always depicted as thugs in the end. With only but facade of honour.
People have always loved crime stories God knows why. Hollywood keeps making them because people keep watching them for some reason
Pretty accurate except you left out the fact that the Americans released the Mafia after they took over in WW2 because of a deal they made with the NY mafia.
Well there is also the fact that high level mafiosi weren't really touched, for example a high level dude in the fascist party was suspended for Mafia implications, only to be absolved of all charges and to become a high level autority in the RSI
i mean the USA also took the educated nazis so that they can work for them. USA doesnt care about right or wrong
@@froglifes6829 yes very true.
They let out lucky Luciano to protect the docks in my.
This video is not accurate at all. Go read some real history.
Had to engage in some serious mental gymnastics to pretend like Mussolini was in the wrong for taking out the mafia
Who are you talking to? 💀
@@joshuatony.5353 The video creator? He seems awfully sympathetic to the Mafia and overly critical (to the point of straight up fabricating claims) of the state's, and particularly Mori's, actions against organized crime. He also blatantly omits that mafiosos came back because the US brought them back. The idea that the mafia was just bound to resurface is nonsense, it was dead and buried and external forces fueled resources to reconstruct this organization.
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 Thank you for actually thinking and speaking the truth this video is clearly bias, and too many people worship the mob because of movies & TV shows.
In reality the mob is cruel and uncaring and they will do anything to get their money... ANYTHING.
"Mussolini, one of the worst dictatorship in history"
Gonna be honest, he is way way down the list from the worst.
Maybe worst if you measure in terms of competence.
His biggest mistake was siding with the funny-mustache man.
@@richardbarbaros5868
The allies were backstabbing rats
From an honest perspective he was left with little choice, Senior Hilter or total isolation
@@richardbarbaros5868 to be fair, when you are presented with Neville Chamberlin and the French or Stalin and Hitler, you can see how you could make a mistake in picking sides when preparing for war
@@Relentless1975
Implying the entante hadn't fucked Italy in the peace deals and made them betray their old allies
The reason for isolation was backstabbing rats never keeping their promised regardless of how much they're given
@@commisaryarreck3974 I reckon he could have gotten away with neutrality like Franco did.
In a sense, he did defeat them. Because the defining principle of the mafia was to act outside the scope and influence of the state; to be independent of it. Mussolini made it so that you either had to either become part of the state or perish.
But once he was dead, they were free to go back to their old ways without fear of being hunted down. It's akin to how emperors would destroy rival kings' armies, only to hand it back to them under the condition that they serve the emperor whenever he would call upon them. The local king retained his kingship, and the emperor became king of kings.
Mussolini in the end was a socialist but most of all a nationalist, the people did do better under him and he improved the effectiveness of the state. He just didn't tackle wealth inequality so much because his hold on power was in defacto alliance with conservatives and nationalists. The wealthy and powerful tend to be an important component when you're trying to forge an empire in the Med.
@@Litany_of_Fury "No individuals or groups outside the State. *Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism* to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State" - Doctrine of Fascism
Mussolini was not a socialist, but he did oppose capitalism in someways, he wanted a system where the bourgeoisie and proletarian compromised and worked with the state, this is called "corporatism"
@@ninoy4914 I would consider Fascism a branch of Socialism, just like with Marxism.
@@Litany_of_Fury That isn't quite right. Fascism and socialism are both branches of collectivism. They are siblings, not parent and child.
@@Litany_of_Fury that's sadly why he remained in power for so long. The companies who "loved the free market" so much, were all actually in bed with the FNP.
This Mussolini fella sounds like a real gamer.
He is also a real jerk!
WHY you don't mention that the US Gov made a deal with the Mafia, to help them beat the Fascists, and gave them breathing and reemergence abilities?
That's the question. There's definitely an active attempt to venerate/exonerate US and British exercise of power. But why would a historian conceal these facts?
Well, the mafia would have come back anyway once Mussolini was gone. So why not?
Because they had to consistently paint Mussolini as the bad guy in this situation and put all blame on him even though he was the one to get rid of the Mob in the first place
@@altGoolam because he's biased
@@ThomasShelby6213 because his a shitlib shill fed by shekels
Cesare Mori is one of the most badass names in history, for sure.
Actually, I think the most badass name is Genghis Khan.
I think Francisco Franco is the coolest name
@@Shotgun_Only based
One more thing must be said: Mori was not particularly close to the fascist regime nor sympatized for it, meaning it was under it by being a man of the state but in earlier days even arrested a group of fascist for causing trouble under his at the time prefecture in inland Italy
💯 accurate
So was he a mafiosi ?? Or related to the Mafia atleast he knew how to act like one and he looked like a mobster
Lol I like how at the end of the video the narrator claims that Mussolini wasn’t affective at crushing the mob by stating after the war they just reappeared stronger than before. But what the narrator fails to mention is the reason why that was is because when Patton re took Sicily, the Americans placed in power whom they thought were political prisoners, when in reality they were don bosses. So really, it’s mostly America’s fault. They also fail to mention that Mussolini reinvigorated the economy throughout most of Italy, and brought a strong foundation to their society... all be it as it may at the cost of freedom of ideas, expression, freedom of press, speech, and then later brought the country to ruin through a failed war.
Not really
@@SmashingCapital Christopher's Right
Man I'd live in fascistic Italy. Like you said it was only defeated by force.
@@M.I.Antonini how so
@@scutumfidelis1436 ?
I've never seen anyone make Mussolini look like a bad guy for eliminating a criminal government.
@@unusualbug1113 One was out for money, the other was out for national unity. We are not the same.
@@unusualbug1113 Mussolini and the Intransigenti were absolute idealist and honourable man. You dont know what you talking about you r-selected creature!
@@RealAugustusAutumn By national unity, you mean complete political, social and cultural control as well as warmongering and imperialism, right? Not really sure which hurt Italy more…
@@samrevlej9331 Yes, that's exactly what I mean
@@RealAugustusAutumn Sooo are you saying that was a good thing?
Did he really plant the seeds for the mafia to come back?
Would the people be okay with living through all of that again?
The US bringing the mafia back to fight Mussolini seems to have had a bigger role
People like to claim that the fascists just replaced the mafia or worked with them. It's not the case though. When Italy lost the War and fascism was removed by force by Allied forces, it left a void that the criminal underworld moved into.
It was actually the American occupation of Italy that brought back the mafia because they released all the prisoners.
Yes, Mussolini completely crushed the Mafia and they were so terrified of him they fled to the United States. The only reason they were allowed back and gained control was because the United States militarily invaded them with Britian.
Also the video leaves out the part about why the Mafia was flourishing so much in the US being because the allied governments used them to gaurd docks, break strikes, enforcement and to invade italy. Guess it's easier though to just say the big dumb fascists didn't do anything to stop them and just caused them to leave.
@@Litany_of_Fury Both th Mafia and Fascist Corporatism work under similar principles, that's why USA utilised Mafia against the working class movement.
@@Litany_of_Fury it's true though. Mori literally arrested fascists hierarchs. Well, he tried to.
There are some imprecision there were mobsters already in the US before Mori. Plus Mori himself was removed because he wanted to pursue high level politicians embedded with the fascist regime that were previously mobsters or affiliated with clans. Furthermore Mori was well aware of the issue of poverty and underdevelopment in Sicily and was proposing reforms that were never completely actuated. As far as we are aware no kangaroo courts were created at the time but no legal pretext was given to the crime syndicate. As someone of yours commentator said the US was instrumental in reinstate the criminals to the maximum in Sicily.
One more thing must be said: Mori was not particularly close to the fascist regime nor sympatized for it, meaning it was under it by being a man of the state but in earlier days even arrested a group of fascist for causing trouble under his at the time prefecture in inland Italy
@@XMarkxyz Interesting.
Yes. The 'crime' I can see being committed here is to ignore American government Mafia involvement that continues up to this day and pretend the Fascist were no more than 'just another gang'. By that measure, almost every government on Earth is 'just another gang' and so is every military.
Basically the story from the cartoon is pretty much wrong.
Thank you
How did you leave out America's role in bringing back the mafia... come on, you were doing such a good job
because he doesn't want to make a fascist look good.
@@pkmkb1 Maybe they were good.
@@cxarhomell5867 si si si!
@@cxarhomell5867 Cool it with the anti-semitism.
@@triumphemus That's nazism, fascism isnt about ethnical cleansing
So, by what standards was Mussolini "one of the worst dictators"? I don't like him and he was not a good person, but as far as dictators go, he was really mild
As a Greek I can confirm the Italian occupation was the most tolerable. Greeks under German and Bulgarian occupation suffered immensely...
Fun fact: at the beginning of the Godfather when Vito is cuddling the cat many believe that it was a trained animal actor but really it was just a stray the crew found wandering around the studio
There seems to be an almost laughable attempt to point Mori as the Villian here.
Although it's true that Mori surrounded Gangi he didn't slaughter any cattle or kidnap any women or children (what use would he have for these tactics anyway). he simply used the soldiers to go door to door and arrest the Mafia members (he used army tactics as the Mafia were essentially an army at that point).
He also didn't Assasinate any Mafia members,the only member killed were the ones that tried to attack him or his forces (during arrest or otherwise). Finally his methods were largely ineffective in the long run for 2 reasons: 1 he wasn't allowed to arrest a lot of the high level Mafiosos as they were affiliated with the Fascist regime (in fact that was the reason he was selfed) and 2: the US freed or transported back most of the Mafia members after the invasion of Sicily and even gave them support and high ranking position in exchange for helping the US maintain the population under control
So he used mafia to gain control? Proof?
So you basically say mori was a bastard and incompetent. Instead of going for the core issue, he escelated and was fucking moron
Not entirely accurate. Mussolini provided more for Sicily than previous Italian governments.
Mori did what he was tasked to do and did well. He even said Mussolini that is the root of the problem wasn't solved all that work would have been for nothing. And don't forget who let mafia return in Sicily: USA
I'm disappointed you didn't clarify that by being one of the 'Worst' Dictators in history, you mean Mussolini was actually the worst AT being a Dictator.
He wasn't even the Head of State.
I laughed when he said that
Mussolini's kill count was pretty damn low for the dictators of that era.
@@komisossoutsidi5801 Ethiopia
@@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 Yes the Communist Derg Dictatorship in Ethiopia from 1974 to 1990 killed way more people than Mussolini. Thank you for mentioning it
Nice. I liked this one. My great grand father was originally from sicily. But he relocated in Colombia after Musulini's crack down on Mafia. He started bringing contraband from the pacific port in Colombia. Then he was captured and Pretty much ruined my family. Things are ok now though.
This story was an emotional rollercoaster, thanks for sharing it! Glad to hear your family is doing well now.
Pacific port? You mean Choco?
@@lucasbakeforero426 Buenaventura in valle del Cauca
@@maresgoez I heard this story somewhere , I think it was in a show or a movie or something or maybe it was someone else I’m not sure
@@porothashawarma2339 shut up
I took a taxi ride in Naples, and was amazed at the architecture and buildings built by Il Duce
SALUTIAMO AL DUCE
A NOI
My maternal great-granduncle is Joseph Anthony Colombo, who strongarmed Paramount and Coppola into changes to "The Godfather" so that the films didn't make La Cosa Nostra look too bad, and who partially influenced Brando's portrayal of Vito Corleone.
The mob in the States was a rough crowd, and back in Italy they were even worse. Mussolini crushing them was based, regardless of anyone's opinion.
If Mussolini had the ability to stay neutral in the war with the Allies and the Germans he would be remembered the same way Castro was remembered.
How it based when one criminal replaces another?
It's amazing how in history the good guys have always won, and the bad guys always lost. Very peculiar
Thats why one must always have faith in the system. It works!
This is too smart of a take for this channel
Also interesting how the U.S. is an evil, colonizing, aggressive regime throughout its short history...with the exception of WW2. Pure virtue.
@@marcushagey4110 Stop noticing things, it's Anti-Semitic
I know right its such an amazing thing that the good guys never lost even once and only the bad guys lost
I would blindly guess this channel has about 1 millions subscribers.
Imagine siding with organized crime and thinking you’re the good guy.
The state of communist piggies
Mainstream ideology sees alternative ideology as the ultimate evil, even when successful
@aufwiedersehen8191 Exactly my point.
Communism and Capitalism. 2 sides of the same coin. The money leads you to the nose
...like Mussolini did to hold Sicily?
Contrary to expectation the huge wave of arrest lead to mostly fair suits and a lot of people were freed
This video tries too hard to make mafia look good because fascism bad. Mafia are complete scum and dont deserve any better and you can not compromose when you fight them. Mori seems like a hero but the video purposfully makes him look like he is evil. I have to question moral compass of the video creator.
Mafia is bad but we take it as a evil-good because fascism is bad.
Madre de Dios...
"make the fascists look bad in literally every scenario" is definitely detrimental to political discourse.
It's bad enough that most Americans don't even have a general idea of what fascism is.
@@bobmcbob49 Stfu, i dont understand why people say America when they mean literally all first world countries, the video creator isn't even from the same continent.
@@bobmcbob49 Most Western Europeans and people in Anglophone countries legitimately believe that Fascism is ‘totalitarian paternalism plus racism’, which is incredibly bizarre in and of itself, though can be explained when one considers that National Socialism is conflated with the Fascism as a given assumption.
Illiberal politics have more breathing room in Southern and especially Eastern Europe. The Atlanticist sphere holds a vice grip over what’s socially permissible within its remit.
I mean, they left out the part where American Allied troops liberated the mafias intentionally
One of the worst dictators in history? Dude doesn't even crack top 50.
Mussolini by most standards was probably the best leader Italy had but he was a fascist so we can't ever praise anything he did without tons of bullshit comments to preface
Thats what he meant. Worst as he was bad at being a dictator lmaoo
@@erixccjc2143
He wasn't able to be a real dictator until 1943. He implemented socialism them but before that he had to spend his whole regime towing the line appealing to the monarchists to keep power
@@ManiacMayhem7256 I don't think socialism was ever implemented in Italy. The fascist party itself was corporatist
@@henrikhaugen1457
Corporatism was in effect derived from national syndicalism.
The means of production in Italy was owned, thanks to corporatism in effect by both the private sector which was overseen by the state. Econlib has an article titled "The Socialist Economics of Fascism" which goes deep into what policies their economy had. TIK too had videos about fascism. Fascist Italy started out capitalist but as time went on nationalization and regulation heavily increased
Short answer: he owned the military and could exercise them without oversight
2:53 omertà is a form of solidarity between associates, aimed at covering up criminal conduct, concealing the identity of the person who committed a crime or in any case keeping silent about circumstances useful for investigations by the judicial authority
0:23 Corrupt blackshirts? That is a joke right?
The gestapo maybe but the blackshirts? I don’t think so
Wasn't their military so ineffective because of how massively corrupt it was?
@@sdagoth3037 No most Fascist nations have little corruption. Their navy preformed really well it was their army and air force that had problems due to a lack of preparation Italy needed until like 1944-46 to get their Whole military up to snuff
@@voxpopuli7910 What do mean?
@@jdools4744 a joke my friend
The Virgin Mafia vs the chad Squadristi
Where are your Squadristi now?
@@nektariosorfanoudakis2270where's you hairline now?
This makes Mussolini look good.
He was
It seems Italy needs another Mussolini because of the Maffia.
Imagine believing facsist propaganda
@@FlagAnthemImagining that democracy works and your vote matters.
@@FlagAnthemcommie detected
At 0:59. That makes sense. Before the chaos of Italian unification starting in 1815, the southern parts of Italy had been ruled by the iron hand of absolute monarchies, first Spanish, then Austrian and then Spanish again. But when Napoleon invaded Italy and placed one of his marshals on the throne of Naples and Sicily, all hell broke loose. It was hard to rein in the chaos for the reinstated Bourbon kings after 1815. And that's how the mafia was born.
Mori even used artillery fire to force the Mafious to surrender 😂
That man was tough, but hey, tough times need tough men.
Gigachad
Damn. he was shelling a village to weaken the mob
One of the many good things Mussolini did. Mussolini isn’t given a lot of credit and is very misunderstood in todays society.
probably because of his friendship with a certain austrian painter...
lol
@@Vodka6329 that kinda ruined him....
lets just forget how Mussolini expanded the Italian economy and how his grand daughter is a very popular figure in italy today, not only that but he also aimed to increase the Italian population, which wouldn't be too hard because the reason Italy's population never grows rapidly is because of migration
Why are you simping for a authoritarian dictator? Who cares if he "expanded the economy" when he was directly responsible for mass murder and the destruction of his own country?
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 he killed communists and criminals, not Italians.
@@pandaman2234 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Italy
He was the one who invited Hitler in and helped him
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 and the US is a saint right ?
@@pandaman2234 no he was an authirotran that killed whoever disobeyed him and brought his own country to ruin. Basically proving that facism doesnt work especially when they just turn on each other
Incredible video, this channel is bound to explode soon! Keep up the great videos!
You forgive to say that the Mafia returns again in Italy in the end of second world war because the American government questions help to American and Italian (the left part) mafia for win the war.
This is an awesome & fun production. Subbed with all the bells and notifications! Well done.
The quality of these videos is impeccable! Soon to be star!
Just stumbled upon this video and yeah, this guy is worthy of 1M+ subs!
Mafia : this thing of ours
Government : this thing is MINE!!!
Mussolini is just a boy scouts in front of Stalin and Hitler if we're talking about dictatorship and cleaning.
7:13 : Mori was a policeman not a politician. It was not his duty to address societal issues. Italian governments from 1861 ( when our country was officialy born) untill today have donne nothing for societal issues in southern Italy. For them it's ok if still today the South of our country is underdeveloped compared with North.
Love your videos! all of it and all of them
Haven't a clue how accurate this is but its brilliantly presented :)
Honestly how do these videos don't get at least 100k views? The animation and commentary is very engaging and the topics intriguing.
Well, some 650,000 views later, you should be feeling better about things.
LOL
Castor oil is a strong and rough laxative.
Forcing it down their opponents throats was a common torture method for fascists.
The Fascist rule of Italy was indeed a dark time...but Mussolini was the only Italian leader in history who managed to break the Mafia's power...gotta give him that! But I think that wouldn't be possible the same way now...
Not many light times in unified Italian history. Even after the war the mafia and the communists caused the country great pains.
@@Litany_of_Fury what communist? The ones that never were part of the government and were murdered by the dozens by the mafia, the CIA and neo-fascist organizations?
@@thebrognator3524 Please note I said AFTER the war.
@@Litany_of_Fury yeah. After the war. Can you name an Italian government (after or before the war) with even a single member of the communist party in it? Also, while you're there, read up about Gladio.
@@thebrognator3524 I never said there were communists in government. There were communists in the criminal underworld.
even if Mori ignored the rule of Law he never acted terrorist campaigns against the population. Anyway, whwen he was removed from office he always said he had not finished his work, it is said that he was arresting people in too high places threatening the local PNF stations (of course full of Mafiosi)
This was a good watch, earned a subscriber.
Make America Great , Don and Ron's battle cry.
Nice channel! Very interesting video too. Saying you are underrated would be an understatement.
Unlike democracy, fascism actually got shit done.
And was about respecting each other's cultures, borders, and religions, while not being racist and judging others from outward appearance
@@GoobNoob Forced tolerance is still dictatorship.
@@LurkerAnonymous So your saying we live in a Dictatorship right now?
@@LurkerAnonymous Also, this is Respect, not Tolerance. You deserve what you Tolerate.
@@GoobNoob dystopia
The creator has never responded to the criticism of this video, what a coward.
What criticism?
@@0815Catgus people have pointed out that Moris tactics worked and that even today he's seen as a hero, and that the policies put in place by Mussolini worked UNTIL the Americans freed the mafia and let them go back to Sicily and then the rest of Italy.
@@Hatsuzu Sounds pretty realistic.
That dude is probably Bri' ish so makes sense that he has a problem with Mussolini, his country destroyed the greatest countries that ever existed (Germany, Italy and after Francos death Spain)
@@0815Catgus he also named Mussolini as one of the worst dictators..which he's not even close to being....lmao
@@Hatsuzu he was the 2nd best
this guy has such a big vocal range its awesome (and also a awesome regular voice, if that is his regular voice)
6:06 that portrait mode! Nice touch!
One of their infamous torture methods was forcing people to look at and even eat pineapple on pizza, how despicable!
Lol try their good method of olio di ricino. You will have fun time shitting yourself to death, literally xD.
And how is that torture?
US/Nato post war intelligence also aided Luciano in wresting control of workwide heroin networks from the Corsican Mafia and French Connection
@@phantasma9391 It's a joke
How was Mussolini one of the "worst dictators in history"? If anything he was one of the most tolerant and respectful. The Allies made diplomacy impossible.
He crushed them like the slimy cowards they truly are.
Loved the ending on that black plastic paper in the centre of the room.
Denying Mussolini his crowd has to be one of the greatest "F you's" in history. Well played
Mussolini: brings order back to Italy, allows for its self-suficiency and brings back Italian pride.
Americans: hold my beer and my tobachy
Immagine bringing back Italian pride
A-historical delusion
ROFL, we kicked your asses at 1940, you want some more of that?
here in Italy, we are always ready to hang fascist whenever needed.
@@oro7114 non-italian detected, opinion rejected.
I'm Italian... and I definetly in love with this 😂😂😂
I freakin' LOVE your content!!
Great video!
I'm officially on a ... *SideQuest*.
My current objective is binge watching all this channel has to offer
You kinda glossed over the Lucky Luciano deal and how the USA basically let the Mafia go free after WW2
Wildly entertaining video!
Franco Spain and Mussolini Italy could have been a strong stabilizing option compared to hedonist capitalism or godless communism. Wish we had leaders like them again.
As godless as communism was, im sure you've seen what they do to degenerates.
One day, bro, one day
God bless
Gonna bingewatch this channel's videos, as kind of support.
this is my new fav channel now
I would enjoy a video on how the Catholic church dealt with Mussolini. Even today I can't imagine an Italian ruler coming into power with disapproval of the Vatican, let alone in the 20s and 30s. So they must have supported him a lot. I read somewhere that he paid them off, but would appreciate more details. It doesn't really get talked about because of their other scandals but it should.
They did. They were scared of communism. And Mussolini had so much power by the time they realized they didn't have much choice left
This is actually talked a lot in italy: look up the "patti lateranensi"
And you clearly are not very well informed on italian history because untill mussolini the vatican did not exist and the pope was at odds with the nation of italy, as matter of fact before mussolini being an italian nationalist and being catholic were mutually exclusive
What? The Vatican City State as we know it today exists because of the Lateran Treaty, signed by Mussolini himself. From the unity of Italy to 1929 the various popes never even considered the Italian government itself to be legitimate, and in turn the papacy was reduced to a political non-entity
You forgot to mention the Operation Husky, operation which made possible the strong return of Mafia
“One of the worse dictators in history” wasn’t even that bad and technically wasn’t even a dictator
EXACTLY!!!
Fascist gives people a bad name even if they’re not that bad like Mussolini or Oswald Mosley
No, he was
@@SubZero-hs9xc he was a glorified prime minister, the king was above him
But what do you want to know? You're not even Italian. He was assigned as Head of Government. Therefore dictatorship was
I love sidequest so informative hehe.
This channel needs more subs
Keep up the great vids! Your bout to explode, your vids are way too good for 3k subs!
Also how the American army recruited US mafia and made them officers, before the invasion of Sicily to recruit the local mafia into helping them. Making sure they were well compensated
We need this in Mexico
If you want to lives in a dictatorship i know there corruption in Mexico but rule by a dictator to defeat the Cartel is worst
@somna I saw many videos of mexican cops being killed and shit, they really need to destroy thé cartels
@@coreylevine3856 funny italian man before he met funny austrian man set his country on a good path
too bad he befriended austrian man though :(
3:10 "You can't be a totalitarian dictator if you can't totally dictate the entire country"
*1943 has entered the chat*
There are so many layers of grey here it’s like peeling an onion.
Always wondered what the word Mafia actually meant. Bravado is a pretty arrogant choice but it makes sense.
Vincere e vinceremo.
“One of the worst dictators in history”
Pol pot: hold my beer
Great Vito Corleone impression, you sound just like Brando!
Exactly how were the fascisti “corrupt“ or “illegal?“
They weren't
Liberal propaganda
He said they were legal and corrupt
They stood up to globalist
Mussolini did a lot of good, actually
7:22 Mori did not plant seeds for resurgence of mafia. The Yankees you did it when in 1943 you landed in Sicily with help of local mafia.
Nice documentary. The stress of "omertà" is on the last vowel tough. And the "central square" Mussolini had his speach at was Piazza Venezia :)
These videos are so incredibly good
Mussolini was definitely not one of the worst dictators.
doesn't really matter, he was still a horrible dictator. Whataboutism won't help him (nor anyone else).
@@8Smoker8 Characterizing him as "one of the worst dictators" is just misleading. He was bad guy, but compared to his peers Mussolini was absolutely tame.