Well, Gentlemen, the ciurcle has become full. Both experts of from two different schools of fighting agree on the same. As mentioned here, the only question in a confrontation who is relaxed more! Special thanks to you both and the Kuro- obi world as well. Paul,68, fan of martial arts.
Thank you so much for the video! I love your video’s like this! And also thank you for the English subtitles, I am learning Japanese but I am not to good yet. I love hearing and seeing Naka Sensei’s And Kikuno Sensei’s philosophies! ありがとうございます！！
Your opponent grabs you , pulls you forward and you use that momentum to your advantage and give you more striking force . The overhand hook is nicely demonstrated and Thanks .
Karate isn't ancient (especially not the current styles we practice) and karate punches themselves have been evolving continuously, as they should, so it's definitely effective. 🙂
la forme de Yamazuki :deux attaques en UN. Mais chaque contre attaque à une fonction. 1-le haut a une action de défensive -offensive , c'est à dire:Jodan harai zuki=défense haute avec l'avant bras Et se termine en attaque Sei Ken 2-l'aurtre poing bas en Ura-zuki (le paume de la main dirige vers le haut) , coup dans le plexus cardiaque. Cette technique est appliqué souvent dans l'école WADO-RYU.
Since I read Shotokan Mistery and Shotokan Myth, I try to find kata bunkai differently. Now I search for application movements from okinawan karate, related Chinese Kungfu, Kali and Silat since we all have the same root. As for Yama Zuki, I think this movement is the closest actual bunkai for me personally: th-cam.com/video/LGkr6QgeRL8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jxRHtcSOHAaD27RA
Both sensei gave an extremely important peace of information about fighting aside from the punch. Compared to that this particular technique is of no importance. The principle is the key. To any technique.
@@mushinjedi6526 y’a haha for sure i just said that cause of all these bent internet warriors who think effective fighting was created 15 years ago lol and think traditional martial arts are stupid and not effective..
I don't understand why this is such a surprise. Most traditional karate waza "work" if you train them with the mindset of actual combat. Pre-"Do" karate was made for self-defense....
Bien lo que estan haciendo es la evolución del deporte ,por que hoy en día poniendo en práctica sólo los conocimientos del karate a la hora de un combate real con otra disciplina como el boxeo se complica la Teoría
We see this in almost any art including Western Boxing and Chinese arts... Nothing new here except perhaps to super linear Karate... Karate and some Chinese arts would prefer to use explosive footwork to make the angle on entry... The last 10th of a second is all that matters...lots of movement early on is extraneous...also not typically relevant to self defense.
Funakoshi said that kata and kihon should be practiced as prescribed. Kumite is another matter. You will be right if you were competing in tournaments because of the rules of said contests. In practical applications or in a real fight, there are no rules. I train as if there are no rules when it comes to kumite. I train kihon and kata as is required in the system. Granted, I don't compete anymore. I just train karate. As for this particular wide U punch, a former student of mine was just taught Bassai Dai along with a possible use of the punch which he promptly used sparring with his twin brother who got hit both in the jaw and groin. We were all stunned. I have never seen anybody use that punch much less hit with it in my 35 years of training. 17 years later, I have not seen it since that day but it is always a highlight of Bassai Dai training. My take is that the techniques work. Otherwise, the creator of the kata would not have placed it there. All we need to do is to be serious about practicing/applying them and making sure that it works for us. It may not. No problem. there are a lot of simpler more effective alternatives like a kick to the groin, etc. Safe training.
Мне вот интересно, какими ударами по сопернику пользуются "обычные японские мужики"?ну там менеджеры,слесари, директоры, трактористы...у нас обычно именно "Yama-zuki"
В боксе тоже очень часто используется удар с уклоном. Настолько часто, что это смотрится по боксерски. Лучше бы показали что нибудь более оригинальное для этого стиля.
дык, яма-цки и есть оригинальный для кара-тэ удар! Каратэ не бокс - большинство ударов наносятся с вертикальным положением корпуса;). Удар этот есть в ката бассай-дай.
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Could You add japanese subtitles ? I'm learning japanese and karate and that would be very helpful
Thank you !
@@robbelk1982 there's auto-generated Japanese in the options
Gracias por la Atención de poner subtítulos en diferentes Idiomas.
Saludos.
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Well, Gentlemen,
the ciurcle has become full. Both experts of from two different schools of fighting agree on the same. As mentioned here, the only question in a confrontation who is relaxed more!
Special thanks to you both and the Kuro- obi world as well. Paul,68, fan of martial arts.
The same was said by Cheng Man Ching, the great taiji master, when was asked about the same subject. Thanks, senseis. Wonderful and useful channel.
Osu!
Thank you for English CC! Even without them I still watch your videos!
漫画の話で恐縮ですが、この1対1の情報戦ということを聞いて、「北斗の拳」で聖帝サウザーの南斗鳳凰拳に構えは無い、という怖さがわかりました。自分は相手に情報を与えず、敵の動きに合わせて敵に勝るスピードと動きで相手を切裂く。なるほど、南斗聖拳最強の意味も分かりました。あの傲慢なまでの態度も、自分がリラックスするための術なのかも。
Basically an overhand. This technique emphasizes driving behind the weight of the head. I like it. Thanks.
武術の真髄を語っておられるように感じました。
武術が精神や気や反射という人間の根本を動かすものに関わってくるということが、
よく理解できました（私自身は武術からは遠い、ただのファンにすぎないですが）。
特定の技が強いというわけでもない。固まった一定の正解が用意されているわけでもない。
なんでもできるという自然体かつ、多彩な技と身体操作（つまり、修練）があって
「武術」となっていく、という。面白いです。
何百年も残ってきた武術には基本的に「使えない技」なんてないと思うんですよね。
その技が作られた経緯を知り、その技のために想定されたシチュエーションに合わせて使えばいいだけで
使えないと感じるのは使い手のほうにそれを生かす発想力やセンスがないだけなんじゃないかと。
仏道の「無執着」のような考えが入っていて、奥が深く面白いですね。
武道と競技の違い。武道は「生き方」「在り方」。競技は「勝ち負け」。
Beautifully presented and explained. You make it sound easy, despite me knowing how difficult it really is
Thank you so much for the video! I love your video’s like this! And also thank you for the English subtitles, I am learning Japanese but I am not to good yet. I love hearing and seeing Naka Sensei’s And Kikuno Sensei’s philosophies! ありがとうございます！！
This is called as "Overhand Punch."
That's great that you gave english subtitles 🙏
Your opponent grabs you , pulls you forward and you use that momentum to your advantage and give you more striking force . The overhand hook is nicely demonstrated and Thanks .
Thanks for English subtitle!
Excellent! Very deep explanations from both masters about the kumite and Budo, after Yamazuki explanation. Great!
It's like a Over Head Punch! Very great Sensei. 🙏
This is great! I love this channel! So much respect!
Karate isn't ancient (especially not the current styles we practice) and karate punches themselves have been evolving continuously, as they should, so it's definitely effective. 🙂
Yes, this is more "real fighting" and less Karate which tends to be overly stiff often with an upright body and hips kept level.
A true master, innovation of style
まさしく、菊野先生が『巌流島』で元ムエタイ王者・クンタップ・チャンロイチャイを１R4秒でKOした突きですね。
格闘競技で武術(武技？)を応用するのが難しい理由がよくわかりました
ボブチャンチンのロシアンフックやレイ・セフォーのブーメランフックを思い浮かべてしまいました。
Thank you for showing real karate from kata.
la forme de Yamazuki :deux attaques en UN. Mais chaque contre attaque à une fonction.
1-le haut a une action de défensive -offensive , c'est à dire:Jodan harai zuki=défense haute avec l'avant bras Et se termine en attaque Sei Ken
2-l'aurtre poing bas en Ura-zuki (le paume de la main dirige vers le haut) , coup dans le plexus cardiaque. Cette technique est appliqué souvent dans l'école WADO-RYU.
This was a very good video .it showed the punch from Basi di mountain punch is factually a very practical punch 👌
T-58との試合の菊野は始終力んでいた。
あの試合の菊野にはリラックスとは縁遠い状態だった。
慣れていないルールで相手も実力者と言う状況でそうなったんだろうね。
護身にせよ試合にせよ、戦いの場でどこまでリラックス出来るか。
これは練習である程度鍛えられるんだろうけどやっぱり天性の部分も大きいんだろな。
ロボットと試合したのかと思った。
i can feel they respect each other highly
That's really cool, thanks Kuro-obi world 😃
Since I read Shotokan Mistery and Shotokan Myth, I try to find kata bunkai differently. Now I search for application movements from okinawan karate, related Chinese Kungfu, Kali and Silat since we all have the same root. As for Yama Zuki, I think this movement is the closest actual bunkai for me personally:
th-cam.com/video/LGkr6QgeRL8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jxRHtcSOHAaD27RA
中達也先生＆菊野克紀先生と、矢地祐介選手のコラボ動画が見てみたいです。✨
中先生。悩める格闘家に御助言下さい。フワッとしててつかみどころのない性格ですが隠し持った芯の太さがある若者です。どうかお願いします。
ウェイブ使いの方も
Merci pour cette vidéo.
Haha enfin un com en français 😂💪
Both sensei gave an extremely important peace of information about fighting aside from the punch. Compared to that this particular technique is of no importance. The principle is the key. To any technique.
柔道やってて思ったけど型をそのままやっても打ち込みをそのままやっても技は絶対にかからない。相手の重心を意識を伝って動かして投げる。すると自然と形になる。形ってほんとうに自然発生したんじゃないかな。
Very interesting the explanation about the inconsistent relationships between two fighters since the position
Lioto Machida aplicou essa técnica do Rachid Evans. Quando ganhou o cinturão do Ufc.
It’s an overhand right basically one of the fundamental techniques taught in all boxing schools or guys training in mma
Yamazuki sounds so much cooler 😂
@@mushinjedi6526 y’a haha for sure i just said that cause of all these bent internet warriors who think effective fighting was created 15 years ago lol and think traditional martial arts are stupid and not effective..
@@tassomaharis397 yeah that is seriously annoying. Respect!
La tecnica del pugno dell'antico karate può essere applicata per MMA!
One of the Boxing punching techniques and so many words))
im kyokushin trainer but i wish i eould come jepan and learn from okinawa master like this one very kind sensei
neither are okinawa master
Osū! I actually use It in kick-Boxing competition, very powerfull, very effective!
ロシア語翻訳ありがとうございます！
Tatsuya Naka and Katsunori Kikuno two of my all time fav
Много лет применяю и обучаю этому приему учеников не догадываясь, что это какой-то особый древний прием.🙂
Мы так на встречке на опережениев начале 90 х работали,в те времена жёстко рубились, Канадзава на семинарах так учил
Over & under, boxing’s Classic overhand punch and under hand punch too.
Thanks, we need more video with subtitle 😅😅. Though I understand a little bit of Japanese I still like video with subtitle 😅😅😅
海外の謎の団体が抜塞大の山突きを「後ろから組み付かれた時に殴りながら崩して投げる技」と解釈して訓練している動画を見た事があるのですが、山突きが拳を使う突き技ではなく肘を使う崩し投げという発想はかなり目から鱗でした
Good
Mexican Boxer Juan Manuel Márquez used that to KO Manny Pacquiao
Excelente reportaje, saludos desde Guayaquil-Ecuador
山突きって抜塞大の空手型に含まれているね。
This overhead punch exists in Shaolin Kung fu as well. :)
I hope so.
Obrigado pela legenda em português OSSU!!
vou melhorar minha técnica com esses ensinamentos
I saw it from the shaolin monk from fujian. amazing..
Certainly very good
О, обычный боксерский кросс каратистам показался чудесным ударом ударом?)
Бокс творит чудеса!
美しいサムネですね
ずっと見ていたくなるような
👉 Karate - Box = ¡ Mega - Excelente !
I don't understand why this is such a surprise. Most traditional karate waza "work" if you train them with the mindset of actual combat. Pre-"Do" karate was made for self-defense....
堀口選手も試合でよくつかってませんか？
菊野先生も太氣拳を取り入れたような動きになってて興味深いですね。
八巻先生や数見先生ともコラボして欲しいですね。
My favorite counter in boxing!!
Great
Bien lo que estan haciendo es la evolución del deporte ,por que hoy en día poniendo en práctica sólo los conocimientos del karate a la hora de un combate real con otra disciplina como el boxeo se complica la Teoría
武術とは勝つことでなく生きること！
至言です。
DZIEKUJE BARDZO! CZESC.
ヒョードルはこういう『自然体の力抜き』がうまかったらしい。
ケンイチの最強コンボのひとつだ
A good angle
長すぎる、あなたはたくさん話し過ぎます / Naga sugiru, anata wa takusan hanashi sugimasu
ようするに頭振ったオーバーハンドのフックだよね。総合では使われまくってるのに空手の中ではむしろあまり使われてないのが面白い。
朝倉未来がKOするときほぼこのワンパターンな気がする
朝倉海はほぼ使わない
一見、堀口も多用してるように見えるが、踏み込み距離が違いすぎて別のワザに思える
Nice
Amazing punch
Quality Boxing.
Muchas gracias por traducirlo al español.
Ti Is One basic boxing skill.......can learn in any boxing Gym.....but with Better tecnique and timing.
Is the overhand right effective? Yes, yes it is.
We see this in almost any art including Western Boxing and Chinese arts... Nothing new here except perhaps to super linear Karate... Karate and some Chinese arts would prefer to use explosive footwork to make the angle on entry... The last 10th of a second is all that matters...lots of movement early on is extraneous...also not typically relevant to self defense.
GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!!!
空手はすごいですね👊💪
Essence of Tiger Drop
Excelente información
This is evropean boxing techniques ☺️
菊野先生の言うことはシステマで言われていることと似ていますね。
武術だけじゃなくて示唆深いですね
Katsunori 👍
形にあるとかそんなものは実戦（含スパーリング、試合）で使ってなければほとんど役に立たない。
伝統派をずっとやっていたが、技、立ち方、構までうるさく言われ、枠にはめられ、それ以外のことをすると試合では勝てない（取ってくれないばかりか反則負けを食らう）し、あとでうるさくお説教される（体罰を伴うときもある）｡
菊野とか実際そういうことを認められる試合で勝っている人間の言うことならわかるが、実際に使っているわけではない流派の言うことは机上の空論でしかない｡
Funakoshi said that kata and kihon should be practiced as prescribed. Kumite is another matter. You will be right if you were competing in tournaments because of the rules of said contests. In practical applications or in a real fight, there are no rules. I train as if there are no rules when it comes to kumite. I train kihon and kata as is required in the system. Granted, I don't compete anymore. I just train karate. As for this particular wide U punch, a former student of mine was just taught Bassai Dai along with a possible use of the punch which he promptly used sparring with his twin brother who got hit both in the jaw and groin. We were all stunned. I have never seen anybody use that punch much less hit with it in my 35 years of training. 17 years later, I have not seen it since that day but it is always a highlight of Bassai Dai training. My take is that the techniques work. Otherwise, the creator of the kata would not have placed it there. All we need to do is to be serious about practicing/applying them and making sure that it works for us. It may not. No problem. there are a lot of simpler more effective alternatives like a kick to the groin, etc. Safe training.
Это техника - практична! Ей, боюсь сказать, сколько веков...
ロシアンフック使いは空手家だった！？
Is there any real difference of Yamazuki to a Thai boxer's right hook punch?
何度聞いてもバッサイダイって大学ありそうな気がする
Am karate from Indonesia..i like shirt karate from japanes👍
Мне вот интересно, какими ударами по сопернику пользуются "обычные японские мужики"?ну там менеджеры,слесари, директоры, трактористы...у нас обычно именно "Yama-zuki"
Ты вслушайся, что ты сказал. Японские мужики. Слух не режет?
It's a slip to a hard right you see it all the time
Karate needs you. Karate is loosing credibility because point matches. Thank you sensei
У нас в деревне, за всегда, так лупили! :))))
У нас в станице тоже. Уход с линии атаки и встречный с плеча.
У нас в станице тоже. Уход с линии атаки и встречный с плеча.
Amo ❤️🤩 caráter.qiero ser fera
ボラードや散打の様な感じでしょうか？肩を引っ張られて振り向き様に最上段へ拳突と言うのは軽くやって見せてますがかなり大きいアクションで可動域も伸長も大きく長いですね。見た目ほど簡単ではなかったッス。ぶんまわして蛍光灯のヒモちぎっちゃった😅
回転半径を小さく最速にしないといけないんですね😅
В боксе тоже очень часто используется удар с уклоном. Настолько часто, что это смотрится по боксерски. Лучше бы показали что нибудь более оригинальное для этого стиля.
дык, яма-цки и есть оригинальный для кара-тэ удар!
Каратэ не бокс - большинство ударов наносятся с вертикальным положением корпуса;).
Удар этот есть в ката бассай-дай.
Un poquito de base no os vendría mal.por lo demás muy fuertes.mejor ataque una buena defensa.no veo proteccion