I know that you'll eventually pull for a character on this account when you can E6 S5, but honestly I wish you'd just permanently not warp and show the experience of what would be like playing the entire game without gacha. It's fascinating to see, and honestly the fact you can't use literally any OP units instantly makes you like the best HSR player to exist, I think out of every content creator you're probably the best one as far as understanding the mechanics and playing around them!
Ik what u mean vut of he wants to show the actual no pulling experience , even if he pulls for e6 s5 ,its rather easy since its only one caracter and one lightcone so he could just not use them
As someone who's also using 4 star sustains but with good damage dealers, I can only imagine how hard that was to achieve. I admire your patience. Congratulations!
I actually do the exact same tech with March, but only because I play her with Clara. But that was honestly a gigabrain move from you because i never thought about doing that with a regular team.
This was interesting to watch! Even tho I have a bunch of broken supports (fu xuan huo huo bronya) I still struggle a lot with MoC 9 and 10, great job on solo sustaining with fire MC and march :)
Solo sustain march is one of the most counterintuitive units in the game, both in trying to build her but also in using her. But mastering her feels like opening a third eye, and it's genuinely the most rewarding gameplay ive ever felt in my entire honkai star rail career. There is honestly a reason march is the most leaned on solo sustain in 4 star only accounts, even over nat and lynx. It's because when the odds are stacked against you, she's the one that's most likely to pull you through. Generally she can solo sustain as well as bailu in my experience and sometimes even better than gepard depending on the fight. You definitely don't want to shield every teammate every turn, but instead use the taunt and her preservation class and shield march herself, to use her as a lightning rod for all attacks. This generates a ton of energy thanks to the hits and counters, and that gets you an ult super fast, which cuts the amount of enemy actions almost by half. This sort of loop is how the majority of march fights go, with her shielding teammates only in situations where its necessary. A lot of people are gonna overlook her because we have more sustain options these days, and if you get some good 5 star sustains, you'll never need to lean on her specifically. But she's still an absolute unit in MoC and swarm disaster, and is just about a must build for anyone lacking a 5 star sustain. I would put her in the A tier on a tier list, right next to Bailu.
Her and geppy CARRY my remembrance and preservation runs, love them. I just wish I had yanqing so remembrance can be even better (I dint pull for JL cus I don’t like her kit much)
I have gepard and other sustains but I love her for Herta so Herta can get the dmg boost against frozen enemies and bc freeze prolongs DOTs and gives enemies 30% action forward like I love that march is just a fundamentally good unit and mechanically fun to play
I would place her in B tier. Overall more niche sustain that can shine well in some comps/ moc rotations. Maybe A tier if cleansing debuffs becomes very important later on. A lot of big brain plays here sheesh 🤯
I used these as my solo sustains as well, not because I had to, but because I like march 7th and Fire MC just dunks the monkey. I have every sustain besides HuoHuo and still choose to use March. I love the freeze playstyle hopefully she will still be usable when we get floor 11 and 12.
Notification gang, let's gooo 🎉❤ Edit: Hey, the March strat is really good! And I also think people underestimate March. She's been a life savior for me on Swarm Disaster thanks to your Remembrance strat too 😅
Im surprised that this dude doesn't have a discord. Love the content btw. I really wanna try it myself and see how difficult and fun it will be but yeah I hope you could have a discord so people can discuss and help others with the same type of challenge you do
I appreciate the kind words, good luck on your future journey! If you need any swarm disaster tips, I got a few guides on that as well (the most recent one is the best)
March's issue is that she wants to use a lot of skill points, which most players want to allocate for their DPS so they prefer Natasha even in the early stages. But I personally find my March very reliable and versatileand she made me feel very safe haha. I do have more friendly/powerful units now that I have Fu Xuan and Huohuo, but I still use March from time to time and the fact that she lands so many freezes adds so much value. I have an E1 Gepard that I actually kinda hate using, my March is just better at letting my team survive than he is because, if the enemies focus on just one character - which they often do - then sorry but March is way better than Gepard since she can renew her shield whenever. The ape is a good example of an enemy where i don't want to bring Gepard but March is great. Is she "S tier" in terms of meta? Absolutely not. Can she carry you with her shield while also beign a freezebot? Absolutely. Otherwise, I'll say I love seeing how you manage to clear everything not only with just basic characters but they don't even have eidolons, it's very impressive. It shows that relics and strategy/skill really are the most important.
The problem with March is that she requires a lot of skill and attention to use as a sole sustain, and if you aren't giving her that she is bad. I am one of those who dropped her early, both because Natasha, but also because I felt Fire-MC was just better than March in the similar role. And Ice was a more common element too. If we go back to basics, Abundance is easy mode because you don't need to micromanage damage taken since you just heal it away. Since she isn't a healer, the traditional opposite for Preservation is shielding to make sure you never take damage. But March was always awkward because she only shields one and after the early game splash attacks became normal. Yes, she can attract aggro, but in any sort of long-ish fight (let alone particularly bad rng) you start having casualties. This was still tolerable when there were no other options, but imo the reason she got phased out asap (compared to most other 4 stars that were in demand) is because she not only had a much better 5-star version in Gepard available from day one which people slowly got (though not me lol), but the free side grade Fire-MC had a much more reliable taunt acting as preservation with similar skill point use AND could act as a fine breaker-dps where shielding was not necessary (March is not a dps at all). And the taunt working much more consistently is a major positive in long combat when you can't afford many stray bullets. Seeing his video, I can see that March if played skillfully can work, but even he has some way of healing a little (as seen at MOC second half 4:21). Probably a light cone or something. But the point is that while she can be used, it isn't that controversial that she is the "worst" sustain in higher level content (although I don't know if that is still true in a no-eidolon comparison, which the dude is based to play lol). Sure, with enough investment and understanding, she (like all 4 stars) can clear the hardest content, but it just takes so much more effort to achieve. And to be fair, she is designed like that. Just like Dan Heng, she will get a way superior 5 star version someday, although I still fail to comprehend why they changed his literal element. For March, who is WAY more linked to her element than Dan Heng she better remain Ice imo.
@@rowanmales3430 I don't disagree that March is skill intensive because most of the times she indeed is. But there are ways to mitigate that with correct building, using MoV/Landau's Choice, E4 and/or having enough DPS to end battles quickly. March is very SP negative if you're trying to shield everyone, but she can be SP neutral and even positive if she is only shielding herself/the side. The longer a battle is, the more likely your teammates will have taken hits and thus the more SP negative she'll be. She can be tricky to use, but comfortable to play with the right setup. She does get healing at E6. It's not a lot, but it's not insignificant either and it has saved me from bad situations a couple of times. Gepard is a lot more comfortable to run than March, but I'd argue that March's cleanse can be more meaningful depending on the content you're facing. I don't think either are good for every situation, they both have their shortcomings. In the end March's shortcomings are still bigger/more noticeable because she's still a 4* but there are definitely times when she shines.
@@purplecosmonaut The part your entire analysis is missing is that she was there for us at the early game. I have no doubt that there are "ways" to make her OK. But it requires specific stuff combined, which by your own admission is a Lightcone that is 5-Star Standard Banner or a specific 4-Star Gacha one (and ideally at high superimposition), two late stage eidolons (4 and 6), and still then having enough invested dps to avoid long battles (which wasn't widespread at the beginning and MOC is designed to be long). My point, is that even disregarding the skill point and skill factor, you cannot really say players should judge her based on her optimal build, when the playerbase had her as a main sustain when access to that build was very rng based. I was didn't have a 5-star damage dealer for ages as I lost my Seele 50-50 to Welt (almost no enemies had imaginary weakness that early) and lost my first standard banner 50-50 to a Lightcone. And Jing Yuan, without mega investment, is hardly a great dps in non-erudition content. I was a DanHeng, QQ, and Sushang dps. I happen to have pulled March 7th e6 as my second fastest e6, but my first fastest was Natasha e6 lol. Anyway, my point is that she required way too much rng luck to be good for the average casual at the beginning of the game. Also, she has a cleanse, which is good, but let's not pretend it's flawless. It forces you to not only give a shield to that character (when you might need it elsewhere) but also changes the aggro target. Her direct competition being Natasha, who also had a single target skill cleanse (with healing rather than shielding), which didn't lock her out of healing a different teamaker that turn since she could also team-wide heal on ult. So the cleanse is good, but only an important consideration for those who had to chose between March and Gepard specifically. I still sadly do not have Gepard like most of the casual playerbase.
I started my Zero Gacha account at the start of 1.4 so i missed out on Sushang and S5 Before the tutorial mission starts I'm hoping Honkai copies Genshin with an event to celebrate Chinese New year and give a free 4 stsr character from the Xianzhou as i really want a copy of Guinafen to synergise with Asta Fire MC and Hook for my burn team If they release a similar system to what i saw in CODM where you can obtain previously released items such as the event weapons through a currency system where you get points from participating in current events. Keep up the great content mate
As someone who's also f2p and has also not spent a single jade (not for much longer since i'll be pulling Ruan Mei ๐·°(⋟﹏⋞)°·๐) you're a really big inspiration. Your contents inspire me to try underrated characters and give me hope for clearing MoC 10 (currently not able to clear all MoC but i'll get there!). Rooting for you on your journey \\\(۶•̀ᴗ•́)۶//／／
Comparatively she's still better than nat and fire trailblazer, and about equal to bailu and lynx overall, sometimes even being better than gepard depending on the fight. Like this current moc 10 I've tried sustaining with solo March and solo gepard, and solo March clears so much quicker and easier 100 percent of the time. So no, she is not d tier, not even close.
@@zannax351 again comparatively shes still worse than lynx bailu and nat for sustaining, yes she deals dmg so it clears things faster and especially this MoC that buffs follow up attacks shes gonna overperform a little
As usual i like your content Also i finally failed the no pull challenge and proceed to pull for huohuo. Manage to get her all the way to E3 and a piece of her light cone Ever since the day i started the no pull challenge, i have an aim for a character that gives heal while giving attack buff and we now have a Huohuo exist I'm pretty close to E4 if i can get a soft pity around 10-20 pulls before her banner gone. After her banner gone I'll be waiting for her rerun and get that crispy E6 attack buff while getting her lightcone to superimpose 5
Ty! I appreciate the support!! And Huohuo is great, she's a SUPER underrated unit right now. Most people will realized how OP she is and will want to pull her on the re-run (esp since she has offensive boost in her kit and they are releasing harder content, people will def regret it.)
@@zmm1337 e6 on her makes her a harmony character with heals 50% atk bonus from skill/e6, 48% atk bonus(max level talent) from ultimate, and s1 light cone also gives 2.4% atk bonus so it's a total of 100.4% atk bonus from huohuo herself to 1 character it's way stronger if you have a well build character that has no crit issues and she keeps healing in many way, also there's the energy regen and 2 times ressurection around so i believe she's the best abundance character so far for me
I slept on building up a lot of starter characters like march, shushang and qq since i got geppy as my free 50pull and yangqing very early but ill make it my goal to actually work on these characters for the future. Also relics. Probably sitting on some gems that aren't set pieces.
People who say March is D tier try to shield every one in the party on every turn with def rope, boots and body relics, and have no EHR whatsoever on her, then get upset when she doesn't work. Yeah, ofc she's gonna feel like a D tier like that, what would you expect
I'm about 130 hours into the game, at TL 56 and am loving March 7th. she's the only character I've never taken off my team, but I have her built exactly like you described. Should I really not be building her that way?
exactly this people build her so poorly and just end up "oh I regret building march..." like shes the best sim uni char since shes so flexible imo for her utility
@@H4LOchannel If you use all def main stats, she's not gonna have any speed or the energy recharge for her ultimate. She *needs* her ultimate. Just as important as her tanky shield is her ability to freeze and her ultimate has 75% base chance to freeze. You need EHR body to ensure she'll land the freeze, speed boots to get more turns and more shields, and ERR to ensure her ultimate will be back up as much as possible. She has a plethora of options for LCs so I'm not gonna go into that but both Day One and Landau's Choice are probably her BiS depending on the content. And Moment of Victory as well ofc tho that's harder to acquire. All def main stats relics gives you the chonkiest of the shields, but it won't do you any good if the rest of the team is dying because March is not fast enough to shield herself/priority teammate or to freeze the enemies. EDIT: It's not needed but having Pela with March is really beneficial as well since Pela gives +10% EHR to every teammate.
@@Influocial She's fantastic for so many kinds of content and people really underestimate her value. Ofc she's not optimal for *every* situation and she has her shortcomings as well, but that's true for every single character in the game. I'll say, if anything, March's playstyle is possibly one of my favorites precisely because she's so risky and it feels really rewarding whenever you manage to solo sustain with her.
March is def B at C6, she is comparable to fire mc at C6. But at C0 she’s prob C as losing even a little hp is a way bigger deal (which is why you try your hardest to get your burst to stun the enemy).
I'd say lower C or even D at E0 due to the energy loss she would get from freezing enemies for consistent ult uptime. Never tried her E0 though, I'm not really sure
@@anandasatria7734 ok so I have tried her E0, and she’s definitely high C. If we’re comparing her to a Bailu, the best way I can describe it is like Himeko vs Blade ig idk
I really wanna try out the whole no warp thing but I feel like this is such a late time to do it, already missing out on a lot of free 4 stars and missing tutorial LC.
Destruction trailblazer is just as competent as its preservation counterpart. It's just that there are better alternatives so most don't bother. But others being better =/= destruction trailblazer being bad.
just started my account 3 days ago, speedrunning for my 1st limited, but I got gephard. i wondering what if i only play the starting char, then you're video came up. woahaha, its decided.
Haven't watched your full series, but question for you: Do you have friends that you use for support characters for some of the harder daily/weekly content? Cause sometimes even the relic domains and especially the bosses can be quite difficult I imagine at least in the early stages of developing your characters
I have my alt account (main account that I have almost all chrs on for testing) but it's mainly to use to feed gold into it. For Relic domains and harder content like weekly boss, I just bring 2 sustain units and auto (somtimes even 3) xd
March has been been one of my only carry sustain till this very day other than Natasha (those are the only two i have built) and March is literally a big G with how much she clutches
I will do updated progress videos probably this weekend! It's definitely a big blow since they increased the bug by 100k hp per life (200k hp total) and took away 4 cycles... so disappointed in hoyoverse
Love to see you managed to clear moc 10 with only f2p units. About your march being in D tier thing, March is probably the worst preservation unit in the game but thats still ok because preservation as a whole have a higher floor than the other path. I’d rate March at B tier which is what I consider the base tier of any preservation unit atm.
Built him hybrid! 2pc physical + 2pc break, atk rope, spd bots, (with priority on substats over set bonus) However Sushang allowed me to not use physical MC which has been nice!
Unfortunately, warpless is going to get a lot harder from this point on. The turns to clear have decreased by three, the variety of enemies is broadening, and the higher end is about to get more painful once they add the next two levels. From what I've heard, Lynx is going to be our next 'Warpless' handout, which is super nice, but unless they actually give us some power, the damage of the E0 Four-Star characters just isn't going to be enough. Still been a fun challenge for me, even with the squeeze. 70 Golden Tickets and 81k Jade. Staying strong for that future E6 unit.
Wow!!! So many Jades, glad to see a fellow zero warper. It's definitely gona be tough and maybe even impossible for moc 11/12 but I'm still definitely looking forward to it. Would love to hear about your progress in the future content as well 👍
Id place her in C. Other sustains are just created much better than her. She is fine if invested and practiced, but she definitely sits among the lowest if ranked in some order.
Saying march is D tier is way to harsh, im not saying she’s the best Preservation character but she deserves at least a B her shield whilst being single target is very strong and cleanses and she freezes often with her ult if you have effect res built into your March. That’s at least a B.
Ooo great question! I'm not quite sure yet but Im looking at maybe someone like March 7th 5* version! (but won't be pulling until maybe a year from now when I have enough to E6S5 someone)
Hey! I will most likely post the discord this weekend once my mod finishes setting it up. Sorry for the lag! I will post it alongside the video this friday/sat most likely
I was shocked to see Fire MC with only a 4 star head piece. One question I have is, if you aren't pulling characters then wouldn't you be able to put all your Trailblaze power into fully building the few characters you have? As someone who is mostly free to play, I find 4 stars really easy to build with their lower material costs.
ya exactly. since I don't have many chars to build, all power goes to relics pretty much. I have like 3x the relics and really good ones too compared to my main
Quantum 4pc is the only one that I really like on any DPS (as long as it has good substats ofc since substats > 4pc set bonus). Other than that, there's no 4pc set bonus worth farming for if you have good substats relics and need to farm other stuff
Honestly is really surprising. I can't even beat MoC 7 with my actual account, with Jingliu, Bronya, Seele, Quingque E6, Tingyun, and so on. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong tbh, Is true my relics are terrible because of my insane bad luck in this game, but I should be able to beat the endgame of this game with what I have. I don't really understand tbh. Congratulations anyway. Maybe someday I can beat MoC too. Or maybe not.
her offensive stats are definitely too low to make a real strong dent. However, if your team can survive everything with March, there's no harm in building more damage! (I can definitely not survive so I will build her strictly tank hehe)
Cleared 9, haven't tried 10 yet, will definitely be the hardest one yet (only cleared 9 with exactly 20 cycles left when usually would take like like 22 cycles remain... 10 might be impossible, stay tune!)
Ok, I'm in the same situation where I haven't spent a single jade, but I can't come anywhere close to getting 3 stars on MOC 10. I can't survive, let alone do enough damage to do it in enough cycles. Hell, you clear the first half like 3 cycles fastee than I can. And I don't wanna atttibute it to just artifact luck. Like seriously, I'm missing something here, which sucks because it might just be a massive skill issue.
Hey, always great to see a fellow no jade user! A lot of it is definitely the relics (I prioritize substats over 4pc set which is very important). Also fire MC as break really helps as well for enemies that are weak to fire
@zmm1337 Dude, it's so Joever for us in the new Abyss. We have 4 less cycles now to 3 star. I'm even struggling to 3 star in the floors leading up to floor 10. Good luck to you though. Would be awesome to see you rise up to the challenge!
Guy shows you can sustain with March 7th, and fire mc Viewers: mid, D tier These people just parrot what other content creators say, and don't know how to actually play the game ☝️🤓
Everyone is s tier its just that some characters perform better than others like march 7th with geppie who shields the whole team instead of 1 but does that mean march 7th is necessarily bad? No if you know how to use her shes good
I don't think you understand the definition of the English word "tier". The point is that March is just worse than other options. With the right relics (investing a lot of stamina and IRL time) every single character on the roster will be usable. You do understand that everyone can't be the best (and someone has to be the worst), right?
@@exu7325But honestly i dont care about those "tier list" or whatever that is. As long as we can clear the contents, why should we care? This game is not pvp oriented right? If people care too much about meta and tier list, whenever we couldnt get characters that being "highest tier", we would feel depressed like " oh no, i can't beat swarm without DHIL"... Well, seems like they didnt build their QQ yet, or herta. Even some "meta slaves" people quit the game because they lost 50/50. Like what would you do if you didnt lose 50/50? Screenshot the damage and send it to hoyolab or something?
Its a nice Video, and I really enjoy it. But can you pleasee..... Showing us a complete run of your F2P team? Its really confuse me with your back and forward editing in the video 😥 I know you want to explain about how you can play it. But please, it just really confusing to watch the scene back and forward. And I absolutely love and appreciate it if you can show us the whole complete run without cut. Thanks
Hey! Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it and yeah for future, I will include purely the full gameplay after the commentary since I know a some people like to just watch gameplay
@@zmm1337 Thank you too for replying. What I mean is, I really learning something new from your vid (like putting March7th in middle, that really blow my mind 🤯) . But sometime, I also learning from a complete run video, like how people make decision in the middle of battle (When to ult, Which enemies to target, etc.). Keep up the good work man 👍
Hey! I'm a day 1 player and I believe that relics are way more powerful than pulling chars even for this game. My strategy is to prioritize the substats on relics, good substats is better than 4pc set bonus if you have at least 5 more rolls overall!
March D-tier allegations are crazy she's more than proved herself with people who have reading comprehension. My hot take is that she is at worst comparable to Gepard due to how strong the Freeze build for her is and all of Gepard's issues.
Yeah unfortunately it's a very niche concept since most players don't play tank and no one has made an updated guide for March 7th yet. Guess I might xD
The difference is with Fu xuan you can autobattle MOC 10, with March you have to invest several runs to get one where the Rng didn't f you over halfway through.
Any! Both are great. Gepard is great for auto play. March is great for cheesing early game content like Swarm Disaster and cheaper to build since she's a 4 star
Bruh I have been building not annoying Paimon wrong the entire time Me not beating this with only starter characters is just a massive skill issue in my part I am sad
I know that you'll eventually pull for a character on this account when you can E6 S5, but honestly I wish you'd just permanently not warp and show the experience of what would be like playing the entire game without gacha. It's fascinating to see, and honestly the fact you can't use literally any OP units instantly makes you like the best HSR player to exist, I think out of every content creator you're probably the best one as far as understanding the mechanics and playing around them!
Thank you for the kinds words! I will definitely won't be pulling anytime soon prob like 2 years from now to get enough jades for E6S5 on this acc 😅
@@zmm1337e6 s5 gepard
@zmm1337 if you can record those 2 years and put it in a video then I will be there to like and share 😆
Ik what u mean vut of he wants to show the actual no pulling experience , even if he pulls for e6 s5 ,its rather easy since its only one caracter and one lightcone so he could just not use them
@@afonsoreis1363 I'd like to dub this commentor a next-level-dumbass
As someone who's also using 4 star sustains but with good damage dealers, I can only imagine how hard that was to achieve. I admire your patience. Congratulations!
Ty I appreciate the kind words!
I actually do the exact same tech with March, but only because I play her with Clara.
But that was honestly a gigabrain move from you because i never thought about doing that with a regular team.
Yess! I knew Clara main would get it! I mentioned it in the video 5:16 "Clara mains will know what Im talking about" (Clara mains are gigachad)
This was interesting to watch! Even tho I have a bunch of broken supports (fu xuan huo huo bronya) I still struggle a lot with MoC 9 and 10, great job on solo sustaining with fire MC and march :)
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huo huo is broken??
@@selocha4367this aged badly
@@theenderboy7856 ngl i quit hsr long time ago so if some chars become op in some time im not surprised
Solo sustain march is one of the most counterintuitive units in the game, both in trying to build her but also in using her. But mastering her feels like opening a third eye, and it's genuinely the most rewarding gameplay ive ever felt in my entire honkai star rail career.
There is honestly a reason march is the most leaned on solo sustain in 4 star only accounts, even over nat and lynx. It's because when the odds are stacked against you, she's the one that's most likely to pull you through. Generally she can solo sustain as well as bailu in my experience and sometimes even better than gepard depending on the fight.
You definitely don't want to shield every teammate every turn, but instead use the taunt and her preservation class and shield march herself, to use her as a lightning rod for all attacks. This generates a ton of energy thanks to the hits and counters, and that gets you an ult super fast, which cuts the amount of enemy actions almost by half. This sort of loop is how the majority of march fights go, with her shielding teammates only in situations where its necessary.
A lot of people are gonna overlook her because we have more sustain options these days, and if you get some good 5 star sustains, you'll never need to lean on her specifically. But she's still an absolute unit in MoC and swarm disaster, and is just about a must build for anyone lacking a 5 star sustain. I would put her in the A tier on a tier list, right next to Bailu.
Her and geppy CARRY my remembrance and preservation runs, love them. I just wish I had yanqing so remembrance can be even better (I dint pull for JL cus I don’t like her kit much)
I have gepard and other sustains but I love her for Herta so Herta can get the dmg boost against frozen enemies and bc freeze prolongs DOTs and gives enemies 30% action forward like I love that march is just a fundamentally good unit and mechanically fun to play
@@minty_macaron Herta is a much better remembrance path abuser anyway, aoe is crucial
Also she becomes much more fun with Topaz 🐖
This is really helpful! I don’t exactly play optimally but this might help me to clear some stuff I have issues with. Thanks for the March 7 tips!
Good video and good clear... I still use March 7th as solo sustain ❤❤❤ actually she's worth it but underrated
Tyyy OG!
I would place her in B tier. Overall more niche sustain that can shine well in some comps/ moc rotations. Maybe A tier if cleansing debuffs becomes very important later on. A lot of big brain plays here sheesh 🤯
Ty for the kind words! And ya that's definitely a fair take! She's great for most situations in my experience except vs. freeze resist enemies kekw
@@zmm1337also rn ice is such a good element since so much content has ice weak enemies
Its always so nice to see the progress of your f2p acc! 😊
Ty, I appreciate your support!
your march agro tip is actually very useful thank you!
glad it helped!
Wow. That's a very clever way of using March. Thanks for your vid.
Glad it helped! Thanks for the kind words
I used these as my solo sustains as well, not because I had to, but because I like march 7th and Fire MC just dunks the monkey. I have every sustain besides HuoHuo and still choose to use March. I love the freeze playstyle hopefully she will still be usable when we get floor 11 and 12.
Damn every sustain but still use March!? Gigachadd
Notification gang, let's gooo 🎉❤
Edit: Hey, the March strat is really good! And I also think people underestimate March. She's been a life savior for me on Swarm Disaster thanks to your Remembrance strat too 😅
I agree I always was hesitant to build march since she was free but shes the best unit for simulated universe
@@Influocialno she's not
Fascinating! Keep it running!
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Im surprised that this dude doesn't have a discord. Love the content btw. I really wanna try it myself and see how difficult and fun it will be but yeah I hope you could have a discord so people can discuss and help others with the same type of challenge you do
I just started playing this game, and I knew already who is the MC, I subbed so I will mostlikely see how your story ends. Well played.
I appreciate the kind words, good luck on your future journey! If you need any swarm disaster tips, I got a few guides on that as well (the most recent one is the best)
Best player in this game. No contest. I always get annoyed when I get called out for building Herta because of you.
Amazing strategy and game concept. You know your craft!
Ty for the kind words!
6:01 bruh! This one is Big Brain tips!
Wow I also want to be like that but it's very difficult moc just using standard characters good work
Ty!
March's issue is that she wants to use a lot of skill points, which most players want to allocate for their DPS so they prefer Natasha even in the early stages. But I personally find my March very reliable and versatileand she made me feel very safe haha. I do have more friendly/powerful units now that I have Fu Xuan and Huohuo, but I still use March from time to time and the fact that she lands so many freezes adds so much value. I have an E1 Gepard that I actually kinda hate using, my March is just better at letting my team survive than he is because, if the enemies focus on just one character - which they often do - then sorry but March is way better than Gepard since she can renew her shield whenever. The ape is a good example of an enemy where i don't want to bring Gepard but March is great. Is she "S tier" in terms of meta? Absolutely not. Can she carry you with her shield while also beign a freezebot? Absolutely.
Otherwise, I'll say I love seeing how you manage to clear everything not only with just basic characters but they don't even have eidolons, it's very impressive. It shows that relics and strategy/skill really are the most important.
The problem with March is that she requires a lot of skill and attention to use as a sole sustain, and if you aren't giving her that she is bad. I am one of those who dropped her early, both because Natasha, but also because I felt Fire-MC was just better than March in the similar role. And Ice was a more common element too.
If we go back to basics, Abundance is easy mode because you don't need to micromanage damage taken since you just heal it away. Since she isn't a healer, the traditional opposite for Preservation is shielding to make sure you never take damage. But March was always awkward because she only shields one and after the early game splash attacks became normal. Yes, she can attract aggro, but in any sort of long-ish fight (let alone particularly bad rng) you start having casualties. This was still tolerable when there were no other options, but imo the reason she got phased out asap (compared to most other 4 stars that were in demand) is because she not only had a much better 5-star version in Gepard available from day one which people slowly got (though not me lol), but the free side grade Fire-MC had a much more reliable taunt acting as preservation with similar skill point use AND could act as a fine breaker-dps where shielding was not necessary (March is not a dps at all). And the taunt working much more consistently is a major positive in long combat when you can't afford many stray bullets.
Seeing his video, I can see that March if played skillfully can work, but even he has some way of healing a little (as seen at MOC second half 4:21). Probably a light cone or something. But the point is that while she can be used, it isn't that controversial that she is the "worst" sustain in higher level content (although I don't know if that is still true in a no-eidolon comparison, which the dude is based to play lol).
Sure, with enough investment and understanding, she (like all 4 stars) can clear the hardest content, but it just takes so much more effort to achieve. And to be fair, she is designed like that. Just like Dan Heng, she will get a way superior 5 star version someday, although I still fail to comprehend why they changed his literal element. For March, who is WAY more linked to her element than Dan Heng she better remain Ice imo.
@@rowanmales3430 I'm waiting for awakened version of March 7th, just like DHIL xD
@@rowanmales3430 I don't disagree that March is skill intensive because most of the times she indeed is. But there are ways to mitigate that with correct building, using MoV/Landau's Choice, E4 and/or having enough DPS to end battles quickly.
March is very SP negative if you're trying to shield everyone, but she can be SP neutral and even positive if she is only shielding herself/the side.
The longer a battle is, the more likely your teammates will have taken hits and thus the more SP negative she'll be. She can be tricky to use, but comfortable to play with the right setup.
She does get healing at E6. It's not a lot, but it's not insignificant either and it has saved me from bad situations a couple of times.
Gepard is a lot more comfortable to run than March, but I'd argue that March's cleanse can be more meaningful depending on the content you're facing. I don't think either are good for every situation, they both have their shortcomings. In the end March's shortcomings are still bigger/more noticeable because she's still a 4* but there are definitely times when she shines.
@@purplecosmonaut The part your entire analysis is missing is that she was there for us at the early game.
I have no doubt that there are "ways" to make her OK. But it requires specific stuff combined, which by your own admission is a Lightcone that is 5-Star Standard Banner or a specific 4-Star Gacha one (and ideally at high superimposition), two late stage eidolons (4 and 6), and still then having enough invested dps to avoid long battles (which wasn't widespread at the beginning and MOC is designed to be long).
My point, is that even disregarding the skill point and skill factor, you cannot really say players should judge her based on her optimal build, when the playerbase had her as a main sustain when access to that build was very rng based.
I was didn't have a 5-star damage dealer for ages as I lost my Seele 50-50 to Welt (almost no enemies had imaginary weakness that early) and lost my first standard banner 50-50 to a Lightcone. And Jing Yuan, without mega investment, is hardly a great dps in non-erudition content. I was a DanHeng, QQ, and Sushang dps. I happen to have pulled March 7th e6 as my second fastest e6, but my first fastest was Natasha e6 lol.
Anyway, my point is that she required way too much rng luck to be good for the average casual at the beginning of the game.
Also, she has a cleanse, which is good, but let's not pretend it's flawless. It forces you to not only give a shield to that character (when you might need it elsewhere) but also changes the aggro target. Her direct competition being Natasha, who also had a single target skill cleanse (with healing rather than shielding), which didn't lock her out of healing a different teamaker that turn since she could also team-wide heal on ult. So the cleanse is good, but only an important consideration for those who had to chose between March and Gepard specifically. I still sadly do not have Gepard like most of the casual playerbase.
7:35 persona 4 OST, truly a man of culture
I started my Zero Gacha account at the start of 1.4 so i missed out on Sushang and S5 Before the tutorial mission starts
I'm hoping Honkai copies Genshin with an event to celebrate Chinese New year and give a free 4 stsr character from the Xianzhou as i really want a copy of Guinafen to synergise with Asta Fire MC and Hook for my burn team
If they release a similar system to what i saw in CODM where you can obtain previously released items such as the event weapons through a currency system where you get points from participating in current events.
Keep up the great content mate
Ty for the kind words! Glad to see a fellow zero gacha player!! I hope you have a wonderful journey, would love to hear your progress here and there 👍
As someone who's also f2p and has also not spent a single jade (not for much longer since i'll be pulling Ruan Mei ๐·°(⋟﹏⋞)°·๐) you're a really big inspiration. Your contents inspire me to try underrated characters and give me hope for clearing MoC 10 (currently not able to clear all MoC but i'll get there!). Rooting for you on your journey \\\(۶•̀ᴗ•́)۶//／／
Thank you, I appreciate it! And I pray for your swift success and victory in getting Ruan Mei!
are you getting c6 ruan mei?
Unfortunately i'll only have around 500 pulls by the time she comes out so i'm hoping to get e3 or e4! @@Bos_Meong
idk people forget that tier lists work comparatively, so March is indeed d tier compared to the rest of the units but you can still make her work
Comparatively she's still better than nat and fire trailblazer, and about equal to bailu and lynx overall, sometimes even being better than gepard depending on the fight. Like this current moc 10 I've tried sustaining with solo March and solo gepard, and solo March clears so much quicker and easier 100 percent of the time. So no, she is not d tier, not even close.
you need to build your gepard I guess.
@@zannax351 again comparatively shes still worse than lynx bailu and nat for sustaining, yes she deals dmg so it clears things faster and especially this MoC that buffs follow up attacks shes gonna overperform a little
@@Nutt_lemmings my gepard is almost fully built :3
As usual i like your content
Also i finally failed the no pull challenge and proceed to pull for huohuo. Manage to get her all the way to E3 and a piece of her light cone
Ever since the day i started the no pull challenge, i have an aim for a character that gives heal while giving attack buff and we now have a Huohuo exist
I'm pretty close to E4 if i can get a soft pity around 10-20 pulls before her banner gone. After her banner gone I'll be waiting for her rerun and get that crispy E6 attack buff while getting her lightcone to superimpose 5
Ty! I appreciate the support!! And Huohuo is great, she's a SUPER underrated unit right now. Most people will realized how OP she is and will want to pull her on the re-run (esp since she has offensive boost in her kit and they are releasing harder content, people will def regret it.)
@@zmm1337 e6 on her makes her a harmony character with heals
50% atk bonus from skill/e6, 48% atk bonus(max level talent) from ultimate, and s1 light cone also gives 2.4% atk bonus so it's a total of 100.4% atk bonus from huohuo herself to 1 character
it's way stronger if you have a well build character that has no crit issues and she keeps healing in many way, also there's the energy regen and 2 times ressurection around so i believe she's the best abundance character so far for me
#MarchIsDtier.
Yup, that's why Defense LC is a great option for her.
Facts 😂
The strategy I like to use with march is to pair her up with welt. Their ult combined CCed the enemies like crazy
Man welt is the only character I want so badly on my main account! and ya that sounds like CC hell for the enemies lol
I slept on building up a lot of starter characters like march, shushang and qq since i got geppy as my free 50pull and yangqing very early but ill make it my goal to actually work on these characters for the future. Also relics. Probably sitting on some gems that aren't set pieces.
the persona 4 music had me CACKLING!!! so glad I found this channel
this guy has the power that rivals noblies
I like his videos :)
People who say March is D tier try to shield every one in the party on every turn with def rope, boots and body relics, and have no EHR whatsoever on her, then get upset when she doesn't work. Yeah, ofc she's gonna feel like a D tier like that, what would you expect
I'm about 130 hours into the game, at TL 56 and am loving March 7th. she's the only character I've never taken off my team, but I have her built exactly like you described. Should I really not be building her that way?
exactly this people build her so poorly and just end up "oh I regret building march..." like shes the best sim uni char since shes so flexible imo for her utility
@@H4LOchannel If you use all def main stats, she's not gonna have any speed or the energy recharge for her ultimate. She *needs* her ultimate. Just as important as her tanky shield is her ability to freeze and her ultimate has 75% base chance to freeze. You need EHR body to ensure she'll land the freeze, speed boots to get more turns and more shields, and ERR to ensure her ultimate will be back up as much as possible. She has a plethora of options for LCs so I'm not gonna go into that but both Day One and Landau's Choice are probably her BiS depending on the content. And Moment of Victory as well ofc tho that's harder to acquire.
All def main stats relics gives you the chonkiest of the shields, but it won't do you any good if the rest of the team is dying because March is not fast enough to shield herself/priority teammate or to freeze the enemies.
EDIT: It's not needed but having Pela with March is really beneficial as well since Pela gives +10% EHR to every teammate.
@@Influocial She's fantastic for so many kinds of content and people really underestimate her value. Ofc she's not optimal for *every* situation and she has her shortcomings as well, but that's true for every single character in the game. I'll say, if anything, March's playstyle is possibly one of my favorites precisely because she's so risky and it feels really rewarding whenever you manage to solo sustain with her.
@@purplecosmonautwdym, everyone need their ultimates
March is def B at C6, she is comparable to fire mc at C6. But at C0 she’s prob C as losing even a little hp is a way bigger deal (which is why you try your hardest to get your burst to stun the enemy).
I'd say lower C or even D at E0 due to the energy loss she would get from freezing enemies for consistent ult uptime. Never tried her E0 though, I'm not really sure
@@anandasatria7734 ok so I have tried her E0, and she’s definitely high C. If we’re comparing her to a Bailu, the best way I can describe it is like
Himeko vs Blade ig idk
Great take, and I respect the fair anaylsis!
I really commend your efforts man!
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words
I really wanna try out the whole no warp thing but I feel like this is such a late time to do it, already missing out on a lot of free 4 stars and missing tutorial LC.
Ya it's definitely tough since they make a lot of things FOMO like 4 star chars & 4 star lightcones are all imposssible to get which sucks
Bro tried to give me edgerunners ptsd at the end 💀
LOL didnt think anyone would notice. nice catch
Insane how MC can still carry up until this point.
Well, Fire MC specifically, not sure about Physical MC.
Destruction trailblazer is just as competent as its preservation counterpart. It's just that there are better alternatives so most don't bother. But others being better =/= destruction trailblazer being bad.
Well fire MC is just too good but physical one isn't bad but I rather have free tank rather than free DPS
Phy mc in the same boat as sushang that he needs phy weak enemies and there really not that many
DMC is actually pretty nice, it's just that there aren't much physical weakness in the game rn, adn also, sushang
just started my account 3 days ago, speedrunning for my 1st limited, but I got gephard. i wondering what if i only play the starting char, then you're video came up.
woahaha, its decided.
Yooo that's a gigachad move, good luck on your journey fellow jade hoarder!
Haven't watched your full series, but question for you: Do you have friends that you use for support characters for some of the harder daily/weekly content? Cause sometimes even the relic domains and especially the bosses can be quite difficult I imagine at least in the early stages of developing your characters
I imagine yeah. Though danheng is seriously broken for starter, I can see him shreds even early content with semi decent relic
I have my alt account (main account that I have almost all chrs on for testing) but it's mainly to use to feed gold into it. For Relic domains and harder content like weekly boss, I just bring 2 sustain units and auto (somtimes even 3) xd
March has been been one of my only carry sustain till this very day other than Natasha (those are the only two i have built) and March is literally a big G with how much she clutches
Very impressive especially this long after the game released 🔥
🥲🙏
You inspired me to also make a warpless acoount! :D Its going pretty well!
Glad to hear that!! Good luck on your journey fellow trailblazer :)
This week's MoC is very difficult. I wonder if you can beat in 10 cycles.
I will do updated progress videos probably this weekend! It's definitely a big blow since they increased the bug by 100k hp per life (200k hp total) and took away 4 cycles... so disappointed in hoyoverse
cant wait to see new moc run
Will do my best! -6 cycles will be tough
gret video liked especially for the p4 music
That persona 4 ost on the fight w/ the stings >>>
🔥🔥🔥
By the Myriad Truths, We're really playing this game on easy mode arent we? Impressive work my guy
Love to see you managed to clear moc 10 with only f2p units.
About your march being in D tier thing, March is probably the worst preservation unit in the game but thats still ok because preservation as a whole have a higher floor than the other path. I’d rate March at B tier which is what I consider the base tier of any preservation unit atm.
Ty, and great breakdown of your take on March, I would put her in B tier as well realistically
The new MOC 10 has to be cleared with 20 cycles or less...
How you build physical mc? I have an idea building break effect on him but he needs luka I think
Built him hybrid! 2pc physical + 2pc break, atk rope, spd bots, (with priority on substats over set bonus) However Sushang allowed me to not use physical MC which has been nice!
I have a built freezebot M7. I used her well pre Fu Xuan & HuoHuo.
Ya she's still so goood even after the new releases. Definitely holding her own better than natasha for sure
the march trick is so smart why havent i thought of that 😭 i just found u and like your videos. instant sub!
Thank you! I will be making guides and tips when new endgame comes out!
Wow this is interesting 🤔. I never thought of putting March on 2nd slot.
Only hsr content creator worth subscribing
You KNOW this game. If there was a challenge to clear with only a certain draft you'd outplay everybody
why pela on 4 wind is it better than 4 musketter
Unfortunately, warpless is going to get a lot harder from this point on. The turns to clear have decreased by three, the variety of enemies is broadening, and the higher end is about to get more painful once they add the next two levels. From what I've heard, Lynx is going to be our next 'Warpless' handout, which is super nice, but unless they actually give us some power, the damage of the E0 Four-Star characters just isn't going to be enough. Still been a fun challenge for me, even with the squeeze.
70 Golden Tickets and 81k Jade. Staying strong for that future E6 unit.
Wow!!! So many Jades, glad to see a fellow zero warper. It's definitely gona be tough and maybe even impossible for moc 11/12 but I'm still definitely looking forward to it. Would love to hear about your progress in the future content as well 👍
When did you start playing
@@bletwort2920 Since day one. Was the perfect time to start.
enjoying dr ratio?
Mah man casually dropping this glorious March 7th tech 🙏
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Excelent video bro
Ty! :)
Id place her in C. Other sustains are just created much better than her. She is fine if invested and practiced, but she definitely sits among the lowest if ranked in some order.
Ya there are definitely stronger supports for certain situations. I.e. gepard is a great auto battle support. March is more utility than tank imo!
Ayyyy another one of us just using march to sustain
Poggggers March gang for life
Awesome mechanic play 👏👏
Saying march is D tier is way to harsh, im not saying she’s the best Preservation character but she deserves at least a B her shield whilst being single target is very strong and cleanses and she freezes often with her ult if you have effect res built into your March. That’s at least a B.
Ya I agree! great and fair take
I gotta ask man, if you were to ever pull on this account, what character would you pull for?
Ooo great question! I'm not quite sure yet but Im looking at maybe someone like March 7th 5* version! (but won't be pulling until maybe a year from now when I have enough to E6S5 someone)
Have ya made a discord server? and if not do ya plan on ever making one?
Hey! I will most likely post the discord this weekend once my mod finishes setting it up. Sorry for the lag! I will post it alongside the video this friday/sat most likely
Can I use the same shutter speed? I can't even save more than 10 spins
LOL
The only guy I won't get mad at when he put F2Pbtw in the sentence.
I was shocked to see Fire MC with only a 4 star head piece. One question I have is, if you aren't pulling characters then wouldn't you be able to put all your Trailblaze power into fully building the few characters you have? As someone who is mostly free to play, I find 4 stars really easy to build with their lower material costs.
ya exactly. since I don't have many chars to build, all power goes to relics pretty much. I have like 3x the relics and really good ones too compared to my main
besides the blade 4pc, says tie any other must have 4pcs for certain characters?
Quantum 4pc is the only one that I really like on any DPS (as long as it has good substats ofc since substats > 4pc set bonus). Other than that, there's no 4pc set bonus worth farming for if you have good substats relics and need to farm other stuff
i could’ve sworn march 7th could heal a bit??
Honestly is really surprising. I can't even beat MoC 7 with my actual account, with Jingliu, Bronya, Seele, Quingque E6, Tingyun, and so on. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong tbh, Is true my relics are terrible because of my insane bad luck in this game, but I should be able to beat the endgame of this game with what I have. I don't really understand tbh.
Congratulations anyway. Maybe someday I can beat MoC too. Or maybe not.
i also did some MALE only account challenge and yes i did warp limited MALE, i did beat Moc10 but 2 star only...
that's a cool challenge! Good luck on your journey!
if you make march7 speed about 160 and her EHR about 100+ then she is god tier. her freeze is just way beyond nonsense.
Ya her freeze is legit top 5 best ultimates in the game IMO. so much utility and cheese potential
What you think of crit rate relic for march 7 if your effect hit rate is high?
her offensive stats are definitely too low to make a real strong dent. However, if your team can survive everything with March, there's no harm in building more damage! (I can definitely not survive so I will build her strictly tank hehe)
They cut down the turns to 10 now.
Can you still do it without using Premium characters and cones ?
Cleared 9, haven't tried 10 yet, will definitely be the hardest one yet (only cleared 9 with exactly 20 cycles left when usually would take like like 22 cycles remain... 10 might be impossible, stay tune!)
if you have e6 march, you won't need a healer, unless the enemy stunlock you
Ya E6 March is one of the best utility + sustain in the game imo
Ok, I'm in the same situation where I haven't spent a single jade, but I can't come anywhere close to getting 3 stars on MOC 10. I can't survive, let alone do enough damage to do it in enough cycles. Hell, you clear the first half like 3 cycles fastee than I can. And I don't wanna atttibute it to just artifact luck. Like seriously, I'm missing something here, which sucks because it might just be a massive skill issue.
Hey, always great to see a fellow no jade user! A lot of it is definitely the relics (I prioritize substats over 4pc set which is very important). Also fire MC as break really helps as well for enemies that are weak to fire
@zmm1337 Dude, it's so Joever for us in the new Abyss. We have 4 less cycles now to 3 star. I'm even struggling to 3 star in the floors leading up to floor 10. Good luck to you though. Would be awesome to see you rise up to the challenge!
Wow nice
Guy shows you can sustain with March 7th, and fire mc
Viewers: mid, D tier
These people just parrot what other content creators say, and don't know how to actually play the game ☝️🤓
Everyone is s tier its just that some characters perform better than others
like march 7th with geppie who shields the whole team instead of 1 but does that mean march 7th is necessarily bad? No if you know how to use her shes good
I don't think you understand the definition of the English word "tier". The point is that March is just worse than other options. With the right relics (investing a lot of stamina and IRL time) every single character on the roster will be usable. You do understand that everyone can't be the best (and someone has to be the worst), right?
@@exu7325But honestly i dont care about those "tier list" or whatever that is.
As long as we can clear the contents, why should we care? This game is not pvp oriented right?
If people care too much about meta and tier list, whenever we couldnt get characters that being "highest tier", we would feel depressed like " oh no, i can't beat swarm without DHIL"... Well, seems like they didnt build their QQ yet, or herta.
Even some "meta slaves" people quit the game because they lost 50/50. Like what would you do if you didnt lose 50/50? Screenshot the damage and send it to hoyolab or something?
Hoyoverse: hold my tickets
Bam -4 turns for 3star
LOL it feels that they're personally attacking me :(
Its a nice Video, and I really enjoy it. But can you pleasee.....
Showing us a complete run of your F2P team? Its really confuse me with your back and forward editing in the video 😥 I know you want to explain about how you can play it. But please, it just really confusing to watch the scene back and forward. And I absolutely love and appreciate it if you can show us the whole complete run without cut.
Thanks
Hey! Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it and yeah for future, I will include purely the full gameplay after the commentary since I know a some people like to just watch gameplay
@@zmm1337 Thank you too for replying. What I mean is, I really learning something new from your vid (like putting March7th in middle, that really blow my mind 🤯) . But sometime, I also learning from a complete run video, like how people make decision in the middle of battle (When to ult, Which enemies to target, etc.). Keep up the good work man 👍
God damnit man, now u make me wanna play p4g all over again 😂
LOL
Crazy how this guy can clear twice as fast than my blade and dhil carry
Ur doing something wrong then
Definitely a skill issue right there
@@roqle11 definitely
relics issue
Hey! I'm a day 1 player and I believe that relics are way more powerful than pulling chars even for this game. My strategy is to prioritize the substats on relics, good substats is better than 4pc set bonus if you have at least 5 more rolls overall!
March is not a D -tier she's a Useurbrain-tier .
trueeee
one question... HOW?! They need to bring MoC 11 & 12 for you already
LOL tbh it takes a lot of attempts and I'm barely making it over. MoC 11, and MoC 12 will destroy me :L
March D-tier allegations are crazy she's more than proved herself with people who have reading comprehension. My hot take is that she is at worst comparable to Gepard due to how strong the Freeze build for her is and all of Gepard's issues.
Ya I definitely feel more comfy using March than Gepard even on my main account. Gepard is nice for autoplay, but if I manual, I need my March!
Whoever puts marvh in D tier probably have gepard or skill issue (they probably have a good reason)
😂
feer-ee ma-JEST-ee
I thought ppl already know about the 2nd position tanks / sustain? Also march is S tier.
Yeah unfortunately it's a very niche concept since most players don't play tank and no one has made an updated guide for March 7th yet. Guess I might xD
The problem of MoC is not a sustain, it's damage. How did your Herta do 220k damage per Ultimate?
yukong is busted if you can time her buffs correctly.
I remember people laughed when i said Fu Xuan is skippable because freeze 7 does her Job well enough
Yeah cuz Fu Xuan is better anyway
The difference is with Fu xuan you can autobattle MOC 10, with March you have to invest several runs to get one where the Rng didn't f you over halfway through.
May I know who are you saving for?
Potentially Mei or March 5* version but we will see :)
How do you have Pela if this was a no warping account?
Aetherium wars event gave a choice of a free Serval Pela Hook or Luka
The true question to ask is March 7 or Gepard?
Any! Both are great. Gepard is great for auto play. March is great for cheesing early game content like Swarm Disaster and cheaper to build since she's a 4 star
Wow, such a gigachad
now 3 star is 20 turns remaining :(
March 7th is S tier I love her and I have her built
gigachad
Bruh I have been building not annoying Paimon wrong the entire time
Me not beating this with only starter characters is just a massive skill issue in my part I am sad
You got this!! It took me many tries with starter characters but very possible!
March 7th supremacy
people who say march is d tier have never built her she’s not the best but not bad
trueeee, she's also the utility goddess. more of that than a tank for me
People underestimate how freezing is so broken when it comes to turn manipulation