@@drobinson-uo7icEh they might as well bury it. Nobody gives a fuck about Roddy. He should never have won the belt in the first place. He's a charisma vacuum
I hope Kenny is able to fully heal and return to the ring. If there's someone that should beat The Elite, it's him. Yes you can have others like Ospreay or Swerve or another babyface step up, but Kenny would make it mean that much more.
Two wreslers put together for a match with no angle WWE - Dave : "Why did they do this? This was pointless." AEW - Dave : "Who cares? This was awesome."
@darksing1 no1 complains about the banger matches, they complain that those matches never have good short term or long term booking or feel like a actual fued
"This match didn't have a story... so what?" - Meltzer, 2024. If Tony is actually listening to Meltzer's opinions when it comes to booking AEW, he is going to continue bleeding viewers with irreversible damage.
@keni95851tired of the tribalism & uneducated individuals like you that just had to say something because you see a comment!!! Like bro go take your kids to school or go to work. Do anything your heart desires but do me a huge favor and leave me tf alone I don't know you nor do I care to know you or your opinion bout anything ✌️
Crowd was miserable/ quiet cause jets were just eliminated the night before. In canada if your team is eliminated your messed for a week or so..but it was a decent turn out
AEW has me interested with having 2 really good closing angles and week to week continuity. The problem they face is that it’s happening in the middle of the playoffs we’re people’s attention are elsewhere.
I think that the Claudio vs Brian Cage ties cause Cage is in Swerve's Mogul Embassy so it might tie later on with The Patriarchy. Also... there was a Tekken collaboration TShirt and Cage had ring gear inspired by one of the characters.
The only issue with throwing in Ospreay into the mix is he is already in a long term grudge, revenge and punishment storyline against Kenny, so putting him in would kill that long term story that's only delay due to Kenny's health.
If the crowd isn't responding to the matches is it really a good match.... these crowds are just sitting there watching and they are getting smaller and smaller. But hey unca dave and cousin Bryan like them.
I would like my hometown Kansas City on Monday night when they had nothing to cheer, for they were sitting on the thrones the whole time the people said it’s one of the worst crowds WWE ever had stopped trying to throw stones at another motherfucking Federation and look at the one that you’re actually caring for jackass
@@oumega6903 the entire art of wrestling is to get the crowd to engage. Thats their job. Its called entertainment. Also to sell tickets and well this show was down over 3 thousand tickets from previous visit. Thats a problem
@@jamiejones8521 Yes it is. Corpus Christi Texas is the prime example. The absolute notoriously worst crowds in the history of wrestling to the point they never deserve shows. They never react to anything good or bad. Some crowds are better than others but sometimes you wonder what exactly pay a ticket for if you are not gonna react. Claudio and Brian Cage was indeed a good match and the spots they did usually get over regardless if there is a story.
Crowd was quiet cause jets were just eliminated the night before. In canada if your hockey team is eliminated your messed for a week or so, decent turn out tho
@@mkultra5752I was at the show and the crowd was pretty lively. The show quality was shit but Winnipeg only gets AEW once a year so they made the most of it
I think the segments would work better inverted. Omega should be attacked before and one week later Tony would ask why he would reinstate Perry after that attack, the rest you know.
Dave will never understand that what ends up making a company successful is when you properly build up feuds to sell tickets. The Claudio match, but imagine how much more impactful it would be if it meant something - if there was something to look forward to coming out of it. "For some reason" isn't going to cut it.
Dave has to cut in and explain the nuances of the booking for every segment and then they get to the Claudio-Cage match and he's just "yeah, no story, who cares?" I genuinely think he's helping TK book this shit. It explains why he's so defensive over every single criticism including the dogshit ratings.
@@johnnymittle well they're talking about Dynamite so who gives a fuck about Collision? If you really wanna get into it, the only reason Collision managed to pop a decent number was because it came on after an NBA Playoff game. They started at 1.3 million and finished at 400k so it obviously wasn't very compelling programming. As far as the Claudio vs Cage match, we both know you're reaching about as far as arms can go when you're trying to put a story behind it that Dave Meltzer couldn't even get behind. Come on now. I think TK calls what you're doing right now "bad faith".
@@toniyakovlev4403 1st quarter hour did 1.35 million, last quarter hour aka the main event of Swerve vs Claudio did 440k. Lost 910k viewers over the span of the show. Then Rampage came on immediately after and went into the 200ks.
I watched both Dynamite and Rampage (I rarely ever watch Rampage) and I was surprised how good both episodes were. Storylines were moving forward, and the segments left me wanting to know more next week. The Kenny Omega segment was done beautifully, I am actually really invested in Willow vs Mercedes now especially after seeing the former's match with Sky Blue which was awesome. Of course, not everything was top notch, that was a step in the right direction for AEW. I doubt this will radically change the attendance/viewership numbers all of a sudden, but if they keep delivering shows like that consistently people eventually and naturally will start to tune in more.
@@Pennypackerr To each their own then, I felt it was one of the better Dynamite episodes in a long while, but I get that ultimately it's a matter of preference and taste.
Nothing says Meltzer like him looking way off to the right and down, pointing the mic into the side of his face, and trying to read his own notes from something that happened an hour ago and not being able to. He's a legend and all, but someone tell him he is producing video content lol.
When Kenny is healthy, we need him and Ibushi reuniting the Golden Lovers to take on The Elite. That would get me watching weekly again, which I don't currently.
I thought omegas promo was super strong and I actually enjoyed the angle. 3 seperate times I missed the toilet because I didn't sit still and kept giggling during the farting. I can see omega running through the elite one by one until the boss fight with okada.
@@juliuspryce8514 Way to identify yourself hater. You must have a terrible life. Good luck living with yourself. The reason why bad things happen to you and you have a horrible life is because you going around hating. You sure do keep track of AEW for someone that hates them. Tony has you like a puppet on a string. He is the puppeteer and you are his puppet.
This was one of the worst episodes of AEW Dynamite in recent memory, in front of a mostly muted crowd. Adam Copeland vs. Buddy Matthews was a plodding and dull disappointment. Samoa Joe squashing Isiah Kassidy was quick and fun, but shouldn't Samoa Joe be demanding a rematch against Swerve? Shouldn't he object to Christian getting a title shot at Double or Nothing before he even gets a rematch? Jericho vs Shibata was an embarrassing clown show of the dumbest chops you'll ever see in your life, which is saying something considering it's pro wrestling. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Brian Cage was good, but we've seen far better from both of them, and they are capable of working better matches together. Mariah May vs. Serena Deeb started off with a paradise lock, the absolute dumbest "move" in all of pro wrestling, and never quite recovered from there with a crowd who could not give a F. The Kenny Omega return angle and attack by The Elite was the best part of this show. AEW Dynamite is typically a very good pro wrestling show, but this sure as heck wasn't one of those episodes.
For those wondering crowd was miserable/quiet cause jets were eliminated the night before same arena. In canada if your hockey team is eliminated your messed for a week or so, decent turn out and a good show tho
"So what if there's no story?" asks Dave, as though the mostly empty arena wasn't dead all night and as if he won't be running damage control for the inevitable shit ratings. EDIT: 703K after wearing a neckbrace to the draft and calling WWE the Weinstein of wrestling lol. But hey, dream matches.
“There was no storyline for this match. So what?” Yes, let’s not have any storyline reason for a match taking up a lot of time on our main weekly wrestling show.
Two professional wrestlers having a professional wrestling match is the story. Can the Knicks only play the Lakers if they do 3 months of promos first?
@@ryanallan3742i think the answer lies somehwere in the middle. the stories need to be subtle or it cheapens everything. eg I loved the cody vs bloodline but i wish they hadnt constantly said the word 'story' in all the promos
The ELITE needs to control the show. You can't control the show until you have the world title. I'm not really a Page fan, but they need to put him in a suit, pull his hair back, and have him beat swerve in a few months with the ELITES help. The belt is the power over the company. Nobody cares about "iron clad contracts. "
Meltzer "there was no storyline for this, so what?" At least he spit it out without 56 er uh er uh er uhs. Is his nose literally growing? Him not caring about story lines was cute when he was state media for a darling startup but doesn't aew have more 5star ratings than all other promotions? Aren't there 30 aew guys with 5 star matches but Kurt angle has none?
@@simonhhlol this is dumb. Even if that person can’t… doesn’t mean they’re wrong or that they don’t exist. Unless you’re trying to make the argument that Kurt doesn’t deserve any… which would also tell me plenty
@coldsnap5742 don't know yet until quarter ratings are release. If the lead in gave AEW a 800-900,000 head start and they lost 250,000 viewers before quarter 2, the average is false and needs to be adjusted to reflect actual viewers.
Agreed with Dave FTR taking on this authority Elite need help and Ospreay is literally perfect to take Omegas place to face this authority maybe the heels win for a while and Ospreay faces them after he beats Strong
Actually I think Adam Copeland is even a better fit for this storyline than Will Ospreay at the moment. I think Copeland and Jack Perry is a better potential match to be building to within it once Copeland concludes the story with House of Black. Ospreay needs important things to do for sure and needs to always be in a main event storyline. IDK its gonna take a lot of brain power to figure it all out because The Elite taking over the company is positioned as their top story moving forward. But I like Adam Copeland as FTRs backup.
2017 Era is NEW SCHOOL AND FORMER VERSION / FOLLOW THEIR OWN STYLE / TOO DARK ERA (LOST THIER MINDS) AS SAVAGE / REACHING BREAKING POINT 2024 Era is OLD SCHOOL AND SHELL OF THEMSELVES / WCW STYLE / LOST MEMORY OF NEW SCHOOL / BASE OF THEIR CHILDHOOD MEMORIES AND INSPIRED BY THEM UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ANYMORE
LMAO Bryan explains that a match is just your banger for tonight in a positive way and Dave still goes on the defence. How the fuck can anyone not believe he's getting money from Tony Kahn at this point? I wish Bryan would move away from Dave's BS. Dave is just a blatant shill for AEW and Tony Kahn at this point. Nothing he says can be taken seriously.
Or maybe he's just totally fine to take a good match for the sake of it. A lot of us like AEW because of the matches, and could care less about to the criticisms.
@@Julian-xj6mh "Bad" is subjective, and most of you losers have an incredibly small palette for art/entertainment. Chicken tenders and french fries type of people lol. I love seeing random Puro, Lucha, and deathmatch wrestling every week, with no attempt of making them more digestible to undesirables like you.
Idk why, some reason when I see young bucks doing these attacks I feel im watching what would be like if kaientai from the 90's was being presented as the top heel group.
@keni95851 That's what wrestling is. Back in the day people would buy a ticket only knowing what the main event would be. The kayfabe reason for any "random match" is for the guys to make money. Guys would get paid more if they wrestled and 'won'. Vince changed that by booking his guys in promos and backstage segments and leaving the actual wrestling to the upcoming ppv.
Crowd was miserable/ quiet cause jets were just eliminated the night before. In canada if your hockey team is eliminated your messed for a week or so, decent turn out tho
Hilarious that Dave needs to look over at his notes and read them word for word while never looking at his actual audience for the "amazing angle" that he just witnessed last night...
Problem with AEW rn is even if u enjoy a segment Tony will probably say something stupid and make you feel embarrassed you watched the product. Like last week I liked the ending it was wacky fun. But then what happens.
I seen the clip of this earlier and all I could think of was how lame and amateurish it looked and felt. Kenny is horrible on the mic, he has no charisma at all. Then Okada comes out and he’s even worse. Jack Perry can’t even handle a dying man even after jumping him from behind and then the two goofs come out and I couldn’t even finish the clip. The Bucks are absolutely horrible. Total channel changers every time they are on the screen. At least TK is getting his moneys worth out of Sasha and Ospreay, real ratings grabbers they are. I guess catching a plane to Canada was too much of a grind for Will.
yo imagine waking up and thinking of the snarkiest, (im so woke these boys cant touch me line) "i guess canada was tooooooo much of a grind for Will" GOTEM......jajajajjajajaja RIP TK RIP AEW How bad does it hurt. tell me.
For gods sake can we PLEASE stop feuding the elite among themselves? How many times do we need either Bucks, Omega or Hangman turn on the others only for them to reunite months later AGAIN? This is worse than the Big show.
Maybe I just don't understand diverticulitis but the Omega story makes no sense to me.... He's in a wrestling company as an active performer. Doctors need to okay him all the time. If this is a legitimate business...wouldn't they be catching this stuff FAR in advance? How does it get to the point where its an emergency? This 100% goes for WWE as well given the Brock Lesnar story. Again...I don't know about this illness. Maybe its something that legit springs up with zero symptoms and becomes an emergency situation within days for some people. If its not...this is a profession where doctors work with talent regularly. Your system SHOULD be catching this far earlier than most other professions. Edit: For clarity I do NOT believe this angle was dangerous. Its obvious Kenny would have been cleared for this and the doctors knew about his situation going in. My issue is with the handling of the first discovery of it.
I have just decided that from now on I am going to ignore Tony Khan on social media. Its infuriating sometimes because I know he is capable of putting on good wrestling shows more often than not. I mean I rarely see a truly bad show. I am not going to let something ridiculous and tiresome he continously does or says dictate whether or not I like the shows and the people on the shows. I wish he would get out of his own way because I know many will not follow my suggestion. He is a strange case because all of his commentary and antics are not really ever on the shows.
What’s great about 2 guys running off 4 guys who also had a chair? 2 guys with no weapon scared off 4 who had a weapon. If FTR is that badass that they can scare Bucks, Jack and Okada, then they should never lose clean ever. AEW doesn’t pay attention to the small details. Here an idea Jack: start swinging the chair again.
@@jonjones9917 what does that have to do with this? This idea where “this is okay because it happened this other time” doesn’t make it good. It just makes you a 🤡.
@@jonjones9917 yeah, if only I could think more like you and just assume “if he’s criticizing this thing, that MUST mean he’s a fan of this other thing”, that because I criticized this, that MUST mean I advocate for WWE. If you criticize Trump, you must love Biden. If you criticize Biden, you must love Trump. How about being a consistent individual who criticizes stupidity equally? Ever thought of that?
All I can think of during the elite segment is Okada had the personality of a guy going to the electric chair. Can he have a blanker stare? Dude looks like he’s trying to remember his grocery list
It would be equal to your loser self going with a live mic in a ring in Japan trying to speak in Japanese in front of a live audience on live TV if you can comprehend that.
No osperay or Mercedes and the ratings go up ? Due to kenny...prime example of a draw lol since breaking the cry babies hearts by tellling everyone him and punk are actually fine and they respect eachother and acknowledging his tribal chief ☝🏾 kenny babyface run for the ages
This episode of dynamite was a real chore to watch, the commentary is just awful, shibata has to be one of the worst wrestlers ever(he just doesn't sell) his supposed battle of chops no selling jericho went through the break. 1 of the worst matches I have ever seen 🤬
Aew is good for the wrestling business because its good for the boys more places to work. but the story lines are so bad and just cringe-worthy and the whole jungle boy Kenny Omega thing was terrible..
Meltzer pushes back against the people that brainlessly hate on AEW. If all you can do is call someone a clown you are not contributing to the conversation.
Didn't Cody in the WWE say in one of his recent promos that he was surprised at the amount of support from people 12 and under when he won his title? Think about it.
Tony Khan can't book. Full stop. He is a spoiled, dumb, rich guys kid. They are trying to do stories but all of their stories are bad because they need a real booker
I feel like listening to Dave trying to make points is evidence against his points
He’s a clown 🤡
Yea he might be stupid
you meant "as"
rainbow
Dork👉@@IAEMThatIAEM
I feel like reading your points is evidence against your points.
Daves idea of throwing Ospreay into this angle for absolutely no reason shows how dumb he is.
Yeah, bury the storyline with Roddy Strong and his title.
Wouldn't the tnt championship make more sense? Granted face vs face but u can get something out of it.
He's right that it would be better than putting Ospreay in the Undisputed Kingdom vortex
@@drobinson-uo7ic and also buries the story between Ospreay and Kenny.
@@drobinson-uo7icEh they might as well bury it. Nobody gives a fuck about Roddy. He should never have won the belt in the first place. He's a charisma vacuum
'There was no story and... SO WHAT'
Good insight into Dave's booking philosophy.
Ol man has lost it.
Dave Meltzer: “Their wasn’t a lot of heat but very well wrestled”.
What a moron.
“So what” is that they fucking should have a storyline.
“No storyline build to this so what”
Well ok then
Dave giving brief examples of what a fucking mark sounds like
I hope Kenny is able to fully heal and return to the ring. If there's someone that should beat The Elite, it's him. Yes you can have others like Ospreay or Swerve or another babyface step up, but Kenny would make it mean that much more.
Two wreslers put together for a match with no angle
WWE - Dave : "Why did they do this? This was pointless."
AEW - Dave : "Who cares? This was awesome."
those points aren’t mutually exclusive
More proof that Dave is a hypocrite
When did Dave ever complain about a good WWE match with no angle? Are you talking out of school?
@quesoblanco444 what's with the wrestling observer question police? U guys never dispute just ask a counter question. Make a point Susan
@@juliuspryce8514 My point Harriet, is that the original poster needs to support their claim. Why argue against a false point.
"You know people out there complain that AEW puts on too many bangers.."
Fucking what, Bryan?
Cause they do lol. No story just book two good wrestlers for no heat
Yes, that is one of AEW traits. You listen to wrestling podcast, but are unaware of this somehow?
@darksing1 no1 complains about the banger matches, they complain that those matches never have good short term or long term booking or feel like a actual fued
@@juliuspryce8514 Why does every match have to be part of a feud?
@@juliuspryce8514 Every match does not need an angle or a feud. You can also just let your workers work.
Dave: uhm,uhm, uhm, wait a minute, it’s somewhere here in my uhm, uhm, you know, notes.
He needs to retire, can’t even speak anymore um ya know
"This match didn't have a story... so what?" - Meltzer, 2024. If Tony is actually listening to Meltzer's opinions when it comes to booking AEW, he is going to continue bleeding viewers with irreversible damage.
Ospreay wasn’t there, too much of a grind going to Canada I guess.
Gtfo with that b.s. like do you wake up & say damn let's see what I can hate on AEW today because there's no sun outside 😂😂
@@MBolden12lol as you’re coping and seething for a company that does the exact same thing but even worse.
@@MBolden12 triggered mark is triggered
@keni95851tired of the tribalism & uneducated individuals like you that just had to say something because you see a comment!!! Like bro go take your kids to school or go to work. Do anything your heart desires but do me a huge favor and leave me tf alone I don't know you nor do I care to know you or your opinion bout anything ✌️
@@MBolden12 This mark: I'm tired of tribalism
Also this mark: Cope and seethe, all you do is hate on AEW
lmfao!!!🤣🤣🤣
Uncle Dave's just upset they changed the name of "The Meltzer Driver" to "The Kahn Job."
Crowd was miserable. Omega and Okada staring off got me to mark the fuck out.
Unmute the tv, next time.
It's amazing, after Dynasty these crowds really have soured on the product and this was Canada!
Maybe because they were bored by what they were watching, just like I was
Crowd was miserable/ quiet cause jets were just eliminated the night before. In canada if your team is eliminated your messed for a week or so..but it was a decent turn out
Kenny Omega is a real champ
AEW has me interested with having 2 really good closing angles and week to week continuity. The problem they face is that it’s happening in the middle of the playoffs we’re people’s attention are elsewhere.
That a lame ass excuses
The last 2 closing segments have been goofy and laughable, glad u enjoyed this cringe
Hall and Nash debuted in WCW during the conference 96 playoffs
AEW fans don't watch real sports.
@@juliuspryce8514Your life is goofy and cringe. Get out of the basement for a bit.
Banger appears to be in heavy rotation and overuse.
Like "Cinema" which is an utterly meaningless term when it comes to professional wrestling.
There's nothing aew can do to make you happy. Just f*ck off.
The insurance company doesn't want to cover Kenny getting his intestines caved in on some dumbass deathmatch 🤣
I think that the Claudio vs Brian Cage ties cause Cage is in Swerve's Mogul Embassy so it might tie later on with The Patriarchy. Also... there was a Tekken collaboration TShirt and Cage had ring gear inspired by one of the characters.
Cleaner Kenny is his best form
The only issue with throwing in Ospreay into the mix is he is already in a long term grudge, revenge and punishment storyline against Kenny, so putting him in would kill that long term story that's only delay due to Kenny's health.
If the crowd isn't responding to the matches is it really a good match.... these crowds are just sitting there watching and they are getting smaller and smaller. But hey unca dave and cousin Bryan like them.
a crowd that doesn't respond to stuff that is good or engaging is simply a bad crowd
I would like my hometown Kansas City on Monday night when they had nothing to cheer, for they were sitting on the thrones the whole time the people said it’s one of the worst crowds WWE ever had stopped trying to throw stones at another motherfucking Federation and look at the one that you’re actually caring for jackass
@@oumega6903 when it works for the live crowd it gets 5 stars. When it doesn’t work for the live crowd it is the crowds fault? 😂
@@oumega6903 the entire art of wrestling is to get the crowd to engage. Thats their job. Its called entertainment. Also to sell tickets and well this show was down over 3 thousand tickets from previous visit. Thats a problem
@@jamiejones8521 Yes it is. Corpus Christi Texas is the prime example. The absolute notoriously worst crowds in the history of wrestling to the point they never deserve shows. They never react to anything good or bad. Some crowds are better than others but sometimes you wonder what exactly pay a ticket for if you are not gonna react. Claudio and Brian Cage was indeed a good match and the spots they did usually get over regardless if there is a story.
Winnipeg was quiet
Crowd was quiet cause jets were just eliminated the night before. In canada if your hockey team is eliminated your messed for a week or so, decent turn out tho
They're Winnipeggers. They were probably sore from the night before
They're Winnipeggers. They were probably sore from the night before because they sure as hell took a clapping by Colorado
@@mkultra5752I was at the show and the crowd was pretty lively. The show quality was shit but Winnipeg only gets AEW once a year so they made the most of it
This is the best version of the elite yet.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Dummy, YEAH!
Yes the version that consistently lowers the ratings unless they’re on first.
@@UncomfortableShoes who gives a shit? As long as I enjoy it...
@@matthewkinne7662 good, I’m glad you do. If you want to keep enjoying it, they need to succeed as a show.
I think the segments would work better inverted. Omega should be attacked before and one week later Tony would ask why he would reinstate Perry after that attack, the rest you know.
Great idea. But then Tony isn’t at the Draft with a neck brace.
Great show last night.
Strongly disagree.
Dave will never understand that what ends up making a company successful is when you properly build up feuds to sell tickets. The Claudio match, but imagine how much more impactful it would be if it meant something - if there was something to look forward to coming out of it. "For some reason" isn't going to cut it.
Dave has to cut in and explain the nuances of the booking for every segment and then they get to the Claudio-Cage match and he's just "yeah, no story, who cares?" I genuinely think he's helping TK book this shit. It explains why he's so defensive over every single criticism including the dogshit ratings.
They had the third highest rating in Collision history.
Cage is in a stable with Swerve who beat Claudio.
@@johnnymittle well they're talking about Dynamite so who gives a fuck about Collision? If you really wanna get into it, the only reason Collision managed to pop a decent number was because it came on after an NBA Playoff game. They started at 1.3 million and finished at 400k so it obviously wasn't very compelling programming. As far as the Claudio vs Cage match, we both know you're reaching about as far as arms can go when you're trying to put a story behind it that Dave Meltzer couldn't even get behind. Come on now. I think TK calls what you're doing right now "bad faith".
@@csmartin85holy hell 1.3m to 400k? There's no way...
@@toniyakovlev4403 1st quarter hour did 1.35 million, last quarter hour aka the main event of Swerve vs Claudio did 440k. Lost 910k viewers over the span of the show. Then Rampage came on immediately after and went into the 200ks.
Do you care? Why? What is your problem with matches that have no "storyline" leading up to them?
I can definitely relate to some of that Diverticulitis/abdominal pain stuff. Was done well.
I guess more guys could've came for the safe but it was perfect
I watched both Dynamite and Rampage (I rarely ever watch Rampage) and I was surprised how good both episodes were. Storylines were moving forward, and the segments left me wanting to know more next week. The Kenny Omega segment was done beautifully, I am actually really invested in Willow vs Mercedes now especially after seeing the former's match with Sky Blue which was awesome. Of course, not everything was top notch, that was a step in the right direction for AEW. I doubt this will radically change the attendance/viewership numbers all of a sudden, but if they keep delivering shows like that consistently people eventually and naturally will start to tune in more.
I thought the complete opposite as you. The show is a giant cringe fest with nothing compelling happening.
@@Pennypackerr To each their own then, I felt it was one of the better Dynamite episodes in a long while, but I get that ultimately it's a matter of preference and taste.
Nothing says Meltzer like him looking way off to the right and down, pointing the mic into the side of his face, and trying to read his own notes from something that happened an hour ago and not being able to. He's a legend and all, but someone tell him he is producing video content lol.
At least the Claudio/Cage match explained why Cage might be too hurt to run out for Swerve.
How can Meltzer and Alvarez think this Elite angle is awesome?!
When Kenny is healthy, we need him and Ibushi reuniting the Golden Lovers to take on The Elite. That would get me watching weekly again, which I don't currently.
I thought omegas promo was super strong and I actually enjoyed the angle. 3 seperate times I missed the toilet because I didn't sit still and kept giggling during the farting. I can see omega running through the elite one by one until the boss fight with okada.
Yeah struth
@@InaudibleYT yeah!
Ospreay making the-save would have made zero sense
Every time Dave is on, he says one thing that makes me want to ask him, "You know it's scripted right?"
Another great episode of AEW Dynamite. Keep the positive vibes coming to drown out the haters. Let the haters drown in their own miserable lives.
Or those haters will continue to not watch ur treehouse club as we get closer to 70 weeks of dynamite under a million
@@juliuspryce8514 Way to identify yourself hater. You must have a terrible life. Good luck living with yourself. The reason why bad things happen to you and you have a horrible life is because you going around hating. You sure do keep track of AEW for someone that hates them. Tony has you like a puppet on a string. He is the puppeteer and you are his puppet.
How Dave is able to talk with a mouthful of Osperay is amazing
Bet you read that somewhere and thought it was a great line eh?
@resident19guy actually it was one of my better lines. Thanks for the compliment!
@@wildx5634 I was just yanking your chain. It's a good line, so congrats on that!
I'm more excited to see what happens next.
This was one of the worst episodes of AEW Dynamite in recent memory, in front of a mostly muted crowd.
Adam Copeland vs. Buddy Matthews was a plodding and dull disappointment.
Samoa Joe squashing Isiah Kassidy was quick and fun, but shouldn't Samoa Joe be demanding a rematch against Swerve? Shouldn't he object to Christian getting a title shot at Double or Nothing before he even gets a rematch?
Jericho vs Shibata was an embarrassing clown show of the dumbest chops you'll ever see in your life, which is saying something considering it's pro wrestling.
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Brian Cage was good, but we've seen far better from both of them, and they are capable of working better matches together.
Mariah May vs. Serena Deeb started off with a paradise lock, the absolute dumbest "move" in all of pro wrestling, and never quite recovered from there with a crowd who could not give a F.
The Kenny Omega return angle and attack by The Elite was the best part of this show.
AEW Dynamite is typically a very good pro wrestling show, but this sure as heck wasn't one of those episodes.
For those wondering crowd was miserable/quiet cause jets were eliminated the night before same arena. In canada if your hockey team is eliminated your messed for a week or so, decent turn out and a good show tho
"So what if there's no story?" asks Dave, as though the mostly empty arena wasn't dead all night and as if he won't be running damage control for the inevitable shit ratings. EDIT: 703K after wearing a neckbrace to the draft and calling WWE the Weinstein of wrestling lol. But hey, dream matches.
I know you don't care, that Winnipeg crowd just watched their playoff dreams get shattered in 4 straight games.
“There was no storyline for this match. So what?”
Yes, let’s not have any storyline reason for a match taking up a lot of time on our main weekly wrestling show.
"There was no story... so what?" - AEW in a nutshell... well, there is sometimes a story - it just usually makes no sense.
Two professional wrestlers having a professional wrestling match is the story.
Can the Knicks only play the Lakers if they do 3 months of promos first?
Haha.. REALLY read what you just wrote and think about it for a while.. wrestling isn’t real sports its a tv show that needs stories
@@simonhh Lol they're playing for playoff positioning and an eventual championship, not just for "bruv im the best bruv"
@@ryanallan3742i think the answer lies somehwere in the middle. the stories need to be subtle or it cheapens everything. eg I loved the cody vs bloodline but i wish they hadnt constantly said the word 'story' in all the promos
Name three current stories in WWE off the top of your head. I can do it, but I can also name numerous ones in both companies.
The ELITE needs to control the show. You can't control the show until you have the world title. I'm not really a Page fan, but they need to put him in a suit, pull his hair back, and have him beat swerve in a few months with the ELITES help. The belt is the power over the company. Nobody cares about "iron clad contracts. "
It wasn’t a 3 piece suit.
Crowd was dead, 650k incoming
@@DJVOOZy8x hes a dude who watched the exact same show as me wondering why tf the crowd was sitting on their hands lol
@@DJVOOZy8x triggered mark is triggered
@@eds_take Winnipeg just got swept 0-4 out of the playoffs the night before dynamite. Them boys is sad.
700K actually. Still AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!
@@maraviyoso8473 the big bang lead in doesn't count, so 650 is about right
Guys, aew has lost 35 percent of its audience.
Well cry me a river
The only guy benefitting from this storyline is some WWE guy named Drew
Meltzer "there was no storyline for this, so what?" At least he spit it out without 56 er uh er uh er uhs. Is his nose literally growing? Him not caring about story lines was cute when he was state media for a darling startup but doesn't aew have more 5star ratings than all other promotions? Aren't there 30 aew guys with 5 star matches but Kurt angle has none?
I bet you can't name an Angle match that warrants 5 stars.
@@simonhhlol this is dumb. Even if that person can’t… doesn’t mean they’re wrong or that they don’t exist.
Unless you’re trying to make the argument that Kurt doesn’t deserve any… which would also tell me plenty
@@simonhh Angle/Benoit Rumble 03, Angle/Samoa Joe Lockdown 08, Angle/HBK 1 & 2, Angle/Brock WM19, Angle/Brock Ironman, Angle/Taker First ever SD match. but yeah "ThErE iSnT oNe"
What? Maybe before you post next time, break your pill in half.
Dave always has to defend AEW lmao
You haven't been paying attention if you haven't seen all his criticism for AEW the last few months.
Dave Meltzer derangement syndrome.
@@ToadsAndFrogs12 lol imagine taking reaction to a terrible tv show this seriously.
@@keni95851 Dave Meltzer Derangement Syndrome.
@@ToadsAndFrogs12 Lol id love to hear you bring that up to someone outside the wrestling bubble just to watch them laugh at you
Seen by 703,000 on average. 🤣
Great numbers…with the excuses they will make. Whatever they will be…you can be CERTAIN that they are en route!!
@@leeedwards9068 facts! I'm already reading "ratings are up from last week". I bet the entire increase is associated with the lead in. 😂
@coldsnap5742 😂😂😂
@coldsnap5742 don't know yet until quarter ratings are release. If the lead in gave AEW a 800-900,000 head start and they lost 250,000 viewers before quarter 2, the average is false and needs to be adjusted to reflect actual viewers.
Look at the bright side, if the ratings were higher your weekend would've been miserable. This gives you something to be happy😂
"Kenny Omega comes out...giant reaction" lmao
Agreed with Dave FTR taking on this authority Elite need help and Ospreay is literally perfect to take Omegas place to face this authority maybe the heels win for a while and Ospreay faces them after he beats Strong
Actually I think Adam Copeland is even a better fit for this storyline than Will Ospreay at the moment. I think Copeland and Jack Perry is a better potential match to be building to within it once Copeland concludes the story with House of Black. Ospreay needs important things to do for sure and needs to always be in a main event storyline. IDK its gonna take a lot of brain power to figure it all out because The Elite taking over the company is positioned as their top story moving forward. But I like Adam Copeland as FTRs backup.
FTR and the bucks again? great.
This video gets 2 stars!!!!!!!
5 if it was in the Tokyo Dome
2017 Era is NEW SCHOOL AND FORMER VERSION / FOLLOW THEIR OWN STYLE / TOO DARK ERA (LOST THIER MINDS) AS SAVAGE / REACHING BREAKING POINT
2024 Era is OLD SCHOOL AND SHELL OF THEMSELVES / WCW STYLE / LOST MEMORY OF NEW SCHOOL / BASE OF THEIR CHILDHOOD MEMORIES AND INSPIRED BY THEM
UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ANYMORE
The so what is.... everyone turns off. Also they buried cage
How do you “bury” a jobber?
LMAO Bryan explains that a match is just your banger for tonight in a positive way and Dave still goes on the defence. How the fuck can anyone not believe he's getting money from Tony Kahn at this point? I wish Bryan would move away from Dave's BS. Dave is just a blatant shill for AEW and Tony Kahn at this point. Nothing he says can be taken seriously.
Or maybe he's just totally fine to take a good match for the sake of it. A lot of us like AEW because of the matches, and could care less about to the criticisms.
@@mattdavis5603" we like bad shit" "NDAE DUB NDAE DUB "
@@Julian-xj6mh "Bad" is subjective, and most of you losers have an incredibly small palette for art/entertainment. Chicken tenders and french fries type of people lol.
I love seeing random Puro, Lucha, and deathmatch wrestling every week, with no attempt of making them more digestible to undesirables like you.
You can tell AEW is on a hot run of shows because the haters and trolls are coming out of the woodwork 😂
Lol imagine taking wrestling as seriously as you
Bro see the ratings decline and state it’s on a hot streak. Most delusional take ever.
We found 1 of their 200 fans!
Before even looking at the responses you got, I knew at least one would be "Ratings!".
A hot run of inducing douche chills. A Young Buck specialty. 🤣
Rampage is much better after Dynamite. I actually watch it now lol
Idk why, some reason when I see young bucks doing these attacks I feel im watching what would be like if kaientai from the 90's was being presented as the top heel group.
nobody saw that coming
I liked this segment. It was a bit uncomfortable though.
It'll be under 750k. Without a doubt.
Probably under 700k.
Ha.
"There was no reason for this match"
"so what?"
Poor Dave will never understand
We get it. Guys in the fed can only have a match with somebody if they do 2-3 weeks worth of backstage segments first.
He understands. Because if it was WWE he’d make the appropriate criticism
@@simonhhlol it’s better than a cold match that no one cares about and/or won’t even know is going to be on the card
@@simonhh we get it, you love when tony hits "random match" on his booking software.
@keni95851 That's what wrestling is. Back in the day people would buy a ticket only knowing what the main event would be.
The kayfabe reason for any "random match" is for the guys to make money. Guys would get paid more if they wrestled and 'won'.
Vince changed that by booking his guys in promos and backstage segments and leaving the actual wrestling to the upcoming ppv.
Meltzer will never be honest about Omega and The Bucks. They are god awful and he just refuses to admit it.
I think you’re just lying to yourself
I think after 5 yrs you should learn to let go.
Who didnt see that coming. Dumb. Still only 700,000 watching.
Was it just me or was Winnipeg as a crowd dead ?
Crowd was miserable/ quiet cause jets were just eliminated the night before. In canada if your hockey team is eliminated your messed for a week or so, decent turn out tho
Hilarious that Dave needs to look over at his notes and read them word for word while never looking at his actual audience for the "amazing angle" that he just witnessed last night...
Nobody cares.
Dave meltzer is awful at speaking.
Still better than you'll ever be
@@auramigraine really???????????????
Dave Meltzer...SO WHAT? Should be on a T-shirt 👕 im sure you aew fans would eat them up
Problem with AEW rn is even if u enjoy a segment Tony will probably say something stupid and make you feel embarrassed you watched the product. Like last week I liked the ending it was wacky fun. But then what happens.
What what happened? Oh nothing you’re just saying a bunch of bullshit and trying to be vague and edgy. Get the fuck out of here.
What a strange mentality you have.
When one attacks their boss, it needs to be wacky fun! The zanier the better! 🤣
I seen the clip of this earlier and all I could think of was how lame and amateurish it looked and felt. Kenny is horrible on the mic, he has no charisma at all. Then Okada comes out and he’s even worse. Jack Perry can’t even handle a dying man even after jumping him from behind and then the two goofs come out and I couldn’t even finish the clip. The Bucks are absolutely horrible. Total channel changers every time they are on the screen. At least TK is getting his moneys worth out of Sasha and Ospreay, real ratings grabbers they are. I guess catching a plane to Canada was too much of a grind for Will.
😂 you wrote a whole paragraph at 8 am. Youre a fan, bro.
yo imagine waking up and thinking of the snarkiest, (im so woke these boys cant touch me line) "i guess canada was tooooooo much of a grind for Will"
GOTEM......jajajajjajajaja RIP TK RIP AEW
How bad does it hurt. tell me.
You sound hurt. Maybe stay away from tv shows that hurt you this badly.
Dave blows tony you can tell
Dave blows tony in the tokyo dome and gives it 8 stars
For gods sake can we PLEASE stop feuding the elite among themselves?
How many times do we need either Bucks, Omega or Hangman turn on the others only for them to reunite months later AGAIN?
This is worse than the Big show.
An amazing segment
Other time ,no storyline baddd
Maybe I just don't understand diverticulitis but the Omega story makes no sense to me....
He's in a wrestling company as an active performer. Doctors need to okay him all the time. If this is a legitimate business...wouldn't they be catching this stuff FAR in advance? How does it get to the point where its an emergency? This 100% goes for WWE as well given the Brock Lesnar story.
Again...I don't know about this illness. Maybe its something that legit springs up with zero symptoms and becomes an emergency situation within days for some people. If its not...this is a profession where doctors work with talent regularly. Your system SHOULD be catching this far earlier than most other professions.
Edit: For clarity I do NOT believe this angle was dangerous. Its obvious Kenny would have been cleared for this and the doctors knew about his situation going in. My issue is with the handling of the first discovery of it.
Go do some research on Diverticulitis. The symptoms mirror problems so can be hard to diagnose
I knew someone who died from (complications caused by) diverticulitis. It's fucking awful.
I have just decided that from now on I am going to ignore Tony Khan on social media. Its infuriating sometimes because I know he is capable of putting on good wrestling shows more often than not. I mean I rarely see a truly bad show. I am not going to let something ridiculous and tiresome he continously does or says dictate whether or not I like the shows and the people on the shows. I wish he would get out of his own way because I know many will not follow my suggestion. He is a strange case because all of his commentary and antics are not really ever on the shows.
Go outside
Meltzer will always find a way to put over Ospreay.
No mercedes or osprey on the show cause there sitting at home laughing at the ( money MARK ) cashing his daddy's fat checks!!!!!!
What’s great about 2 guys running off 4 guys who also had a chair? 2 guys with no weapon scared off 4 who had a weapon. If FTR is that badass that they can scare Bucks, Jack and Okada, then they should never lose clean ever. AEW doesn’t pay attention to the small details. Here an idea Jack: start swinging the chair again.
calm down. I've watched the entire bloodline run away from Jey Uso.
@@jonjones9917 what does that have to do with this? This idea where “this is okay because it happened this other time” doesn’t make it good. It just makes you a 🤡.
@@TalkingToTheBirds massive IQ take.
@@jonjones9917 yeah, if only I could think more like you and just assume “if he’s criticizing this thing, that MUST mean he’s a fan of this other thing”, that because I criticized this, that MUST mean I advocate for WWE. If you criticize Trump, you must love Biden. If you criticize Biden, you must love Trump. How about being a consistent individual who criticizes stupidity equally? Ever thought of that?
Marty had hints on his instagram page about who to sign with? Does Kenny get a Villain?
Another sex pest backstage at AEW is all they need. 🤣
after tony khan's comments about wwe and harvey weinstein, then they would look like the biggest fucking hypocrites in the world
"I don't know Willow Fattengale. I don't want to know Willow Fattengale."- Vince Russo 2024
All of those backstage segments were death and these guy just glance over them as if they’re fine
Im a fan of Harvey Weinstein wrestlling! Go Harv Go!!!!
All I can think of during the elite segment is Okada had the personality of a guy going to the electric chair. Can he have a blanker stare? Dude looks like he’s trying to remember his grocery list
It would be equal to your loser self going with a live mic in a ring in Japan trying to speak in Japanese in front of a live audience on live TV if you can comprehend that.
No osperay or Mercedes and the ratings go up ? Due to kenny...prime example of a draw lol since breaking the cry babies hearts by tellling everyone him and punk are actually fine and they respect eachother and acknowledging his tribal chief ☝🏾 kenny babyface run for the ages
I have diverticulitis, and yeah, it's 100% bullshit.
Dave is so cringe.
This episode of dynamite was a real chore to watch, the commentary is just awful, shibata has to be one of the worst wrestlers ever(he just doesn't sell) his supposed battle of chops no selling jericho went through the break.
1 of the worst matches I have ever seen 🤬
Aew is good for the wrestling business because its good for the boys more places to work. but the story lines are so bad and just cringe-worthy and the whole jungle boy Kenny Omega thing was terrible..
Ospreay didn’t fancy the grind this week? Weak guy.
Meltzer pushes back against the people that brainlessly hate on AEW. If all you can do is call someone a clown you are not contributing to the conversation.
But Hurr Durr tHe BuCkS sUcK
Didn't Cody in the WWE say in one of his recent promos that he was surprised at the amount of support from people 12 and under when he won his title? Think about it.
If AEW is serious about turning things around, their best shows are going to have small audiences and they'll have to build a genuine buzz.
Aew should do more stories they have so much talent that are underutilized
Tony Khan can't book. Full stop. He is a spoiled, dumb, rich guys kid. They are trying to do stories but all of their stories are bad because they need a real booker
Nwo lite it's pathetic
Why mention TheBloodline they had nothing to do with this segment.
@@blackjack23able lol "bUt wWe" pathetic.
Keep crying
Don't be stupid.
Are you that deranged with blind hatred or are you trolling?