Muslim Personal Law Above The Constitution? : The Newshour Debate (25th March 2016)
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I am an Indian born in a christian family..// But I am an Indian first and and accept all laws as per Indian constitution, not Vatican law!!
KUDOS to Arnab for atleast bringing this issue to this platform...
#OneNationOneLaw
+Aditya Negi While he did bring up an important issue, I think we should follow the suggestions of the Muslims who agree that the current form of giving talaq in one sitting is wrong while triple talaq over a period of time is a valid form under the Quran. The idea was to give 3 chances for reconciliation. The fringe argument is that while the talaq in single sitting is wrong, once a deed is done it can't be taken back and hence a divorce under triple talaq is valid. The ideal reply to that should be what if someone said 4 talaqs which would break their flimsy argument that talaq depends on the number 3.
+Aditya Negi its all about TRP man , he is TRP slave
+Dabendra Singh lol, he chose very good issue for debate
+Aditya Negi #OneWorldOneLaw
As being an Indian Muslim I would like to see India in one Constitution, we don't need Sharia law..., We have number of religion in India, as being an Indian we need to follow what others following. We don't want make one more Saudi Arab in India. India is my country I love my country. Prophet Mohammed said "Hubbul watani nisful eeman" it means Loving one's homeland is a half part of Iman.
"JAI HIND"
+Syed Muzzammil I agree with you man. A country with this level of diversity can only be controlled by one law and not by any religious law for that matter. Lets accept a Law which does justice to everyone without any discrimination based on sex, race or religion.
great
kya baat hai.
salam
+piyush joshi yes we should accept our Constitutional law....!!!
+Syed Muzzammil if you are really muslim and tell that from your heart then we all are proud of people you.
Best solution to get rid of this shit.... leave Religion.
I'm proud I'm Ex Muslim
Salute u my bro..Me too an Atheist.
dear bro can u plz define that what is this ex Muslim,
if your ex or mex good for you don't advice other's everybody has brain, let them use it and act finally they will reveal who they are.
+Dennis thanks Bro
Cheers!!!!
+saqib jamal bro I left the cult part of Islam.
I take what's beneficial n truth n leave what is harmful for humanity.
unlike I was believing in all aspects of Islam.
hats off to "times now " for bringing this debate.
U r Correct.... buddy
uniform civil code is the only sollution for this problem..! every citizen must follow the constitution..! constitution is above the religion..!
+ali ammar syed And you belong to the medieval times for criticising what he said.. dimwit! Have you EVER wondered why the Islamic world is in a free fall? It's because of blind adherence to stupid rigid dogma which is incompatible with the modern world.
For you the constitution may be above the religion but for Muslims its not below religion, but it is after the religion.
+Aqueel Shaikh that's why you will always be looked upon as 2nd class citizens
+Aqueel Shaikh india is first...
Aqueel Shaikh That is the reason Islamic nations are continuing to fall behind non-Islamic nations, despite their massive natural resources like oil. Not our loss!
Kudos to you Arnab Goswami way to go, I commend you for this debate.
you mean commend..
ARNAB SIR, NO OTHER CHANNEL BRINGS GREAT NEWS LIKE YOU... THIS IS THE BEST DEBATE
1 Nation 1 Law
not logical need to reaserch the reality sis.
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/nov/10/sex-is-monogamy-dead
+Aparajito Basu I couldn't agree more. As far as religion and laws are concerned they're two different things. We can change law anytime but can't change religion, So laws should never be based on religion.
Angelo Immanuel Where does the quran says that??
quran chapter-4 verse 34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allah), and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). Regarding the woman who is guilty of lewd, or indecent behavior, admonish her (if she continues in this indecency then), stop sharing her bed (if she still continues doing this lewd behavior, then), [set forth for her the clear meaning of either straighten up or else we are finished and when she returns to proper behavior take up sharing the bed with her again], but if she returns in obedience (to proper behavior and conduct) then seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.”
Let me begin by explaining the English language is not powerful enough when it comes to translating the meanings of the Arabic of the Quran. Nor for that matter, is any other language on earth. So, all we have is translations of meanings according to the best understanding of the translators.
The operative word in this verse in Arabic is "daraba." While there are literally hundreds of uses for this word varying from "tap" to "walk in stride" to "strike at something" to "set a clear example", the only meaning that can be assigned to something in the Quran must be according to the rules of Quran. And Allah has used the same word a number of times with a consistent meaning. Let us examine them.
Here is what we find from the scholars of the Arabic language:
Daraba (to have intercourse, not to beat)
Raghib points out that darabametaphorically means to have intercourse, and quotes the expression darab al-fahl an-naqah, 'the stud camel covered the she-camel,' which is also quoted by Lisan al-'Arab. It cannot be taken here to mean 'to strike them (women).
Chapter-78 verse 33 says believers who guard themselves against evil will
"Companions of equal age" it does not say men will get it or women will get it.
Hindus openly worship cock and pussy we don't son.
+Javed Shaikh If U R Stay in India....I will suggest let the decide by Supreme Court....Already Our Muslim sisters put File against it....because 1 country diff for Hindu, Muslim, Jeus, Shiekh not possible....which is Hearting National Interest
+Aparajito Basu yaar what kind of argument is this? I've said I support "1 Nation 1 law" I was just putting forward a view same as yours, why are you Hackling me? I say again that laws can never be made on the basis of religion that's it. Supreme courts main toh 25 years plus se yeh ladai shuru hain.
Congratulation to Mr Arnab G. Very good debate. Only thing, Times Now should have invited Mr Sanjay Hegde for his views on personal law!!!
Aum Shanti.
Arnab has got balls to speak his heart out, which most media houses avoid to do (who may be romantically attached with some political party, in his own words).
We need more of such informed discussions.
"Talaq in EMIs" - Good wit right there.
100% for Uniform Civil Code.
+steelnerve
Quran
Chapter-10 verse 19
And mankind was not but one community [united in religion], but [then] they differed. And if not for a word that preceded from your Lord, it would have been judged between them [immediately] concerning that over which they differ.
20. And they say, "If only a miracle was sent down to him from his Lord." Say, "The realm of the unseen belongs to God; so wait, I am waiting with you."
21. When We make the people taste mercy after some adversity has touched them, they begin to scheme against Our revelations. Say, "God is swifter in scheming." Our envoys are writing down what you scheme.
22. It is He who transports you across land and sea. Until, when you are on ships, sailing in a favorable wind, and rejoicing in it, a raging wind arrives. The waves surge over them from every side, and they realize that they are besieged. Thereupon they pray to God, professing sincere devotion to Him: "If You save us from this, we will be among the appreciative."
23. But then, when He has saved them, they commit violations on earth, and oppose justice. O people! Your violations are against your own souls. It is the enjoyment of the present life. Then to Us is your return, and We will inform you of what you used to do.
24. The likeness of the present life is this: water that We send down from the sky is absorbed by the plants of the earth, from which the people and the animals eat. Until, when the earth puts on its fine appearance, and is beautified, and its inhabitants think that they have mastered it, Our command descends upon it by night or by day, and We turn it into stubble, as if it had not flourished the day before. We thus clarify the revelations for people who reflect.
25. God invites to the Home of Peace, and guides whomever He wills to a straight path.
26. For those who have done good is goodness, and more. Neither gloom nor shame will come over their faces. These are the inhabitants of Paradise, abiding therein forever.
27. As for those who have earned evil deeds: a reward of similar evil, and shame will cover them. They will have no defense against God-as if their faces are covered with dark patches of night. These are the inmates of the Fire, abiding therein forever.
28. On the Day when We will gather them altogether, then say to those who ascribed partners, "To your place, you and your partners." Then We will separate between them, and their partners will say, "It was not us you were worshiping."
29. "God is sufficient witness between us and you. We were unaware of your worshiping us."
30. There, every soul will experience what it had done previously; and they will be returned to God, their True Master; and what they used to invent will fail them.
31. Say, "Who provides for you from the heaven and the earth? And who controls the hearing and the sight? And who produces the living from the dead, and produces the dead from the living? And who governs the Order?" They will say, "God." Say, "Will you not be careful?"
32. Such is God, your Lord-the True. What is there, beyond the truth, except falsehood? How are you turned away?
33. Thus your Lord's Word proved true against those who disobeyed, for they do not believe.
34. Say, "Can any of your partners initiate creation, and then repeat it?" Say, "God initiates creation, and then repeats it. How are you so deluded?"
35. Say, "Can any of your partners guide to the truth?" Say, "God guides to the truth. Is He who guides to the truth more worthy of being followed, or he who does not guide, unless he himself is guided? What is the matter with you? How do you judge?"
36. Most of them follow nothing but assumptions; and assumptions avail nothing against the truth. God is fully aware of what they do.
really admire Arnab for conducting and raising such a good point
I have a problem with these people saying yeh Allah ki kanoon hai. As if they have dined with Allah.
One nation one law
hat's off to TIMES NOW
I want to see this debate in NDTV BY Bokha dutt.
hope smday maybee..when she no longer remains "secular"
+Raj Naik she will shit in her undies before doing such stuff mate.
+steelnerve I m fully agree with U
+Raj Naik bitch BDUTT Congress tout and lives on middle east payroll
Debdip Ghosh
nope she gets her booty from Madam Sonia. Radia tape clearly proves that.
please Indian Muslims be modern, logical and rational,,, you are best Muslims in world
+Ashu Krishna logical people of muslim never comes in front of these type of people who propagated the theme of religion is first and may nation is after that or may not be also. This is core issue of discrimination of woman in this society.
Dear Muslim Sisters of Muslim community, Please stand up and fight injustice. Make your lives easier. For a man you are most important. Women have more power. Please correct the practices and lead a just and peaceful life. Best of Luck. The whole of Indian Nation is with you.
Hats off Arnab
The problem with our Muslim brother's is that when it comes to matter of Islam or Kuran they forget all the basic logic. Bro don't be blind ...use ur brain.If Allah wanted to make us follow some rules ...He/She could program our mind like that.But Allah gave us brain so that we can think and analyse and take decision on the basis of logic . Please grow up.
+Kuch bHi gd statements bro
ONE COUNTRY ONE LAW
Yesssss. Waited for this one tooo long Times Now. Only you people have the guts to challenge every religion not Only Hinduism like NDTV, Rajdeep and Barkha
+mrXX cool stupid arguments for stupidest people ....
+mrXX cool Brain washed ... Ha ha
It is for you ...
You know about Jammu&Kashmir's constitution .....
You know about our reservation system it is based on religion ...
Then how you say one nation one law
+mrXX cool Indian law already follows quran.
+mrXX cool Mohammad(saw) honoured by supreme court of USA in 1935 as one of the GREATEST LAWGIVE OF THE WORLD.
DO U KNOW MOHAMMAD(SAW) introduced most laws which are used in INDIAN CONSTITUTION?
it was mohammad(saw) law which was put in our constitution like banning robbery,gambling,drinking,rapes,murder,dowry system etc.
He Has gone mad
A Brand New Fan of Arnab Goswami.
Good Goin brother.. Keep it up!
We need more nationalist journalists like Arnab.
Bharat Mata ki jai, Vande Mataram, Jai Hind!
Uniform Civil Code must be enforced soon....
Hindu/vedic darshanas (sanskrit term for vision or revelation of nature of ultimate) are well validated by quantum physics. It is the reason why vedas cannot be deleted or added with anything new. Smrithis are also based on vedic darshanas but it was distorted by colonialists and their evangelists. So called sati was practiced only by few tribes in bengal and rajasthan but colonialists propagated it as an hindu culture. Sati numbers increased only after invasion of foreign theologies and its suppression of natives or infidels. Flexible Jati was also distorted by colonialists and their evangelists to create rigid caste system by merging flexible jati with misinterpreted varna system which talks about color of human qualities rather than skin color.
Theologies ( Judaism, Christianity and Islam ) are worse than western definition of philosophy which does not require embodied experience and has ego. Laws written based on theologies (judaism, christianity, islam), ideologies (communism) and western philosophies (hedonist or one dimensional material pursuit or materialism and new world order) have to be thrown into the dustbin.
Why only muslims have problems anywhere?? India also has minorities like Sikhs, Christians, Jains, Buddists etc.. They are actual minorities. There are living happily with Indian rules without any complaints and demands.
Just make one amendment, whatever rights are given to men are to be given to women, all these intellectuals will start to understand the problem.
vishal naidu very well said
Indian constitution law is most important, and any law is made for civil society should be respected and follow, some people want to argue and hold power using religion name to defend their own bullshit.
Well said sir its very good that peoples from muslim community are saying this openly and suporting indian constitution over muslim's personal law board.
If muslims need their personal law than buddhist should have their own law hindus their own law jain should have their own law christians their own law jews their own law and India should close down all courts
are you Jew sir??
my friends from Syria, Afganistan n Yemen are laughing after hearing Imaam sahab....I think people need to grow up..and stop this injustice to the poor women
Thanks Arnab for bringing such topics on NewsHour Debate. Only request is to have an expert on the topic you are debating. In this debate, both parties- for and against are not fully aware of divorce in Islam. I would suggest you to invite people like Dr Zakir Naik who is well known and widely followed.
change the personal law - only if it STILL allows men to have 4 to 5 wife's.
one nation one law
All Laws based on any religion - Hinduism, Islam, Sikhism, Christianity etc. should be banned, unless they are limited to recognizing certain societal conventions like validity of marriage under a particular religious practices.
A lot of people don't understand what a Shiv ling is supposed to be. Shiv ling, if you ask some Hindus of faith, represents Shiv's head and the tied up hair, which suggests that Shiv is in a peaceful state of mind. The flowing water, represents divine river Ganga, which was to help him remain composed. Shiv unties his hair, to prepare for tandav, the destruction of worlds, universe. No practicing Hindu actually has a statue, or a representation of Shiv which actually has Shiv with his hair untied and prays to it.
The misinterpretation was a British thing, which was to denigrate Hinduism. I mean we Indians, hindus wrote Kamasutra. Do sane people not think that we could have perhaps not represented a male female union in a better manner? Why have the river Ganga there if it is only a union of Shiv and Parvati? Is it a manage-e-troi?
I hope people read this, and start using this counter to any idiot who suggests that Hindus are penis worshippers.
Hats off to you Arnab
I want my own personal law board. lol. this is a joke.
+Angelo Immanuel it's not problem what is written in a book. it's the idiots outside who have been conditioned to follow every letter in the book.
the conditioning happens when you are a kid. Stop religious teachings to the kid.
+Angelo Immanuel Okay so your saying Quran said all this I agree totally not gonna argue about it. I can give you n number of similar examples in the Bible but I am quoting only 2:-
Genesis chapter 6 verse 1 to 4:- sons of God & daughters of humans
Genesis chapters 11-14 and 19:- Story of Lot & his 2 daughters
I m not gonna quote them in details u have the luxury of Internet you can check that out yourself. The point that I m trying to make is, such types of verses are present in all the religious books. It's time that we keep religion aside and think logically.
I don't know whether it's your personal agenda to bash Islam or your suffering from dyslexia (by posting same comment time and again). At least try to read complete books whether it's Quran, Bible, Geeta etc, try to learn abt the situation when these comments are made. Don't just rely on propaganda videos
And one more thing If you want to reply, reply only once. don't just copy paste the same thing in everyone's comment section. It makes you look even more stupider than you already are.
Javed Shaikh Hey there is no agenda. It's one of those conspiracy theories that almost every fanatic believes. Fanatics of relugion, caste, language, culture etc all believe that other have an agenda to target them. But in reality it's just the "Confirmation Bias".
Yes you are right almost every religion has bad parts. These bad parts exist because the religious text were written with the cultural influence of that time. It's one more proof that texts were created by man and not God.
But my friend almost all religions are progressive and have given up on the bad parts. For instance a worst practice like "sati" system is no longer practiced among Hindus. But the trouble with Islam is that there is a violent moral policing within the community. My friend if you are logical person and argue logically with the members of Islamic community criticising any religious text it will not be tolerated. Because unlike other religions, Islam behaves like a cult and going aginst the prevalent practices of the cult will not be tolerated.
Many many intelligent and logically thinking muslims are leaving the religion. No nobody is motivating them to leave. When they read the Koran with a logical mindset they could not agree and wanted to get rid of that religious tag.
Being born in a religion is incidental but universe has given you the power of thought to choose...
+Sameer Siddhanti 1. Agreed my friend on "Confirmation Bias", But I argued with that guy because he was treating religion as Dick measuring contest, who's got the biggest one LOL.
2. As far as 21st-century religious practices are concerned, I m a vegetarian myself do I even have to put the point forward. The point I'm trying to make is that every religion has such outdated practices but we don't look at our self and starts pointing fingers towards others.
3. And I totally agree that as other religions are moving forward with the time Islam is getting somewhat medieval, but for that you have to look into History our modern Society is merely 150 years old, and mind you most countries outside Europe never had renaissance If we were not occupied by the British we ourself would have struggled to cope up with the new world.
4. As far as radical Islam is concerned you have to give credit to two things:-
a. Books by Sayyid Qutb
b. And the so-called "Western World"
First one is the godfather of all terrorists whether it be Osama, Zarqawi and many others they got inspired after reading his books.
Second one you would say that I m playing Blame game I'm not, hear me out first tell me even a single Instance before Iran crisis about Islam being intolerant you can't. Islam never Started any world war if you study modern history you would clearly see that how a mujaheddin in matter of few years becomes a Jihadist. they have never allowed middle east to settle Down. And people like you who are well educated never question that it's pretty sad but it's the truth. I could tell you many more but for the instance give you a small example USA always condemn Iran for Human Rights violations but doesn't even have balls to question Saudi Arabia you know the reason why.
5. Cult following do you think all Muslims think the same way. Answer me this why then after ISIS occupation many Muslim choose to leave Syria. Islam is followed by 1.6 billion people they all think very differently you my friend are generalizing.
6. Last point abt logical Muslims (personally it's their choice if they want to leave religion it's fine with me) I won't say anything against them. But for me logical Muslims are those who try for the betterment of Islam people like Raif Badawi (USA will never fight for his freedom) Organization like Muslim Satyashodhak Mandal who are fighting for uniform civil code it's a pity that such organizations are never highlighted by western media. I'm telling you my friend Islam is not the problem the followers are.
Javed Shaikh Thanks for inputs. I agree with you for the most parts. Yes you are right Saudi is definitely favored by US. We all question it on the relevant forums.
Every religion is nothing but a bunch of stories to control the masses. It is a form of delusion that most of the humanity finds solace in. Very very few people are cured of it during the lifetime.
Its high time that we changed our perspective of identity of a person based on religion. Morals that come from religion are often skewed. Its time that being in Uniform Civil Code so that people are no longer judged based on their delusion.
Only answer me the following question. According Islam a woman has only half value compared to male.
1. Don't you consider it as social injustice?
2. If a poor girl is born in Islam, why should she suffer this injustice?
3a. Tell me can a person be atheist and still be a Muslim? would the community tolerate it?
3b. My friend wears a Hanuman pendent. He is a Muslim. He has stopped going to mosque because he has been thrashed and thrown out of a mosque twice. Is there not place for a Muslim in Islam who also has faith in some of the Indian Deities?
4. A Muslim in Bangalore opposed the construction of a mosque as it would disturb the peace in the locality due to the use of loudspeakers. He was killed in broad daylight in front of his children. And the family was asked to apologize to the community? Is this justice?
5. Finally if Indian Muslims do not have believe in the concept of Islamic dominion, then why is it that we find almost all Indian Muslims supporting the cause of Palestine and hate Israel. Where as Israel is a friend of India and I have not seen many Indian Muslims supporting Israel?
And BTW in most cases of Palestine/Israel conflict, Israel would have acted in retaliation not as first offense. Nobody blames Palestine's next door neighbor Jordan for not supporting them.
6. During the refugee crisis why doesn't refugee apologists condemn and ban Saudi which didn't support any refugees?
7. Being a progressive Muslim do you enjoy the freedom to openly criticize the moral character of Muhammad the founder of Islam and question concepts of Islam?
Contrasting against Hinduism - Male and Female are equal. Except for the fringe groups, no social moral policing. One can be an Atheist and still be a Hindu. And one can visit mosque/church and still be a Hindu. One can be non-veg, drink and still remain a Hindu. One can renounce everything and become a fakir. One need not pray and not moral policing. When citing out the identity, a Hindu generally doesn't restrict his identity to religion. No religious texts, no religion, no prophet. Nothing is unquestionable. All criticism is okay. And Hindus generally judge based on fairness of a spiritual leader irrespective of his caste/religion - Shri Mumtaz Ali, Sai baba to name a few.
Amazingly superb topic for debate. Way to go..
"One Nation One Law" - India is in dire need of Uniform Civil Code..
*Many religious apologists say that their religion is perfect but there is misinterpretations of religions..... However in reality there is no misinterpretaion of religions. The interpretations are correct but now we will have to misinterpret it to make it more peaceful*
You should've invited Zakir Naik who can recite quran forward & backward. If he refuses to take the challenge, you should announce it to the viewers. Viewers would look forward to it.
+Latha Baradwaj Zakir Naik is a LIAR, as has been proved time and again.
Sowjanya Kaushik That's why I said people'd love to hear him in this discussion panel. Liars can sometimes make the discussion interesting.
Latha Baradwaj
Indeed, you are right. Have you watched the TH-cam video where Zakir Naik is STUPIDLY defending Prophet Mohammed's decision to marry his own Daughter-in-law ???
He was arguing that Allah had Pre-Destined that Zaynab-bint-Jahsh would first marry the Prophet's Son and then Marry the Prophet and it was Allah- who injected Love ( LUST) into Mohammed's mind....... BLAAH BLAAH BLAAAH
+Latha Baradwaj ...are saint or insane?
+Latha Baradwaj zakir naik cannot preach in india..he was banned.. btw islam is dangerous..
ONE NATION ONE LAW..
+steelnerve
Quran
Chapter-10 verse 19
And mankind was not but one community [united in religion], but [then] they differed. And if not for a word that preceded from your Lord, it would have been judged between them [immediately] concerning that over which they differ.
20. And they say, "If only a miracle was sent down to him from his Lord." Say, "The realm of the unseen belongs to God; so wait, I am waiting with you."
21. When We make the people taste mercy after some adversity has touched them, they begin to scheme against Our revelations. Say, "God is swifter in scheming." Our envoys are writing down what you scheme.
22. It is He who transports you across land and sea. Until, when you are on ships, sailing in a favorable wind, and rejoicing in it, a raging wind arrives. The waves surge over them from every side, and they realize that they are besieged. Thereupon they pray to God, professing sincere devotion to Him: "If You save us from this, we will be among the appreciative."
23. But then, when He has saved them, they commit violations on earth, and oppose justice. O people! Your violations are against your own souls. It is the enjoyment of the present life. Then to Us is your return, and We will inform you of what you used to do.
24. The likeness of the present life is this: water that We send down from the sky is absorbed by the plants of the earth, from which the people and the animals eat. Until, when the earth puts on its fine appearance, and is beautified, and its inhabitants think that they have mastered it, Our command descends upon it by night or by day, and We turn it into stubble, as if it had not flourished the day before. We thus clarify the revelations for people who reflect.
25. God invites to the Home of Peace, and guides whomever He wills to a straight path.
26. For those who have done good is goodness, and more. Neither gloom nor shame will come over their faces. These are the inhabitants of Paradise, abiding therein forever.
27. As for those who have earned evil deeds: a reward of similar evil, and shame will cover them. They will have no defense against God-as if their faces are covered with dark patches of night. These are the inmates of the Fire, abiding therein forever.
28. On the Day when We will gather them altogether, then say to those who ascribed partners, "To your place, you and your partners." Then We will separate between them, and their partners will say, "It was not us you were worshiping."
29. "God is sufficient witness between us and you. We were unaware of your worshiping us."
30. There, every soul will experience what it had done previously; and they will be returned to God, their True Master; and what they used to invent will fail them.
31. Say, "Who provides for you from the heaven and the earth? And who controls the hearing and the sight? And who produces the living from the dead, and produces the dead from the living? And who governs the Order?" They will say, "God." Say, "Will you not be careful?"
32. Such is God, your Lord-the True. What is there, beyond the truth, except falsehood? How are you turned away?
33. Thus your Lord's Word proved true against those who disobeyed, for they do not believe.
34. Say, "Can any of your partners initiate creation, and then repeat it?" Say, "God initiates creation, and then repeats it. How are you so deluded?"
35. Say, "Can any of your partners guide to the truth?" Say, "God guides to the truth. Is He who guides to the truth more worthy of being followed, or he who does not guide, unless he himself is guided? What is the matter with you? How do you judge?"
36. Most of them follow nothing but assumptions; and assumptions avail nothing against the truth. God is fully aware of what they do.
It is a discriminant law. Why can't the legislators vote it out?
yeah ! i also support "one nation , one law " !!! and it should be implemented !!
We all Indians should come on Roads in Millions of numbers to support Uniform Civil Code. BJP is the only party which can Impose this Law. So today we have chance to get Uniform Civil Code. We Indians should force BJP to Impose this law. So my all Indians please stand for Uniform Civil Code #OneNationOneLaw
+Prince Sagar before doing so, go and protest against appeasment laws like COW protection law and hindu personal law. dont be hypocrate
huma khan
Uniform Civil Code is not a law of Religion. If Uniform Civil Code Imposed in this country then there is no Religion based things in there. Not about Cow and Hindu Personal law and also not your Islamic law.
+Prince Sagar so go ahead and ask to demolish hindu personal law and cow protection law as well. y dnt u do that and prove that u r not hypcrate
huma khan
No Need to Demolish. Uniform Civil Code will Demolish that law. So support Uniform Civil Code. I already told you there is No Cow Law, no Hindu Law in Uniform Civil Code.
+Prince Sagar which country u r from when u say there is no cow protection law and no hindu personal law??? google it, dont be ignorant
Muslim kitani b saadi kare.... sab theek...
hum kare to jail m daal do...
useless rule
+Mohammad Shadab I agree, one country one law.
Indian Muslim women have some feeling to express themselves but sharia ko manane wale isse vote bank se jorkar rakhna chahten hain. We also the against the Sharia Law of triple talak methodology. All fast growing muslim country wants the equality of man and woman . Turki is best example of them.
Off all religions Islam makes no sense at all. They Quran then they another book and another book... Then personal court of their own.... This is common in every single religion. These so called religious experts in every religion are the only ones defending it's practices....bcuz they make a living out of it.
These mullahs got plainly exposed !
phir bhi dil hai pakistani.. phir bhi dil haiiiiii.. pakistani.
#OneNationOneLaw I support the Uniform Civil Code! I think the UCC should be brought into effect and these personal law craps should be scraped. The laws that say that women can inherit only one half of what the men can and those that place men above women in many other aspects should be replaced by the uniform civil code. Jai hind!
Hats off to TIMES NOW and Hats off to Arnab Goswami...!
Its like there are 2 qurans . Men version and women version . Lets plz call dr zakir naik and ask him . What i personally feel is the women should have equal rights irrespective of what any religion has to preach !!!
Kudos to Arnav for demolishing misconceptions
Modi Govt should allow Sharia only in matters of worship in Islam. Rest everything should come under common Civil Code. Those Mullas who do not agree with the common Civil Code should be welcome to migrate to any muslim country which follows 6th century laws. There should be no compromise on common civil code
Arnab now you are on right way. I appriciate you.
When others say Maulavis are interpreting Quran in wrong way., Arnab says ' Yes Yes' .
as if he has read Quran :D.
His only line of argument should be that in a secular country we should have same law irrespective of what Quran or other books say.
I like Arnab's balls really. No other journalist in the world has balls(I'm not talking about honesty etc.) as huge as Arnab
Those who dont want to follow Indian Constitution can go to place where they can follow where it has been followed there are many countries for this. One country One law should be there... No double standards.
Law is right if it is implemented correctly, law is not right if people try to implement it blindly without understanding of the situation and conditions of application of a particular law for a specific scenario....i am immensely disappointed by the scholars who were sitting there that they didn't even utter a word of proof or strong arguments for what they were pleading for...Arnab is totally sane to say that no law should be against humanity but at the same time i am disappointed by the lack of research on Quranic and text of ahadeeth from Arnab's side...it seemed to end no where in a conclusive way as no one put the technical arguments related to the issue...it was just humanity, peace, shariah but no practical example...
Simple Solution = Convert in to another Religion....................................
I plead with you to update and/or repost this truth where you can. This Truth is not Easy to find, the way it was before. I am not certain why, but it feels like the Truth is being hidden. I thank you for this video, I truly had to look for this
Arnab you are simply great. Kudos to you. Unfortunately our Muslim brethren have blind confessions. Now it should change. Yes common civil code is a necessity. Our Muslim sisters can live in peace.
great arnanab !!!
one nation one law
We should also consider removal of stating religion and caste from all official documents, 5 years down the line, no one will know which caste or religion the other person belongs to.
One India One Law, coz some of us believe in equality and justice. No separate law for any religion, be it Hindu, Sikh or Muslim. Religion is personal choice, religion should not interfere with state, civil or criminal matters.
Sharia and freedom cannot co -exits
I am slowly becoming a fan of Arnab
+Gautam ramesh He's really coming forth for some important issues unlike other 'neutral, sickular, pseudo intellectual' journalists of India. Kudos to him.
my Muslim brothers...we should fight for a change in constitution laws!!! we men..be whatever religion...should fight for our equality in law..not in religion but in sex!!!!
No wonder, many intelligent women are leaving Islam.
Uniform Civil Code.
good work arnob.
EVEN ANIMALS EVOLVE WITH TIME AND CHANGES THERE BEHAVIOUR AND HABBITS ACCORDING TO CLIMATE AND GEOGRAPHY BUT FOR SOME CULTURES ALL WORLD IS ARAB AND ALL LAWS ARE OF ARABIC AGE SO WHAT IF WE ARE LIVING IN INTERNET AGE SOME 1500 YEARS AHEAD...RIP LOGIC
Well Done Arnab. Its a very good debate
Title is wrong... :D Title should be : Who has the right Koran ?
one rule one nation.. wow.. nice thing,, let Arnab to talk on reservation... no reservation for anyone, All should be considered equal. At least Arnab give equal chance to talk.
justice must be done to everyone irrespective of his or her religion or caste or gender or race etc ,,because everyone deserve the Justice
#Respect and justice for everyone
This man has balls.
it is about time...that men come forth against laws that are full on in support of women... a rapist takes bail and goes free...but a good husband fights for years and still stands to loose in a case of legitimate divorce!!!
There should be same law for all in India or anywhere else, no one citizen should be treated different than the other, the Holy Quran has always been the guiding force for civil and penal laws based on the time and place, should not be in force everywhere.
Is this the way a debate is conducted in Indian media?
Why is there Sharia for marriage only?? then let them suffer the extremism in Sharia ...chop off hands if u commit theft...and other extreme laws...I know nobody will then go for it...
Good to hear this debate
There should be One Nation and one Law -- this is common sense --
Yes If some Law pertaining to Divorce needs to be improved and refined by the Supreme Court of India,It has the right but Supreme Court,being highest Court of Justice of every Indian Citizen,shall obviously appreciate Consent and recommendation from Muslim Jurists of all over India.
bjp & amit shah thinks it get votes of muslim women in up. but they don't know general muslim women are very satisfied with their rights. hence it is sure bjp will loose in u.p.
why in constitution did not considered initially.
As I understand neither in past nor in future Muslim will vote to BJP. So this instance will not affect thr vote bank...
syedmoiz uddin kya baat kar rHe ho janab...apne andar nahi aur dil pe hath rakh kR bolo
Women seem present well pointed arguments and issues, where as the Imams present a medieval and one sided arguments.
kudos.....arnab
Is it not appaling that A muslim woman is not allowed to work,not allowed for rumineration and just left for nothing after a man in his anger quotes" talaq talaq talaq"?
I like Dr. Zeenat Shaukat Ali.. to the point with facts..
The solution to this problem is very simple.
All Muslims that are willing to accept Indian Constitution as Supreme Law should stay in India.
All Muslims that want Islamic Sharia Law to reign over Indian Constitution should pack their bags and head to Islamic Nation.
India is a Secular Democratic Nation, You may want Sharia Law but please dont force it on rest of Indians. We dont want it. So either, Accept Indian Law or move to an Islamic Nation and enjoy your life ! Simple as that.
if this so then y keep changing rules for ur benifits, y beef ban, ok cow is mata then y bull ban ok bull has become pita then what about bhais it shud also be having some relation may be mausi so stop slautering that too, oh it will be after few years when no issues will come around, all bull shit, if cow is mata then stop being slautered in america europe too, waha bolne k liye gaand main dum nahi hai yeh sab political chutiyapa hai thats all, mind ur religion y sharia is bothering u all people, v dont interfere, stop abusing others see ur self theres a lot too bother among ur self ther is so much discrimination among ur self chut achut, harijans cant come to temple for worship y y they r not human beings v never stop anyone to pray in mosque weather he be begger or rich.
***** ha politics to hai par public pagal hai na jiska fayeda politician utha rahe hai, jo policy angrez chod gaye divide n rule aaj bhi yehi ho raha hai beef ka naam lekar kabhi hindu rashtra ka naam lekar crore rupey k guple scandal daba diye jaate hai , public chutiya hai kya kare.
jihalat se ek waqt mai teen talaq dena islam na pasand karta hai na k qobool nhi karta.islam mai talaq ka issue extremly serious issue hai.talaq ek saat teen de ya teen stages mai de...it is applicable.Bt d recomended way is to gv in three sessions.teen talaq jo mard apni wife ko de yeh islam mai na pasand hai n hum sub log iski muzammat karte hai...means v dnt encouraged it.bt v vl support islamic laws where tough it is not liked bt acceptable n dz nly makes d triple talaq issues more sensible n serious issue.muslum personal law board must appeal our government to gv punishment to those who are practising this way of giving talaq.bcz dz is very bad way of giving.bt yeh tareeqa bura hai n by d grace of Allah every body is gtng dz point.To eradicate or decrease the triple talaq in our country which is nt evn liked in islam muslim personal law board should decide wht punishment is to be given to the commiter n should appeal to gov to gv implement dz punishment.Sonchne ke baat hai hamare mulk mai knifes se ketne murders hote hai n internet se ketni buraiya phelti hai kya hum aesi he knife use karne p n internet use karne p band laga sakhte hai.yeh kaam jo jahil hai ya jo criminal hai vo he karega n jail ke hawa kha a ga na.waise he yeh qanoon allah ne banaya hai.yeh allah ke muslihat hai jo allah ne triple talaq at one sitting bhi applicable rakha bt with unliked na_pasandeeda n triple talaq in three sessions _one talaq in each sitting.If the man gives in anger or in unconsiousness he vl realise wht he did .its d punishment to men that they r nt legal marital relation.n if he gives seriously ,deliberatly dn also it is accepted.n he must be punished as he didn't follow d recomended n loved process of giving talaq in three sessions.
jihalat se ek waqt mai teen talaq dena islam na pasand karta hai na k qobool nhi karta.islam mai talaq ka issue extremly serious issue hai.talaq ek saat teen de ya teen stages mai de...it is applicable.Bt d recomended way is to gv in three sessions.teen talaq jo mard apni wife ko de yeh islam mai na pasand hai n hum sub log iski muzammat karte hai...means v dnt encouraged it.bt v vl support islamic laws where tough it is not liked bt acceptable n dz nly makes d triple talaq issues more sensible n serious issue.muslum personal law board must appeal our government to gv punishment to those who are practising this way of giving talaq.bcz dz is very bad way of giving.bt yeh tareeqa bura hai n by d grace of Allah every body is gtng dz point.To eradicate or decrease the triple talaq in our country which is nt evn liked in islam muslim personal law board should decide wht punishment is to be given to the commiter n should appeal to gov to gv implement dz punishment.Sonchne ke baat hai hamare mulk mai knifes se ketne murders hote hai n internet se ketni buraiya phelti hai kya hum aesi he knife use karne p n internet use karne p band laga sakhte hai.yeh kaam jo jahil hai ya jo criminal hai vo he karega n jail ke hawa kha a ga na.waise he yeh qanoon allah ne banaya hai.yeh allah ke muslihat hai jo allah ne triple talaq at one sitting bhi applicable rakha bt with unliked na_pasandeeda n triple talaq in three sessions _one talaq in each sitting.If the man gives in anger or in unconsiousness he vl realise wht he did .its d punishment to men that they r nt legal marital relation.n if he gives seriously ,deliberatly dn also it is accepted.n he must be punished as he didn't follow d recomended n loved process of giving talaq in three sessions.
jihalat se ek waqt mai teen talaq dena islam na pasand karta hai na k qobool nhi karta.islam mai talaq ka issue extremly serious issue hai.talaq ek saat teen de ya teen stages mai de...it is applicable.Bt d recomended way is to gv in three sessions.teen talaq jo mard apni wife ko de yeh islam mai na pasand hai n hum sub log iski muzammat karte hai...means v dnt encouraged it.bt v vl support islamic laws where tough it is not liked bt acceptable n dz nly makes d triple talaq issues more sensible n serious issue.muslum personal law board must appeal our government to gv punishment to those who are practising this way of giving talaq.bcz dz is very bad way of giving.bt yeh tareeqa bura hai n by d grace of Allah every body is gtng dz point.To eradicate or decrease the triple talaq in our country which is nt evn liked in islam muslim personal law board should decide wht punishment is to be given to the commiter n should appeal to gov to gv implement dz punishment.Sonchne ke baat hai hamare mulk mai knifes se ketne murders hote hai n internet se ketni buraiya phelti hai kya hum aesi he knife use karne p n internet use karne p band laga sakhte hai.yeh kaam jo jahil hai ya jo criminal hai vo he karega n jail ke hawa kha a ga na.waise he yeh qanoon allah ne banaya hai.yeh allah ke muslihat hai jo allah ne triple talaq at one sitting bhi applicable rakha bt with unliked na_pasandeeda n triple talaq in three sessions _one talaq in each sitting.If the man gives in anger or in unconsiousness he vl realise wht he did .its d punishment to men that they r nt legal marital relation.n if he gives seriously ,deliberatly dn also it is accepted.n he must be punished as he didn't follow d recomended n loved process of giving talaq in three sessions.
They should have brought Dr.Zakir Naik... :D
Uniform Civil Code- Period.
+venkata Raghupavan Mujje that is what which is important. but i don't think indian hindus or non-muslims will ever learn lesson from our past will they?
Well done Arnav...turning into big fan of urs...
Greatt!!!! One Nation One Law, very well.
superb topic taken up by you guys :-)
no hndu law. no muslim law. no christian law.
let the constitution prevail.
This question must be asked to everyone who advocates the 'freedom of expression' even when things are against the nation. Intellectuals, please come ahead and take your stands as it is about the 'women'. You have had enough of giving them the freedom to enter the temple. Now please give them the freedom from 'talaak talaak talaak'.
alok mishra very nice
In a secular country muslims should be allowed to have their own constitution
One of the panel very cleverly says Muslim women should have gone here instead of Supreme Court for divorce issues...what is "here"? Sharia court?? Sharia law is very cleverly pushed as the solution..
Great debate by Arnab goswami