"Welcome to Berlin Motherf*cker!" | Derby Days Berlin | 1. FC Union Berlin v Hertha BSC
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In a city that has experienced the highs and lows of humanity from centuries of war and conflict to decades of cabaret and culture, the only thing it hasn’t seen, is a top flight derby. Well, at least not for forty years.
Until now.
Off the back of our insane trip to Superclåsico in Buenos Aires, Derby Days is back for season 5 and this time it's all about "The Wait". The intense rivalries between clubs from England to Germany to Italy that haven’t met for 7, 8 even 13 years. What happens to a rivalry when there’s an absence of meetings? Is it a case of absence makes the heart grow fonder or is the rivalry even more heated thanks to the anxious wait?
In Episode 2 we head to Berlin, as for the very first time in Bundesliga 1, the city’s big club Hertha Berlin, based in the West, take on the rising force of the East, Union Berlin. Just like the city, the two clubs share a contradicting, complex and storied relationship, unlike any other in world football. As a result this meeting always promised to be a special occasion both on and off the pitch. It certainly delivered.
A special thank you to Harris, Mike, Will, Anna, Steve, Uli, Micha and Daniel at HBSC, Hannes and Robert at Union, Olly, Barbara, Endi, Charlie, Daniela at the DFL, Roy and Gabe, Phillip, Mo & Peji at the courtyard Marriot and in particular Carim and Jacob. This film wouldn't be what it is without you!
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Which Derby Days do you want to see next?
Benfica and Porto or Benfica and Sporting
Russian derby CSKA Spartak
Gladbach Vs Cologne I don’t know whether it’s really spicy cause I don’t watch a lot of German football
TRABZONSPOR VS FENERBAHCE
The basque derby bilbao vs real sociedad
This is not a documentary about a football rivalry. This is a documentary about a city through the lense of football and I mean this in the best way possible.
Indeed, I wish they extended the one about the Hamburg derby this much
Totally agree, but to be honest : It's an artificial derby for marketing reasons. If someone listened to the history part closely, and complete it with historic times before the GDR/Soviet led dictatorship, Berlin has no rival culture against other parts of the city. Frankfurt or Cologne are the same. Union fans tend to be more ready to fight, as they actively fought against the East German fascist surveillance state 30 years ago, what is remarkable, and kept that spirit. Hertha is much more saturated. So if someone dislikes the city of Berlin, you need to know, that West Berlin is not similar and comparable to (old) West Germany, and just because you were born in East doesn't mean that you are lazy.
@@schwulerbaumgermane6249
"East German fascist surveillance state " you say.....
i could have sworn East Germany with its STASI police and survailance was thanks to the communists (Fascism went out of business in 1945 in case you somehow forgot about ww2)
@@dannythomson5239 Fascism and Socialism are more close than Socialism and Nazism, but when it comes to the general meaning: Roosevelts social-democratic super state, military government and communism are the same, with democracies less brutal.
@@schwulerbaumgermane6249
agreed.
i think we could also both agree communist socialism may sound good in theory but when put into practice it becomes particularly oppressive toward the people it is supposed to work for (thanks to human nature i.e. ambition and greed).
At this point, this is like 15% football documentary and 85% cultural documentary.
And it's fucking AWESOME.
I wonder how long they did edit it after completing filming it...must have been ages
It’s great. It shows football is part of the culture.
Totally agree, what a great documentary from copa90 through supporter point of view!
I love COPA90 so much
Lies again? Google Drive Face Book
"what's your stamina London man" LMFAO
LoL I clicked the video immediately
I thought he was an Aussie
"What's your stamina, London men?" Is just euphemism for "so how pure is your MDMA in london"...
Not high enough
Those Derby Days episodes actually deserve documentary awards.
Agree. This is really well produced
The Hertha guy is a stupid posing German typical here 😂
@@gotteskarmann1172 Was und über wen laberst du?
@@KingMori63400 Er beschwert sich über den Hertha-Rapper, der sich naja..verhält wie ein Rapper ;)
@@ParanoidMaster wusste nicht das er Rapper ist , ist ja noch peinlicher 😄
This documentary literally deserves all awards possible, this was absolutely brilliant.
Strange how you have 1.1 K likes with no replies... 🙄
I second this! Absolutely brilliant piece
This whole series deserves an award
Definitely now infants move to Berlin.
aggree...
I have lived in Berlin for 30 years. Coach as well in Kreuzberg. This is an absolute OUTSTANDING depiction of Berlin. Please submit this to award shows. The people you interviewed knew their stuff.
Absolute class.
@@mikeythapa5950 not every local berlin citizen knows all about the city and the history behind it :D because its just to much to have seen anything, the nightlife is outstanding .. im a local berlin citizen, born in berlin, and i didnt knew some things they said :)
Union Berlin fans built their stadium by their own hand...this shows great passion
Hertha Fans did the same in 45 at the Plumpe
@@ronnyleipold434 kfc uerdingen fans doing that now
Hertha Fans did the same in 45,as did other clubs in Berlin over decades
Hell yes I love my club. Greeting from Berlin. U.N.V.E.U
Union berlin renovated their current stadium to meet the requirement of 2 Bundesliga
‘What’s your stamina London man?’
As a northerner I love that
Harvey Holmes as a fellow northern, I share your love for that
Harvey Holmes southerners are pussys
As a Northerner you love kids
Dirk Kuyt Southerners like there sisters mate
Martin England fuck of you big Tory is northerners could fuck you up
I‘m a german and I can‘t believe what I’ am currently watching. It‘s literally marvelous how precisely do you analyze the historical and political background of this city and you generate a special atmosphere which is appropiate for this football culture in germany. I would definively say a german TV show wouldn‘t produce such a good video that contains all relevant aspects and is also quite powerful.
Also viele Grüße aus dem Norden von Deutschland, weiter so!
Unterschreibe ich genau so.
Indeed, it's insane.. the first five minutes serves as the PERFECT summary of Berlin culture and history. It's absolutely crazy how well made this is.
Stimmt, so oder ähnlich wollte ich es auch schreiben. Top job haben die gemacht, wohlgemerkt für nen TH-camr, anstatt nem hochbezahlten Öffi
Yeah. As a Berliner, I'd say it was quite to the point and accurate. The quality is comparable to the huge budget documentaries on Netflix.
One note for that English Berliner though: even though he looked very self-assured, Döner Kebap wasn't invented in Berlin. Döner has been made in Turkey for centuries and Kebap is like the general name for the Turkish dishes. What was invented in Berlin is putting the Döner in bread only, which was an invention to adapt to the hectic city life in which people don't have much time to eat or just eat "on the way - Unterwegs". This coming from a Turk, who has made quite some research on the subject :D
@@tolga9388 I agree with your reference to the quality being similar to a Netflix documentary. But a documentary about football doesn't need all that Netflix money thrown at it. It just needs passionate fans who know their history to speak as part of it.
How is this not a Netflix series?! This is a far better series then almost everything I’ve watched! Well done Eli Mengem, fantastic presenter clearly backed up by an amazing research team.
Would be a great series if it was backed by the likes of Netflix
Oh no please i want it to be available for everyone to see one youtube.
I know right, I love all these football series, just so addicting
Keep it free for all.
Best way to reach the 🌎 ⚽️ ❤️
fuck yeah...I can't believe they didn't toguht about making Ultras/Derby docu series and going worldwide... :)
Came for a football documentary, stayed for a whole ass German history lesson. This series needs to be picked up and streamed everywhere. This is amazing
I love the fact they took time to talk about the lower division clubs, brilliant stuff!
The third division in germany has plenty of old and traditional clubs, with ten thousands of visitors every week. Thats why we say that the third division in germany is maybe the best in the world. But tbh i dont know how the other third divisions are
YES FCK please they've had one of the best fans in the 3rd division
@@JiheonsTeeth thats my favourite clubs rival so f*ck em :D but if you are interested in that watch this, in September we had our first derby against FCK after 18 years, 40k people came!! So its worth it to watch this th-cam.com/video/BFuBo7dPeeg/w-d-xo.html
@@dreddd7980 68 bleibt loyal longa ♥️
Barnaby Hands yeah man it’s great and it’s really nice how the fans themselves made it possible for union berlin
"What's your stamina London man "
😂
Damn, I was born in Berlin and I am living here for 37 years now. And everything that I would say about this wonderful city, was in this Video. I think everybody who watched this Video, felt a little bit like a "Berliner" for a moment.
It's a masterpiece.
That has to be one of the best football documentaries i've ever seen
Is there one thing we o well in Britain it’s tv documentary’s
Watch River vs. Boca - Derby Days
"This city has seen everything: wars, plagues, Russians" Lmfao
😂
He says "Prussians" btw
@@swagcube5050 Prussians and Russians are different things. Berlin had both
Thats not true they still didnt see the "Meisterschale"
Russians are cool
So eine heftig geile doku lange nich gesehen im fussballbereich
Lukas Horsthemke sie ist schon echt gut aber sie ist mir ein bisschen zu schnell, alles wird immer gecuttet der dude läuft im gesamten Video lol und es ist einfach ein bisschen zu hektisch
@@Internetprolet1312 wie Berlin halt ist.
No idea what any of this says
@@charliedronfield5835 same
@@Internetprolet1312 dein denglisch geht mir auf die eier ;)
18:08
Every union fan ever
I‘m from germany and seriously I‘ve seen so many documentaries about the fall of the Berlin wall in history lessons, but this is kinda the best and definitely the most catchy documentary about this topic i‘ve ever seen!
one of my favourite European cities brought to life through the lens of football. Sick.
Sick
I thought the Hamburg-Derby was great video of german Derbys, but this is perfect. The music, the camera, the editing, the interview partners (great to see harris again), etc.
Good Job.
Ich hab von harry seit jahren nich gehört und ihn hier zu sehn war einfach mega
This may be the best episode of Derby Days. While this derby hasn't had a long standing tradition like most derbies covered in the series it serves as documentary about Berlin's history as well as its diverse football landscape in lower divisions. Tremendous work!
I agree fully with your comment. Hertha won the derby today 3-1 btw. This city stays blue & white!
I come from Spain, and I must say.... ICH LIEBE BERLIN!
Schön das du da bist ☺️
Yo también... Und bin auch in der Stadt und seine Leute verliebt!!!
And we love you!
U love this video not berlin bro
Berlin liebt dich nicht
From a Berliner: Wow this is extremely well done!!
Isso komme zwar nicht aus Berlin sondern Stuttgart aber beste Stadt der Welt
Berlin ist das größte Shithole Deutschlands. Ein Paradies für Kriminelle (Politik, Banden & Straßenkriminalität), Gentrifizierung, Hipster & sonstiger Menschlicher Abfall. Verrottet und Unmoralisch, Werteverfall vom aller feinsten. Alleine der Slogan der Stadt sagt schon alles: Arm aber Sexy.
Die ganze Stadt ist voller Touristen, sogar die dort lebenden sind teils nichts anderes als Touristen.
Die Stadt ist zugemüllt, vollgepisst und vollgekotzt. Wirklich nicht worauf man Stolz sein kann, die Berliner tun's aber.
Einer der wenigen Metropolen der Welt, die mit Geld gefüttert werden muss da es A) nicht damit ungehen kann und B) selbst sogut wie nichts erwirtschaftet.
de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/71763/umfrage/geber-und-empfaenger-beim-laenderfinanzausgleich/
Einfach nur absurd und Peinlich für so eine Metropole und Hauptstadt eines wirtschaftlich so starken Landes.
@@klauskleber6844 ja mit deinen 0 likes sind ja viele deiner Meinung
Altho i dont get it. Are they both left sided?
@Harald Krull Sonare they both mixed?
Haven't been this excited for anything since the Portsmouth episode
I am Salvadoran American with family from Berlin, a El Salvador. This game is actually followed in our small town Founded by Germans 100 years ago.
More than a documentary, this is a master piece, you just have to love it.
Derby days: best thing on TH-cam!
That's wild they both gave the FIFA analogy lol
39:05
Amazing
A lot of the similar lines are probably very shoehorned in. They probably had leading questions that were edited out to get similar answers .
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's just good documentary rules. But not every interview is going to be unscripted.
This is probably the best football documentary I've ever watched, I have just had a history lesson, so well put together by all involved.
The English guy wearing glasses would be the perfect tour guide, his knowledge of Berlins history, music, politics, culture and football is very impressive.
This deserves awards as some of the other comments correctly say too.
Thank you, really enjoyed that.
2000: Hertha played in the 2nd Group Stage of the Champions League while Union were champions of the Regionalliga Nordost.
2023: Union about to play their maiden season in the Champions League while Hertha are in the 2. Bundesliga.
This funny old game of ours, I love it 😁
As a Brit, I love Berlin. Such an amazing city. Having been twice the one thing I’m yet to do there is watch a football match. I took home a Hertha shirt from my first visit so they would be the team I would go to watch if I went, but I respect Union all the same.
Go to a big game like BVB or Bayern vs Hertha, the Olympia Stadium is so huge that it is not always sold out.
I love Britains
Irish person who went to Berlin and got a hertha top and was wearing it when I found the video
Been to Berlin twice as a Scot. Went to Hertha Berlin vs Werder Bremen, good game great atomsphere but all my Berliner friends talk about is Unions atomsphere. Go to an Union game as it's a smaller stadium with more real berlin fans.
No respect for Urine!
The moment I heard Union Berlin was promoted last season. The first thing I thought was you guys covering The Berlin Derby
7:30 "If you define culture (as) being about success and being about titles and being about numbers and industry, fuck off" WELL SAID THAT MAN
My team won nothing in my lifetime my dad's lifetime and grandpa lifetime. But we still love our Club
Berliner here: Congrats, well done, you nailed everything! Very knowledgeable guys you picked there. I am impressed!
After 8 Minutes of watching this, I have to say, this truly is a masterpiece!
after 8 mintues i went to bed and watch the full episode :D
I‘m a supporter of Hertha BSC. The Film was amazing. Perfect analysing of both fanscene. Keep the work up!
My school went to Berlin when I was in the 7th grade and our teacher bought tickets for a Hertha vs OB game at the Olympiastadion. That sparket my passion for football even though my school was no where near Odense (and both teams wore blue/white lol)
It's so sad that Bayern did play at this stadium but in front of no fans. That must've been heart breaking.
More than 3 years later we don't have a Berlin derby anymore... but this time Union is playing in the CL while Hertha was relegated... unbelievable! xD
This series honest to god is the best series on TH-cam right now. The level of creativity from these guys is epic. Keep up the good work!!!!
From Berlin, couldn’t agree more. Great research, insane effort. Deserves way more attention
As an expat living in Berlin, this documentary gave me an awesome overview of my city. And I don't mean a mere football overview, but a complete one. There's history, there's culture, there's football, there's everything. Marvelous.
This is not just a documentary. This is fucking ART!
I went to Berlin earlier this year and immediately I noticed flags/graffiti/stickers for Hertha and Union just about all over the place. A really fascinating place to visit, cool video
Class again from Copa 90
When are we going to see the south Wales derby though
reckon next year
Who’s that?
Big pp Cardiff vs Swansea
@@blueblood110 never höörd
Hopefully
This guy is hell of a journalist. I am from Argentina and I love his documentaries. I would like to have sport journalists like him in my country, instead of the idiots we have.
i am a hertha fan,iam from berlin,but i live almoust all my life in brasil,argentinna,best football country in the world,
@@ronnyleipold434 journalists are bad though
This made me start my FM Hertha save, 12 years in and 8 Titles 2 Champions Leagues 6 Finals appearances 6 DFB POKALS
And a Ballen D’or winning German Striker who was the World Cup top scorer at the heart of the team
Can't believe this stuff is for free, Thanks Copa90
I've been living in Berlin for 25 years, I am really impressed by this….piece of art! It is really accurate, well researched, well done.
Derby Days are some of the best docs on TH-cam, but this one just raised the bar to unbelievable heights. This is absolutely world class stuff and should have every kind of award thrown after it!
I'm sad to see that the younger supporters are leaning into a hateful rivalry rather than a friendly one, because there is already so much tension and hate in football. Just imagine how beautiful it could've been if both Herta and Union stayed up in the Bundesliga with a friendly rivalry where they met as friends, despite being in a city that has been divided for so many decades!
i am 62 and i hate union
i am a hertha fan and 62 its not just the younger generation who hates them
I don't hate Union. I'm 50. I'm somewhere in the middle of it. I had good chats with a bit of back and forth friendly banter with Union Fans ( the only unsympathetic fans were some of the younger fans online and a young female fan in the S-Bahn who acted like Herthafans were worthless peasants and Union is a superior Club who looks down on Hertha (that was in a time where both clubs played 1.Liga). And both clubs had to deal with problems. Union in the GDR as the red headed stepchild of the GDR and being held down by Stasi General (?) Erich Mielke in favor of his favorite club BFC Dynamo, Hertha in recent years for being the Big City Club and having an Investor. Sometimes it was just outright unfair being labeled as the Great Big Bad and Union as the lily white hero when it wasn't all black and white, rather grey. That's the reason why I don't hate Union, but I'm also not totally fond of them.
It's insane how undervalued these Derby Days are.
Really hope you guys get your deserved attention.
Fun Fact: the Rapper representing Hertha narrated the german version of FIFA Street
I think FIFA street 02 (?)
The quality of these productions are just brilliant. Well done to all involved.
This is better than anything on TV right now
One of the best videos or documantaries about the current footballscene. Thank you all for the hard work that must had going into this vid. It‘s nice to see you people how you‘re actual interested in the story behind this derby without painting it all black or white. Thanks for showing all the grey tones.
This is genuinely one of the most captivating enthralling pieces of entertainment I've ever seen. Copa 90 has come a long way! Please keep this up! Eli is a natural.
And I thought I will lose my interest after the superclassico😂😂 brilliant job
Spent the last 12 weeks going through each derby days episode and have to say that they are utterly superb, i would love to see more in East Germany, England, Italy and Netherlands once football for fans returns. Keep up the great work these have got me through lockdown.
I’m currently signed ill off work, and this is the perfect mix of football, history, culture, and IMMACULATE filmmaking I needed to help me through. Thank you guys! Subscribed, and can’t wait to watch more.
Officially the best series on TH-cam. Every episode is better than the last. Keep smashing it Copa fam!
Now this video I can hardly wait for. I am starting to take much more notice of Union Berlin cause they seem like they have a soul still despite being in top flight football. And that is just so rare to see in these days.
Thats why so much people in Berlin doesnt like Union. Union wants to present theirselves as a unique club, as a "workersclub". So many people find it so annoying
@@snssssns409 See that statement is not really true. It's mostly the media portraying us that way. We don't care about that though, we just wanna support our team and enjoy good football.
Thats the reason why Union is so hated. They always betray themselves to be this "cool and alternative" club. And they can't stop talking about how they build their own stadium for example even though 99% who brag about it didn't do anything. When Union were in the second/ third league they weren't special at all. Hertha is the real club in Berlin.
JakeStanleyTravel Union is still the number one in Berlin ;)
@@Uhrensohn289 Union (Köpenick) doesnt count to Berlin. Köpenick is part of Brandenburg
This is one of the best videos of I’ve ever seen about football, but even more so about Berlin. Beautifully done, host/creators/producers!
Guys i dont write comments ,but that was one of the best episodes you ever make ,great job to find this people who give the interview, they was really on point and give as perfect picture,also to talk about culture and history really dive you in and make you think about it and even you start wonder which team you will support ,awesome. Cheers to everyone involved.
2/2 didn’t think they could have a documentary better than the Hampshire derby . 10/10 again by copa 90 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.
Eli, I've been a fan since Red Star v Partizan. You outdo yourself each time. This is the first of the Derby Days where we got a history lesson, a rundown of practically every football club in the city, and oh yeah, the burgeoning derby between Hertha and Union. Fair play, my man. You're becoming a legend on here.
Dude. I'm not even into football just got fed this by the algorithm, this is legit one of the best original videos I've seen on youtube. fucking good work to everyone that worked on this.
I'm Scottish but I love union berlin and I chose to support german football over Scottish football not only because of how amazing the culture and the fans are but also how friendly they are and it saddens me to think about the possible antagonistic future of berlin football culture.
Union Hippster Club
Honestly possibly the best series on the entire platform. The production on every episode is fantastic and every time this show manages to create such an immense feeling. In awe of it. Thank you Eli and Tino!
Was waiting for this. It's finally here!
honestly the edits you guys do for these derby days is incredible, keep it up, it's so intresting, not just because of the football...
This is one of the most interesting videos I’ve seen on TH-cam in a long time, excellent work all involved.
11:24
"We don't want to, we don't need to. We make our money *begins to look around* ... Different"
Haha lol
The past two episodes really have gone up a notch video wise. Well done guys 👍
As someone who has only really gotten into football in the last year or so, i am honestly in awe of the production valu here! Bravo Copa90, you guys and girls have honestly created a great channel!
Can’t believe they all mentioned the airport 🤣😂
My god, what an amazing content! 49 minutes of pure pleasure. Much love for all you guys creating these masterpieces again and again.
Also can't wait for you to go out and make some stuff on our Moscow derby stories.
The camera work in the Derby Days episodes is just amazing.
A completely brilliant video, so much more in depth and nuanced than I anticipated
this docu is probably one of the most entertaining ones ive ever seen. great work.
This episode was great, the history part of Berlin was most interesting to me as I've only heard of it fromn teachers. But to actually hear from the citizens of Berlin was just special. I've been watching Union in the Bundesliga this season and they are actually quite a team to watch. Respect to Copa 90 as once again made a very great episode of Derby Days.
This is fantastic. Real football, unlike the sanitised version you see elsewhere, passion, true passion, true Berlin.
The soundtrack really captures Berlin also.
What an incredible introduction of Berlin. The first five minutes is such an intensive description of Berlin. I was born in Berlin and i am living here over than 30 years now. I never felt so proud to be a part and a resident of this city. Really great job. I watched "İstanbul United" before and i think i will watch much more of your clips. Keep going.
Stopped by as per recommendation from Joe at Tifo before watching his conversation with Eli and Martino. Absolutely brilliant. Looking forward to viewing more of these stories.
thanks for showing us Berliner football culture ! I had no clue of all these clubs, history and culture ! That's awesome that's real football :)
cheers from Paris
An incredible video perfectly portraying how how a city such as Berlin is steeped in football and history in a beautiful / crazy symbiotic way, I love these videos man!
My German friend sent me here, and I am very glad he did. Very interesting subject made even more so by the people involved in the discussion. Some great writers and pundits involved. Love it.
Eli, you and the team do a fantastic job with these docs, thank you.
I really never comment on videos. But this video, the editing, the music is just perfect!!
So well researched and produced. It was a pleasure to watch. Thank you.
Hard to believe that this was made for TH-cam and not a major television broadcast... Just wow. Taking TH-cam documentaries to a new level! Thank you for this experience!
So out of this video, finally a Tasmanian football club playing in the German Division, GREAT!!! Forget A League, just stay playing in Germany.
Tasmania has actually nothing to do with the Island. There are dozens of german Clubs called like this.
@@joni_sge1135 you don't say Sherlock
Tasmania are legendary to every Bundesliga fan. just 10 Points in 34 Games! 2 wins 4 draws 28 losses in the 1965/66 season! Total noones, but still, in their first game that season, they had 81,000 fans watching them in the Olympiastadion!
Joni_SGE
Good going Mcbain
That’s the Joke
@@joni_sge1135 Bollocks. Tas actually is one of a kind in Germany. There are no other clubs named Tasmania in Germany.
The guys who started the club wanted a cool sounding, exotic name and Tasmania was the place farthest away from Berlin they could think of.
This is what a build up is like, the pace of this Derby Days is incredible you go from the Football diversity in Berlin to its history and building slowly back by adding Football relatet History events. And then go back to the Derby. And Eli really builds the emotions up and the needs to watch it till the end. Just wow! Much Love for all Contributers to this great Documentary.
I just came to see how the first Berlin derby came along and what i received was a full documentary and historical explanation of the city and how a rivalry was born. I totally LOVED IT! What an amazing video!
There's a lot to be mad about youtube and google these days but then you find channels and videos like these and you just have to be grateful. This has made my day. Thank you!
This is absolutely amazing. Thank you for putting this out
Ever since I turned on my first ever Derby Days Episode Years ago, I have been looking forward to this episode and it turned out GREAT! Greetings from Munich, a whole different world compared to our capital.
I watched this one in PE theory class(of course in a shool near Berlin), and came here to finish watching, and i have to say, that the chanel is the one, i never knew i needed!
I'm binge watching every one of these . So far they have all been awesome!