24 Hour Percolation Method for Herbal Alcohol Extracts
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- Percolation is a simple, quick and potent method for producing herbal alcohol extracts (tinctures).
Used on this video:
250 ml Percolator (Eisco Labs Dropping Funnel is used in the video)
40 grams ground dried herb (I used gingko biloba)
200 mL 40% or 50% alcohol by volume (abv)
2 ounce stainless steel scoop
1 organic cotton ball
1 organic cotton round pad
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This is an excellent video on percolation! Thank you, Joan!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, the best presentation, even from my teacher!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing!!! Congrats!!
Please let me know the model of that percolator...brand and exact name. Thanks
Thanks doctor 😘
Good job 👍
i dont understand how this is any better than the old fashion way of tincturing ?
it looks cool but how is it better than just putting the alcohol in the mason jar and letting it sit for weeks ?
if its not sitting for weeks then how is the tincture ready ?
if you have any knowledge or books that might help me ,i would love to see and read about them .
It is faster and ready in 24 hours and said to be more potent.
You can do the Mason jar method too. It's just another way. The alchohol acts as a solvent to wash the oils off the plant. You probably already know this by now. Pay attention to ratios as well. Good luck!😃
First, the herbs are broken down into almost a powder, so the cell walls in the plant material have been broken down. You can extract more metabolites that way and allegedly make the extract up to 30% more potent. Second, if your kid has a fever and a cough, do you want to wait 6-8 weeks or overnight?
@@slewfoot6608 The solvent isn't "washing the oils off the plant." Ergastic substances in plants and secondary metabolites like alkaloids, volatile and non-volatile oils, terpenes, diterpenes, and sesquiterpenes are not ON the plant, but are inside. The percolation method works so well because the plant material is broken down and the cell walls inside the material are open. You don't have to wait for the plant matter to degrade to extract the metabolites. You also have medicine within hours instead of weeks.
thanks
Thank you for the video! May I know what alcohol do you use? Many suggests vodka. Thank you :)
It depends upon the herb you are extracting secondary metabolites from. Some use 80 proof, some use 190 proof.
Hello Thank You for very useful information.
Can I use this method with fresh herbs?
Hello, Thank you. This method requires dried herbs, not fresh.
I truly admire you. However, I have a question: I like essential oil's e.g., lavender. Citrus like orange, tea tree , oregano, & other flowers. Their flash point temperatures for herb & flower are very low like 90°F - to - 130°F.
For example if I were soak these citrus skins or lavender plant(s) first separately inside a plant milk bag immersed in drinking liquor is this feasible?
For Example -- a drinking liquor of about 40 or 60 proof. Raw material -- Not exposed soaking already filtered in a plant milk bag sitting in the liquor in the plant milk bag? Is that feasible??
Could I then transfer it to a temperature controlled water distiller boiling temperature very low. Would this work? Also, it is awesome using a mug warmer, To finish alcohol evaporation - oil processing very nice. I just want to avoid self-injury.
I prefer distilling food grade Drinking alcohols because after distilling I could still drink it. Will my idea work?
We haven't tried this.
Percolations for tinctures should be done with no less than 100 gr of dried herbs.
It all depends on the size of the funnel. 100 grams of herb is used when using a 1.5 liter wine bottle or other funnel (percolator). This funnel (percolator) is only 250 ml. Herbalists use a smaller funnel to make smaller amounts when they don’t want a large batch of tincture.
Thank you so much, amazing video
Just a question
Can we make a perfume this method?
You can try it, but it may not be the scent you want.
Awesome video shall I know the best method for extracting Ginseng herb? can we use the same method? please advise and thanking in advance
Yes you can
It depends on the ginseng. Fresh has to ne crushed and water percentaged. Dry is scrushed well and added to the beeker.
Hi, great video. I was just wondering if there are any (bleaching) chemicals in the cotton ball that will end up in the tincture?
No, it is organic cotton balls/pad.
Hi, thanks for a very informative video. Is it ok to use an adjustable plastic funnel?, what do you do with the left over material, do you strain it or just throw it away?
NEVER use plastic. The leftover material is called marc and you can throw it away or compost it. Some ingredients can be used again, such as coffee grinds, to add to soap as an exfoliant.
hi, thank you for your video and explanation. I have a question. You used a ratio of 1 to 5, but if you pour, let's say, 500 ml of solvent, you end up with 350 ml of the final product. so with that amount the ratio is still considered 1 to 5? or can we add 150 ml of destiled water to make up for that gap? I've done this by adding the 150ml of destiled water to the plant material to help the rest of the solvent to go trhough is this ok or what would you recomend?
Hello, the ratio is for the starting material. Plus it's using a lower proof alcohol, 100 proof. If you want to add distilled water then you would need to use a higher proof alcohol, 190 proof.
I believe I have the same question as @ricardogarcia7683 - I think its more of a question of what the POTENCY is of the finished product. If you don't end up yielding 100% of the menstrum volume (the 5 parts used). This has ben the case with me. I will use lets say 240ml of solvant but may only get 100ml of final ticture. So what would the strength be calculated based off of? The original ratio or the herb weight to final tincture volume ratio?
I believe I have the same question as @ricardogarcia7683 - I think its more of a question of what the POTENCY is of the finished product. If you don't end up yielding 100% of the menstrum volume (the 5 parts used). This has ben the case with me. I will use lets say 240ml of solvant but may only get 100ml of final ticture. So what would the strength be calculated based off of? The original ratio or the herb weight to final tincture volume ratio?@@JoanMoraisCosmeticsSchool
@@keenawareness This is a method herbalists use and they don't really know the final potency. This would require lab testing.
As far as I understand, it would make sense that if you had 100G of herb and you used 500ml solvent you have a 1:5 ratio, then I’d reduce it down to 100ml extract.
Then say a dose is of the dry herb is 5G, you could take 5ml as a dose and it should translate across.
If you reduce it to 50ml and you started with 100G herb, then you have a double strength 2:1 ratio extract and would need only half a dose.
Is this a more economical method than the other emaceration method? Seems like it uses more product/herbs.
These are the methods used for a long time by herbalists.
Can you use more than one herb at a time? I personally don't see why not? Thanks you
Yes, you can!
If you do use more than one herb at a time, you must do your research and make sure that there are no contraindications to it. You need to know if any of them will react to one another. You don't want to end up making a poison for your cough syrup. Water extracts some metabolites. Alcohol extracts others. My son is a PhD chemist, and he would NOT do this. I know. He yelled at me for an hour on the phone.
hi! if I would use this in making a mango peel extract, do you know the ratio of the extract I can add in making a hand soap? thanks!
This is an alcohol extract and generally is not used in a hand soap. You can try using dried mango peel and use the same ratios.
Using hydrosols to milled and melted soap base is a good way to add mango peel. Just make sure the mango peel is completely dry, within 8-12%, and steam distill. To a normal batch of milled soap you would add 1-2 ounces of mango hydrosol. Dr. Lee Kwok, on TH-cam has a great channel, but he doesn't make soap, that I know of. He can teach you anything about hydrosols. He can show you how to extract the essential oils too, but remember when you add them in cold process soap, the oils just get saponified like the other fats. Unless you are milling your soap, it would be an incredible waste of time and money to add essential oils, until the milling is done.
Is it a tincture or an extract? I thought extracts are 1:1 and a tincture is more the 1:5
Tinctures are alcohol extracts.
Joan could you advise me where I can purchase the equipment pls
It is listed under the description of the video.
What is it about this process that increases extraction speed by such a huge margin?
It is concentrated.
Hi, thank you for the great video, after the ethanol is filtered and the final liquid remains, what percentage of the final liquid is alcohol vs the extract/herb? I want to try and make my own Jagermeister of sorts :-) so I want to try and make an alcohol drink using the method ie a liqueur... what would I do, just drink your final filtered liquid as is? or then add more ethanal to the final filtered liquid? thanks so much for your insight, I'm a complete novice...
For a liquor it would need to be more concentrated. We haven't made a liquor with it. It is used in the liquor industry to make different types of flavorings.
Your final product should be 40% alcohol by volume. This method isn't the greatest, because she is allowing the alcohol and/or water content to be evaporated off, which throws off that ratio.
May I know the model amd the brand of that glass percolator? I would love to buy it, same model. Please let me know
Eisco Labs Dropping Funnel, 250ml
@@JoanMoraisCosmeticsSchool amazing!!!! Thanks friends!!!
Isn't it a problem that you let the alcohol evportate off from the beaker?
No, because the herb is saturated by alcohol and it is covered.
YES, it is a very big problem. Not only is the alcohol evaporating, but so is the water in the alcohol. She needs to go a few steps further in setting up her equipment. This is kind of sloppy and will not result in the best product.
@@decksranred4183what steps would you add
@@decksranred4183 That’s I thought. The alcohol contained in the erlenmeyer underneath is exposed.
Homemade percolator are more efficient because the bottle that’s serve as a cone is directly put on top of the container that is receiving the tincture.
How much alcohol is lost to evaporation between the dropping funnel and the flask?
Very little.
Please include recipe for coffee 👏 👏
Don't extract coffee this way. Steam distill yourself a hydrosol and use coconut oil and wax to make a coconut cream lotion that your skin will love you for.
Mocha and Espresso machines works by percolation @@decksranred4183
Will this method work with propylene glycol or propanediol diluted to 60-75%?
It might but we haven't tried it.
How would you process an herbal extract for water/glycerin?
That is called a glycerite. It is the same as a maceration. Combine herb and glycerin. Wait 6-8 weeks.
how long do you leave before letting it drip?
About 24 hours.
Where can I get the set up? Percolator and stand with funnel etc?
Hello, the information to access our store is here: joanmorais.com/percolation-herbal-alcohol-extract/
I do not find anywhere on your website that gives access to your equipment store. When I follow the link you commented above, it asks for my email address in exchange for free online training, but the only training I found on the website is paid options. Am I missing something?
@@stephaniefbriggs Hello, The free training series is the place that shares our store. When you sign up for the free training you get access to the store.
@@JoanMoraisCosmeticsSchool I did that and I still didn't see any information on "your store" unless you are referring that you desire payment for classes? Is that what you mean? Thank you.
@@JoanMoraisCosmeticsSchool Not there.
Hi very interesting thank you for sharing the information I've ordered one to try myself. Would you say these are stronger than steam distilled essential oils and would it be worth peculating the remaining botanical after the steam distillation to extract any remaining non water soluble compounds? Thank you in advance :)
This makes an alcohol extract, a tincture. Essential oils are different than alcohol extracts. They perform differently. I would think the remaining botanical would be spent from the distillation of the essential oil and no good to use to make a tincture.
@@JoanMoraisCosmeticsSchool Thank you for the reply. I'm new to this and find it very interesting. Would you say Tinctures are better used as a medicine and oils for aroma?
@@paulrobertson9439 Tinctures have been used medicinally for a very long time. They are also used in skincare formulations. Essential oils are different. They are highly concentrated constituents from distillation of plants with therapeutic properties.
Steam distilling creates a hydrosol, of which there are essential oils; however, water extracts some metabolites and alcohol extracts OTHER metabolites. You need to know what constituents you want to extract from the plant material. Are you after vitamins? Are you after alkaloids, terpenes? You can't judge how "strong" your finished product is, unless you know exactly what you are extracting, and whether or not you are going to use water, alcohol, honey, glycerin, etc. Some metabolites cannot be extracted with water. Some herbs MUST be extracted with water; some have to have a hot application and others have a cold application. Percolation with alcohol allegedly makes a tincture that is 30% stronger than a maceration. Without testing the product, there is no way to be certain.
@@decksranred4183 Thank you very much for the information it's very interesting.
How do you make glycerin extract in 48 hours?
Glycerin extracts won't work with this method. It's only for alcohol.
You can't. A glycerite takes as long as a maceration. If you want it in 48 hours, make an oxymel with honey using a double boiler to slowly heat the herb/honey mixture for 3 hours and strain through a press.
Hello, just a question. If you let it still for 24h then what makes it different with maceration? Thank you
Maceration takes 6-8 weeks. Percolation takes a couple days max.
Can you do kratom?
We haven't tried it.
Mixing kratom and alchohol can be dangerous. Just make tea
Pat down just a little bit