This old sailor deeply appreciates your 6 star general video. Since the Army, Navy and Marines were created in 1775, I would like to see each of our now 6 branches have a 6 star general or 6 star admiral. I would also like to see various off planet military officers who have helped humanity be awarded honorary 6 star rankings.
Good video! It makes sense...GW would be senior officer by date of rank, then Pershing & Grant 3rd...perhaps Gen. March's case should be reconsidered...he would then be #4...
Washington is the senior officer by law, the date of rank just emphasizes the point. If Congress didn't date Grant's promotion to make him senior to Pershing, they should have. Traditionally, postmortem promotions are at least backdated to the date of death. Finally, the important issue is that the generals of the armies are senior to the generals of the army. The same is true of Dewey and the WW2 fleet admirals. The insignia and pay grade of the highest rank only become important when a serving officer is promoted to that rank.
I believe that Marsh should have been allowed to keep the rank. But there should be consideration for MacArthur, and Eisenhower. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs should have the 5 star rank since that position is senior to all the other generals.
In my mind, George Washington should be ranked. The general of America’s generals will always be one star ahead of everyone else, and it should be the only person to hold the title general of America’s generals
As Supreme Commader for the invasion of Japan Mac Arthur was to be formally awarded a six star rank as he would have had at least 2 five star officers under his command. This was "shelved" when Japan surrendered. Had this happened, he would have been the only general to be given a true six star rank, the official title of which would have been "Six Star General of The Army".
"Six Star General of the Army" is not a thing. In order for it to be so, Congress would have to pass an Act establishing it. I can find no reference to any such plan for MacArthur. Seniority amongst the five star ranks was established by their dates of commission. MacArthur was second to George C. Marshall. As part of Operation Downfall, command was split - MacArthur had command of all army and air forces, Nimitz had command of all naval forces.
@@daniel_sc1024 Keep reading. MacArthur was to be appointed to a six star rank, officially "six star General" as opposed to General of the Army or General of the Armies, which was reserved to Pershing and later Washington. Mac Arthur BTW, was in overall command of Downfall and as such was senior to Nimitz (Navy) and Arnold (AAF), hence the "need" for a sixth star.
@@1999glock We both stand corrected. HAD Operation Downfall gone ahead, MacArthur would have been placed in overall command. But at the time of the planning MacArthur was not in overall command. And there was consideration of promoting him the previously created rank of General of the Armies (not "six star general"). Even though it is senior to the five star General of the Army, technically the General of the Armies is not a six-star rank as no insignia has ever been designated for it. A General of the Armies is allowed to create their own insignia; the only person who achieved that rank while alive was Pershing, and he wore four gold stars (instead of silver) and a gold eagle. And even though two additional individuals have since achieved the rank (posthumously) insignia for General of the Armies still hasn't been created, only conjectured. It's possible some future living General of the Armies could create an insignia without any stars.
Well, he didn't deserve it anyways so good to know that it never happened. All he did in the Theatre was to introduce the "island hopping strategy". It was performed by two legendary Smiths and Chester Nimitz. If it wasn't for them, this strategy could've failed. MacArthur is glorified for no reason, but maybe except building post Japan which was highly good.
I've read just about everything military and WW2 related but I've not heard of this promotion for MacArthur. It does bring up a very interesting situation. If MacArthur was made a General of the Armies, then would he outrank his boss, Army Chief of Staff and General of the Army Marshall? I recall after the first Gulf War, there was talk of making General Schwarzkopf a five star General. That was circulated in the media, who apparently don't understand the military. During an interview with someone reporting this proposal, the question was asked if General Powell would be given a fifth star, as a theater commander can not outrank the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Have the branch commanders wear a 4 star. Have the chairman of the joint chief's of staff wear five star. And if there's a world war have whomever is supreme allied commander wear six star.
It was written that no other officer of the U.S army should outrank. Does that mean in theory that a officer from another branch of the armed service Navy, Air force, Marines, Space force could be promoted to a 7 star & out rank him
Why ? An armchair bureaucrat who never saw a shot fired on a battlefield. Spent the entire war in Washington pushing pencils and issuing orders. A great chief of staff and strategist but never commanded troops in battle.
@@1999glock I mean given that he was responsible for the US having the strategy and resources to win WW2 and he was above all the other 5 star generals. I think it's fair.
@@1999glock Where is it written that to be promoted you must fire a shot in battle? Marshall deserves every bit of praise for his contribution. In addition, I don't recall ever reading about MacArthur firing any shot in battle during WW2.
@@stevedavis3527 Thank you for your reply. Mac Arthur was awarded several CBI's (Combat Infantry Badges) as he saw combat on numerous occasions. That is well documented. As I pointed out, GM was indeed a great general and will be remembered as the key strategist in our victory both in Europe and the Pacific. I simply pointed out that as an officer he never saw combat, nor did Eisenhower. Mac Arthur was a front line "soldier" who exposed himself to enemy fire hundreds of time.
@@1999glock I do appreciate the friendly banter. You never answered my question about where it is written that a person must come under fire to be promoted. Being brave and awarded medals is only part of being a soldier. MacArthur didn't fire any shots in WW2 as I believe his last combat would have been WW1. You are obviously a big fan of MacArthur, I am a big fan of Marshall. Perhaps we leave it at that.
U.S. Grant was postumastly promoted to 6 star General of the Armies @ 2 years ago . Time to do the Same for MacArthur. Perhaps George Marshall as well but no more afterwards.
The baddest General of all time was a war version of self confidence and poised position who decided the Japanese fate on that great day son.. American Red, White, Blue *******
No he really wasn't. There's only 5 star generals. General Persian was head of the Armies 🪖 at that time. He was only a 4 star general but he was General of the Armies. 5 star came in WWll
This old sailor deeply appreciates your 6 star general video. Since the Army, Navy and Marines were created in 1775, I would like to see each of our now 6 branches have a 6 star general or 6 star admiral. I would also like to see various off planet military officers who have helped humanity be awarded honorary 6 star rankings.
General Washington should forevermore carry the highest rank of 6-star. All others should be subordinate.
Good video! It makes sense...GW would be senior officer by date of rank, then Pershing & Grant 3rd...perhaps Gen. March's case should be reconsidered...he would then be #4...
Washington is the senior officer by law, the date of rank just emphasizes the point. If Congress didn't date Grant's promotion to make him senior to Pershing, they should have. Traditionally, postmortem promotions are at least backdated to the date of death. Finally, the important issue is that the generals of the armies are senior to the generals of the army. The same is true of Dewey and the WW2 fleet admirals. The insignia and pay grade of the highest rank only become important when a serving officer is promoted to that rank.
General Marshall for Holly's good works during World War 2 and.
Post World War 2 thank you.
Great content. Go Army!
I think you are also missing General of the Armies U. S. Grant. December 22, 2022 was the date of promotion to honor his 200 birthday.
Don't forget Admiral of the Navy Dewey. Is it possible one could argue that his rank was higher than Fleet Admiral (five stars)?
It is more than possible, it is the reality. Dewey's rank is equal to that of Washington, Grant, and Pershing.
Very interesting and you cleared up a lot of confusion and mis-conception. Washington should always be the highest-ranking General Officer - ever.
3:00, Did you note the approval date, it’s October 11, 1976, NOT October 11, 1776.
Douglas MacArthur can also receive promotion to General of the Armies
I believe that Marsh should have been allowed to keep the rank. But there should be consideration for
MacArthur, and Eisenhower. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs should have the 5 star rank since that position is senior to all the other generals.
I think, but am not sure, that is why Bradley was awarded a Fifth Star. I never thought he really earned it.
In my mind, George Washington should be ranked. The general of America’s generals will always be one star ahead of everyone else, and it should be the only person to hold the title general of America’s generals
5 Star was commander of U.S. and allie forces. 6 Stars would be for the FEDERATION OF PLANETS. But that is for another time.
Blessings to the generals who have served America.
As Supreme Commader for the invasion of Japan Mac Arthur was to be formally awarded a six star rank as he would have had at least 2 five star officers under his command. This was "shelved" when Japan surrendered. Had this happened, he would have been the only general to be given a true six star rank, the official title of which would have been "Six Star General of The Army".
"Six Star General of the Army" is not a thing. In order for it to be so, Congress would have to pass an Act establishing it. I can find no reference to any such plan for MacArthur. Seniority amongst the five star ranks was established by their dates of commission. MacArthur was second to George C. Marshall. As part of Operation Downfall, command was split - MacArthur had command of all army and air forces, Nimitz had command of all naval forces.
@@daniel_sc1024 Keep reading. MacArthur was to be appointed to a six star rank, officially "six star General" as opposed to General of the Army or General of the Armies, which was reserved to Pershing and later Washington. Mac Arthur BTW, was in overall command of Downfall and as such was senior to Nimitz (Navy) and Arnold (AAF), hence the "need" for a sixth star.
@@1999glock We both stand corrected. HAD Operation Downfall gone ahead, MacArthur would have been placed in overall command. But at the time of the planning MacArthur was not in overall command. And there was consideration of promoting him the previously created rank of General of the Armies (not "six star general").
Even though it is senior to the five star General of the Army, technically the General of the Armies is not a six-star rank as no insignia has ever been designated for it. A General of the Armies is allowed to create their own insignia; the only person who achieved that rank while alive was Pershing, and he wore four gold stars (instead of silver) and a gold eagle. And even though two additional individuals have since achieved the rank (posthumously) insignia for General of the Armies still hasn't been created, only conjectured. It's possible some future living General of the Armies could create an insignia without any stars.
Well, he didn't deserve it anyways so good to know that it never happened. All he did in the Theatre was to introduce the "island hopping strategy". It was performed by two legendary Smiths and Chester Nimitz. If it wasn't for them, this strategy could've failed. MacArthur is glorified for no reason, but maybe except building post Japan which was highly good.
I've read just about everything military and WW2 related but I've not heard of this promotion for MacArthur. It does bring up a very interesting situation. If MacArthur was made a General of the Armies, then would he outrank his boss, Army Chief of Staff and General of the Army Marshall? I recall after the first Gulf War, there was talk of making General Schwarzkopf a five star General. That was circulated in the media, who apparently don't understand the military. During an interview with someone reporting this proposal, the question was asked if General Powell would be given a fifth star, as a theater commander can not outrank the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Was R.E. Lee a 5 star?
General Patton would have been a six star General. But during the Korean War General MacArthur was the ACTIVE DUTY FIVE STAR GENERAL.
Technically no other future GoAoUSA CAN be senior to Washington; time-in-grade stipulations in military seniority protocols already provide for this.
Have the branch commanders wear a 4 star. Have the chairman of the joint chief's of staff wear five star. And if there's a world war have whomever is supreme allied commander wear six star.
It was written that no other officer of the U.S army should outrank. Does that mean in theory that a officer from another branch of the armed service Navy, Air force, Marines, Space force could be promoted to a 7 star & out rank him
Ike probably should he was in charge of the allied forces and to take control of the Egos involved in WW2 had to be Hell
Interesting
George Marshall should get that rank
Why ? An armchair bureaucrat who never saw a shot fired on a battlefield. Spent the entire war in Washington pushing pencils and issuing orders. A great chief of staff and strategist but never commanded troops in battle.
@@1999glock I mean given that he was responsible for the US having the strategy and resources to win WW2 and he was above all the other 5 star generals. I think it's fair.
@@1999glock Where is it written that to be promoted you must fire a shot in battle? Marshall deserves every bit of praise for his contribution. In addition, I don't recall ever reading about MacArthur firing any shot in battle during WW2.
@@stevedavis3527 Thank you for your reply. Mac Arthur was awarded several CBI's (Combat Infantry Badges) as he saw combat on numerous occasions. That is well documented. As I pointed out, GM was indeed a great general and will be remembered as the key strategist in our victory both in Europe and the Pacific. I simply pointed out that as an officer he never saw combat, nor did Eisenhower. Mac Arthur was a front line "soldier" who exposed himself to enemy fire hundreds of time.
@@1999glock I do appreciate the friendly banter. You never answered my question about where it is written that a person must come under fire to be promoted. Being brave and awarded medals is only part of being a soldier. MacArthur didn't fire any shots in WW2 as I believe his last combat would have been WW1. You are obviously a big fan of MacArthur, I am a big fan of Marshall. Perhaps we leave it at that.
General MacArthur would’ve been General of the Armies if the invasion of Japan happened and the General Pershing wore 4 Gold Star
U.S. Grant was postumastly promoted to 6 star General of the Armies @ 2 years ago . Time to do the Same for MacArthur. Perhaps George Marshall as well but no more afterwards.
George Washington, by act of Congress, is the highest ranking US military officer.
I think Dwight D Eisenhower, Chester Nimitz and MacArthur should also be granted the size star rank
MacArthur? Eisenhower? What did they do apart from introducing strategies which could've failed if they didn't have the best officers under them? Psst
The baddest General of all time was a war version of self confidence and poised position who decided the Japanese fate on that great day son.. American Red, White, Blue *******
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Simple answer. No. The highest level giving was the 5 stars.
Pretty superficial. You're playing word games.
Six of one, half dozen of another.
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No he really wasn't. There's only 5 star generals. General Persian was head of the Armies 🪖 at that time. He was only a 4 star general but he was General of the Armies. 5 star came in WWll