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Ironic, since they both produce exclusively vapid souless works of narcissism. I like a lot of it, but I don't for a single second think these cats are philosophically deep or humanely nuanced.
I barely hear QT talk so enthusiastically, even about cinema or movies. I think Ellis is a really good interviewer for him, he brings out the best from Quentin. Such a joy to listen to them!
I sincerely believe that you do immediately have an edge over your peers if you grew up watching movies for adults. Watching something like The Evil Dead or 2001 as a kid can change your life.
A Tree I've always kind of felt like I missed out. I can't to relate to a lot of my peers' love of Disney and other kids movies because I grew up watching R rated films Predator, Terminator, Alien, The Godfather, etc.
Dude my mom showed me Kill Bill and pulp fiction at 4 and 5 years old, and pet sematary, other movies like that. My dad and I saw the Hateful Eight on new years and he showed me django for the first time when I was in the seventh grade, dog attack and all. My parents raised me on Tarantino
Ive watched a lot of Tarantino interviews, and I've noticed that he starts a lot of his answers with either "it's interesting because..." or "It's funny because..." just found that kinda interesting 😂
I can understand Tarantino not being too keen on a film like Vertigo, but it is an absolutely beautifully shot movie. I remember seeing it in my teens and thinking even then that it was gorgeous to look at.
It's probably Hitchcock's most ambitious film, but the execution of the ideas had some fundamental problems. First Hitchcock was a singular genius in using the camera eye to tell a story visually better than anyone in the era. But he doesn't really use that in Vertigo, the story and themes required that dynamic Hitchcockian eye, but its missing for 95% of the film. The second problem is the two lead actors are just not very engaging. Jimmy Stewart didn't really evoke anything besides being constantly confused in Act 1, and being obsessed in Act 2. The female is, well, cast for her beauty. But forgettable beyond that.
@@katskillz "First Hitchcock was a singular genius in using the camera eye to tell a story visually better than anyone in the era. But he doesn't really use that in Vertigo..." Yes, he does. There are long sequences early in the film with Stewart tailing Novak where there is no dialogue and no framing context: just pure cinema as we attempt to knot together these disparate, flowing sequences of looking and being looked at. Granted, the narrative set-up for 'Vertigo' (i.e. the crime and its details) requires some expository scenes, but even those plot mechanics are bookended by a very careful visual style - which, in the final act, almost completely subsumes the detective narrative.
"All my horror stories [working in film] deal with Harvey Weinstein to one degree or another." -Quentin Tarantino in 2015 That remark aged very, very well.
I’m 10 years younger than these guys, and have no first-hand memories of the age of Hollywood they’re discussing around the 24 minute mark, but I do recall as a young kid, 8-12, being given money to go to the neighborhood theaters (by myself) to pick whatever movies I wanted to watch on a Saturday afternoon (stuff like Swamp Thing & Raiders of the Lost Ark at that time) and having that full magical experience of entering an unknown world for 2 hours with no pre-conceived expectations. I do think that’s completely gone now for the current generation of young film-goers. As to “adult movies” (cinema, not porn)-cable, and laissez faire parenting, allowed me to see Excalibur and Carnal Knowledge and the Exorcist and Carrie (and many more hard R movies) several years before puberty, and dePalma’s Body Double right as I started puberty, and those movies really stick with you at that age.
It's such a terrific podcast. The two of them are indeed comfortable at speaking their minds and creating such a professional and at the same time friendly ambience. Quentin exudes passion and enthusiasm regarding cinema and his own favorite genre. Even, the time he talks about his viewpoints germane to cinema, one indeed feels it so deeply that Quentin Tarantino totally and incredibly gets a kick out of writing and directing movies. This is such an awesome feature which stresses this principle over and over " If you want to get improvement in your work, you need to deeply and genuinely get fascinated by it... otherwise, you wouldn't do it well, so then no improvement..." Quentin is immensely touched by a couple of movies and as a result he's got an incredible enthusiasm and passion. I really get a kick out of his passion, hyper-energy and fascinating.
I love how they keep pulling Pauline Kael into the conversation. She was such a good writer. It didn't matter that she hated a lot of the films they're into.
"Vertigo: bored at 17, mildly interested at 28, beyond devastated at 37. From then on I've considered it the most beautiful film ever made..." - Bret Easton Ellis
@@eddieadams6050 Echoes exactly my experience. I Saw "Vertigo" for the first time at age 15 in a southern California revival cinema palace on a double bill with "Rope" as day two of a three day Hitchcock festival sponsored by Turner Classic Movies. Love at first sight.
1st saw it aged 23, didnt like it, saw The Birds for 1st time the next day, was immediately hooked, but over the next two weeks Vertigo kept flashing back at me, I felt like lost in that forest, so I rewatched it two weeks later like this is perfect part of me.
To be honest, that actress is so beautiful, and that actor reminds me of a cartoon characters impression of him. So naturally, I always loved the film, even when they played it for me in middle school. 😂
John K Lindgren This comment is so objectively wrong, I can’t ignore it! If anything, I think most would agree that his strongest trait would be his visual style. The way he stages the one shot in Kill Bill before she fights the 88, in Django when they arrive at that first town, Hateful Eight...I mean...every single shot of that movie is visually telling you a 3rd dimension of the story. Not to mention every shot is incredibly clean and purposeful. But I suppose, agree to disagree..
You said a mouthful. Simply describes the history of movies from the 50s on. Hitchcock, Goddard; nilistic 70s vs. return of the happy ending (in Rocky) 80's. There's breadth and scope here, Europe and America, that you will find with few film commentators. Between the two viewers the have not missed and not thought through much.
I would love if after his retirement from film, we get nothing but QT novels. I'm highly anticipating his novelization of "Once Upon a Time In Hollywood".
Been rewatching 70s films that I’d only seen on late night network TV, crappy VHS, or scratched prints before. The image quality is leaps and bounds better and I’m older so it’s generally like seeing an entirely different movie. Even if I just watch to see the 70s cars, clothing and interior decoration it’s rewarding.
+JayoJay How is esthetic a "Hipster Word"? Its a legitimate fucking phrase that artists use to describe tone/ look/ feeling. Describing terms as "Hipster" is outdated and antiquated. You're welcome
Two things in this life you can't polish: a turd, and an already perfectly-polished diamond. Friedkin got it 100% right the first time. Sir, step away from the masterpiece.
Vertigo is amazing. And Hitchcock in general is extremely talented and very innovative. But I love hearing Quentin. It’s the second time I’m listening to this specific interview. I love Quentin so much. But we all have our opinions. I respect his. But disagree on certain things :-) He is one of the most knowledgeable people on the planet when it comes to film history though in my opinion.
@@Stephen-lt1tp Who cares if a movie makes sense? Do you go to a museum looking at art trying to make sense of what you see? Either you like it or you don’t. Lots of people like experiencing Vertigo. Fine if you don’t!
@@davebowman1337 do you like movies that don’t make sense? Yeah, you look at a painting for a couple minutes. You don’t sit there and stare at it for two hours unless you’re one of those weirdos. And good art does make sense. It looks like something. Unless you think baby paintings and abstract art count.
He was positive about him because he only dealt with him up to that point and he had no problems from him creatively. Say what you want to say about him but if it wasn't for Miramax i e Weinstein, we wouldn't have had the uprising of art cinema like we did in the 90s without him. He was the biggest champion of it. There's a reason why there's an abundance of ridiculous Marvel movies and garbage being released today (btw, I totally agree with Inarrattu's assessment on that genre, no matter Quentin - wtf is he talkin about?- Tarantino says), there's no studio now like Miramax to champion art films on the scale they were doing before.
@@78Soko Never said he didn't know. I don't dispute that fact...as far as to what degree - who knows? In fact, he protected Uma from him. I said he only had to deal with him his whole career as the producer and strictly looking at it from an artist/financier perspective, he let him generally have free reign because he supported art films.
Every time I hear Quentin talk about movies it just makes me wanna watch one. I’m going through his directed filmography now and throughly enjoying most of his films. Kill Bill 2 was meh but I really like the first one. Jackie brown and IB is next
llis’s most successful satire was self-satire: Lunar Park, a postmodern haunted house novel filled with post 9/11 dreads, in-jokes and autobiographical notes, with Jay and Bret themselves futzing around as doofus sidekicks. An uncharacteristically companionable novel from Mr Trendy Sicko, it also indicated a narrowing avenue ahead. After you’ve made yourself the hapless protagonist, poked fun at your own celebrity, vanity and substance intake, how much more meta can you go?
i didnt see My bloody valentine 3D, but Final Destination 3D (im not sure if there was more than one 3D flick in the franchise cuz i dont follow the series: but anyhow the one with the dentist scene and the hair salon scene) was one of my favorite theatre going horror experiences. opening weekend, full house and a surprisingly mixed demographic (teens all the way up to octogenarians)... everyone seemed like they were open minded and in the mood for some mindless fun. I was surprised how smart it ended up being in its execution (and was THANKFUL it didn't feel the need to get too heavy on any useless, mood killing, expository scenes) But it wasn't jus wall to wall senseless gore like Piranha 3D, though i dug that flick as well... and thought it was clever in its own way. But each scene in Piranha nonetheless felt like it was a simple set-up followed by a gross-out death... until the orgasmic orgy of chaos in the 3rd act. FD 3D was more a collection of set pieces that built the suspense, minute by minute, every little detail adding to the complexity of the inevitable kill, and a few of the times, surprising you with sleight of hand. Was a really fun flick and the experience was one of the most memorable. SIDE NOTE: QT finds the 80s among the worst decades of filmmaking? so many cool horror and sci-fi flicks came out in the 80s. even stuff he's borrowed liberally from.
I feel like you could pick any film and, on the off chance he hasn't seen it already, Tarantino would be back within a few days with three hours' worth of captivating criticism on it. The man is a machine. 🙌🏼
One of my very first childhood memories or film is watching from dusk till dawn with my brother and sister. We were like 7 years old and I remember that movie being fucking awesome and made me appreciate everything horror
I think people just forget that in the 90s Tarantino was hipper than hip. After being so saturated with his personality for so long it's easy to call him a dork but when he came out he was legit a "cool" person lol
I wish he could make movie #10 very similar to Reservoir Dogs so that its like Book Ends type ending with everything coming full circle. Perhaps limit himself to a similar budget also.
actually i wish he doesnt worry about his legacy and just keeps doing what he likes. if he really doesnt want to make movies then so be it. but dont worry about fading out, going out on top etc
CK was '40s though, I think. I feel a bit ignorant about most older movies to be honest in comparison to movies which were more accessible when I was younger, which was really 1970s movies forward. I feel I've probably missed a lot of gems. The '20s version of Napoleon looks incredible as far as innovative techniques go.
On Goddard, I always felt "Le Mepris" had a great vibe. I see parallels with "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" (and of course Truffaut's "Day For Night") and will continue to be curious about whether QT likes Goddard's own ode to Hollywood filmmaking.
I don't think he's ass kissing. He's digging into getting Tarantino's opinion. He's said in the past he's more interested in observing other people's opinions than pushing his own.
K man It's funny. I didn't know 'til about two years ago that Vertigo had garnered such esteem. I read an essay, 99 percent sure it was in the literary mag Boulevard, that was all about that esteem, and how a group of critics have pushed it so that it's now considered the greatest movie ever made, topping even Citizen Kane. The writer of the essay would have agreed with Quentin. He or she said it was pretty mundane and suspected critics really didn't like it as much as they said. I don't know. I don't understand why anyone would pretend to like a movie. I've never seen Vertigo, but I do agree with Quentin that Hitch is a bit overrated. His characters are always so one-dimensional. And the dialogue is often so damn corny. Rear Window: Grace Kelly is fucking gorgeous, but there's this scene where she goes around turning lights on saying her character's name...it is so silly and corny it literally made me cringe. I don't know, maybe he's just dated. Rope was pretty good. I saw that a few times. And Psycho of course, though some of that is pretty corny too. That five-minute explanation scene at the end? What the fuck.
As much as I like to see longer cuts of movies, I happen to agree with Bret Easton Ellis that the original cut of The Exorcist is vastly superior. I also wish the newer cuts didn't suddenly become the definitive versions and the originals confined to the past.
Kinda agrees with his take tho. I saw Hitchcock's movies as a child and like I can't watch them anymore now when I try to rewatch. When they speak about this wonderful naive and pure times watching movies as a child is so true. Not infected by anything or anyone. I can remember it clear as day just sitting in my room torrented all his films and I even watched all psycho movies like yikes. They are so bad but godamn did I love em at the time Although psycho, vertigo and rear windows has aged well to some degree, imo they aren't that good as people will praise them to be and but the movies did some impressive stuff in terms of camera shots but overall meh. Also movies that has aged terrible is north by Northwest, Casablanca, rope, stranger on a train
As much as I like Tarantino movies, I've realized long time ago that one should take his opinion of other movies and directors with a huge grain of salt. He has a point to some degree on many of his opinions but others, you just have to filter it through his askewed tastes and preference. His lists often border ridiculous and somewhat spiteful in the example of Refn's Drive as "Nice Try".
@@al1976-v7m It's called "Drive". Don't confuse it with "Baby Driver", which was pretentious garbage. "Drive" is a great movie...a movie like "Death Proof" is more a nice try.
@@totalbliss1 oh sorry i think there is also an older picture called Driver. But i didn't mean Baby Driver, whatever that is. I meant Nicolas Winding Refn's film which is okay, but somewhat overrated.
I'm not hip enough to enjoy The Exorcist. It's just too damn scary. I don't sit there and laugh at it either like so many people seem to do. That movie is just too damn scary. I was a kid when it came out and I can remember the commercials scared me too. I couldn't even watch Happy Days in fear of an Exorcist commercial coming on.
Charley Varrick is a fantastic crime film if anyone has never seen it before. My older brother introduced me to that and The Taking Of Pelham 1,2,3 back in the late 80's when I was 15 or so and they became two of my favorite films. How Pauline Kael didn't like Varrick makes no sense to me!
Everything they are talking about around the 30 min mark, applies to me. Born in the 80's, saw T2, Die Hard, Pulp etc before I was a teen. The playground talk existed then too. I agree it died, but much later.
the 2010s are a golden age for film and tv as far as im concerned. Yea, the Marvel types are the box office kings but there are also endless top-notch films being made as well
Growing up in the 80's, it's definitely my favorite era in terms of movies. But the 90's was no slouch. And obviously Tarantino had his biggest success in the 90's. Just looking at a year like 1995, all these came out the same year (some of these are not high art but I love them, so bear with me 😄): Strange Days, Se7en, Casino, Leaving Las Vegas, Apollo 13, Goldeneye, Outbreak, Heat, 12 Monkeys, Batman Forever, Jumanji, Bad Boys, Clueless, Money Train, Virtuosity, Johnny Mnemonic, To Die For...
I know Lee J. Cobb was in Death of a Salesman, on broadway, but I cannot find any reference to his involvement in the Iceman Cometh. Maybe he meant Jason Robards as Hickey.
Chris Record I found a 1984 May 20th, New York Times article online where Lee J Cobb was known for Willy, Death of a Salesman stage play in 1949, and Jason Robards for playing Hickey in The Ice Man Cometh stage play in 1956. So yes, I think QT got those two confused.
The interviewer is talking shit about 2015 movies ... when we got Sicario, Revenant, Mad Max Fury Road, The Martian, Inside Out, Creed, Joy, Bridge of Spies and on and on.
@@FrancoisDressler Such a low standard these days. You know film as an art form is near death when crap like Joy is considered a highlight of the year haha.
HAL 9000 Now the best character driven movies are in theater’s for a week, in 5% of the theaters at only 9:55pm showing. In my experience this year. Judy, The Peanut Butter Falcon, Honey Boy, there are more.....I had to drive farther to see, and almost no one else was in the theater watching with me.
19:50 Amélie (2001)... seems Jean-Pierre Jeunet style (and I'm now learning of... the other writers on the film) Anyways this talk is incredible. Thanks for sharing. I started reading Bret Easton Ellis new book (the first of his I have read) and I couldn't REALLY get into it.. I think I need to give it another go.
bret easton ellis discusses right at the beginning of the interview that in another occasion quentin tarantino mentioned that he thought the first season of true detective was boring.
Only plan out the first half from the start and during actual writing, once you get to that halfway point, all the moving parts in the first half should be able to tell you where and how the story should end. Huh... I need to try that out... And maybe add it to my other favourite writing tip: "'Buts' and 'therefore's'... NEVER 'and then'!" by Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
Really interesting conversation. I understand implicitly how flawed and ultimately unremarkable both men's work is. But both are knowledgeable and the listener benefited from this fine discourse.
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Favorite author teams up with favorite director to speak freely about the vapid, soulless narcissism of modern society. Brilliant.
Ironic, since they both produce exclusively vapid souless works of narcissism. I like a lot of it, but I don't for a single second think these cats are philosophically deep or humanely nuanced.
@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina.
I barely hear QT talk so enthusiastically, even about cinema or movies. I think Ellis is a really good interviewer for him, he brings out the best from Quentin. Such a joy to listen to them!
True enough! ^Also you mean Rarely I would
presume.
I sincerely believe that you do immediately have an edge over your peers if you grew up watching movies for adults. Watching something like The Evil Dead or 2001 as a kid can change your life.
A Tree I've always kind of felt like I missed out. I can't to relate to a lot of my peers' love of Disney and other kids movies because I grew up watching R rated films Predator, Terminator, Alien, The Godfather, etc.
Karl Marx I grew up watching both 😹😹
Dude my mom showed me Kill Bill and pulp fiction at 4 and 5 years old, and pet sematary, other movies like that. My dad and I saw the Hateful Eight on new years and he showed me django for the first time when I was in the seventh grade, dog attack and all. My parents raised me on Tarantino
@@karlmarx809 See Bambi.
Yeah I think some films can help an adult keep a good imagination if you're inspired young!.
Ive watched a lot of Tarantino interviews, and I've noticed that he starts a lot of his answers with either "it's interesting because..." or "It's funny because..." just found that kinda interesting 😂
I found it funny
Fact
Because?
Thats pretty cool. I like that.
I can understand Tarantino not being too keen on a film like Vertigo, but it is an absolutely beautifully shot movie. I remember seeing it in my teens and thinking even then that it was gorgeous to look at.
QT is visually illiterate. That probably explains it.
Honestly never got the appeal of Hitchcock movies.
It's probably Hitchcock's most ambitious film, but the execution of the ideas had some fundamental problems. First Hitchcock was a singular genius in using the camera eye to tell a story visually better than anyone in the era. But he doesn't really use that in Vertigo, the story and themes required that dynamic Hitchcockian eye, but its missing for 95% of the film.
The second problem is the two lead actors are just not very engaging. Jimmy Stewart didn't really evoke anything besides being constantly confused in Act 1, and being obsessed in Act 2. The female is, well, cast for her beauty. But forgettable beyond that.
@@katskillz "First Hitchcock was a singular genius in using the camera eye to tell a story visually better than anyone in the era. But he doesn't really use that in Vertigo..."
Yes, he does. There are long sequences early in the film with Stewart tailing Novak where there is no dialogue and no framing context: just pure cinema as we attempt to knot together these disparate, flowing sequences of looking and being looked at. Granted, the narrative set-up for 'Vertigo' (i.e. the crime and its details) requires some expository scenes, but even those plot mechanics are bookended by a very careful visual style - which, in the final act, almost completely subsumes the detective narrative.
It’s boring. The ending was silly and made no sense. Psycho was his only good movie
"All my horror stories [working in film] deal with Harvey Weinstein to one degree or another." -Quentin Tarantino in 2015
That remark aged very, very well.
Kevin Ringrose holy fuck, yeah
LOL 😅
What’s great about Tarantino is he still is essentially a movie geek which he was before he became a director. His podcasts clearly show this
Tarantino looks like an Armenian career criminal in that picture.
He looks like a wannabe.
Betcha he'll pussy out like he has in all of his movies
G Money Who clicks on an interview of someone they clearly don’t like? You’re weird as shit
Nah he just look likes a tit!
@@coolkids374 alot of people do bro.
@@ThatGingerCuntFromTerminator2 edgy
I’m 10 years younger than these guys, and have no first-hand memories of the age of Hollywood they’re discussing around the 24 minute mark, but I do recall as a young kid, 8-12, being given money to go to the neighborhood theaters (by myself) to pick whatever movies I wanted to watch on a Saturday afternoon (stuff like Swamp Thing & Raiders of the Lost Ark at that time) and having that full magical experience of entering an unknown world for 2 hours with no pre-conceived expectations. I do think that’s completely gone now for the current generation of young film-goers. As to “adult movies” (cinema, not porn)-cable, and laissez faire parenting, allowed me to see Excalibur and Carnal Knowledge and the Exorcist and Carrie (and many more hard R movies) several years before puberty, and dePalma’s Body Double right as I started puberty, and those movies really stick with you at that age.
It's such a terrific podcast. The two of them are indeed comfortable at speaking their minds and creating such a professional and at the same time friendly ambience. Quentin exudes passion and enthusiasm regarding cinema and his own favorite genre. Even, the time he talks about his viewpoints germane to cinema, one indeed feels it so deeply that Quentin Tarantino totally and incredibly gets a kick out of writing and directing movies. This is such an awesome feature which stresses this principle over and over " If you want to get improvement in your work, you need to deeply and genuinely get fascinated by it... otherwise, you wouldn't do it well, so then no improvement..."
Quentin is immensely touched by a couple of movies and as a result he's got an incredible enthusiasm and passion. I really get a kick out of his passion, hyper-energy and fascinating.
Love that Quentin is doing most the talking.
This is amazing. Great interview.
I love how they keep pulling Pauline Kael into the conversation. She was such a good writer. It didn't matter that she hated a lot of the films they're into.
Tarantino would be happy I snuck into Pulp Fiction when I was 13. It was glorious.
Could you imagine these two doing ecstacy together?
Ken Caminiti Wait... you mean they're not on it here?
In terms of aesthetics, yes
Not just a "Bad News Bears" mention but a frigging "Here Come the Tigers" reference (29:25)?! QT doesn't miss a beat.
One of my favorite interviews ever!
"Vertigo: bored at 17, mildly interested at 28, beyond devastated at 37. From then on I've considered it the most beautiful film ever made..." - Bret Easton Ellis
I've loved it since 16.
@@eddieadams6050
Echoes exactly my experience.
I Saw "Vertigo" for the first time at age 15 in a southern California revival cinema palace on a double bill with "Rope" as day two of a three day Hitchcock festival sponsored by Turner Classic Movies. Love at first sight.
1st saw it aged 23, didnt like it, saw The Birds for 1st time the next day, was immediately hooked, but over the next two weeks Vertigo kept flashing back at me, I felt like lost in that forest, so I rewatched it two weeks later like this is perfect part of me.
Vertigo: Blew my mind when I was 14...I'll never forget it. Hitchcock's masterpiece! 👍👍
To be honest, that actress is so beautiful, and that actor reminds me of a cartoon characters impression of him. So naturally, I always loved the film, even when they played it for me in middle school. 😂
Two of some of the last American treasures, I love these men!
Justin E *”America treasures” ?Tarantino. Yes!! He will be remembered but Bret Ellis? Literary writer. No!Pulp fiction writer Yes, maybe.*
John K Lindgren This comment is so objectively wrong, I can’t ignore it! If anything, I think most would agree that his strongest trait would be his visual style. The way he stages the one shot in Kill Bill before she fights the 88, in Django when they arrive at that first town, Hateful Eight...I mean...every single shot of that movie is visually telling you a 3rd dimension of the story. Not to mention every shot is incredibly clean and purposeful. But I suppose, agree to disagree..
this deserves more views
You said a mouthful. Simply describes the history of movies from the 50s on. Hitchcock, Goddard; nilistic 70s vs. return of the happy ending (in Rocky) 80's. There's breadth and scope here, Europe and America, that you will find with few film commentators. Between the two viewers the have not missed and not thought through much.
I would love if after his retirement from film, we get nothing but QT novels. I'm highly anticipating his novelization of "Once Upon a Time In Hollywood".
I hope he writes novels about different characters in the Tarantinoverse. Fingers crossed for a Vega Bros book 📖
Been rewatching 70s films that I’d only seen on late night network TV, crappy VHS, or scratched prints before. The image quality is leaps and bounds better and I’m older so it’s generally like seeing an entirely different movie. Even if I just watch to see the 70s cars, clothing and interior decoration it’s rewarding.
Take a drink every time one of them says aesthetic.
so...drunk right bow......
Everytime Quentin says "it's interesting"
+JayoJay How is esthetic a "Hipster Word"? Its a legitimate fucking phrase that artists use to describe tone/ look/ feeling. Describing terms as "Hipster" is outdated and antiquated. You're welcome
Incognito Fool did you really just go full out pissed off over this? Wow !!!!!
Your Liver will not make it.
It's gotten to the point where I enjoy Tarintino's interviews more than I enjoy his movies!
So true.
Never.
Naa
But that before his last Manson one. After the first hour I would have welcomed the gun turned on me.
I'm with Bret on "The Exorcist": Hated the 2000 version, especially the clichéd Casablanca ending. Friedkin was smart for originally taking it out.
Yeah, I thought all that stuff made it less scary. For me, it's the original or nothing at all.
Two things in this life you can't polish: a turd, and an already perfectly-polished diamond. Friedkin got it 100% right the first time. Sir, step away from the masterpiece.
I like the spiderwalk scene being back in, everything else is fucking awful.
The new ending is like wtf.
Love them both.
this was fantastic! it's really inspiring to hear you two talk passionately about film
So many great stories in every new podcast I find with Tarantino
Vertigo is amazing. And Hitchcock in general is extremely talented and very innovative.
But I love hearing Quentin.
It’s the second time I’m listening to this specific interview.
I love Quentin so much.
But we all have our opinions.
I respect his.
But disagree on certain things :-)
He is one of the most knowledgeable people on the planet when it comes to film history though in my opinion.
It was boring movie, the ending made no sense for all that build up.. who cares it “looks pretty”
@@Stephen-lt1tp Who cares if a movie makes sense? Do you go to a museum looking at art trying to make sense of what you see? Either you like it or you don’t. Lots of people like experiencing Vertigo. Fine if you don’t!
@@davebowman1337 do you like movies that don’t make sense? Yeah, you look at a painting for a couple minutes. You don’t sit there and stare at it for two hours unless you’re one of those weirdos. And good art does make sense. It looks like something. Unless you think baby paintings and abstract art count.
Inspiring talk, thank you for uploading.
“All my horror stories are about Harvey Weinstein” yikes
yeah when they got to that part it was weird
He was positive about him because he only dealt with him up to that point and he had no problems from him creatively.
Say what you want to say about him but if it wasn't for Miramax i e Weinstein, we wouldn't have had the uprising of art cinema like we did in the 90s without him. He was the biggest champion of it.
There's a reason why there's an abundance of ridiculous Marvel movies and garbage being released today (btw, I totally agree with Inarrattu's assessment on that genre, no matter Quentin - wtf is he talkin about?- Tarantino says), there's no studio now like Miramax to champion art films on the scale they were doing before.
@@totalbliss1 tarantino knew about how he was for years.
@@78Soko Never said he didn't know. I don't dispute that fact...as far as to what degree - who knows? In fact, he protected Uma from him. I said he only had to deal with him his whole career as the producer and strictly looking at it from an artist/financier perspective, he let him generally have free reign because he supported art films.
This was before he was exposed too
tarantino's list of top 10 movies is pretty mainstream and commercial. was surprised seeing a similar list of his 10 favorites elsewhere.
What a kick ass interview. Bret is the man.
A Tarantino directed film of Glamorama could be so fucking bad ass!!!!
Every time I hear Quentin talk about movies it just makes me wanna watch one. I’m going through his directed filmography now and throughly enjoying most of his films. Kill Bill 2 was meh but I really like the first one. Jackie brown and IB is next
Kill Bill is considered one film.
@@blackirish6868 yea i know haha
The second half of kill bill i wasn’t a huge fan of
Jackie Brown seems is a low key classic.
Tarantino's great legacy will be Inspiring some good and some great Crime films of the 90's.
llis’s most successful satire was self-satire: Lunar Park, a postmodern haunted house novel filled with post 9/11 dreads, in-jokes and autobiographical notes, with Jay and Bret themselves futzing around as doofus sidekicks. An uncharacteristically companionable novel from Mr Trendy Sicko, it also indicated a narrowing avenue ahead. After you’ve made yourself the hapless protagonist, poked fun at your own celebrity, vanity and substance intake, how much more meta can you go?
It wasn't just satire though, in the end his heart explodes.
Well said.
i didnt see My bloody valentine 3D, but Final Destination 3D (im not sure if there was more than one 3D flick in the franchise cuz i dont follow the series: but anyhow the one with the dentist scene and the hair salon scene) was one of my favorite theatre going horror experiences. opening weekend, full house and a surprisingly mixed demographic (teens all the way up to octogenarians)... everyone seemed like they were open minded and in the mood for some mindless fun. I was surprised how smart it ended up being in its execution (and was THANKFUL it didn't feel the need to get too heavy on any useless, mood killing, expository scenes)
But it wasn't jus wall to wall senseless gore like Piranha 3D, though i dug that flick as well... and thought it was clever in its own way. But each scene in Piranha nonetheless felt like it was a simple set-up followed by a gross-out death... until the orgasmic orgy of chaos in the 3rd act.
FD 3D was more a collection of set pieces that built the suspense, minute by minute, every little detail adding to the complexity of the inevitable kill, and a few of the times, surprising you with sleight of hand. Was a really fun flick and the experience was one of the most memorable.
SIDE NOTE: QT finds the 80s among the worst decades of filmmaking? so many cool horror and sci-fi flicks came out in the 80s. even stuff he's borrowed liberally from.
I have always thought of Tarantinos films as mostly comedic.
he considers pulp fiction a comedy
I feel like you could pick any film and, on the off chance he hasn't seen it already, Tarantino would be back within a few days with three hours' worth of captivating criticism on it. The man is a machine. 🙌🏼
One of my very first childhood memories or film is watching from dusk till dawn with my brother and sister. We were like 7 years old and I remember that movie being fucking awesome and made me appreciate everything horror
I heavily disagree with him about Vertigo. That movie is a masterpiece.
Tarantino seems to not like Hitchcock for some reason. I've never heard him say a positive thing about him or his films.
Lol I love that picture of Tarentino acting so cool…Tarentino is a nerd with a fantastic vocabulary.
I think people just forget that in the 90s Tarantino was hipper than hip. After being so saturated with his personality for so long it's easy to call him a dork but when he came out he was legit a "cool" person lol
I like how this interview ends with a meta-comment on the Exorcist, "It's enough, it's enough."
I wish he could make movie #10 very similar to Reservoir Dogs so that its like Book Ends type ending with everything coming full circle. Perhaps limit himself to a similar budget also.
actually i wish he doesnt worry about his legacy and just keeps doing what he likes. if he really doesnt want to make movies then so be it. but dont worry about fading out, going out on top etc
I hated the ending of the "new" version of THE EXORCIST. I fully agree with Bret Easton Ellis.
4:22 ideology vs aesthetics
The God of Cinema is aesthetic, and the only proper way to worship is through fetishization.
Fuck, I didn't expect him to go in that hard on Vertigo. Tbh, that's kinda the way I feel about Citizen Kane and the 30's tho
CK was '40s though, I think. I feel a bit ignorant about most older movies to be honest in comparison to movies which were more accessible when I was younger, which was really 1970s movies forward. I feel I've probably missed a lot of gems. The '20s version of Napoleon looks incredible as far as innovative techniques go.
@@JamesMc2051 Wow, you're right, I never realized it was 41. I like it even less now
Thank you for this. Can you post their new interview?
New interview?
@Lachy Reid. The one from Ellis's podcast this year where they talk about once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Listened to this a few times, didn't remember the War of the Worlds shout out. I love that movie, never understood the contempt for it.
A E S T H E T I C
On Goddard, I always felt "Le Mepris" had a great vibe. I see parallels with "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" (and of course Truffaut's "Day For Night") and will continue to be curious about whether QT likes Goddard's own ode to Hollywood filmmaking.
I love you, Quentin.
“In particularly”
Oh, thank goodness. I was feeling uninspired, and around 52:41 minutes into this, the ongoing epiphany reasserts itself. The vibe of vibes. 😅❤
BEE is absolutely right - social media destroys everything in the name of "likes". Fuck likes. Bring on more BEE and QT please!!
Bret loves Vertigo but is just kissing Tarantino’s ass here.
I don't think he's ass kissing. He's digging into getting Tarantino's opinion. He's said in the past he's more interested in observing other people's opinions than pushing his own.
K man It's funny. I didn't know 'til about two years ago that Vertigo had garnered such esteem. I read an essay, 99 percent sure it was in the literary mag Boulevard, that was all about that esteem, and how a group of critics have pushed it so that it's now considered the greatest movie ever made, topping even Citizen Kane. The writer of the essay would have agreed with Quentin. He or she said it was pretty mundane and suspected critics really didn't like it as much as they said. I don't know. I don't understand why anyone would pretend to like a movie. I've never seen Vertigo, but I do agree with Quentin that Hitch is a bit overrated. His characters are always so one-dimensional. And the dialogue is often so damn corny. Rear Window: Grace Kelly is fucking gorgeous, but there's this scene where she goes around turning lights on saying her character's name...it is so silly and corny it literally made me cringe. I don't know, maybe he's just dated. Rope was pretty good. I saw that a few times. And Psycho of course, though some of that is pretty corny too. That five-minute explanation scene at the end? What the fuck.
Listening to this with a notepad and a pen
Favorite tarantino conversation
As much as I like to see longer cuts of movies, I happen to agree with Bret Easton Ellis that the original cut of The Exorcist is vastly superior. I also wish the newer cuts didn't suddenly become the definitive versions and the originals confined to the past.
Great interview but sorry Quentin I love Vertigo haha
Kinda agrees with his take tho. I saw Hitchcock's movies as a child and like I can't watch them anymore now when I try to rewatch. When they speak about this wonderful naive and pure times watching movies as a child is so true. Not infected by anything or anyone. I can remember it clear as day just sitting in my room torrented all his films and I even watched all psycho movies like yikes. They are so bad but godamn did I love em at the time
Although psycho, vertigo and rear windows has aged well to some degree, imo they aren't that good as people will praise them to be and but the movies did some impressive stuff in terms of camera shots but overall meh. Also movies that has aged terrible is north by Northwest, Casablanca, rope, stranger on a train
@@bergsdal i like psycho a lot but vertigo really loses me at the second half
As much as I like Tarantino movies, I've realized long time ago that one should take his opinion of other movies and directors with a huge grain of salt. He has a point to some degree on many of his opinions but others, you just have to filter it through his askewed tastes and preference. His lists often border ridiculous and somewhat spiteful in the example of Refn's Drive as "Nice Try".
It is a nice try, and not much more. Driver, I mean.
@@al1976-v7m It's called "Drive". Don't confuse it with "Baby Driver", which was pretentious garbage. "Drive" is a great movie...a movie like "Death Proof" is more a nice try.
@@totalbliss1 oh sorry i think there is also an older picture called Driver. But i didn't mean Baby Driver, whatever that is. I meant Nicolas Winding Refn's film which is okay, but somewhat overrated.
I'm not hip enough to enjoy The Exorcist. It's just too damn scary. I don't sit there and laugh at it either like so many people seem to do. That movie is just too damn scary. I was a kid when it came out and I can remember the commercials scared me too. I couldn't even watch Happy Days in fear of an Exorcist commercial coming on.
Love Quinten but completly disagree with his views of Hitchcock and I can't stand the remake of Psycho.
I thought his point was interesting, but I feel like he was underselling Hitchcock too.
The remake was the first one I saw, I was born in “93
Impressive, very nice, now let’s see Paul Allen’s podcast interview with Quentin Tarantino.
Great interview
Quentin should put a camera on his head and be miked up at all times.Living with QT a new reality show?I’d watch!
Media is now under so much pressure that it's having to be hysterical and OTT just to stand out enough to be read.
Charley Varrick is a fantastic crime film if anyone has never seen it before. My older brother introduced me to that and The Taking Of Pelham 1,2,3 back in the late 80's when I was 15 or so and they became two of my favorite films. How Pauline Kael didn't like Varrick makes no sense to me!
Bret is wrong about The Babadook and Goodnight Mommy. They’re brilliant.
Love these two.
Everything they are talking about around the 30 min mark, applies to me. Born in the 80's, saw T2, Die Hard, Pulp etc before I was a teen. The playground talk existed then too. I agree it died, but much later.
I LOVED Pulp Fiction…amazing.
Loved American Psycho (book mainly).
The 80s had a shitload of great movies when you really think about it.
Applies to every decade, without even really needing to think about it.
the 2010s are a golden age for film and tv as far as im concerned.
Yea, the Marvel types are the box office kings but there are also endless top-notch films being made as well
@@vincevirtua Mm-hai
Growing up in the 80's, it's definitely my favorite era in terms of movies. But the 90's was no slouch. And obviously Tarantino had his biggest success in the 90's. Just looking at a year like 1995, all these came out the same year (some of these are not high art but I love them, so bear with me 😄): Strange Days, Se7en, Casino, Leaving Las Vegas, Apollo 13, Goldeneye, Outbreak, Heat, 12 Monkeys, Batman Forever, Jumanji, Bad Boys, Clueless, Money Train, Virtuosity, Johnny Mnemonic, To Die For...
@@ram-4 Bravehart, Dead Man Walking
I know Lee J. Cobb was in Death of a Salesman, on broadway, but I cannot find any reference to his involvement in the Iceman Cometh. Maybe he meant Jason Robards as Hickey.
Chris Record I found a 1984 May 20th, New York Times article online where Lee J Cobb was known for Willy, Death of a Salesman stage play in 1949, and Jason Robards for playing Hickey in The Ice Man Cometh stage play in 1956. So yes, I think QT got those two confused.
The compression/limiting on this interview makes it nearly unlistenable.
good call. It was bothering me but I couldn't identify it.
The interviewer is talking shit about 2015 movies ... when we got Sicario, Revenant, Mad Max Fury Road, The Martian, Inside Out, Creed, Joy, Bridge of Spies and on and on.
Creed? Joy?!
@@FrancoisDressler Such a low standard these days. You know film as an art form is near death when crap like Joy is considered a highlight of the year haha.
HAL 9000 Now the best character driven movies are in theater’s for a week, in 5% of the theaters at only 9:55pm showing. In my experience this year. Judy, The Peanut Butter Falcon, Honey Boy, there are more.....I had to drive farther to see, and almost no one else was in the theater watching with me.
oof you proved his point, all those movies suck, fury road was half dece
Yeah. They all smoke bologna logs.
Which podcast is he talking about? 18:23
Charley Varrick is amazing, like so many of Don Siegels films.
Impressive, very nice
19:50 Amélie (2001)... seems Jean-Pierre Jeunet style (and I'm now learning of... the other writers on the film)
Anyways this talk is incredible.
Thanks for sharing.
I started reading Bret Easton Ellis new book (the first of his I have read) and I couldn't REALLY get into it.. I think I need to give it another go.
His novel “American Psycho” changed me.
Around 25:00 they talk about going to a movie alone at 10- my first film was ghostbusters
HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU NOT LIKE TRUE DETECTIVE SEASON 1 WHAT THE FUCK
A Single Tear what part did they start talking about that?
bret easton ellis discusses right at the beginning of the interview that in another occasion quentin tarantino mentioned that he thought the first season of true detective was boring.
17:51 "not saying this to kiss your ass" ha
He eats controversy for breakfast
great podcast :)
Only plan out the first half from the start and during actual writing, once you get to that halfway point, all the moving parts in the first half should be able to tell you where and how the story should end.
Huh... I need to try that out... And maybe add it to my other favourite writing tip: "'Buts' and 'therefore's'... NEVER 'and then'!" by Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
Does Quentin remember TBS's "Battle of the Planets" with the G-Force team??
I knew he was going to say Speed Racer before he said it. 🎉🎉🏎️
His next movie should be about a director making his last movie
Yes, there has been a change, there are social media activists who make their name by taking others down via clickbait. It's not fun.
So too many "clever" comments, closed to comments, a pack of bullies. Same today.
Anyone know what podcast qt mentions from Australia going over his screenplays?
Really interesting conversation. I understand implicitly how flawed and ultimately unremarkable both men's work is. But both are knowledgeable and the listener benefited from this fine discourse.
I think B.E.E. has become a truly gifted interviewer and indeed has begun to outshine his novelist pursuits, certainly his later work.
I have two Tarantino films in my Top 20... but three of Hitchcock’s in my Top 10.
Tarantino’s great but Hitch humbles his ass.
That’s your opinion.
Tarantino is a one trick pony
@@lennonnffc1236 I appreciate that you didn't express yours.
Fantastic!
dude s gonna make more than 2 movies.
Brian De Palma talk 43:00
53:30 Tarantino's aesthetic