700 GS in 110 Days | Week 4 - 655GS | Black Desert Online

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  • @MrJoemarV
    @MrJoemarV ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So this is how to play BDO efficiently, you have done way more progress than I’ve ever done in 2 years

    • @chrisjohnlajos2294
      @chrisjohnlajos2294 ปีที่แล้ว

      same lmao

    • @CacciatoreNero
      @CacciatoreNero ปีที่แล้ว

      it's more like how to be caried by rng the be efficent his drops are just nuts all over the place...

    • @MrJoemarV
      @MrJoemarV ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@CacciatoreNero perhaps, but he does play a lot. A player that plays 15-20 hours a day will have more rare drops than someone who only plays 5-8.

    • @Timo-Epis
      @Timo-Epis ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He has done more progress than me in 7 years haha

    • @ArcDevErik
      @ArcDevErik ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not "efficiently," He grinds 10 hours a day and gets paid to do it. It's not worth it unless you are getting paid for it.

  • @NestiusHD
    @NestiusHD ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love this series so much! Didn't even finish this one but I am already hyped for the next one! Much love

  • @auisthia
    @auisthia ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Lots of people complaining that it is unrealistic but you guys are forgetting what is the point of the challenge is,... obviously it is to prove that you can reach 700gs a lot faster and easier than before and with only low cost of irl money comparing to what's people saying that bdo is so much p2w vs other games.

    • @error1number404
      @error1number404 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      time or money, at least you can pay using time, cuz in some games progression focused on daily quests and u can not do anything

    • @neverending5316
      @neverending5316 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@error1number404 time gated content is such a weak way to force daily play

    • @silvershroud6263
      @silvershroud6263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is old player and got resources and ot of experience already. But for most new players its unrealistic as most new players can't progress this fast due to lack of resources and knowledge. For example i can't enhance for shit. I keep failing to make BS TET even with 190 fs. For old players this is possible but not for new players this not easy or this fast as he got it done. I reached 600 gs in 3 months lol. He grinding Gyfns lol. You know how hard is to find group for new players:/

    • @auisthia
      @auisthia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@silvershroud6263 This videos serves as reference to newplayers of what did he do to reach 700gs that fast and hopefully will be usefull to them to serve like a guide but for sure it will be longer to other like if you go awakening or kzarka you will have longer time progressing but will still be usefull as reference.
      If you watch his videos he don't really suggest enhancing for progression(he bought all his gear). And as i said in my 1st comment the challenge is to show that progression now is a lot easier than before. The guy literally shows you how to progress faster in 2023 yet you guys want to invalidate his effort.

    • @emperorpudding216
      @emperorpudding216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@auisthia Exactly, the debby downers that quit in like 2018 fail to see the point. This series is a demonstration and a resource for new players to utilize as a guide of sorts.

  • @TheRealSallin
    @TheRealSallin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a Pro damn, you've accomplished more GS in 4 weeks than i did in over a Year xD Nice to get so much info on how to progress more faster! Keep it up

  • @brandonkline167
    @brandonkline167 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this series

  • @CafeeTrago
    @CafeeTrago ปีที่แล้ว +4

    these series is so great bro, so inspiring

  • @caseyryback8151
    @caseyryback8151 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a relentless will to put effort for gains. Great video!

  • @Y4nkStyle
    @Y4nkStyle ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Right... Give me daily 12hour grind time and i will be there with ya choice.

    • @trinki8345
      @trinki8345 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      probably not

  • @maximilianguntert293
    @maximilianguntert293 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    choice for the fairies: brilliant and radiant fairys can be traded in for the t10 mats and they are i think 20 mil each. in case you didnt know :)

  • @Zippys01
    @Zippys01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is more impressive than the 20 second speed run of Elden Ring

  • @Jwalker1919
    @Jwalker1919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you are just too good at this game. keep it up

  • @johnstewart3251
    @johnstewart3251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you this video was way more clear on what you did for the week I appreciate that, you must have to be a streamer to play that many hours just going in circles, because that is sooooo boring

  • @Herravanrikki
    @Herravanrikki ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bros gonna catch my 12 month progress in the next 2 weeks. Smh.

  • @Skelyos
    @Skelyos ปีที่แล้ว

    Just going through these as I'm trying to get my gear up little by little & I'm trying to figure out where to go next (maybe not as quick as you though) & you mentioned the cloud acc could be exchanged for a different type, I've been smacking myself for getting the cloud necklace & the [season] Pen capotia necklace but now I can exchange it & get a free 3 AP very helpful!

  • @ThalorV
    @ThalorV ปีที่แล้ว

    You said 650m per hour at sycraia how? Can you calculate because with 2 drop its just like 450m an hour

  • @nikolalefterov7472
    @nikolalefterov7472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wtf man then im playing 2 years and being 632 gs kekw, u are dedicated nice :).. i cannot grind that hard like u

  • @samsolean
    @samsolean ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you make 800M an hour at gyfin i finished that book of agris and i’m too 281 AP & 348 DP & i only make 450M an hour at Upper Gyfin

  • @impegz5631
    @impegz5631 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sycraia atm good for Money ?

  • @GabrielSantos-vr8ro
    @GabrielSantos-vr8ro ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No Game No Life?

  • @zino2370
    @zino2370 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u pls explain to me how to get this agris coins ?

  • @thorgrin7680
    @thorgrin7680 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey choice! What sycraia rotation do you like best?

  • @junkazama1951
    @junkazama1951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Choice, just wanna say i love your content, and I have a question. Can you show your skill addons on next episode? I saw one of your addon video but it was like 11 months ago i guess, idk if you change anything but if you did, can you share for like 1 sec? Thank you.

    • @sayonara_elegy
      @sayonara_elegy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He showed his EU character's add ons on today's stream at 5:23:18 on the VOD, not sure if i'm allowed to link it. The VOD title starts with "EU 653 GS Zerker"

  • @Raiden_Factory
    @Raiden_Factory ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yo Choice! cool content, good information, great video (a bit short but it's ok) 👍

  • @emti29
    @emti29 ปีที่แล้ว

    30k tl in orcs with 285 ap. Thats crazy. I must be doing something wrong with my 305ap, i can only get 18k per hour. Thats with ls level 2, and a tent buff.

  • @KaskonV
    @KaskonV ปีที่แล้ว

    If you play week 2, 3, and 4 simultaneously... The intro is almost pitch perfect identical. It's so trippy but so satsifying

  • @zinqo8792
    @zinqo8792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great series.. What do you do with the extra Shards from Orcs? Just sell them to vendor or?

    • @OmniRich
      @OmniRich ปีที่แล้ว +2

      keep them for cup removal or for another cup

  • @Patteh01
    @Patteh01 ปีที่แล้ว

    you're a grind machine...
    I always manage to full buff and travel to spot, then I get bored after 10 minutes

    • @johnstewart3251
      @johnstewart3251 ปีที่แล้ว

      That mean the game just not for us 🤣

  • @stylixz3976
    @stylixz3976 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi choice, is it good using sub green accuracy weapon against Evasion player? with 293-297 AP?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      absolutely, it is my preferred offhand in most all situations now

    • @stylixz3976
      @stylixz3976 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice thanks, it kinda frustated against eva without some accu
      miss a lot

  • @wildcannon4437
    @wildcannon4437 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literaly copy paste all your items of this week in garmoth and its says 645 gearscore but you wrote 655?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      garmoth adds (ap+aap)/2 but as a succession class you should just add ap+dp since your awakening damage is such a small part of your overall damage

    • @wildcannon4437
      @wildcannon4437 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice oh i see i see i never thought garmoth does that

  • @excalibar5908
    @excalibar5908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video on how to do orc camp efficiently using berserker succession?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      you could watch some previous vods on my twitch channel, it shows how i do it :D

  • @Chisien
    @Chisien ปีที่แล้ว

    Choice if you're reading this, are you able to do all 3 dungeons on one character or do you have to switch
    what's the time limit for them?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes all 3 dungeons on the same character, and it's got a weekly lockout for the primary rewards on Elvia, but you can run it on a tag for a second time in the same week for normal rewards too if you want. It took us around 2 hours to do all 3 but it can easily be done in 1 hour if you speed run it

    • @Chisien
      @Chisien ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice Awesome, thanks alot :)
      by the way, I started my own pot piece grind cus of this series and as of 20 minutes ago I got my last piece

    • @Luc9Nine
      @Luc9Nine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice does this apply for solo mode too, or is it solo mode a 1 time only.

    • @jyggaswoop2774
      @jyggaswoop2774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Luc9Nine solo is one time for first time rewards. after that it becomes useless unless u want knowledge

  • @DK_Halibel
    @DK_Halibel ปีที่แล้ว

    what addons do you actually have?

  • @EphialtesTV
    @EphialtesTV ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask what is your drop rate on sycria I farmed 2 hours and got 8 black piece with %311

    • @jer123ish
      @jer123ish ปีที่แล้ว

      I think there is a bug where if your drop rate exceed 300, it actually reset. So you might wanna try keeping it at either exactly 300 or slightly less. See if that helps.

    • @Miragent
      @Miragent ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jer123ish i wish lucky people will share their "lucky number" for drop rate, since bigger not always better. But sometimes when you hit the right "spot" for the number it just drop everything lol

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am usually around 250% to 300% and I average 2 reds an hour. Sometimes I get none an hour sometimes 6, sometimes 1, but average 2.

  • @SuperTubecleaner
    @SuperTubecleaner ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. I just dont understand how u get 35k trash at orcs.... Garmoth website says its 15k average, and my top was 20k (lahn succ 297/402k)... my full agris last less than 30m there so its not that...what i miss?

    • @Miragent
      @Miragent ปีที่แล้ว

      with zerker when you have the buff, you will need to go to 3rd spot, since 2 spot only will be overcleared, also zerker can always spam 2 skills with 0 cd to kill 1 pack, has the best movement skill, no stamina needed. normal class nowadays should always get minimum 19k with only level 2 scroll, below that means you are doing the wrong skill rotation. Also Choice use his agris point for boss. And another thing is he (choice) uses the "agris coin" for 1h rotation, not the agris point from daily.

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As said by the other reply yes I'm not using agris points other than for the org, I am using an "agris coin" it's a 60 minute duration not a finite resource like agris points

    • @SuperTubecleaner
      @SuperTubecleaner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miragent Thank you, i ill try with zerker.

    • @SuperTubecleaner
      @SuperTubecleaner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice Thank you!

  • @jpikspiks2067
    @jpikspiks2067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bruh, my 3 years gear progression was only done in 4 weeks by Choice. 😂

  • @cannasif7594
    @cannasif7594 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro i have 274 ap 338 dp striker does zerk better than striker ? whats ur opinion?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      Striker awakening is similar in efficiency to succession berserker overall except for squishy mob spots in the early game.

    • @cannasif7594
      @cannasif7594 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice i can share pic of my cha item set if ı give me discord account

  • @Senira322
    @Senira322 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are an absolute unit

  • @zusako
    @zusako ปีที่แล้ว

    How many hours you grind a day

  • @N00bie666
    @N00bie666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reason you went pri labreska and not duo?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      i discovered that i can still hit 700 gs by getting a pri labreska and a exalted vell instead of duo labreska and blessed vell

  • @pedrobonaldo9033
    @pedrobonaldo9033 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos and your personality! Keep up, Choice!!! Cheers from Brazil :)

  • @oorangees
    @oorangees ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy out here making 1bil silver an hour after 4 weeks. And im over here snacking rocks making 600m an hour after 2 years

  • @julianosantana7357
    @julianosantana7357 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool, one thing you could done or still can do, outside this series, it's some videos of grinding on the spot, at least for me helps a lot seem a master of the class grinding =)

  • @KidBuuh
    @KidBuuh ปีที่แล้ว

    u didnt click helmet on duo ?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no in this series i am not enhancing anything, so i'll leave it at PRI. i don't need to get duo to reach 700

  • @itzbrilliant8386
    @itzbrilliant8386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i see, u have a lot of time to grind

  • @Miragent
    @Miragent ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this makes me realize how lazy I am how bad I have been treating my account lmao

  • @fuzzywuzzyworldz
    @fuzzywuzzyworldz ปีที่แล้ว

    Pop off king 👑

  • @ejespino344
    @ejespino344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can exchange t3 fairy for mythical feathers. i think its more expensive than honey wine :D

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      totally forgot about that whoops :D

  • @daye4174
    @daye4174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love black desert onlin ☺

  • @wtfwasthat16
    @wtfwasthat16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35k TL/HR..... holy im doing something very wrong at this place

  • @Cufu
    @Cufu ปีที่แล้ว

    Lesfuccin go baby keep troopin 😤

  • @shaax3639
    @shaax3639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm expecting past my 672GS next week 💀

  • @chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623
    @chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sadly, orcs in sea server is home of the pilots. you can never find any of the best rot empty in any server there.

  • @derekkim4947
    @derekkim4947 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy progress

  • @Leta_Mortique
    @Leta_Mortique ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been trying to follow the video as a guide and maybe follow in your steps but unfortunately I can't grind for the numerous hours you are able due to work but well done fun to watch video still.

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Due to the nature of a speed run it will be difficult to follow in my timeframe, but as long as you take it at your own pace you'll get there

    • @Leta_Mortique
      @Leta_Mortique ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice it's great to know what path to follow to and where to focus next on gear and items , obviously I just move at a slower pace 😂, I look forward to your next video hon

  • @Afreti
    @Afreti ปีที่แล้ว

    Here I am still fucking struggling to get pass 600 gs after 1 year of playing.

  • @Deathraki
    @Deathraki ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice update. Sea server next?😂

  • @YouWantSumMT2
    @YouWantSumMT2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To the answer of how he makes that amount of Silvers, it's just about the knowledge of the game. If you don't really know what to do or how to progress, just join a guilde who would spend that minimum amount of time teaching you the game. It helps a lot. as a Guild Master, we help new players, they learn rapidly the game through the massive amount of Knowledgeable things on BDO, we just give em what we do to progress, and we try to stay as much as objectives as we could.

    • @feroth4297
      @feroth4297 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what knowledge man ???? grinding sycra 20 hrs a day is knowledge ???? and after orcs ???

    • @jhondisjames2151
      @jhondisjames2151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bruh it's not knowledge lmao he just fucking grinds all day

    • @YouWantSumMT2
      @YouWantSumMT2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jhondisjames2151 Yeah Choice is a streamer, obviously he has nothing to do more in his life, but believe me that if you start the game with people teaching you everything, you'll go 700GS in 8 months

  • @w0m4nIz0r
    @w0m4nIz0r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, you should add to all these videos that it takes like 10h grind a day to reach these days. For me as a normal person that is not possible

  • @murk6sh
    @murk6sh ปีที่แล้ว

    For what choice gets in 4 weeks, takes me 14 months to get

  • @Fourty44Four
    @Fourty44Four ปีที่แล้ว

    We want new berserker guide with new crystals and new magnus skill can you please do this for us ?

  • @toutama9434
    @toutama9434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i realy enjoy ur videos but bro how the fk u hit my prograss in 3k hour in just 4 weeks lol

  • @christinehede7578
    @christinehede7578 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have managed to turn a game into a full time job. I am glad you are achieving what you want but that kind of stress is not for me.

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well i do stream full time, so it is a full time job for me, i do enjoy it though so at least thats a positive ^_^

  • @longhornfinch
    @longhornfinch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang it .. I am not first ..it was published 14 sec ago Sadge

  • @ether6521
    @ether6521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah

  • @betinhoarmando3508
    @betinhoarmando3508 ปีที่แล้ว

    16h play time every day and you can do it xD

  • @EwoRKS_Shaiya
    @EwoRKS_Shaiya ปีที่แล้ว

    so fast ma dude

  • @AsurajinYT
    @AsurajinYT ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo choice man, Go sleep!

  • @damiandamori
    @damiandamori ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont understand the trash at orcs. lol Im 297k and struggle to get 25k trash, as a striker

    • @zusako
      @zusako ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude same always get like 24k wtf how

  • @saulgravy6494
    @saulgravy6494 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take me under your wing and show me how to Zerk. Day 1

  • @wick3d007
    @wick3d007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy when you got 31 billion to start and to buy an armor that gives over 100 dp

  • @leena4314
    @leena4314 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just make 250-300 mill /h at orks with my witch =( no clue how you can get 1 bill :,( This Vids rly make me wanna cry and delete my account :((((

  • @Abololo33
    @Abololo33 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Rng carried" hi streamer lolololol...

  • @revelie4145
    @revelie4145 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abandoned Monastery is so underrated

  • @kowal6539
    @kowal6539 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you guys dont belive how he made that many money: he dont enchanted :) stop ecnhant simple solutuon

  • @dragonluxart7752
    @dragonluxart7752 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everything cool great progress buuuut this is the most unrealistic thing and time frame to achieve for nooormal player. This is borderline grind all day go to sleep wake up next day repeat....

    • @alex13121111
      @alex13121111 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      true, but you can just take the way he does it and do it at your own pace. he has some nice info on how to do stuff, what spots are good for his gs, how he progresses etc. he just does it faster

    • @nhifuu
      @nhifuu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      on top of the tier 2 guild shop

    • @ringlora2
      @ringlora2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i rouletted from 670gs to 600 and then lifeskilled for 9 months and got 702, just go your own pace, and you will do it.

    • @neverending5316
      @neverending5316 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ringlora2 exactly this game is not a race play at your own pace

    • @longhornfinch
      @longhornfinch ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a "Challenge" ... why would a normal player take part in a challenge.

  • @ModeKaioken
    @ModeKaioken ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IMO succ builds should be worse then awaken. It doesn't make sense to me that a spec with half the buttons and have the skill needed to play actually is often better and lets you skip out on awaken weapon prog all together. Like why even go awaken unless you just want to waste a bunch of extra money trying to prog the same as a succ.
    The game should be balanced so people want to play awaken over succ because it takes more skill to play and time to grind a full set is my main issue. Playing awaken at this point is more an act of showmanship then is it an economical choice.

    • @bevel404
      @bevel404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "The game should be balanced so people want to play awaken over succ" nice balance. Classic.

    • @Chisien
      @Chisien ปีที่แล้ว

      awakening doesn't really have more buttons.. it's the same inputs just you swap stances first.
      Also, succession classes tend to have alot of different properties and skills that act way differently in succ only

    • @oneshotkia5480
      @oneshotkia5480 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you even hear yourself? 1st of all succ builds still require a minimum lvl of awk weapon progression bc you gain like 30% hidden ap (or some kind of bonus) from ur awk weapon. 2nd there are very few classes where the conversation is simply succ>awk w/o a single debate. There are however some classes where its not a debate that awk>succ like guardian, valkyrie, warrior, etc. 3rd succ ninja gives arthritis vs awk ninja so easy so there's 1 example of "half the buttons and skill" being wrong. If awk was supposed to be guaranteed better than succ, then why even have succ in the first place LMAO awful opinion at least the way it is now its up to preference until it comes to PvP

  • @LL-ti7cn
    @LL-ti7cn ปีที่แล้ว

    Same guy sh*ts on TH-camrs for posting update content before he can get to it. Says it’s “low hanging fruit” for them. Crazy that someone putting more effort into something than you is getting a better return… yawn

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      I watch lots of update youtube videos, the term low hanging fruit isn't a diss, its simply just a fact for youtubers who post videos each day. I have done that before and its very difficult to come up with new ideas for videos each and every day, so therefore update videos are quite low hanging fruit when it comes to posting a new video that you know will do well and it's an easy topic idea for that days video.

  • @Edward-oj1gk
    @Edward-oj1gk ปีที่แล้ว

    how the hell did you get 285 AP with that equips

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      High caphras level on offin

  • @Edward-oj1gk
    @Edward-oj1gk ปีที่แล้ว

    this is misleading you cant get 285 AP with that trash equips you have

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My main hand has high caphras and is the same AP as a pen blackstar

  • @NatsuShiima
    @NatsuShiima ปีที่แล้ว

    how many hours do you grind per day ? you did more progress in weeks than i in around 6 years

    • @wildcannon4437
      @wildcannon4437 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said in first video that he will have to grind 6+ hours per day to reach goal

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  ปีที่แล้ว

      it varies by week, but for this weeks video i played 9 hours a day. usually stream 6 hours and then do 3 hours off stream. I know that most people cant play that much, but i am keeping an accurate log of the time i've spent so people can calculate how long it will take to make the same progress if they play say 2 hours a day.

    • @NatsuShiima
      @NatsuShiima ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImChoice Thank you for your response.
      Your videos actually give me new goals to set, since im literally stuck at pen boss gear and tet acc for almost 1 1/2year and did not know what to do next, eventhough it sometimes feel disappointing that people can reach that far in less years than i did