For the next one I'm hoping for the new > made in Japan < Victas VJ 07 Series! :-) I prefer medium rubbers. But Medium can be an Evolution EL-P, Rasanter R47 or even a light Tenergy 05
Great review as usual. I'm an amateur and I replaced the Hexer Grip with a Grip SFX and love it. With the Grip I often overshoot the table. The Grip will definitely be used when I gain more technique.
Thanks for the video! What sponge thickness do you use in your reviews? I would love to see a video from you, where you explain how different sponge thickness effects the performance of the rubber. Perhaps also explain what the difference between a hard blade + soft sponge and soft blade + hard sponge are. Thanks! :-)
I'm so glad I found this video, so hard to find reviews for these rubber. The only thing I'd love to see is a more in depth comparison between the grip and the power grip, I can't decide which one I buy
if you are a mid distance looper, go for the grip. you'll have that elesticity and comfort. if you are a close range countertop/blocker go for power grip. more direct and precise. both have enough power far away.
@@Zidane13893not worse than other rubbers i think but i cannot really rate this because i don't know well about rubbers and this is the first hard rubber i have ever played.
I used Andro powergrip, beat rubbers and felt they are pretty good in terms of catapult. I can only imagine the catapult effect of the new rubbers in the market now a days.
@@Anonymousigma-n9b well how come Chinese players use Chinese rubbers? It's that you might think of them as rubbish, but when you play with Chinese rubbers you need to use a different technique
@@jl6842 hey JI, understanding the view u are coming from. Do u know what chinese rubbers are made of... synthetic rubber and its also tacky rubber German and Japanese rubber are made from proper high grade rubber. I consider it cheating or easy play if you use chinese rubber. With chinese rubber its not about how you play its about how the rubber makes you play. Have u ever used short pimples or long pimples or even tacky rubber...
Welcome to the rare breed My friend 😂 I Run sauer tröger firestarter racket with friendshiep 738 1.0mm for chop defense away from table then hexer powergrip 1.9mm fh green to confuse the chop side 😂🤥
Im on about 15 hours of training/match play with Hexer grip 1.9 red on my backhand and Hexer Powergrip 2.1 forehand. My level was up the first night I used it, no bullshit...Today I beat a guy up pretty good that I haven't beat at his house in over a year. The thought process is gone now I just swing and the control is so real that I can play a little reckless and the ball lands on the table...the Tenergy rubbers either go into the net or off the table it was a constant struggle for over a year. Service returns are a breeze and that was my main weakness this stuff stops the spin it's crazy!...Every player so far is having trouble with my loops I was getting knocked around with Tenergy the Powergrip has very good spin especially with brushing loops I can pull some digs out...1800-2000 level
@@hendrytjandra8544 It feels pretty close to ButterflyTO-5...Hexer PowerGrip 2.1 has more spin on my loops that TO-5 it was the very first thing that I noticed..it is a tad slower coming off the rubber but builds more spin at the end...
So many years, and I still use Hexer Grip. But, for some reason, they don't want to cheapen it. 😅 Question: Are the new Andro rubbers with a hardness of 45 degrees similar to Hexer Grip? Regards! 👋
I actually play Rozena on my forehand still working on a stable topspin, but will try Hexer Grip SFX now to get more controll, let's see ;) ... great review as always, keep it up!
2 questions for u guys- 1. How does the harder rubber compare to the rasanter r50? 2. Could u guys compare 2 different brands?... like acuda p2 VS rasanter r47?
Hey Dan, you say that you use the Treiber FI blade, but isn't it the Treiber CI you are holding? Also, you mention that it is a carbon setup which Treiber FI is not.
I want to get the Novacell off with the Hexer powergrip on the FH, but I don't know which one I should get on the BH. My style on the backhand is block and I love it to smash against backspin (played many hard rubbers before).
I will have these on my Blade by tomorrow morning, Grip on backhand..Power Grip on forehand 1.9 and 2.1 After 1 year and 3 rubber buys of Tenergy 019 backhand (1.9) and Tenergy 05 Forehand (2.1) I will test it on wed. night for our monthly club tournament it should be a decent experiment...
Is it only the powergrip sfx and grip (normal) that is tested? I just got confused cuz in the start he talks about all four rubbers but later he says "this rubber is great at..." Without saying if it is the Hexer Grip or Powergrip he got on his backhand? Am I wrong or?
Hexer is the best. I've used it on a flexible blade (gambler speed ,both fh and bh ), a super stiff one ( Sanwei f3 fro, backhand ), and all round blade ( Andro csv all+ , both sides ) and I'll say this - get used to the gears, and you'll be rewarded. Spin, control, and power, it's all there.
Anton Praja I've tried the alc and imo stick to the alc if you have it, f3 pro has too much bounce and lifting backspin with forehand is a pain, might just be my incorrect technique though. Anyway what I'm saying it's super fast and hard to control, and unless you play for hours and hour and mold your technique to fit the blade, you'll feel like it's a waste of money. Edit: also note that it has Zero dwell time cuz it's super stiff
@@demhandzz I did play with F3 pro of my friend's. It's true, the control for short game were a pain. But it was good for smashing and looping for far distance...
Anton Praja so my set up on the f3 pro is a Hexer Duro on the backhand and a Yoo Nam hype KR on the fore, After a bit of practice and adjustments, I think that anything to do with the backhand is perfect, be it flicks, blocks, short pushes, looping backspin and so on Smashing on the forehand is really good, you get a nice click sound with proper contact that I really like, and again short pushes and chops are good, The only downside is when I loop backspin from close, the ball has low spin which my opponents can easily hit for a winner, and when I get far from the table, I have to flat hit because topspinning becomes a problem, But again that might be me and my improper technique, because I'm a taller player (6"1) and require a larger/wider stroke so my timing gets messed up and the blade is again really fast This was just my two penny thoughts, if you think the blade works for you and you can get good control, go for it Also I'm just a random person on the Internet, and since you don't know how I play, take my opinions with a grain of salt
Hi guys! I wonder what is difference between PowerGrip SFX and Grip (standard, non SLX version). I know that the first is 42,5 and second one 45 of hardness. Does it mean that PowerGrip SFX is a little slower but has better control? I want to use Grip SFX on BH and I'm not sure is better to get the PowerGrip SFX or Grip on FH.
Magnus Madsen Right. Although I haven’t meant anyone with the AZXi yet to see if it as good as it sounds. The Timo ALC is an all around safe choice, well known and many players use it. The AZXi will be a risk to purchase blindly w/o trying because it’s so new. Just want a comparison👌🏼
I just bought the Azxi and I tell you, it's something else. Haven't got to use it more than one session but my forehand (Zlc side) with Hexer Powergrip 2.1 mm is amazing, have not got to try out my backhand (Alc side) with Hexer Grip 2.1 mm that much but what I have, it's great aswell
Magnus Madsen Nice! Have you hit with the Timo boll ALC? Please keep me updated on what you think of the AZXi and how it compares in general to other bats you played. Appreciate it!
hi, can you tell me difference between Andro Hexer Grip and BF Tenergy 80FX if you use them on fh in terms of: speed, spin, control, incoming senisitivity on serves, which one is harder sponge?
I'm really thinking of buying the Hexer Powergrip SFX for my forehand and the Hexer Grip SFX for my backhand. However I'm not completely concerned if they fit my level of skills. I'm playing at an advanced level, but nothing in the reach of brilliance :) That's the reason I would get the SFX versions as they are much softer and provide more control and feeling. What do you think ?
@@Waldemar_K How was your experience with the powergrip SFX on both sides? I'm thinking about getting the same setup 1.9mm sponge thickness on both sides too.
Emmanuel Lebensson who won the ITTF European Championships with 40 degrees soft rubbers (tibhar evolution fx-p- better controll than tenergy 05fx) on the cheap 5 plyes wood blade (slower than off about all+ off-).becouse hi can controll his bat better than his opponents with fast carbon blade and tenergy 05. But if you are lack in power forget soft rubbers...
@@realman444 I bought a Dawei clone and that was a mistake...i have hit with an innerforce and it was great...i guess I will have to break the Piggy bank and get the real deal!
@@muhammedenes5778 for me andro has more grip made fir plastic ball,fx-p sometimes slip it is older generation and not 100% accurate but not bad. I personally prefer abdro 42,5 vs tibhar 39-41. But not mushy and maybe more dangerous but little bit less less controll. Easier to play with andro
Please test Nittaku Fastarc g1 and c1!
Let us know what type of sponge hardness you prefer! What other equipment would you like us to review in the future? 🏓🔥
I have already try Powergrip(47.5) and grip(45) a half year,I feel a little soft and 47.5 for me is the best,whether spin or control
would love to see review on Soulspin blades. thanks in advance.
TableTennisDaily compare hurricane and skyline series rubbers
For the next one I'm hoping for the new > made in Japan < Victas VJ 07 Series! :-) I prefer medium rubbers. But Medium can be an Evolution EL-P, Rasanter R47 or even a light Tenergy 05
Donic Blue grip V1 and R1. And Donic Bluestrom Z1-Z3, M1 turbo rubbers
Great review as usual.
I'm an amateur and I replaced the Hexer Grip with a Grip SFX and love it.
With the Grip I often overshoot the table. The Grip will definitely be used when I gain more technique.
Thanks for the video! What sponge thickness do you use in your reviews? I would love to see a video from you, where you explain how different sponge thickness effects the performance of the rubber. Perhaps also explain what the difference between a hard blade + soft sponge and soft blade + hard sponge are. Thanks! :-)
andro Hexer Grip and Powergrip SFX rubbers are the best since they're currently being reviewed and only as long as the next rubber review.
This is why I like tabletennisdaily at the 1st place.. reviewing tabletennis's stuff
I like your Andro reviews. I'd like to see more Andro reviews!
Coming soon!:))
I'm so glad I found this video, so hard to find reviews for these rubber. The only thing I'd love to see is a more in depth comparison between the grip and the power grip, I can't decide which one I buy
if you are a mid distance looper, go for the grip. you'll have that elesticity and comfort. if you are a close range countertop/blocker go for power grip. more direct and precise. both have enough power far away.
Thank's guys, you teach me play tennis. Yours tech is perfect. You are the Best!!!
I'm playing hexer powergrip for 2½ months and I love this rubber.
How you can judge durability?
@@Zidane13893not worse than other rubbers i think but i cannot really rate this because i don't know well about rubbers and this is the first hard rubber i have ever played.
@@jakobsonderegger2777 when you rubber loose grip and wont be sharp write me back How much time you played
@@Zidane13893 okay it's still looking good
Jakob Sonderegger it is 100% natural rubber so should be really good, i’ve heard as long as you clean regularly natural rubber’s are extremely furable
I used Andro powergrip, beat rubbers and felt they are pretty good in terms of catapult. I can only imagine the catapult effect of the new rubbers in the market now a days.
I use Hexer grip on my BH, despite of 45 degrees hardness, it has a lot of control and decent amount of spin.
Please review more Chinese rubbers
Rahil Mittal that isn’t a Chinese rubber it’s a German rubber
@@ghostrazor6209 yeah I know that I'm just generally asking them to review Chinese rubbers
Chinese rubbers aren't good. European ones are. And Japanese
@@Anonymousigma-n9b well how come Chinese players use Chinese rubbers? It's that you might think of them as rubbish, but when you play with Chinese rubbers you need to use a different technique
@@jl6842 hey JI, understanding the view u are coming from. Do u know what chinese rubbers are made of... synthetic rubber and its also tacky rubber German and Japanese rubber are made from proper high grade rubber. I consider it cheating or easy play if you use chinese rubber. With chinese rubber its not about how you play its about how the rubber makes you play. Have u ever used short pimples or long pimples or even tacky rubber...
I recently switched from offensive to modern defense
Now rockin timber 5 def
Andro chaos ox
Andro hexer duro 1.8
Pretty cool
Welcome to the rare breed My friend 😂
I Run sauer tröger firestarter racket with friendshiep 738 1.0mm for chop defense away from table then hexer powergrip 1.9mm fh green to confuse the chop side 😂🤥
Are the andro caos ox good for chop away from table?
Im on about 15 hours of training/match play with Hexer grip 1.9 red on my backhand and Hexer Powergrip 2.1 forehand. My level was up the first night I used it, no bullshit...Today I beat a guy up pretty good that I haven't beat at his house in over a year. The thought process is gone now I just swing and the control is so real that I can play a little reckless and the ball lands on the table...the Tenergy rubbers either go into the net or off the table it was a constant struggle for over a year. Service returns are a breeze and that was my main weakness this stuff stops the spin it's crazy!...Every player so far is having trouble with my loops I was getting knocked around with Tenergy the Powergrip has very good spin especially with brushing loops I can pull some digs out...1800-2000 level
Hi, I wanna ask was Hexer power grip having a hard sponge?
@@hendrytjandra8544 It feels pretty close to ButterflyTO-5...Hexer PowerGrip 2.1 has more spin on my loops that TO-5 it was the very first thing that I noticed..it is a tad slower coming off the rubber but builds more spin at the end...
@@masterspin7796 Do you mind if I consult about rubber?
Another awesome review thanks guys
Could you please review the hexer powersponge rubber. I would be very happy about that. Merry Christmas to all of you.
good review, please add more segment with long/short pips rubber review please
So many years, and I still use Hexer Grip. But, for some reason, they don't want to cheapen it. 😅 Question: Are the new Andro rubbers with a hardness of 45 degrees similar to Hexer Grip? Regards! 👋
I actually play Rozena on my forehand still working on a stable topspin, but will try Hexer Grip SFX now to get more controll, let's see ;) ... great review as always, keep it up!
2 questions for u guys-
1. How does the harder rubber compare to the rasanter r50?
2. Could u guys compare 2 different brands?... like acuda p2 VS rasanter r47?
For those who don't know, here are the hardness for the rubbers:
Hexer Grip SFX 40
Hexer Powergrip SFX 42.5
Hexer Grip 45
Hexer Powergrip 47.5
Hi Dan, great review! How do you compare the Hexer rubbers to the Rasanter rubbers?
compare hexer powergrip(HPG) to r47:
HPG, give more grip feel.
R47, give more catapult. n solid feel
@@blindlan32 Don't know if you can help me, but can you compare tenergy 05 vs Rasanter 47?
my lovely rubber. power grip!!
Is it not the Treiber CI off you use? not the FI right?
Hey Dan, you say that you use the Treiber FI blade, but isn't it the Treiber CI you are holding? Also, you mention that it is a carbon setup which Treiber FI is not.
I want to get the Novacell off with the Hexer powergrip on the FH, but I don't know which one I should get on the BH. My style on the backhand is block and I love it to smash against backspin (played many hard rubbers before).
What thickness rubber were you testing?
Hey Dan, great review as usual. Are you also going to make a review on the Hexer Duro or have you ever done so? Best regards from Germany. :)
Hurricane 3 neo pls
please compare the Bluefire with the Bluestorm and the Blue Grip
Arpiar I use Z2 on carbospeed, fast and grippy, catapult is high. Heaps of spin, I wish I got the z1
I will have these on my Blade by tomorrow morning, Grip on backhand..Power Grip on forehand 1.9 and 2.1 After 1 year and 3 rubber buys of Tenergy 019 backhand (1.9) and Tenergy 05 Forehand (2.1) I will test it on wed. night for our monthly club tournament it should be a decent experiment...
Is it only the powergrip sfx and grip (normal) that is tested? I just got confused cuz in the start he talks about all four rubbers but later he says "this rubber is great at..." Without saying if it is the Hexer Grip or Powergrip he got on his backhand? Am I wrong or?
Not wrong sir
Do test the new joola rhyzer series ... Especially the rhyzer pro 50 that has a hard sponge 😊
ohh thats so expensive and thats so amazing. please do some cheap rubber but its powerful
Love your videos
Please do a review of 729 presto spin/speed.
Nice Review! For the next one I'm hoping for the new > made in Japan < Victas VJ 07 Series! :-)
Hexer is the best. I've used it on a flexible blade (gambler speed ,both fh and bh ), a super stiff one ( Sanwei f3 fro, backhand ), and all round blade ( Andro csv all+ , both sides ) and I'll say this - get used to the gears, and you'll be rewarded. Spin, control, and power, it's all there.
Hi Ahmed, do u notice the Sanwei F3 pro is similar to Viscaria or maybe the Timo Boll ALC ? incase you have tried booth or one
Anton Praja I've tried the alc and imo stick to the alc if you have it, f3 pro has too much bounce and lifting backspin with forehand is a pain, might just be my incorrect technique though. Anyway what I'm saying it's super fast and hard to control, and unless you play for hours and hour and mold your technique to fit the blade, you'll feel like it's a waste of money.
Edit: also note that it has Zero dwell time cuz it's super stiff
@@demhandzz I did play with F3 pro of my friend's. It's true, the control for short game were a pain. But it was good for smashing and looping for far distance...
Anton Praja so my set up on the f3 pro is a Hexer Duro on the backhand and a Yoo Nam hype KR on the fore,
After a bit of practice and adjustments, I think that anything to do with the backhand is perfect, be it flicks, blocks, short pushes, looping backspin and so on
Smashing on the forehand is really good, you get a nice click sound with proper contact that I really like, and again short pushes and chops are good,
The only downside is when I loop backspin from close, the ball has low spin which my opponents can easily hit for a winner, and when I get far from the table, I have to flat hit because topspinning becomes a problem,
But again that might be me and my improper technique, because I'm a taller player (6"1) and require a larger/wider stroke so my timing gets messed up and the blade is again really fast
This was just my two penny thoughts, if you think the blade works for you and you can get good control, go for it
Also I'm just a random person on the Internet, and since you don't know how I play, take my opinions with a grain of salt
Hi guys!
I wonder what is difference between PowerGrip SFX and Grip (standard, non SLX version). I know that the first is 42,5 and second one 45 of hardness. Does it mean that PowerGrip SFX is a little slower but has better control?
I want to use Grip SFX on BH and I'm not sure is better to get the PowerGrip SFX or Grip on FH.
The new Xiom (Icecream) AZXi or Timo boll ALC? Please comment below if you have any insight. Thanks!
Dude they have reviewed both blades
Magnus Madsen Right. Although I haven’t meant anyone with the AZXi yet to see if it as good as it sounds. The Timo ALC is an all around safe choice, well known and many players use it. The AZXi will be a risk to purchase blindly w/o trying because it’s so new. Just want a comparison👌🏼
I just bought the Azxi and I tell you, it's something else. Haven't got to use it more than one session but my forehand (Zlc side) with Hexer Powergrip 2.1 mm is amazing, have not got to try out my backhand (Alc side) with Hexer Grip 2.1 mm that much but what I have, it's great aswell
Magnus Madsen Nice! Have you hit with the Timo boll ALC? Please keep me updated on what you think of the AZXi and how it compares in general to other bats you played. Appreciate it!
Can you compare Andro hexer grip and Donic bluefire m2?
is the Hexer Grip Sfx and the Butterfly Timo Boll ALC wood a good combination?
My previous wood was a Donic Epox Topspeed and I wonder if this wood will fit me.
I‘m playing the hexer grip sfx on the viscaria. So it will also fit on the boll alc.
can you compare Andro Hexer Grip Sfx and Tibhar Evolution FX-P
hi, can you tell me difference between Andro Hexer Grip and BF Tenergy 80FX if you use them on fh in terms of: speed, spin, control, incoming senisitivity on serves, which one is harder sponge?
Hexer. 45°.
Tenergy 80fx 42.5°
Hexer is harder
I'm really thinking of buying the Hexer Powergrip SFX for my forehand and the Hexer Grip SFX for my backhand. However I'm not completely concerned if they fit my level of skills. I'm playing at an advanced level, but nothing in the reach of brilliance :) That's the reason I would get the SFX versions as they are much softer and provide more control and feeling. What do you think ?
Same here. But i take powergrip sfx for fh and bh.
@@Waldemar_K How was your experience with the powergrip SFX on both sides? I'm thinking about getting the same setup 1.9mm sponge thickness on both sides too.
what type of blade do you use in this review?
Did you wear Hexer grip on BH?
Fan from spain
Emmanuel Lebensson who won the ITTF European Championships with 40 degrees soft rubbers (tibhar evolution fx-p- better controll than tenergy 05fx) on the cheap 5 plyes wood blade (slower than off about all+ off-).becouse hi can controll his bat better than his opponents with fast carbon blade and tenergy 05.
But if you are lack in power forget soft rubbers...
That's amazing...it makes sense...thosee Carbon blades have no feel.
Senecart81 i think innerforce layer zlf,alc is the golden mean
@@realman444 I bought a Dawei clone and that was a mistake...i have hit with an innerforce and it was great...i guess I will have to break the Piggy bank and get the real deal!
can you compare Andro Hexer Grip Sfx and Tibhar Evolution FX-P
@@muhammedenes5778 for me andro has more grip made fir plastic ball,fx-p sometimes slip it is older generation and not 100% accurate but not bad.
I personally prefer abdro 42,5 vs tibhar 39-41. But not mushy and maybe more dangerous but little bit less less controll.
Easier to play with andro
Thanks for reviem
Please do a review on Hurricane 3
Still using it...
this is not a FI version this is CI version
Hoe about the Hexer powersponge? It's softer than the power grip sfx. How compare those rubbers with eachother?
Maybe if you put some power into your shots and dont always think that your tenergy will do all the work for you, it'll go quick.
Can you review the joola rhyzer series?
Do a donic v1 and r1 rubber review
Wondering if the they do respond for any request?
Do u mean p1 VS z1 or s1?...
butiaklein no the new blue grip rubbers (r1 and v1)
Hard tensor rubbers are the best for me like tenergy 05 or mxp
Power grip sfx can’t lift backspin ball..suitable for backhand
Tenergy 05 fk
I used to play with the Hexer super sponge. Now i play with tenergy 05
6:10 - lol
7-20 min - 7-30 min !!!
First
High spin?
DHS hurricane laugh in the back.
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You're calling the 40 degree sponge to be "very soft" yet Tenergy-05 is rated at 35-37 Degrees...
Different scale. 37 japanese scale is about 47 euro scale.