In the atheist joke, the Pope is saying to the atheist that disproving God is like trying to find a black cat in a dark room that isn't there. The atheist, insulted by this, turns the analogy around by saying to the Pope that God himself is the black cat that isn't there. The clever wordplay that the atheist uses to reverse the analogy is what makes the joke funny.
@@shaunelliott6972 If you try to be a smart arse to someone in the comments trying to help the creator out with a question asked within the video itself, then you end up looking like a fool.
I used to watch Dave Allen when I was growing up in England back in the 70's. I remember him sitting in that chair, always smoking and drinking scotch or some other kind of alcohol. He was loved by many.
@@kadzunk63 they didn't have ice back then in pubs, only at posh do's. The only thing that was cold was the barrels. The bottled beer came off the shelf.
@@paulbromley6687 It was because of a childhood accident, his finger got trapped in some old machinery. He was off school for a short period, and when he returned he would tell those who asked him about it funny stories.
I'm not sure you grasped the joke he stated regarding the burial. He said he use to bless himself "In the name of the Father, the Son and into the hole he goes".
Hah, thanks for presenting this, Antoinette. I actually remember "Dave Allen at Large" being broadcast repeatedly in the early 1980s, and watching it as a kid on the local PBS station. I probably didn't get half the jokes, but I got enough of them. Maybe "politically incorrect" before that term came into use, but his humor wasn't meant to be nasty, spiteful, or ridicule people (except the stupid!). The humor is even more relevant to people who are Irish, Roman Catholic, and / or BOTH! Dave Allen was an athiest, God Bless Him, but that didn't mean he was a bad person. Quite the contrary. He seemed much more honest than some who profess to be religious. Cheers!
Dave Allen's Black cat joke is based on what is known as the Black Cat Analogy, it compares Philosophy, Metaphysics, Theology and Science, he only uses two of the four parts. Philosophy: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat. Metaphysics: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. Theology: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there and shouting I've found it. Science: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat using a flashlight.
Dave Allen was the first funny storyteller on British TV. Everyone who came after him was a copy. Plenty of people think they are funny. People like Dave who were born funny dont have to try. Although often poking fun at religion, especially Catholicism which he was brought up, he always ended his shows with " May your God go with you" th-cam.com/video/sA-iF45pOlI/w-d-xo.html
@@love-vy1ry the stories ARE chaos... I only found out last year when, out of curiousity, I started to read the bible. I mean everything in the bible, not just the parts we were taught to read in school. But I wouldn't recommend to be or become an atheist. Just be a non-believer. Because being an atheist would mean that you would state that there is SOMETHING to not believe in. As if you would say okay there is a God but I don't believe in it. Quite a dilemma. I am a non-believer. I don't believe in God or Jesus. But I do believe in the good that is in everyone. And that what people call "God" is simply a spark of infinity/nature/universe that every person is born with. And it is up to us ourselves to nurture that seed, or let it wither. But that is just my own feeling. And I do believe that every person has a right to their own believe or religion.
@@kadzunk63 your logics a little flawed , atheists don't state anything, they merely reject the statements of the religious who have no evidence to prove their statements .
I was pre teen in the seventies and I loved that man, why? He made my mum and dad laugh so hard it was a total joy to watch. I do have one particular memory of my mum getting up suddenly half way through his show and my dad asking where she was going. Her reply? I just peed myself a bit. God that just totaly killed me. I remember being on the floor almost in pain from laughing. It is a memory I truly cherish. Thank you Dave Allen for giving me these. RIP you are truly missed.
I always thought it was Irish whiskey. But today I found out that it was just ginger beer with ice... blegh! Wikipedia has burst another one of my bubbles 😢
If you actually read the Bible you would be absolutely shocked at some of the content there’s everything from incest, rape, murder and genocide and god seems to both agree and instigate it!
He mentioned Catholics,Anglicans,Baptists,,How can you say he didn't mention any Christians?? Plenty of variations of Christianity out there. look it up.
They were having a conversation during the garden of Eden. What was the kind of Language that was being used at the time up to the creation of the Babylonian Tower?
apparantly it was some kind of universal language (perhaps Hebrew) since the bible says that the scattering of the language so that nobody would understand one another, was only AFTER the Babylonian Tower was destroyed
@@kadzunk63 Adam and Eve can communicate with the Animals, couldn't that there telepathic during those times and what was switched off during the time of Babylon for the humans were so noisy. genesis 11:7 Come, let "US" go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another’s speech. What kind of Language that can annoy a God, and who US? What kind of language that can communicate with a Snake? 😆 The hebrew/Canaanite language came on the later part.
@@wtchtower Interesting! I've never thought about telepathic language. I read that Adam was assigned the naming of the animals etc, so I figured that was only for allowing the people to name the animals etc. Because the animals wouldn't be talking back :) * Quote: genesis 11:7 Come, let "US" go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another’s speech. What kind of Language that can annoy a God, and who US? * end of quote: Why wouldn't God say "US"? Kings and Queens do it all the time :)
In that joke about the black cat in the darkened room I got a totally different meaning. I thought the black cat was a representation of religion. Therefore, when the Pope says you haven't found the black cat he's saying to the Atheist you have yet to find religion (or God), whereas the Atheist then says in reply but you are the same except that you've found religion or God because you found the black cat whereas I'm still searching. Anyway, still funny as far as I'm concerned. Dave Allen was a comic genius
I like his way of always teasing the Religions, no matter which ones but it is obvious that he likes to go after the chatolic church maybe because he was raised as one him self. The scriptures are hard to take serious. So many things that do not add up. Like Kain going out in the world and found a wife. How did he do that. If Adam and Eve where the first people and Cain Abel and Seth where their sons how was there any other people in other places of the world. Then some try to explain it could be a daughter of Adam and Eve that had not been mentioned. But then why go out in the world to find her, she most have been somewhere around and also if this was the case would that not be considered incest and therefore not allowed.
Also God never abolished slavery. Also also he is god... He knew all of this would happen before hand, so why should he be angry about anything that a man does? Why are some people so stupid?
might have claimed to have found a God that wasn't there. But because of himself being the Pope would never be able or allowed to tell that to people because the Pope would have to keep people believing in God. A bit like the fairytale The Emperor's New clothes...
Interesting how people don't even know their own religion. "He didn't say nothing about Christians!" Anglicans, Baptists, and Catholics mentioned in the video: Are we a joke to you?
You missed the beginning of the black cat joke. It's an atheist arguing with the pope about the existence of god. Dave Allen grew up in the Catholic Church but became an atheist
Dave Allen never actually became an atheist. His jokes were centred around the hypocrisy of organised religion more than the belief in god itself. In fact, he use to end his shows/skits/routines with "...and may your god go with you"!
Dave, like every child was born an atheist, he was raised in a Catholic environment, then he started to use his mind, and lost his faith in bronze age explanations. This charming happy lady I think may lack the intellectual training to lose her faith. I have no problem with that if her beliefs don't negatively affect others.
It's about an explination for the universe... The Athiest is in a dark room, blindfolded looking for a black cat that isn't there (the explination) the Pope found the black cat that wasn't there (God)
Define "spiritual" That is just as cringe as the old video where the dude said that "I hate religion, but love jesus". Just become an atheist like normal people.
@@Nekoksu I am spiritual but not religious. That means that I do believe in a higher power in nature. But I do NOT believe in God of Jesus because I consider them to be man-made. The Christian bible is a book that was dictated by the Catholic church (especially the New Testament. And the Catholic church developed from the Romans that were around at the time the bible tells us that Jesus was alive. For me it just doesn't feel right. I believe that what people call "God" is simply a spark of infinity/nature that every person is born with and it is up to us ourselves to nurture that seed, or let it wither. But that is just my own feeling. And I do believe that every person has a right to their own believe or religion.
@@kadzunk63 but it works the same with atheists. Many ppl claim they are atheists by which they mean they don't attend church or some other religious place of worship, and they don't believe in a deity but @ the same time they spend a small fortune on psychics.
@@westnblu I will go out on a limb here and suggest that if atheists are not gullible enough to believe in God, then they are not likely to believe in psychics either.
FYI, Catholics are Christians but just a different branch of Christianity. There are other branches of Christianity such as protestants, Baptists, Anglicans etc
The athesiast is saying to the Pope that his belief in God equates to the the blind folded man in a totally dark room who has found the black cat. In effect the Pope's belief in God is the same as the blind folded man believing he found the black cat.
Your clearly new to this channel , but watch the others Tommy Cooper the two Ronnies Billy Connolly Les Dawson , tommy cooper this worlds worst Magician he done tricks that all turned out wrong , but that was his act
so much context missing. Just sad people react to compilations. And why is it that every black person on TH-cam has their fire alarm chirping like they're trying to be the stereotype.
Dave Allen was a satirist, particularly clever with his religious satire. I think he was an Atheist anyway. How brilliant he was with his humor. Kate Australia
Oh the naivety of the religious believer. It's more comic than the jokes.
The black cat that isn't there and finding it refers to a God that doesn't exist yet somehow the pope found/made up one anyway.
He was a genius. One of God's greatest comedians. Sorely missed 🙏
Great use of irony there.
He was an out and out atheist, so he wasn't their imaginary friend's anything.
"They didn't say anything about the Christians" 😂 last time I checked Anglicans, baptists and catholics are Christians. 🇬🇧
Religious American people usually go on the other side of the wall and think that they and the Catholics are the only ones there!
That was too hilarious 🤭🤭
In the USA the Anglicans are called Episcopalians, because the word “Anglican” means “English”, which was a problem after 1776 and all that.
@@stereoroid why, what happened in 1776? 😂
Sorry, British sense of humour ✌❤🇬🇧
She's black
In the atheist joke, the Pope is saying to the atheist that disproving God is like trying to find a black cat in a dark room that isn't there. The atheist, insulted by this, turns the analogy around by saying to the Pope that God himself is the black cat that isn't there. The clever wordplay that the atheist uses to reverse the analogy is what makes the joke funny.
And logically so.
If you have to explain it then it isn't funny.
@@shaunelliott6972 If you try to be a smart arse to someone in the comments trying to help the creator out with a question asked within the video itself, then you end up looking like a fool.
@@ChullsterOG Yes, but how do you help the creator if the creator's not there?
@@quarkwrok swoosh! 😂
As an Irish man who grew up in the same area of Dublin as Dave Allen, I know exactly why he thinks of religion the way he does.
Because it's true, religion is a con and a bad joke combined.
I used to watch Dave Allen when I was growing up in England back in the 70's. I remember him sitting in that chair, always smoking and drinking scotch or some other kind of alcohol. He was loved by many.
It was ginger ale as he would only kid on that it was alcohol
@@erict956 I just found out today that it was just ginger ale with ice. Too bad :)
Me too I always wondered why he had the top missing of his index finger
@@kadzunk63 they didn't have ice back then in pubs, only at posh do's. The only thing that was cold was the barrels. The bottled beer came off the shelf.
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It was because of a childhood accident, his finger got trapped in some old machinery. He was off school for a short period, and when he returned he would tell those who asked him about it funny stories.
The black cat is God. The Pope has found God even though he isn't there.
He did mention Christians. For one he mentioned several different denominations of Christianity before mentioning Catholics
I'm not sure you grasped the joke he stated regarding the burial. He said he use to bless himself "In the name of the Father, the Son and into the hole he goes".
' I have an open mind' she says....Aaawww Duuuh!
Hah, thanks for presenting this, Antoinette. I actually remember "Dave Allen at Large" being broadcast repeatedly in the early 1980s, and watching it as a kid on the local PBS station. I probably didn't get half the jokes, but I got enough of them. Maybe "politically incorrect" before that term came into use, but his humor wasn't meant to be nasty, spiteful, or ridicule people (except the stupid!). The humor is even more relevant to people who are Irish, Roman Catholic, and / or BOTH! Dave Allen was an athiest, God Bless Him, but that didn't mean he was a bad person. Quite the contrary. He seemed much more honest than some who profess to be religious. Cheers!
Dave Allen's Black cat joke is based on what is known as the Black Cat Analogy, it compares Philosophy, Metaphysics, Theology and Science, he only uses two of the four parts.
Philosophy: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat.
Metaphysics: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.
Theology: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there and shouting I've found it.
Science: Is like being in a dark room looking for a black cat using a flashlight.
Dave Allen was the first funny storyteller on British TV. Everyone who came after him was a copy. Plenty of people think they are funny. People like Dave who were born funny dont have to try. Although often poking fun at religion, especially Catholicism which he was brought up, he always ended his shows with " May your God go with you" th-cam.com/video/sA-iF45pOlI/w-d-xo.html
I liked him a lot. Especially his ending " May your God go with you". Because everybody may have his or her personal idea about God
Please read the WHOLE bible. Also the verses, never brought out in church.
I promise you, if you read the whole bible, you will turn atheist too.
The stories are completely chaos.....
Most atheists have read the bible more than Christians have that's why they became atheists!
@@love-vy1ry the stories ARE chaos... I only found out last year when, out of curiousity, I started to read the bible. I mean everything in the bible, not just the parts we were taught to read in school.
But I wouldn't recommend to be or become an atheist. Just be a non-believer. Because being an atheist would mean that you would state that there is SOMETHING to not believe in. As if you would say okay there is a God but I don't believe in it. Quite a dilemma.
I am a non-believer. I don't believe in God or Jesus. But I do believe in the good that is in everyone. And that what people call "God" is simply a spark of infinity/nature/universe that every person is born with. And it is up to us ourselves to nurture that seed, or let it wither. But that is just my own feeling. And I do believe that every person has a right to their own believe or religion.
@@kadzunk63 Problem is that religion(s) never leave you alone.
@@kadzunk63 your logics a little flawed , atheists don't state anything, they merely reject the statements of the religious who have no evidence to prove their statements .
I was pre teen in the seventies and I loved that man, why? He made my mum and dad laugh so hard it was a total joy to watch. I do have one particular memory of my mum getting up suddenly half way through his show and my dad asking where she was going. Her reply? I just peed myself a bit. God that just totaly killed me. I remember being on the floor almost in pain from laughing. It is a memory I truly cherish. Thank you Dave Allen for giving me these. RIP you are truly missed.
In the name of the father and in the son AND INTO THE HOLE HE GOES 😂
The pope found god, the atheist didn’t. Joke, both looking for something that isn’t there but one found it.
Anglicans and Baptists are two Christian Denominations. He mentioned them amongst all the other religions before the man asked about the large wall.
Glass of whisky. Irish Whisky, of course.
If it's Irish it's whiskey, not whisky. I shall now remove my pendant hat and shut up.
@@gwtpictgwtpict4214 No need to remove the hat when it comes to the correct spelling of whiskey!
I always thought it was Irish whiskey. But today I found out that it was just ginger beer with ice... blegh! Wikipedia has burst another one of my bubbles 😢
She says it wasn't a snake it was something else , really!! the name
that was used in the bible was a serpent, same thing
She says it wasn't a snake, it was doughnuts and Hotdogs and stuff like that.
If you actually read the Bible you would be absolutely shocked at some of the content there’s everything from incest, rape, murder and genocide and god seems to both agree and instigate it!
And most of it's blessed by that 'God' bloke.
Dave Allen was popular in the UK back in the 70s and 80s. There are other good comedians from that time.
Atheist has never found the cat because it isn't there but the pope is imagining the cat (that isn't there) and telling everyone that he's found it x
The black cat joke is for open minded people…lol
He is an Irish Catholic and was banned in Irland.
We KNOW that there never was a "First Man" or "First Woman". The Adam andEve story is obviously made up - with giant holes in the plot.
He mentioned Catholics,Anglicans,Baptists,,How can you say he didn't mention any Christians?? Plenty of variations of Christianity out there. look it up.
I think the word you're looking for is serpent. Not hot dogs. 😂
It didn't happen. It's a joke...like religion. But good luck to you, and all power to you. You seem to be nice, and that still counts for something.
Shes a bit slow on picking up the joke. But america has a different sense of humour
They don’t get it do they🤭
They were having a conversation during the garden of Eden. What was the kind of Language that was being used at the time up to the creation of the Babylonian Tower?
apparantly it was some kind of universal language (perhaps Hebrew) since the bible says that the scattering of the language so that nobody would understand one another, was only AFTER the Babylonian Tower was destroyed
@@kadzunk63 Adam and Eve can communicate with the Animals, couldn't that there telepathic during those times and what was switched off during the time of Babylon for the humans were so noisy.
genesis 11:7
Come, let "US" go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another’s speech.
What kind of Language that can annoy a God, and who US? What kind of language that can communicate with a Snake? 😆
The hebrew/Canaanite language came on the later part.
@@wtchtower Well, Harry Potter used Parseltongue 😉
@@wtchtower Interesting! I've never thought about telepathic language. I read that Adam was assigned the naming of the animals etc, so I figured that was only for allowing the people to name the animals etc. Because the animals wouldn't be talking back :)
* Quote: genesis 11:7
Come, let "US" go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another’s speech.
What kind of Language that can annoy a God, and who US? * end of quote:
Why wouldn't God say "US"? Kings and Queens do it all the time :)
@@kadzunk63 Apparently Donald Trump uses telepathic language to declassify government documents.
The black cat that the atheist claims the Pope found is 'god !!!
Dave allen has class
In that joke about the black cat in the darkened room I got a totally different meaning. I thought the black cat was a representation of religion. Therefore, when the Pope says you haven't found the black cat he's saying to the Atheist you have yet to find religion (or God), whereas the Atheist then says in reply but you are the same except that you've found religion or God because you found the black cat whereas I'm still searching. Anyway, still funny as far as I'm concerned. Dave Allen was a comic genius
I like his way of always teasing the Religions, no matter which ones but it is obvious that he likes to go after the chatolic church maybe because he was raised as one him self.
The scriptures are hard to take serious. So many things that do not add up. Like Kain going out in the world and found a wife. How did he do that. If Adam and Eve where the first people and Cain Abel and Seth where their sons how was there any other people in other places of the world. Then some try to explain it could be a daughter of Adam and Eve that had not been mentioned. But then why go out in the world to find her, she most have been somewhere around and also if this was the case would that not be considered incest and therefore not allowed.
The whole book is full of contradictions and scientifically proven false statements !
Also God never abolished slavery. Also also he is god... He knew all of this would happen before hand, so why should he be angry about anything that a man does? Why are some people so stupid?
It was a Naga, possibly Lilith. They changed it to a snake because they recognized the universal fear/hate reflex most people have.
Found a black cat that isn't there. Claimed of to have found a God that isn't the real true Creator of all things.
might have claimed to have found a God that wasn't there. But because of himself being the Pope would never be able or allowed to tell that to people because the Pope would have to keep people believing in God.
A bit like the fairytale The Emperor's New clothes...
Interesting how people don't even know their own religion.
"He didn't say nothing about Christians!"
Anglicans, Baptists, and Catholics mentioned in the video: Are we a joke to you?
The black cat is god
Dave allen on doctors and smokers very funny
What language is she speaking.... translation ?
You missed the beginning of the black cat joke. It's an atheist arguing with the pope about the existence of god.
Dave Allen grew up in the Catholic Church but became an atheist
Dave Allen never actually became an atheist. His jokes were centred around the hypocrisy of organised religion more than the belief in god itself. In fact, he use to end his shows/skits/routines with "...and may your god go with you"!
@@RocksterOO1 No he did admit to being an atheist in an interview!
@@geoffmower8729 I must have missed that. Although I suspect that came a lot later in his career, based on what I mentioned in my earlier comment!
@@RocksterOO1 4:50 into this clip "I am what you might call a practicing atheist." So not really that hard to figure out he was an atheist. :)
Dave, like every child was born an atheist, he was raised in a Catholic environment, then he started to use his mind, and lost his faith in bronze age explanations.
This charming happy lady I think may lack the intellectual training to lose her faith. I have no problem with that if her beliefs don't negatively affect others.
I do believe the Bible described it as a serpent, not a snake; but by definition, a snake is a serpent.
Hi Antionette as a new subscriber I love you’re channel plz keep it great love 😘😘😘
It's about an explination for the universe... The Athiest is in a dark room, blindfolded looking for a black cat that isn't there (the explination) the Pope found the black cat that wasn't there (God)
If we all came from Adam and Eve then there was some naughty things going on.
I'm eating a crunchy, juicy 🟢 apple right now😅
Sorry, you obviously still believe in that black cat that isn't there 🙂
What you don't seem to realise, Antoinette, is that DA is undermining the nonsense of religion.
You really aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed😂
Nobody went to the pub till after the Dave Allen show
He's found the black cat - he's got ....faith.
Anything from the word of your chosen god to check the smoke alarm batteries?
The black cat was not there so the man told the Pope he found that black cat.
There is a huge difference between being religious n spiritual
Define "spiritual" That is just as cringe as the old video where the dude said that "I hate religion, but love jesus". Just become an atheist like normal people.
@@Nekoksu I am spiritual but not religious. That means that I do believe in a higher power in nature. But I do NOT believe in God of Jesus because I consider them to be man-made. The Christian bible is a book that was dictated by the Catholic church (especially the New Testament. And the Catholic church developed from the Romans that were around at the time the bible tells us that Jesus was alive. For me it just doesn't feel right. I believe that what people call "God" is simply a spark of infinity/nature that every person is born with and it is up to us ourselves to nurture that seed, or let it wither. But that is just my own feeling. And I do believe that every person has a right to their own believe or religion.
@@kadzunk63 but it works the same with atheists. Many ppl claim they are atheists by which they mean they don't attend church or some other religious place of worship, and they don't believe in a deity but @ the same time they spend a small fortune on psychics.
@@kadzunk63 In what ways are you spiritual?
@@westnblu I will go out on a limb here and suggest that if atheists are not gullible enough to believe in God, then they are not likely to believe in psychics either.
Dave allen on doctors and smokers 😢
It was a serpent, which in the Biblical narrative, was a snake, so Dave is correct.
.. they change fire alarm batteries? .. ya, THEY
God is the cat
FYI, Catholics are Christians but just a different branch of Christianity. There are other branches of Christianity such as protestants, Baptists, Anglicans etc
WHY DID YOU BOTHER WATCHING DAVE ALLEN ?? QUITE OBVIOUS YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOUR. HIS JOKES TOTALLY OVER YOUR HEAD
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You remind me of my sister. So full of happiness that I automatically subscribed 😊
The black cat equates to your belief in God.
Religious Robot.
It's a comedy, not a documentary.
The athesiast is saying to the Pope that his belief in God equates to the the blind folded man in a totally dark room who has found the black cat. In effect the Pope's belief in God is the same as the blind folded man believing he found the black cat.
The black cat is god.
Temptation
Snake/serpent
Black women don't understand English humour
Godd not there buy you found him
It wasnt a snake cos it had legs and god removed them to punish it
The atheist accuses the pope of finding something, God, that does not exist.
God is the black cat that isn't there. Get it now?
THAT THE AVERAGE OLD AGE OR LIFE 40
"Wait" ? Why?
Girl, don't overthink Bible, otherwise you might become atheist as well :D We know it wasn't snake. It was black cat :)
You are an open minded Christian so i just subscribed 💓💋
Whatch davie Allan Airplane.
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Your clearly new to this channel , but watch the others Tommy Cooper the two Ronnies Billy Connolly Les Dawson , tommy cooper this worlds worst Magician he done tricks that all turned out wrong , but that was his act
you people some tmes think that his comey is seriouse
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I don't get the black cat thing either.
There are several comments here before yours explaining the joke.
Pop did find the black cat which is not there. The black cat represents GOD. It means god doesn't exist.,, isn't there.
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Don't put your modern religious biases on his comedy.
so much context missing. Just sad people react to compilations.
And why is it that every black person on TH-cam has their fire alarm chirping like they're trying to be the stereotype.
The Devil
Alcohol does more damage than anyone will accept who drinks it, you do not need to try it to know that.
Can someone translate this guys comment?
@@Nekoksu you drunk 😀
At least that's evidence that alcohol not only exist, but does something!
Dave Allen was a satirist, particularly clever with his religious satire. I think he was an Atheist anyway. How brilliant he was with his humor. Kate Australia
It wasn't alcohol in that glass, just ginger ale !! Kate
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