Not only it prevents downgrading, also consider the money gained from grinding at actual silver spots instead of stuck at debo spots trying to get back to tet. imo the value hammer brings is pretty straight forward, don't want the hassel? grind silver and tap. the certainty it brings is what most ppl are after. if you truly believed that hammer is not worth 35+bil, wouldn't you just sell it and buy costumes for more but riskier cron taps?
I listed mine as soon as I got it for 39bil. It hasn’t sold today and the newest listings are for 28bil so there is no way mine is selling any time soon. Going to delist it until supply drops and price rises. We have until November to sell or use the hammer so I can wait a while to get the best price.
I am hoping mine sells for 27 bill. I have it a min price. As a new or mid-tier player, this is what I recommend: *IF* the hammer sells before the expiration date, you could take the 27 billion, add another 3 billion from a day or two of grinding (part-time player) and buy yourself a PEN Ring of Crecent Guardian AND a TET Disto. The current price of Ring of Crescent Guardian goes from 14-16 billion. TET Disto are at a steady 16 billion.
Calculation is rather easy at least for the server that not having the luxury of costumes on CM. Vendor crons of TET to PEN Debo + ( Chances to Downgrade in % * Average tries for TRI to TET Debo * ( Vendor crons of TRI to TET Debo + 110fs Value ) ). 34644M + (40% * 3.3 * ( 7215 + 110fs Value) ) 34644M + ( 1.32 * 7215 ) + ( 1.32 * 110fs Value ) 34644M + 9523.8M + ( 1.32 * 110fs Value ) 44167.8M + ( 1.32 * 110fs Value ) I don't know how much 110fs value at. But i think it is around 45b maybe. EDIT : forgotten about if it is dropped further to DUO or PRI. So maybe extra 2b?
Also ur Logic doesnt make any Sense? Vendor Crons for Pen are 32 Bil itself + cron cost Tri to tet + 10 bil. its atleast worth 42 Bil + stack yada yada
Then when its price goes up to 50B all the people who saved will make more money instead of making 32B they will make 44B a difference of 12B that could be yours so what's the point of selling now?
@@Tanjirocan Well I made 34b and I'd rather have that now to help me grind more money than waiting 7 months to make 44b which might not even happen. I think the price is gonna tank pretty hard. Almost nobody has that kinda money to even buy the hammer and the market is flooded.
@@toms.6283 I don't know if you follow the market but every day players buy from the market things more expensive than 50B and secondly the time it will take to reach the maximum price depends on how quickly the market was emptied and filled with orders
why nobody talks about the 14 days reward of a Debo accessory box. If people sell their free Debo accessory 14 days from now, that will drive up the hammer price apparently. People has less demand of hammers than supply due to Debo accessory shortage as well.
I think it's a little shortsighted to just price it at 35B 😅 As others said it's not easy to get costumes on other servers, it also costs pretty much 50B(70B TET debo bneck, 20B TRI debo Neck in EU) if you downgrade it, at 40% chance as you said, this costs on average 20B on top of the crons. And that's only the real money you pay for it,with costumes its 40B and without its already 55B. If you calculate the negative value of having less ap due to downgrade, it easily exceeds the max price. I never got too deep into BDO market and i'm a total nood at 622GS but from the math alone this item will rise to max price. Oh an one last thing: scarcity! This item is in the game until november, the market will dry out at one point
Everyone forgets we will get a free Debo accessory box in 12 days, people will more likely to buy all the hammers. CM has the Debo accessory shortage atm.
I think the only time you should use it is if you are at end game, if you aren't, sell it and just buy another upgrade or 2
Not only it prevents downgrading, also consider the money gained from grinding at actual silver spots instead of stuck at debo spots trying to get back to tet.
imo the value hammer brings is pretty straight forward, don't want the hassel? grind silver and tap. the certainty it brings is what most ppl are after.
if you truly believed that hammer is not worth 35+bil, wouldn't you just sell it and buy costumes for more but riskier cron taps?
Imo it's worth at the very least 35b, minimum, not all regions have the luxury of NA and whales handing our costumes left and right
Basically its croncost+ 40% of the Differnce between tri and tet debo. Which should be around 20b +cron
I listed mine as soon as I got it for 39bil. It hasn’t sold today and the newest listings are for 28bil so there is no way mine is selling any time soon. Going to delist it until supply drops and price rises. We have until November to sell or use the hammer so I can wait a while to get the best price.
I am hoping mine sells for 27 bill. I have it a min price.
As a new or mid-tier player, this is what I recommend:
*IF* the hammer sells before the expiration date, you could take the 27 billion, add another 3 billion from a day or two of grinding (part-time player) and buy yourself a PEN Ring of Crecent Guardian AND a TET Disto.
The current price of Ring of Crescent Guardian goes from 14-16 billion. TET Disto are at a steady 16 billion.
Calculation is rather easy at least for the server that not having the luxury of costumes on CM.
Vendor crons of TET to PEN Debo + ( Chances to Downgrade in % * Average tries for TRI to TET Debo * ( Vendor crons of TRI to TET Debo + 110fs Value ) ).
34644M + (40% * 3.3 * ( 7215 + 110fs Value) )
34644M + ( 1.32 * 7215 ) + ( 1.32 * 110fs Value )
34644M + 9523.8M + ( 1.32 * 110fs Value )
44167.8M + ( 1.32 * 110fs Value )
I don't know how much 110fs value at. But i think it is around 45b maybe.
EDIT : forgotten about if it is dropped further to DUO or PRI. So maybe extra 2b?
Before Watching it, my Opinion the Stock is gonna deplete slowly its gonna rise to 50 Bil.
Also ur Logic doesnt make any Sense? Vendor Crons for Pen are 32 Bil itself + cron cost Tri to tet + 10 bil. its atleast worth 42 Bil + stack yada yada
I'm holding onto mine for at least a few weeks. There is a finite supply, so people will eventually overpay to buy them.
I hope so. Gonna hold onto mine for a while.
Buy low sell high, planning to potentionally sell my pen BS to stock on hammers b4 i quit for a month or so
There were like 6k+ in market and now its just 2 in one day.
to some ppl it would def be worth 50 bil, just not in the next month or so..
can u please exlain the conditions to get it , like in the quest sections , do i have to do the 3 qsts ?
Thanks for the opinion Jon! Hope you get that pen soon brother
How long can it be redeemed? 200 hours of family playtime is needed but I'm only at 150.
I'm glad I sold mine immediately after maintenance when there were still preorders up
Then when its price goes up to 50B all the people who saved will make more money instead of making 32B they will make 44B a difference of 12B that could be yours so what's the point of selling now?
@@Tanjirocan Well I made 34b and I'd rather have that now to help me grind more money than waiting 7 months to make 44b which might not even happen. I think the price is gonna tank pretty hard. Almost nobody has that kinda money to even buy the hammer and the market is flooded.
@@toms.6283 I don't know if you follow the market but every day players buy from the market things more expensive than 50B and secondly the time it will take to reach the maximum price depends on how quickly the market was emptied and filled with orders
why nobody talks about the 14 days reward of a Debo accessory box. If people sell their free Debo accessory 14 days from now, that will drive up the hammer price apparently. People has less demand of hammers than supply due to Debo accessory shortage as well.
@@zhaxiao9719Well they are aleady sitting at 27.5b right now and noone is buying them.
I think it's a little shortsighted to just price it at 35B 😅
As others said it's not easy to get costumes on other servers, it also costs pretty much 50B(70B TET debo bneck, 20B TRI debo Neck in EU) if you downgrade it, at 40% chance as you said, this costs on average 20B on top of the crons. And that's only the real money you pay for it,with costumes its 40B and without its already 55B.
If you calculate the negative value of having less ap due to downgrade, it easily exceeds the max price.
I never got too deep into BDO market and i'm a total nood at 622GS but from the math alone this item will rise to max price.
Oh an one last thing: scarcity! This item is in the game until november, the market will dry out at one point
Console has tanked to 27.6B with ~200 listed already
HUSH... I NEED THE MONEY... LET THEM BUY IT
On console 27.5 bio and 200 there
Gotta hold it for a few weeks, selling min is like shitting on your own face
400 + now in eu. And they ve got like 5 pen debo in the last 1 hour... 😂
all the time not to spend om sniping costumes. and ppl that sold this wont buy and sell their costumes
100% 2 weeks its max price
As it should be, 0% chance to downgrade is worth easily 20bil+ in a vacuum
Everyone forgets we will get a free Debo accessory box in 12 days, people will more likely to buy all the hammers. CM has the Debo accessory shortage atm.
u should buy some more xD J's