Right on Doug, if people would read the reg very carefully, they would understand there were no minimums broken. The day I got my instrument rating, I had to fly back to my home airport and my approach looked exactly like this. Scared me a bit, but didn't break any regs.
@@HyperDrive45 not being a pilot, just enjoying these videos: what happens when theres fog around the airport and theres no way you can see the runway directly? Do you have to go to a different airport then?
@@Jannikheu yes that is correct. Flying in these conditions requires a flight plan, talk with air traffic control, and planned alternate airports. Getting your instrument rating so you can fly in these IFR conditions is an expensive endeavor.
I thought I had it rough when I once had to stick my head out my car window in the fog just to see the divider line on the street to steer correctly. That landing made me nervous just watching it. You fully had confidence in your instruments to make a great landing. Great ending comment to know your plane.
First of all, thank you for your service. I was enlisted Air Force. I appreciate your straightforward response to those who criticized you. I would not like to try to be an "expert" to a professional pilot such as you. Another thing, I live over on the west side of Indiana, so you aren't that far away from me. I didn't realize that you were based here. Safe flying and once again, thank you for your service.
I flew freight, passengers & cargo in metro liners with up to 12 stops a day. Lots of hard weather and hard approaches. All over the US. Thanks for sharing a great video & well done. You are very thorough.
This should be labeled "Toughest Pre-Flight!" In the seat. Out of the seat. In. Out. In. Out. Out door, switch on battery, in door, latch door. Sit down. Start engines.... Flying can be exhausting!
Taxiing in to end the flight, Greg has a couple questions for his new right seater. Q: "Hey, has this been your first private jet ride?" A: "Yeah." Q: "OK, first, uh, first approach to minimums in the front seat?" A: "Yeah." Greg: "OK, got some firsts in." Right Seater Thinking: 'Boy, I'm sure glad he didn't ask me how close I approached pooping my pants during the last moments of my very first right seat private jet ride. Whew....'
I just found your channel last week and I’m combing through all of your videos. Great channel for perspective pilots like myself...I learn a lot here! This landing was CRAZY! Great job staying calm and knowing your aircraft!
Working the radio for a low hour pilot must be terrifying. Don't have much time right now to watch the videos with construction season in full swing but still love that aircraft and it's smooth performance. Getting ready to fly out in couple days from IND to BUR via DEN for vacation and lucked out on a seat on a smaller jet (76 seats) which cost me a pretty penny but I'm getting so turned off with commercial flying that I'm willing to pay a little extra to fly on smaller a/c with much fewer passengers to make the trips more enjoyable. Never been on a small jet like yours but it's on my bucket list.
Man, that runway came out of nowhere! That's unnerving to say the least, Greg. I've loved all your videos but this one actually had me squirming in my seat. I hope my first private jet ride(if there is one) will NOT be a repeat of this one! (LOL)
One uses to only think of the nice part of doing the piloting and all that. Thanks for showing also the part of squeezing to the seat! It adds the 'reality' bit for those of us who will never have the chance to get into one of those cockpits :) EDIT: Oh, and those comments about the simulator are so encouraging.
I love watching you fly. I skip lunch some days to watch you instead. I would love to go for a ride and I only live a few miles from Xavier if that helps :-)
Great Job! Old saying, ''Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach''! Don't worry about the ''experts''. You have probably been asked this before, but what are the two plates protruding from below the leading edge adjacent to the fuel filler?
the fact that anybody is giving this guy crap about minimums needs to just stick to their armchair simulators and be quiet because this guy is the real deal, he knows what hes doing and I promise there's something you all are not understanding.
Observation. The approach plate gives a missed approach altitude of 1122' and the field elevation is 922' so 200'agl. I would think the annunciator would announce in MSL. It seems to be announcing in AGL. If the pilot of this plane had to refer to his altimeter it would be reading in MSL so there's almost an extra math step while descending down to DA. Do I have this right? Perhaps there's a setting?
It announces in MSL or AGL depending on what you had selected. I think I discuss this in the info section. Take a look at that as it may answer your questions.
I'm a pastor not a pilot love to fly spent a lot of time in an old sakorsky. S-55 fixed wing a couple other commercial never had opportunity to learn but I enjoy watching your videos no harsh language instruments very intriguing anyway what does squawk mean when you hear A.T.C. use that term.
Great trip....was second one of your trips I have enjoyed. If you are ever in the mood to take the DEN/NAS trip would love to take with you...on old pilot, still keeping my wings wet. Have a fishing business and home on Andros, so if you're ready, the end pf trip will be on me ! Dino Keller PS: You are an enjoyable and very professional, again..thanks for the ride!!!
From the video (camera view) it really looks the rwy environment was visible well after the Decision ALTITUDE call ( height does not apply for a Cat I approach). Having the rwy no approach light system it makes the task of identifying it much harder...
Used to fly out and into RFD back in the early 80's when I was there for school. Professor had his PPL. Flew up to FCM to bring my girlfriend at the time home to Minnetonka, MN and back.
Was that an Eclipse under the canopy at Indy Exec? Also, sounded like the twin behind you was doing a practice approach, which may have been another reason they sent you in first. Good IFR practice for him!
One of my favorite videos! Reminds me of a commercial flight I took from DEN to ORD in the middle of winter busting out what seemed to be below minimums with a big crosswind. I have no idea what it looked like from the cockpit, but when the mains touched down (I was at the very back of the plane)--I was sitting about 15 feet left of where I was a split second ago. Your landing was a lot nicer.
I have watched this four times and every time I am on the edge of my seat.. I am going to try to save enough money to buy the new Microsoft Flight simulator the pro edition because I was a pilot many years ago my health went bad and now I am 70 I would like to feel that thrill one more time and I think the MFS just might be able to let me feel that again.I remember the feeling when I was going to take off knowing I and God was the only ones in there.Well I made it.Then I found out that was not the hard part.. Landing was,, Wish me luck that I can get Microsoft Flight Simulator.... And I will fly along with you.."BE SAFE" BUSTER
Excellent video. My only question is the lack of checklists and briefings. I understand he was a 172 pilot who had about as much chance as my mother if he had to take over, but am I wrong it would still be a good practice to always use checklists and do full briefings regardless? Apologies if I misunderstand.
Great retort for the keyboard warriors out there P1D. Nobody knows the real deal unless you're actually there. Who in their right mind would post to TH-cam a regulations infringement??? Love your channel good Sir!
That was a awesome minimum IFR approach! I know it looks “very hairy” on video and better In person but that was a very impressive demonstration of superior airmanship! Nice work.
I'm not sure how anyone who WASN'T in the cockpit can declare with 100% certainty that minimums were busted. Like you said, what the camera angle sees and what the pilot sees aren't necessarily the same thing. How many times do cameras not pick up traffic, or not give a clear view of the field when the pilot has it in sight? Ahh the joys of Internet "experts"...
Dominick ATX I have asked several airline pilots if they ever went below minimums. All replied that they are expected to do as necessary to meet schedules.
@@sarahwatson7692 This is irrelevant here. The point that was being made was that this flight did not bust minimums. If everyone else and their uncle do it for schedule's sake, it's another matter altogether.
This is the second of your videos I've watched. But this was particularly relevant to me, as I worked every one of those Chicago Center sectors through which you flew (and many more besides). I was a controller at ZAU for 25 years (with 5 more before that at another facility). I'll tell you a little inside joke. AHMED sits on V10 in the PLANO sector. I didn't have need to use it very often, but when I did, I always pronounced it as "ACHMED", as it might be in a language with "ah" in the word. I don't know if anyone else ever did, but it made me chuckle when I heard it in your clearance. I've been gone for 20 years now, so I didn't recognize any voices, but 127.07 and 135.75 were definitely frequencies I spent a lot of time working from 1973 through 1997. Oh, and I'm also an instrument rated pilot, so I get off on that, too. All of my training was in the age of dinosaurs with steam gauges ('66/'67), so all of that discussion of simulators also made me chuckle. One word defines the difference between the simulator experience and real airplane experience: Gs. Also might as well include control feedback, too, but nothing substitutes for bouncing around in the practice area on a partly cloudy day in South Florida during the summer.
LRod Peterson I just took my first flying lesson last weekend. There are no words that describe what happens to a simulator enthusiast who pulls back on the stick to take off and just feels it. Mind. Blown.
@@ryuhaneda As a flight simulator enthusiast, can you imagine sitting back seat on an L-39 Albatross. I had Janes FA/18 and I swear, watching the clouds, it was amazingly close. Though, only in sight. The G's, just don't come close, LOL. Hope you got your license - haven't started mine yet, but I hope to start soon.
Greg. As a 50 year pilot with lots of similar approaches, I think you were right on. Too many people are “Back Seat” drivers with no actual experience. I really enjoy your videos. That way I can remember and relive my own approaches. Thanks 😎😎
You broke minimums. I know because I live two miles south of the Luke AFB runway and my Dad's name is on the F-104 on static display at Luke. Therefore, I am an expert. Now I will get back to critiquing Tiger Woods golf swing as an 18 handicap. HAHA.
@@farzana6676 - Beech was bought by Raytheon, then parts of it Raytheon sold, etc. It's been kind of crazy the last few decades. My father worked for them doing avionics and sheet metal for 25 - 30 years (not counting layoffs).
Nice job. Also excellent written intro, speaking as an old CFI, excellent instructional video. I don't fly any more (busted medical .. heh) ... but videos like this make me wish I did. Thanks for posting it!
Your final comments hit it right on the head. You know your plane and fly way out in front and know where all the planes are in your area and where they are going. Spot on just an absolute great landing unlike the one against Stevo.
Greg...your YT videos are fun and educational. Don’t let comments by self-appointed experts bug you! Keep the vids coming for those who appreciate your skill.
Pilot: Has this been your first private jet ride? Passenger: Yeah. Pilot: O.K. First, aahh first approach to minimums in the front seat? Passenger: Yup. Pilot: aand, first time pissing yourself on an airplane? Passenger: You betcha!
Hi, Greg! Your videos are interesting, informative, and entertaining, but most of all they are a significant contribution to safety consciousness in aviation. Your thoroughly professional approach is an inspiration to all of us who fly - and you allow plenty of room for having fun, too. Congratulations on your efforts and successes.
You know nothing about the man. If this is the best you have, take it somewhere else. Your comments are neither needed nor welcome. One more "keyboard maggot" with an opinion no one cares about.
HabuBeemer: What an ignoramus you are! Here is what I do know about Greg. He is the consummate professional pilot flying his own incredible airplane, sharing his high quality ideas and experiences with all of us. I, as a commercial/instrument pilot, am fully qualified to comment with authority on the value of his contributions, and they are the best. Further, Greg, as an officer and a gentleman, having served our country honorably flying the complex F-16, has defended our freedom with distinction. That’s all I need to know about this man.
About as close as you could come to minimums! I love this video. I have watched it many times but for some reason never left a comment. You are a "cool" pilot. Great video!
When you popped out of the cloud and the runway was less than 50 feet below you, well sir, my respect. I think your right seat was perhaps a little more apprehensive than he let on 👍
"Minimums are minimums. Don't ever proceed below them without having the runway environment in sight. Never. It's really that simple". Probably the best explanation of a minimum I've seen in years. Thank you sir. Subs.
There is no greater feeling than knowing you can fly in IMC and land safely. I was in awe when I accomplished my first real instrument landing at minimums in a Piper Aztec E. As Greg mentioned at the end, the first item on the checklist is always the pilot's comfort level in flying in IMC especially at minimums. Same thing goes for M.E.L'.s Don't fly just because your working equiment is legal. If there are items/systems not working that make you feel unfcomfortable then get them fixed before you fly.
Thank you SO MUCH for calling and canceling “as soon as practical” I wish everyone was as cognizant of the impact (especially on IFR days) as you were!
I learned to fly at Rockford and have heard you numerous times flying around the country. The next time I hear you im giving you a shoutout. I am 25 and fly for the regionals.
My extended comments regarding the ILS approach shown in Greg’s video. The Instrument rating is by far the most challenging of all the ratings one can add to their certificate. It also requires the longest training period of any of the pilot ratings (save for perhaps the CFI oral). There is a very good reason for the minimum of 40 hours (most take 60-70) of training to successfully pass the Instrument Oral and Checkride (typically in a SE prop)! WHY? Because it’s a complex rating that requires excellent aircraft skills and while often overlooked a good deal of book and regulation knowledge. So before one can comment intelligently on this video (especially regarding if the approach not in compliance with regulations) hopefully one already has an Instrument Rating. If not, well I suggest you read FAA-8083-16B and FAA-8083 15B books. The over 700 pages that make up the Instrument Procedures Handbook and Instrument Flying Handbook will give you a good start as to what is going on during this flight. As far a executing an ILS approach (as this video shows) there a a few facts one needs to keep in mind. ILS are precision approaches (has an electronic glide slope for vertical navigation to the runway) and a Localizer for lateral guidance. The approach is determined by two factors if one can successfully land; DH (decision height) and Visibility. One of which is controlling. What are these for an ILS? I have no idea. Every ILS is different and each has different visibility requirement and a different Decision Height. How I find out what they are is by the published procedure for the approach (the approach plate). Typically. however, it is 200 ft DH and 1/2 mile of visibility (for a Category I approach). VISIBILITY is the controlling factor! Its the visibility that determines if we can continue past the DH and land the airplane. How is the decision height measured is also a good question. Find out (hint, it will not be verbally announced and not shown on that fancy radar altimeter). Who determines this visibility that is controlling (that infamous 1/2 mile) ? Well, let’s quote the instrument Handbook for the answer: IAP Minimums Pilots may not operate an aircraft at any airport below the authorized MDA or continue an approach below the authorized DA/DH unless: 1. The aircraft is continuously in a position from which a descent to a landing on the intended runway can be made at a normal descent rate using normal maneuvers; 2. The flight visibility is not less than that prescribed for the approach procedure being used; and 3. At least one of the following visual references for the intended runway is visible and identifiable to the pilot: . a) Approach light system . b) Threshold . c) Threshold markings . d) Threshold lights . e) Runway end identifier lights (REIL) . f) Visual approach slope indicator (VASI) . g) Touchdown zone or touchdown zone markings . h) Touchdown zone lights . i) Runway or runway markings . j) Runway lights OK, so can you land? How do you determine Item 2 above? Again, from the FAA books: Landing According to 14 CFR part 91, no pilot may land when the flight visibility is less than the visibility prescribed in the standard IAP being used. ATC provides the pilot with the current visibility reports appropriate to the runway in use. This may be in the form of prevailing visibility, runway visual value (RVV), or runway visual range (RVR). However, only the pilot can determine if the flight visibility meets the landing requirements indicated on the approach chart. If the flight visibility meets the minimum prescribed for the approach, then the approach may be continued to a landing. If the flight visibility is less than that prescribed for the approach, then the pilot must execute a missed approach regardless of the reported visibility. I see NOTHING in the regs about using cameras for any of this! Or what we see from the cameras he has running during his flight! So, as I said in the other comment, no one but Greg can make the visibility determination, and he has that his responsibility. If all the above guidelines are met, then this ILS was normal and successfully executed. To say anything to the contrary is not only making assumptions you cannot make, but you had to be literally sitting with him in that flight deck. Neither being the case with anyone viewing this video. In the end, if he landed (and yes his experience is an important part here) then I’m 100% sure the approach was perfectly legal. Like Greg said, would he publish something for thousand to see that could cost him is certificates or face FAA actions? I seriously doubt that! No comment about the reconfiguration after landing (slapping your hand again on that one) Chet, ATP and a CFII along with a few other ratings! Oh and I was CAT II current and qualified. Now if you want to talk about LOW, look up those minimums :) (Note, all typo’s and errors are mine)
>No comment about the reconfiguration after landing (slapping your hand again on that one) Agree....that would get a pink slip on an ATP check ride as would phone dialing, etc.. I do appreciate your efforts on these videos BUT I would urge you follow the sterile cockpit rule. Remember there are neophytes watching you as an example of how it should be done. TBoone ATP, Eagle
Wall of text but entirely true. This also isn't ATP. There is no restrictions on phone dialing or sterile cockpit. Comparing an ATP to a PPL is 'plane' stupid :)
"Greg (the pilot) has an ATP and is held to ATP standards." The sterile cockpit is for Part 121 and 135. It does not apply to Part 91 flights such as this.
Years ago coming from west coast to JFK into a major blow we encountered almost exact minimum condition combined with heavy presip and 40 mph winds on a 747 after 35 min holding pattern we had a navy pilot that landed that monster fast and hard we where on the right side gear crabbing the wing tip was only what looked like inches off the the tarmac , put it this way I was mid ship looking down the runway !!!! A passenger !!! Every one was gasping and praying but my man got us down safely , God bless the navy
I chuckled in the beginning - that is ME to a TEE, hahaha! I'd be in and out of that seat 6x before I remembered everything ... on EVERY flight! At 5'4" & 160 I'd probably have a bit of an easier time getting between the seats, though. I could probably stand there without ducking ... :D Man, that was some SOCKED-IN fog there! WOW - that was a first for me as well. Never have watched a video of IFR right to minimums before. Have to admit, I probably would've been a little nervous on that one. :) Nice job, as usual! Love when the clouds are right below you at cruise - I get a better perspective of just how fast you're going. Love that! I could even see the difference in takeoff performance over your summer videos - came through and away from the clouds REAL fast! Must've been fun - I know that would never get old for me. Thanks for the virtual ride, as always! :)
Alaskan Herc Pilot, King Airs too. 2,500 hrs. T-38IP in TX before that. Yep as others below have said, loved watching this flight in the weather. Lotsa days like that at PAED in and out of Cape Romanzof, Cape Newenham, Indian Mtn., Cape Lisburne, Sparrevohn, and others, Radar Stations - all, four of them "one-way" sites. Not to mention just getting home to Elmendorf. The FARs state that you must see the "landing environment" by minimums, which is clearly what was seen even on the video. Anyone stating otherwise, has no experience with IFR aviation (actual poor weather conditions). It was routine in AK. This gentleman, knows what he is doing. Evidenced by the fact that he's got a 12 yr old next to him. Plus, he gets to drive into a covered shelter waiting for him. I'd carry his bags any day. Which, if you are not a military pilot, you have no idea what I mean.
In fact on really poor-vis days, with two qualified pilots, right-seater would fly the approach on instruments and stay on them. The other would be watching outside and ready to take the aircraft to land it, while the other stayed on the instruments in case the other lost sight again (below mins) - it would happen. We did this at Galena one day and at minimums, the left seater could just barely see the rabbits even though when I took a peak outside, I couldn't see them. He took the aircraft and landed it. We were very familiar with the field and knew what to expect to see at that end of the airfield (first...Yukon River bank, then runway overrun, lights, threshold. Awesome experience - flying in conditions that kept our skills razor sharp.
I like how that was timed so that the ground appeared just as the radar altimeter was announcing minimums minimums! Co pilot should be more impressed....
All right!!!!! Finally! I’ve been sitting here in my living room watching P1Driver videos on my TV(TH-cam.) But I just realized “my comments” were turned off! They’re on now! Yee Haw! What’s up Greg? You’re a Bad Man!!!! Love your brand! The baddest flyin Man in the land Must be your brand!!!!! Haha.....ok so as I’m enjoying your flying plan I’m also enjoying the tunes so please turn’em back on! Thanks in advance! Also, I’d like some more of your flying history as well as some info on that BA Red Porsche(?) you drive! Correct me if I’m wrong on that. Anyway, why not do a video or two on that car? Check this out: P1D Air & Land versions? DFW Resident!
Great and very professional flying and landing. And you never disappoint by the useful knowledge that you shared with not only your passenger but your family on TH-cam. Once again as my grandfather once said... knowledge that is not shared is wasted knowledge. Thanks Greg!!!!!!
Thank you for sharing this amazing journey with us. Could you please tell me the maximum height this jet could fly and you were flying at? I might have missed about it during the video. Thank you.
As a pilot with 50 years experience. Let me concur with you that no minimums were busted. Been there. Done that. Nice job. 😎😎
Right on Doug, if people would read the reg very carefully, they would understand there were no minimums broken. The day I got my instrument rating, I had to fly back to my home airport and my approach looked exactly like this. Scared me a bit, but didn't break any regs.
Is there a short answer fo, what does it mean "no minimums were busted"?
@@jdmoore minimums are the lowest altitude where if you cant see the runway, you have to go "missed" and retry the approach
@@HyperDrive45 not being a pilot, just enjoying these videos: what happens when theres fog around the airport and theres no way you can see the runway directly? Do you have to go to a different airport then?
@@Jannikheu yes that is correct. Flying in these conditions requires a flight plan, talk with air traffic control, and planned alternate airports. Getting your instrument rating so you can fly in these IFR conditions is an expensive endeavor.
First video of actually down "to minimums". Great job. Love watching you fly.
I thought I had it rough when I once had to stick my head out my car window in the fog just to see the divider line on the street to steer correctly. That landing made me nervous just watching it. You fully had confidence in your instruments to make a great landing. Great ending comment to know your plane.
First of all, thank you for your service. I was enlisted Air Force. I appreciate your straightforward response to those who criticized you. I would not like to try to be an "expert" to a professional pilot such as you. Another thing, I live over on the west side of Indiana, so you aren't that far away from me. I didn't realize that you were based here. Safe flying and once again, thank you for your service.
I flew freight, passengers & cargo in metro liners with up to 12 stops a day. Lots of hard weather and hard approaches. All over the US. Thanks for sharing a great video & well done. You are very thorough.
Lynda Parrish Both of the Metoliners I’ve seen had steam gauges and no autopilot. That must have been exhausting.
@@williameudy6615 it WAS but the flight experience and the landings were a big plus that not many pilots get.
This should be labeled "Toughest Pre-Flight!" In the seat. Out of the seat. In. Out. In. Out. Out door, switch on battery, in door, latch door. Sit down. Start engines.... Flying can be exhausting!
Figured you guys would get a laugh out of it.
BUT you are very FLEXIBLE!
I believe P1D's motto should be "Up for anything, Ready for everything!"
Taxiing in to end the flight, Greg has a couple questions for his new right seater. Q: "Hey, has this been your first private jet ride?" A: "Yeah." Q: "OK, first, uh, first approach to minimums in the front seat?" A: "Yeah." Greg: "OK, got some firsts in." Right Seater Thinking: 'Boy, I'm sure glad he didn't ask me how close I approached pooping my pants during the last moments of my very first right seat private jet ride. Whew....'
Dave Bayles It makes my back ache just watching the movements. Us old guys aren’t made for a squeeze in and out.
Wore my eyes out searching for the ground, and, I stopped breathing, What a joy to watch a pro, thank you.
I just found your channel last week and I’m combing through all of your videos. Great channel for perspective pilots like myself...I learn a lot here! This landing was CRAZY! Great job staying calm and knowing your aircraft!
Working the radio for a low hour pilot must be terrifying. Don't have much time right now to watch the videos with construction season in full swing but still love that aircraft and it's smooth performance. Getting ready to fly out in couple days from IND to BUR via DEN for vacation and lucked out on a seat on a smaller jet (76 seats) which cost me a pretty penny but I'm getting so turned off with commercial flying that I'm willing to pay a little extra to fly on smaller a/c with much fewer passengers to make the trips more enjoyable. Never been on a small jet like yours but it's on my bucket list.
Man, that runway came out of nowhere! That's unnerving to say the least, Greg. I've loved all your videos but this one actually had me squirming in my seat. I hope my first private jet ride(if there is one) will NOT be a repeat of this one! (LOL)
One word for that approach - “wow dats low ceiling for sure!”.
One uses to only think of the nice part of doing the piloting and all that.
Thanks for showing also the part of squeezing to the seat! It adds the 'reality' bit for those of us who will never have the chance to get into one of those cockpits :)
EDIT: Oh, and those comments about the simulator are so encouraging.
Very nice flight Premier 1, nice to see how calm you were right down to minimums. Enjoyed it. Thanks.
Pretty cool,watching you come in to Indy down to minimums, Thanks for the ride.
I love watching you fly. I skip lunch some days to watch you instead. I would love to go for a ride and I only live a few miles from Xavier if that helps :-)
Its taken me about 5 videos to realize youre not saying "Zergoff-Mike"
Zero Gulf Mic I think
Great video. I'm also a Flight Simulator pilot. I feel a bit safe with the "pause" button in the simulator...LOL. Safe flying!!
WOW P1 nice video. Working though my IFR training now though not in a jet but in a little tailwheel Citabria and loving it.
Nice job. I have to say, I was nervous watching that. Love your videos.
Thank you!
Another awesome flight I totally enjoyed! Blessings as Always!
As always, very nice ILS approach minimums. Wish it was me in right seat. Will check out your website. Thanks
Great Job! Old saying, ''Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach''! Don't worry about the ''experts''. You have probably been asked this before, but what are the two plates protruding from below the leading edge adjacent to the fuel filler?
the fact that anybody is giving this guy crap about minimums needs to just stick to their armchair simulators and be quiet because this guy is the real deal, he knows what hes doing and I promise there's something you all are not understanding.
Observation. The approach plate gives a missed approach altitude of 1122' and the field elevation is 922' so 200'agl. I would think the annunciator would announce in MSL. It seems to be announcing in AGL. If the pilot of this plane had to refer to his altimeter it would be reading in MSL so there's almost an extra math step while descending down to DA.
Do I have this right?
Perhaps there's a setting?
It announces in MSL or AGL depending on what you had selected. I think I discuss this in the info section. Take a look at that as it may answer your questions.
I'm a pastor not a pilot love to fly spent a lot of time in an old sakorsky. S-55 fixed wing a couple other commercial never had opportunity to learn but I enjoy watching your videos no harsh language instruments very intriguing anyway what does squawk mean when you hear A.T.C. use that term.
It is a unique 4 number code that is sent to the ATC that helps them positively identify the aircraft on radar.
Great trip....was second one of your trips I have enjoyed. If you are ever in the mood to take the
DEN/NAS trip would love to take with you...on old pilot, still keeping my wings wet. Have a fishing business and home on Andros, so if you're ready, the end pf trip will be on me !
Dino Keller PS: You are an enjoyable and very professional, again..thanks for the ride!!!
Sounds great!
lol I love your comments about the minimums. Somebody smart told me "don't wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy but the pig likes it"
From the video (camera view) it really looks the rwy environment was visible well after the Decision ALTITUDE call ( height does not apply for a Cat I approach). Having the rwy no approach light system it makes the task of identifying it much harder...
Height isn’t used for CATI, news to me- why do aircraft set DH.
Hey premier 1, do your radio comments reflect your Air Force background?
Testicles made of steel, bro'. Nice job!!
Used to fly out and into RFD back in the early 80's when I was there for school. Professor had his PPL. Flew up to FCM to bring my girlfriend at the time home to Minnetonka, MN and back.
Awesome job Greg!!!! 👍
Been there as passenger flying in to Bethel Alaska years ago......Bush pilot is a beast .....lol
Great job, Pilot.
Greg that was an exciting landing!
Was that an Eclipse under the canopy at Indy Exec? Also, sounded like the twin behind you was doing a practice approach, which may have been another reason they sent you in first. Good IFR practice for him!
I believe that was an Eclipse.
DCS is an awesome computer sim for the viper
hello Capt. Greg, great video again, thanks for sharing, quieck question. . .. , how many more pilots get to fly 390GM ?
Just me.
One of my favorite videos! Reminds me of a commercial flight I took from DEN to ORD in the middle of winter busting out what seemed to be below minimums with a big crosswind. I have no idea what it looked like from the cockpit, but when the mains touched down (I was at the very back of the plane)--I was sitting about 15 feet left of where I was a split second ago.
Your landing was a lot nicer.
I have watched this four times and every time I am on the edge of my seat.. I am going to try to save enough money to buy the new Microsoft Flight simulator the pro edition because I was a pilot many years ago my health went bad and now I am 70 I would like to feel that thrill one more time and I think the MFS just might be able to let me feel that again.I remember the feeling when I was going to take off knowing I and God was the only ones in there.Well I made it.Then I found out that was not the hard part.. Landing was,, Wish me luck that I can get Microsoft Flight Simulator.... And I will fly along with you.."BE SAFE" BUSTER
This is a beautiful plane!
I think you need a bigger plane with a bigger cockpit mate hahaha , Great videos as usual :-)
Very informative thanks Jack in BTR / Baton Rouge.
Thanks Jack!
Excellent video. My only question is the lack of checklists and briefings. I understand he was a 172 pilot who had about as much chance as my mother if he had to take over, but am I wrong it would still be a good practice to always use checklists and do full briefings regardless? Apologies if I misunderstand.
Wade Williams the checklists are on the MFD. You can see me running one on the taxi out.
@@gregmink Thanks for the clarification!
Unbelieveable landing I couldn't see a thing.
This is a layman's question, but wouldn't be safer to use anti-collision lights?
Great retort for the keyboard warriors out there P1D. Nobody knows the real deal unless you're actually there. Who in their right mind would post to TH-cam a regulations infringement??? Love your channel good Sir!
Just a suggestion, if you wear a headset from the start, we will be better able to hear you better.
No you won't because the Intercom system isn't operating until the main bus is on line.
Great Flight.. Do you have any of your old F-16 footage or pic's?
JR I do. Will try to incorporate it in future videos
Thanks… If you are ever out to Camarillo, Ca and need me to wash to muck off your windshield or add 3 and 1 oil I'm you man...
Great comment at the very end !!!
That was awesome. Thanks.
In Alaska we call weather like that: Tuesday.
OldCoastie725 and to think some places get that weather for months at a time.
Why Tuesday?
Jean François he means it’s just another day of the week with the same weather.
OldCoastie I Flew in and out of Kodiak Space Base USCG Air Station in C-130's for 3 yrs. I Rodger that!
Yup. Looks okay to me but I would miss the half inch of rime a minute we get around here, on a good day.
That was a awesome minimum IFR approach! I know it looks “very hairy” on video and better In person but that was a very impressive demonstration of superior airmanship! Nice work.
Professional use of autopilot.
This is where 1,000’s of military flight hours in all conditions become your best friend.
aman bro. you are right on i flew from 1978- 1983 i had a cherokee 140 and a warror my two flight instructors were ex-milayary they were awesome
@@michaelgiordano5938 Damn you can have instructors in Mircrosof Flight Simulator !! ?
wish I could just keep hitting thumbs-up on this comment.
I'm not sure how anyone who WASN'T in the cockpit can declare with 100% certainty that minimums were busted. Like you said, what the camera angle sees and what the pilot sees aren't necessarily the same thing. How many times do cameras not pick up traffic, or not give a clear view of the field when the pilot has it in sight? Ahh the joys of Internet "experts"...
Dominick ATX I have asked several airline pilots if they ever went below minimums. All replied that they are expected to do as necessary to meet schedules.
@@sarahwatson7692 This is irrelevant here. The point that was being made was that this flight did not bust minimums. If everyone else and their uncle do it for schedule's sake, it's another matter altogether.
@@sarahwatson7692so true, people have no idea how Airlines cut corners everyday to save time on the ground and in the air. .
@@yuridelcastillo220 False. As an airline pilot with decades of experience, that statement is simply not true.
@@coriscotupi country and western duets
Screw those who leave neg comments .. I love watching your vids !! very entertaining TY
and educational!
This is just another dream channel. I speak facts.
Haters
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This is the second of your videos I've watched. But this was particularly relevant to me, as I worked every one of those Chicago Center sectors through which you flew (and many more besides). I was a controller at ZAU for 25 years (with 5 more before that at another facility).
I'll tell you a little inside joke. AHMED sits on V10 in the PLANO sector. I didn't have need to use it very often, but when I did, I always pronounced it as "ACHMED", as it might be in a language with "ah" in the word. I don't know if anyone else ever did, but it made me chuckle when I heard it in your clearance.
I've been gone for 20 years now, so I didn't recognize any voices, but 127.07 and 135.75 were definitely frequencies I spent a lot of time working from 1973 through 1997. Oh, and I'm also an instrument rated pilot, so I get off on that, too. All of my training was in the age of dinosaurs with steam gauges ('66/'67), so all of that discussion of simulators also made me chuckle. One word defines the difference between the simulator experience and real airplane experience: Gs. Also might as well include control feedback, too, but nothing substitutes for bouncing around in the practice area on a partly cloudy day in South Florida during the summer.
LRod Peterson I just took my first flying lesson last weekend. There are no words that describe what happens to a simulator enthusiast who pulls back on the stick to take off and just feels it. Mind. Blown.
@@ryuhaneda As a flight simulator enthusiast, can you imagine sitting back seat on an L-39 Albatross. I had Janes FA/18 and I swear, watching the clouds, it was amazingly close. Though, only in sight. The G's, just don't come close, LOL. Hope you got your license - haven't started mine yet, but I hope to start soon.
Greg. As a 50 year pilot with lots of similar approaches, I think you were right on. Too many people are “Back Seat” drivers with no actual experience. I really enjoy your videos. That way I can remember and relive my own approaches. Thanks 😎😎
AGREE!
Well said
Can't believe I'm watching entire flights on TH-cam! I envy you pilots!
You broke minimums. I know because I live two miles south of the Luke AFB runway and my Dad's name is on the F-104 on static display at Luke. Therefore, I am an expert. Now I will get back to critiquing Tiger Woods golf swing as an 18 handicap. HAHA.
You sound like a couple of my other "expert" commenters. :-)
WOW - low no kidding. It reminds me of flying into Munich.
Love the acceleration on take off, that thing moves!
What is the name of this bird
@@farzana6676 - Beech Premiere 1A (might be 1 and not 1A)
@@jarodmorris611 Thanks.
I see that company filed for bankruptcy and only produces prop planes now.
@@farzana6676 - Beech was bought by Raytheon, then parts of it Raytheon sold, etc. It's been kind of crazy the last few decades. My father worked for them doing avionics and sheet metal for 25 - 30 years (not counting layoffs).
Nice job. Also excellent written intro, speaking as an old CFI, excellent instructional video. I don't fly any more (busted medical .. heh) ... but videos like this make me wish I did. Thanks for posting it!
Your final comments hit it right on the head. You know your plane and fly way out in front and know where all the planes are in your area and where they are going. Spot on just an absolute great landing unlike the one against Stevo.
All the Navy guys thought my landing was better. ;-)
Great video as usual!
LSO...............Premier1 Call the ball....
As a Navy guy, I think your landing with Steveo/Baron Guy was good, 2 wire. LOL
Hooyah, Navy!
Greg...your YT videos are fun and educational. Don’t let comments by self-appointed experts bug you! Keep the vids coming for those who appreciate your skill.
Agreed!
Pilot: Has this been your first private jet ride?
Passenger: Yeah.
Pilot: O.K. First, aahh first approach to minimums in the front seat?
Passenger: Yup.
Pilot: aand, first time pissing yourself on an airplane?
Passenger: You betcha!
LOL
Hi, Greg! Your videos are interesting, informative, and entertaining, but most of all they are a significant contribution to safety consciousness in aviation. Your thoroughly professional approach is an inspiration to all of us who fly - and you allow plenty of room for having fun, too. Congratulations on your efforts and successes.
You know nothing about the man. If this is the best you have, take it somewhere else. Your comments are neither needed nor welcome. One more "keyboard maggot" with an opinion no one cares about.
JHO Jr. haha you could have just said “I’m jealous” and saved yourself a lot of typing.
@@masterspacetime2826 This is the stupidest comment I've read on the internet this week. And that's saying a lot.
HabuBeemer: What an ignoramus you are! Here is what I do know about Greg. He is the consummate professional pilot flying his own incredible airplane, sharing his high quality ideas and experiences with all of us. I, as a commercial/instrument pilot, am fully qualified to comment with authority on the value of his contributions, and they are the best. Further, Greg, as an officer and a gentleman, having served our country honorably flying the complex F-16, has defended our freedom with distinction. That’s all I need to know about this man.
@@pkettler Interesting Mr Kettler. Someone expresses a personal opinion different to your own, and on that basis alone, you brand them an ignoramus?
thats crazy man, literally the moment they got the minimums call the perimeter road of the airport popped into view. as close as it gets
Wow. I was watching safely from my easy chair and still got sweaty palms on that one....
Great job, Greg👍🏻
That was pure skill and disciplined preparation! Well done
About as close as you could come to minimums! I love this video. I have watched it many times but for some reason never left a comment. You are a "cool" pilot. Great video!
In a word: IMPRESSIVE! I love the professionalism that you embody as I am sure it bleeds through to all prospective or current pilots.
Another great video Greg! I took my instrument check ride last Saturday, 1/13. Success! Keep showing those IMC approaches. Take care.
Congrats Stan!
When you popped out of the cloud and the runway was less than 50 feet below you, well sir, my respect. I think your right seat was perhaps a little more apprehensive than he let on 👍
"Minimums are minimums. Don't ever proceed below them without having the runway environment in sight. Never. It's really that simple". Probably the best explanation of a minimum I've seen in years. Thank you sir. Subs.
There is no greater feeling than knowing you can fly in IMC and land safely. I was in awe when I accomplished my first real instrument landing at minimums in a Piper Aztec E. As Greg mentioned at the end, the first item on the checklist is always the pilot's comfort level in flying in IMC especially at minimums. Same thing goes for M.E.L'.s Don't fly just because your working equiment is legal. If there are items/systems not working that make you feel unfcomfortable then get them fixed before you fly.
A FANTASTIC BLANKET OF CLOUDS AN INCREDIBLE FLIGHT AND EXCITING TOO!...THANKS PREMIER 1!
Thank you SO MUCH for calling and canceling “as soon as practical” I wish everyone was as cognizant of the impact (especially on IFR days) as you were!
My pet peeve for sure. Not canceling IFR with any urgency. Safety of flight first though!
Premier 1 Driver absolutely fly your airplane first, as a controller at IND we always appreciate your quick cancelations!!!
One of the downfalls of cockpits is having someone's "junk" shoved in your face upon entry/exit.
Love your vids man!
That's why it's called a cockpit!
I learned to fly at Rockford and have heard you numerous times flying around the country. The next time I hear you im giving you a shoutout. I am 25 and fly for the regionals.
Congrats! You are in a good spot!
Enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing your flight.
Incredible! I've always wanted to fly, but I'm always amazed at tower conversations. For me that would be the hardest part!
It's not that hard once you know the linguo, most of it is repeating what the controllers say to you
They always, some do, not all, talk too fast. I fly with son in a 152 and I am always asking what they say?
I never get tired of flying along with ya Greg. Each time ya put a video up I’m there flying with ya. Very enjoyable.
I did catch a glimps of the ground on your left wing.
My extended comments regarding the ILS approach shown in Greg’s video.
The Instrument rating is by far the most challenging of all the ratings one can add to their certificate. It also requires the longest training period of any of the pilot ratings (save for perhaps the CFI oral). There is a very good reason for the minimum of 40 hours (most take 60-70) of training to successfully pass the Instrument Oral and Checkride (typically in a SE prop)! WHY? Because it’s a complex rating that requires excellent aircraft skills and while often overlooked a good deal of book and regulation knowledge.
So before one can comment intelligently on this video (especially regarding if the approach not in compliance with regulations) hopefully one already has an Instrument Rating. If not, well I suggest you read FAA-8083-16B and FAA-8083 15B books. The over 700 pages that make up the Instrument Procedures Handbook and Instrument Flying Handbook will give you a good start as to what is going on during this flight.
As far a executing an ILS approach (as this video shows) there a a few facts one needs to keep in mind. ILS are precision approaches (has an electronic glide slope for vertical navigation to the runway) and a Localizer for lateral guidance. The approach is determined by two factors if one can successfully land; DH (decision height) and Visibility. One of which is controlling.
What are these for an ILS? I have no idea.
Every ILS is different and each has different visibility requirement and a different Decision Height. How I find out what they are is by the published procedure for the approach (the approach plate). Typically. however, it is 200 ft DH and 1/2 mile of visibility (for a Category I approach).
VISIBILITY is the controlling factor! Its the visibility that determines if we can continue past the DH and land the airplane. How is the decision height measured is also a good question. Find out (hint, it will not be verbally announced and not shown on that fancy radar altimeter).
Who determines this visibility that is controlling (that infamous 1/2 mile) ? Well, let’s quote the instrument Handbook for the answer:
IAP Minimums
Pilots may not operate an aircraft at any airport below the authorized MDA or continue an approach below the authorized DA/DH unless:
1. The aircraft is continuously in a position from which a descent to a landing on the intended runway can be made at a normal descent rate using normal maneuvers;
2. The flight visibility is not less than that prescribed for the approach procedure being used; and
3. At least one of the following visual references for the intended runway is visible and identifiable to the pilot:
. a) Approach light system
. b) Threshold
. c) Threshold markings
. d) Threshold lights
. e) Runway end identifier lights (REIL)
. f) Visual approach slope indicator (VASI)
. g) Touchdown zone or touchdown zone markings
. h) Touchdown zone lights
. i) Runway or runway markings
. j) Runway lights
OK, so can you land? How do you determine Item 2 above? Again, from the FAA books:
Landing
According to 14 CFR part 91, no pilot may land when the flight visibility is less than the visibility prescribed in the standard IAP being used. ATC provides the pilot with the current visibility reports appropriate to the runway in use. This may be in the form of prevailing visibility, runway visual value (RVV), or runway visual range (RVR). However, only the pilot can determine if the flight visibility meets the landing requirements indicated on the approach chart. If the flight visibility meets the minimum prescribed for the approach, then the approach may be continued to a landing. If the flight visibility is less than that prescribed for the approach, then the pilot must execute a missed approach regardless of the reported visibility.
I see NOTHING in the regs about using cameras for any of this! Or what we see from the cameras he has running during his flight!
So, as I said in the other comment, no one but Greg can make the visibility determination, and he has that his responsibility. If all the above guidelines are met, then this ILS was normal and successfully executed. To say anything to the contrary is not only making assumptions you cannot make, but you had to be literally sitting with him in that flight deck. Neither being the case with anyone viewing this video.
In the end, if he landed (and yes his experience is an important part here) then I’m 100% sure the approach was perfectly legal. Like Greg said, would he publish something for thousand to see that could cost him is certificates or face FAA actions? I seriously doubt that!
No comment about the reconfiguration after landing (slapping your hand again on that one)
Chet, ATP and a CFII along with a few other ratings! Oh and I was CAT II current and qualified. Now if you want to talk about LOW, look up those minimums :)
(Note, all typo’s and errors are mine)
>No comment about the reconfiguration after landing (slapping your hand again on that one)
Agree....that would get a pink slip on an ATP check ride as would phone dialing, etc..
I do appreciate your efforts on these videos BUT I would urge you follow the sterile cockpit rule.
Remember there are neophytes watching you as an example of how it should be done.
TBoone ATP, Eagle
Wall of text but entirely true. This also isn't ATP. There is no restrictions on phone dialing or sterile cockpit. Comparing an ATP to a PPL is 'plane' stupid :)
Greg (the pilot) has an ATP and is held to ATP standards.
Chet Meyerson I recall him saying he does not have an ATP. I believe he said he does not have a CPL either.
"Greg (the pilot) has an ATP and is held to ATP standards."
The sterile cockpit is for Part 121 and 135. It does not apply to Part 91 flights such as this.
Years ago coming from west coast to JFK into a major blow we encountered almost exact minimum condition combined with heavy presip and 40 mph winds on a 747 after 35 min holding pattern we had a navy pilot that landed that monster fast and hard we where on the right side gear crabbing the wing tip was only what looked like inches off the the tarmac , put it this way I was mid ship looking down the runway !!!! A passenger !!! Every one was gasping and praying but my man got us down safely , God bless the navy
You earned a like within the first 14 seconds for the killer timelapse. Love your videos!
Sure is fun flying with a pilot that is always about 2 hours ahead of the airplane.
Those few silent minutes between the 1000 callout and minimums were tense! Just curious, how much in fees would it have been to land at Midway?
Probably $300 if I didn't take fuel.
I chuckled in the beginning - that is ME to a TEE, hahaha! I'd be in and out of that seat 6x before I remembered everything ... on EVERY flight! At 5'4" & 160 I'd probably have a bit of an easier time getting between the seats, though. I could probably stand there without ducking ... :D
Man, that was some SOCKED-IN fog there! WOW - that was a first for me as well. Never have watched a video of IFR right to minimums before. Have to admit, I probably would've been a little nervous on that one. :) Nice job, as usual!
Love when the clouds are right below you at cruise - I get a better perspective of just how fast you're going. Love that! I could even see the difference in takeoff performance over your summer videos - came through and away from the clouds REAL fast! Must've been fun - I know that would never get old for me. Thanks for the virtual ride, as always! :)
Thank you!
I'm certainly that way getting ready to drive my car somewhere... esp. on a long trip!
When the Co Pilot See's the runway in his mind he's saying thank ya Jesus 😄
Hehehe, there's always somebody unhappy with what one does...makes you almost go "Joker" on them! Almost but we dont. Keep up the great job POD1
I like how you and ATC are speaking to each other in a clear understandable dialogue and not two auctioneers in a bid war LOL.
Alaskan Herc Pilot, King Airs too. 2,500 hrs. T-38IP in TX before that. Yep as others below have said, loved watching this flight in the weather. Lotsa days like that at PAED in and out of Cape Romanzof, Cape Newenham, Indian Mtn., Cape Lisburne, Sparrevohn, and others, Radar Stations - all, four of them "one-way" sites. Not to mention just getting home to Elmendorf. The FARs state that you must see the "landing environment" by minimums, which is clearly what was seen even on the video. Anyone stating otherwise, has no experience with IFR aviation (actual poor weather conditions). It was routine in AK. This gentleman, knows what he is doing. Evidenced by the fact that he's got a 12 yr old next to him. Plus, he gets to drive into a covered shelter waiting for him. I'd carry his bags any day. Which, if you are not a military pilot, you have no idea what I mean.
I like this comment!
In fact on really poor-vis days, with two qualified pilots, right-seater would fly the approach on instruments and stay on them. The other would be watching outside and ready to take the aircraft to land it, while the other stayed on the instruments in case the other lost sight again (below mins) - it would happen. We did this at Galena one day and at minimums, the left seater could just barely see the rabbits even though when I took a peak outside, I couldn't see them. He took the aircraft and landed it. We were very familiar with the field and knew what to expect to see at that end of the airfield (first...Yukon River bank, then runway overrun, lights, threshold. Awesome experience - flying in conditions that kept our skills razor sharp.
Impressed with your patience with a new pilot! Great ambassador for flying!!
I like how that was timed so that the ground appeared just as the radar altimeter was announcing minimums minimums! Co pilot should be more impressed....
Co pilot was like WTF 🤣eyes bucket wide then he saw the runway and was like thank ya Jesus 😄
To see the runway seconds before actually hitting the ground is mind blowing......🤦♂️🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
All right!!!!! Finally! I’ve been sitting here in my living room watching P1Driver videos on my TV(TH-cam.) But I just realized “my comments” were turned off! They’re on now! Yee Haw! What’s up Greg?
You’re a Bad Man!!!! Love your brand! The baddest flyin Man in the land Must be your brand!!!!! Haha.....ok so as I’m enjoying your flying plan I’m also enjoying the tunes so please turn’em back on! Thanks in advance! Also, I’d like some more of your flying history as well as some info on that BA Red Porsche(?) you drive! Correct me if I’m wrong on that. Anyway, why not do a video or two on that car? Check this out: P1D Air & Land versions? DFW Resident!
Great and very professional flying and landing. And you never disappoint by the useful knowledge that you shared with not only your passenger but your family on TH-cam. Once again as my grandfather once said... knowledge that is not shared is wasted knowledge. Thanks Greg!!!!!!
Man, THAT was some great IFR. I know I'm 2 years too late but great video!
Thank you for sharing this amazing journey with us. Could you please tell me the maximum height this jet could fly and you were flying at? I might have missed about it during the video. Thank you.