At the end of June 1941 the civilian population in what is today Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia are facing two lethal enemies. The political police of the USSR - the NKVD, and the invading German Army accompanied by the Nazi killing squads of the SS. That's simply how it is. That it will get even worse than it is during the last week of June, especially through horrors committed by one of these sides does not change that fact. Because of the importance of these events to humanity, and the difficulty we all face to not equivocate who did what, we would like to remind you the we're a chronological format, that we do not make analytical commentary that looks to what will happen, but let you discover the events as they evolve. Also we would like to point out that we have tightened our rules, read them before you comment: RULES OF CONDUCT STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban. THE PROMOTION OF EXTREME, VIOLENT IDEOLOGIES IS ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN This includes the justification, or promotion of ideologies, regimes, and systems that have historically or are inherently contrary to the principles of democracy and human rights. To be clear some of these ideologies are Naziism, Fascism, Colonialism, Imperialism, Leninism, Stalinism, Revolutionary Socialism, Integral Nationalism and any other ideology that promotes authoritarianism, and a disregard for inalienable individual rights as outlined in the UDHR. Regimes that fall under this rule are for example: Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, the British Empire, Colonial France, pre-emancipation USA, Imperial Japan, Communist China, the USSR and any similar systems and regimes. While an academic discussion of these ideologies and regimes is permitted, even desired, any value statements or comparative posts to extoll their positive sides will be deleted, and may lead to a ban. . Here’s why: It is objectively true that the authoritarian regimes we cover in our series, be they far-left or far-right, were willing to use systematic oppression, violence, and murder to create or maintain their preferred system of governance. From the perspective of human rights, democracy, and plain decency, this is clearly unacceptable. Now, that is, of course, a morally absolute statement based on 21st-century morals and ethics. Therefore, in our content, we refrain from any such judgement and just tell the story as it is. We’re concerned only with the past. We don’t take sides, and we don’t decide which side deserves more blame than the other.
No one can forget or remember what one doesn't even know. This is why the entire series starting with The Great War is so important: factual history, fine details, and context in depth. Thank you everyone ever involved.
@@archstanton6102 after Germany unified, they invaded France 1870..........unified Germany +Austrian Hungarian empire +ottoman empire =a coalition of countries that can challenge any....
Suffering is also universal. It should never be in anyway a case of "Well what about them!?" when talking of foul and evil deeds that lead to the before said suffering. Two wrongs do not make a right. This should ALL be clear as day to anyone with even a shred of morality, and decency.
@@quasimododisney8765 simple answer is context is important. This is why historians in the thesis process discuss authors' known or supposed bias based on background in order to show different points of view. It is also why in this same process you take two arguments (or more) and try to find important distinctions between the arguments to find the middle ground. First it shows a lack of history understanding to make blanket statements about WW2 and not even mention the thirty years war and say "this is definitely the worst". Much of the reason the German state was late to the game in uniting, colonialism, becoming a power was because of the suffering it suffered as Europe's battleground in the religious wars and Thirty Years war where 20% of all of Europe may have died and areas as high as 60% of population. In comparison the worst casualty by country was the USSR suffering 12% in WW2. Second yes even to this day it is politically disadvantageous to teach the truth about Socialist Communism because of split between left and right. It's easier to wear a Che Guevara t-shirt and say capitalism kills than it is to wear a Nazi uniform etc. Neither would I wish to do.
Agreed. The horrors committed during WW2 had only a miniscule effect on outcome of the war and so (while they are often mentioned in passing) they are usually not given the time for their scale to be appreciated. I can't say I'm looking forward to this series, but I'm so glad it's been made.
What Sparty says at the end really strikes home. The amount of historical revisionism, genocide denial, and apologies for tyrants I see on social media or Reddit is terrifying. I almost feel like the truth and facts are losing.
Thank you for that opening part on "atrocity comparaisons". It's depressing to see some people trying to excuse the actions committed by Nazi Germany or the USSR by attempting to draw a moral equivalencies.
And yet, by percentage, Lithuania killed more than Nazi Germany, not in numbers, but in percentage when compared to the Germans, 98% of Lithuanian jews, killed here in Lithuania, all those deaths, blamed on Germany, when done by those now considered as war heroes
Spartacus’ voice is so distinct from Indy’s yet still as engaging to me. While Indy’s is engaging and assertive, immediately catching my attention; Spartacus’ voice is calmer and more subdued but with enough aggressiveness to convey the seriousness of the topic. I wouldn’t mind even more episodes hosted by him!
The Wehrmacht: *"People of Eastern Europe, we have come to save you...!"* Civilians: *"Hooray, it's the German Reich!"* The Wehrmacht: *"FROM YOURSELVES!!!"* Civilians: *"Oh no it's the German Reich"*
With the invasion of the Soviet Union in Operation Barbarossa, the War Against Humanity series is just going to take a darker and moodier tone ahead. The true horrors are about to begin...
God bless the innocent people who were murdered. This is always the worst part of history but it must never be forgotten. History isn't written by the victor but the survivors.
Well history is first written by the victors, but the survivors eventually begin to tell their story and provide balance, perspective, and the call to accountability.
War ONLY has losers, never ever has winners. I say this with respect and no intention to disrespect anyone, but over the years with lots of traveling, I am very amazed how different that culture and attitude is in certain countries (specifically about WW2) Memorials in Europe are very different for example, than other (overseas) countries. There is not even a little sign of heroic attitude in these memorials. I guess you just have to see the pictures and videos from that time to understand why. Millions of people, including men who were forced to join the army, just wanted to live in peace and do there thing. Instead of a bunch of men with little willies that show how "great" they are (on all sides for that matter) These people didn't want their houses to be destroyed, families being killed, women being raped and other loved ones to be murdered. Once again, I don't mean this with any disrespect, but I noticed that some countries and cultures seem to shove these facts under the rug. I find it very difficult to talk about it, since it's difficult to debate about different cultures. But I guess, when knowing the facts, I can say that I just struggle with it. I am very glad to see YT channels like this popping up, to make people much more aware.
Well said Spartacus! Thank you. For setting the record straight on where the TimeGhost channel stands. Human Suffering is universal and there is absolutely nothing that justifies it. No matter what side, no matter the uniform, the language, the religion, the culture, or the cause. Suffering, terror, destruction, and death does not recognize these boundaries and is merciless to all. Every act of malice and cruelty that has been displayed throughout this war, that has heartlessly contributed to the hundreds of millions who have suffered deserves equal condemnation. In order to truly learn from the lessons of this war, we must NEVER repeat them. No matter what the cause or influence is, the outcome will always be the same. Terror, suffering, destruction, and death.
You are right: To the dead it doesn't matter which system they were killed by, whether it was under the communists, the fascists or under the democratic allies. Every death is a tremendous tragedy for those who knew that person, of it's family and friends. You might argue that some deaths did involve less suffering than others. You might argue that some systems lead to more deaths than others. You might argue that some systems killed specific groups of people with more hatred and more efficiency than other people. But every death is a tragedy. Does it really matter, whether you die in a Vernichtungslager or in a Gulag? Randomly in the forest shot by SS-Einsatztruppen or in your home in result of a bomb raid? I don't think so. Not for the dead atleast. There is a nice proverb: A child asked a soldier "War must be Hell, right?" but the soldier answered "No, war is worse than hell, for there are no innocent people in hell."
reminds me of hands down one of the best scenes from M*A*S*H Burns: Everybody knows war is hell BJ (trying to defuse the tension): Remember you heard it here last Hawkeye (deadpan): War isn't hell.... War is war and hell is hell, and of the two, war is a lot worse. Father Mulcahy (skeptical but still curious): How do you figure that. Hawkeye? Hawkeye (still deadpan): Easy Father, tell me, who goes to hell? Father Mulcahy (slightly confused): Sinners. i believe. Hawkeye (pissed): Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in hell. But war is chock full of them. Little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact except for a few of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.
Beautifully put. Which is why it is so infuriating that whenever this topic comes up, one certain group always chimes in with "actually, OUR pain and suffering was of a unique nature that no other group has ever experienced or could possibly understand"
@@TotalState If only people could apply the same logic to the countless other historical and current oppressions seen around the world. No matter how devisive the topic may be, I find slavery one of the largest arena's for this victim narrative, yet today slavery is a larger business than it has ever been historically. For example in Libya one can buy a girl for between $6 and $25 depending on her age. As Spartacus so elequently describes, people should remember those who have suffered and fight for the rights, without preference, of all those who suffer today.
It doesn’t matter to the dead but it matters to the living because people need to know why these people were murdered and by whom. The perpetrators should be known so they can face justice either in legal or in historical form or in both and for people to know who these murderers were. And although again it doesn’t matter to the dead, the dead of a bombing raid for example are a different issue than the dead of a concentration camp or a gulag! People need to know these distinctions and differences because the reasoning behind each killing is totally different.
@@richardjchapman2261 No, if you're looking at relative comparisons, discovering a morality based on overall damages, or occasionally attempting to argue by reductio ad absurdam, 'whataboutism' may make for a strong argument. In fact, in a clean debate, 'whataboutism' would never work well to deflect or evade an issue since the technique requires discussing the issue in the first place.
Whenever we think it can't possibly become darker or crueler...mankind is there to push the boundaries even further. In ways, no sane man could possibly imagine
Maybe in scale, but humanity has always been cruel to each other. Often in completely cold, rational, ways because human beings can rationalize anything. There are entire civilizations that have been erased from human memory because they were ruthlessly annihilated by another tribe or king etc. all the way back to the other proto-hominid species of our pre-history.
@@tyberfen5009 We've made lot of progress. We now consider this a bad/wrong thing, where as before it was considered a norm and accepted thing to do to "the other".
Ballsy, brave, and totally appropriate approach to the inhumanity of conflict and genocide wherever it occurs. Tip of the Hat Spartacus! - Confident and competent dialogue about context and comparison.
Thank you for continuing to provide this history even as it becomes increasingly unpopular or financially "unwise." Historians must seek to find and share Truth.
@@pyry1948 You and I may see it that way, but when Google believes atrocities are not presented in the "correct way", the videos get demonitized. Historians also have bills to pay.
You can see the anger, no, rage in Spartacus' eyes when he started talking about how people started to compare two evil. And he's completely right to be angry!
@@sergeantmajorgross4461 you're profile name is a collaborationist state that aided and abetted Japanese atrocities so we shouldn't really take anything you say seriously
Totally Not Alpharius Manchukuo wasn’t collaborationist, that would be a military division such as Wang Jingweis army or auxiliary police such as the Ukrainian / Byelorussian Auxiliary Police. And also Manchukuo and Mengjiang under Japanese rule were doing MUCH better then the divided and dirt poor Chinese warlord states.
I was again and again postponing to watch this. I always have to prepare myself for War against humanity episodes, but I really feel necessary to watch them. It's strange to say thank you for this, but thank you, Spartacus for delivering another very well put together episode and reminding me about the absolute moral lows of humanity. We have to remember this so hopefully we get horrified enough to not commit them again (however I'm well aware that they have been commited in different corners of the Earth until this day).
I found my Dad's family in Lithuania, as we had no contact since 1937 after the Soviets took over. While there, I heard some stories of the suffering in Lithuania done by the Soviets and Germans. One out of 6 of the entire population of Lithuanians died or were sent labor camps in the Soviet Union. One man was a border guard who did nothing wrong. He and all of his family were sent to Siberia. One of my aunts saw the Jews of their town rounded up and marched out. She milked their neighbor's cow and took the milk to Kaunas because the Jewish owners had small children. The Germans murdered 500,000 people outside of Kaunas. The German guard told here to go home and keep the milk, and said they wouldn't need the cow. The Germans stored supplies in one uncle's yard and some of the supplies were stolen. The Germans arrested him, tortured him and then shot him. This happened, on a small scale, but to real people I met there. Never forget.
I visited few weeks ago on Museum of Freedom and Occupation on Tallinn and one of the stories was about the student which were deported to Siberia just because him family name was wrong. And he died in Siberia after suffering hunger long time and then when he got a some bread he eated too much on once and died because that.
With the beginning of Barbarossa, the curve on the War Against Humanity goes hyperbolic... Tim Snyder's "Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin" was a very good read on the apocalypse in Eastern Europe during the 1930s and WWII.
This is such an excellent channel, I am very pleased I have found it. An excellent post too Spartacus, you deal with deeply troubling, disturbing and upsetting matters with pathos and sincerity.
@@vidaskalesas Not really. As it was traded back and forth starting from the Russian revolution* between the Reds and Whites and then the Reds and Nazis, each pass took out their toll of _insert whatever "enemy of the people" here_ they didn't like. To the point of where I'm surprised they even had viable populations by this time (1941). * - The Between Two Wars series does an excellent coverage of the Baltics during this period.
One of the greatest tragedies in the Second WW2, is that for the people of Central and Eastern Europe, the only choice ended up being aligning willingly or not with either Germany or the Soviets. From Romania through Poland and the Baltic countries to Finland, their choice was largely forced and I personally elect to see them at least partially as victims of circumstance. That is not to deny that even these countries committed their share of atrocities, but at the end, they all ended up, save for Finland, occupied. The only one not to cooperate with either side was Poland, and at the end they suffered under both, more so that anyone else. I personally have to say, that one of the best phrases I have heard to describe the situation was "Death or Dishonour". (Coming from a HOI4 DLC name.)
As a Lithuanian all I can say that WW2 cut us to the very marrow. The following 50 years of brutal soviet occupation prevented that wound form healing. They killed and exiled our best, our brightest. We haven't recovered still. The damage done to our genetics and mentality is... immense.
@@Кристина_Шульц Explain why you think it is a joke? You think that the soviet occupation was wonderful for Baltic states? You think that any occupation is fun for people who get occupied? No it is not a joke, it was equal and more brutal towards Lithunians, Latvians and Estonians as Nazi occupation.
@@contrastusdevasted1687 The population of Lithuania under nazism (1940-1945) decreased from 3.12m to 2.57m. Under communism (1950-1992) increased from 2.57m to 3.7m . Under capitalism (1993-2020) decreased from 3.7m to 2.79m. In fact, only under the USSR did the Lithuanians grow population, so why do you call these times occupation? Did you enjoy dying under the Germans or now under the Americans?
I love your very level headed look at history. You dont take sides, you dont sugar coat things, you reveal the good and the bad, especially the bad. Its all its gruesomeness. Making sure to highlight how its wrong regardless of who won. I am going to join you guys, as in this day and age we need level headed minds sharing knowledge with the world.
Kazys Škirpa is a very interesting and very controversial category in Lithuanian history, especially today. If there was a national hero checklist he would have checked all the marks, and yet he is seen as an embarrassment. On January 1st 1919 he raised the national flag in VIlnius Gediminas tower, a gesture celebrated to this day. Later as a colonel he became the chief of staff of Lithuanian army and opposed the coup in 1926 which ended the young democracy brought about a dictatorship. Kicked out of the army he joined diplomatic service worked on reconciliation with Poland and by the beginning of the war ended up in post in Berlin, where he worked towards Lithuania's Independence. But that's were he also in his writings asked for German assistance in kicking the bolshevik - jews on and Lithuania without Jews. How much of this were his conviction and how much was just a way of pleasing Nazis we will not know. But today while his Jan 1st gesture is celebrated he himself is never mentioned in official memory.
That's kind of sad. He just seems like a convicted Lithuanian nationalist and a pragmatist to me that was also between a rock and a hard place during the war.
@@G-Mastah-Fash Another interesting thing regarding Škirpa, was that he was a member of the Lithuanian Popular Socialist Democratic Party, which later merged into The Lithuanian Popular Peasants' Union, one of the main left-wing parties of interwar Lithuania. In the 1926 coup he was defending a democratically elected left-wing coalition government, which often cooperated with national minority representatives. So it's not even that accurate to describe him as a nationalist politically. This stuff is pretty complicated.
Imagine being a 19th century time traveler who can only take ten year hops into the future. The first trip into the 20 th century shows that thing are getting better for all mostly. The next jump is during the Great War years. Things get worse with each jump.
You might want to read up on how that quote actually turned out in the end instead of just quoting a trailer. Because you're pretty much missing the entire meaning of it.
It is rare where I like all the presenters of a specific channel. Good job on your series and cant wait for the next one. It really sends the message and really touches a nerve.
My grandmother's best friends' father was a sergeant in the polish army, she was deported to Iran by the KGB. She also was related to royal blood, great content amazing to see such in depth while my grandparents lived through this.
My grandmother after the battle of Crete hid an fed two soldiers from New Zealand . My grandmother MARIA was a Holly woman 22 years old and already a mother. If the Germans found to hid allies soldiers executed you After the war Australians and New Zealanders send packs of food to Crete they didn't forget how to treat them the local population We had the right to fight against the Germans
Or that it happens repeatedly throughout history? The President of Kosovo was just charged with War Crimes. Turkey loves killing groups, Iraq did the same, China has reform camps that are most likely no different than the concentration camps. Besides what Stalin and Mao did.
That insight regarding the whataboutisms surrounding war crimes was just a whole load of YES. I've been trying to voice my thoughts, but you said it better than I ever could
My great grandma’s brother was captured by Germans in 1941 in Kaunas, Lithuania. They were encircled for 7 days and eventually he got captured… In 1943 he died in Concentration camp in Poland…
Even by just the "echoes of the past" - The pictures, the testimonies, the footage, and so forth.... Such terrifying levels of horror, sorrow, and suffering. Just a taste of it all is enough to make me shed tears, and feel overwhelming sorrow; For the people, the victims of it all. These episodes are hard to watch, due to the sheer magnitude of it all, but the lessons of those times I feel are more than ever vital to remember today. Where hate seems to be again gaining in power; Slowly creeping in to sink its talons into untold numbers of lives yet again. Thank you for the continued effort to all of you, for doing your part in trying to educate people, halt the spread of hate, and actively making an effort to debunk the continuously spreading harmful conspiracy theory rhetoric. -With respect, from Finland
Sorry to post something a little off topic, but I’ve seen more and more ads included with historical videos like this one (some of them you can’t even skip them) which I think it’s a good development if it means that TH-cam came to its senses. I want people who work hard to produce quality videos to make money to be able to pay their bills and to even profit because they deserve it. I’m a history buff and these guys have delivered in my book; they have come up with an innovative way to teach history and I can’t thank them enough.
Great video, as always. However, as a Greek and a Cretan, I would like to make an important correction here. During the Ottoman occupation of the island, Cretans revolted under the Greek flag demanding not independence, but unification with Greece! Cretans, similarly to Cypriots, even though enslaved, participated en mass in all the national struggles of the Greeks. Indeed Crete won its partial independence in 1898, but the Cretans continued to demand unification with Greece, which eventually became a reality in 1913. The most important Greek statesman of the 20th century, was no other than the Cretan Eleftherios Venizelos, while the current prime minister of Greece is another Cretan, Kyriakos Mitsotakis.
@@WorldWarTwo the exact words of Spartacus after 5:01 are "There is a tradition of a Cretan independent identity that goes further back than the modern concept of nationality. During the Ottoman reign they wage guerrilla warfare to gain independence pretty much separately from mainland Greece ". The first sentence is correct. The second is somewhat confusing and also not entirely correct, as the Cretan participated in the main revolutions of the Greeks before Greece gained its independence from the Ottoman Empire. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_War_of_Independence#Crete
And we MUST add that Cretans are Greek too,they don't belong to a separate nation. Actually the Greek nation is not a 19th century creation, it continues to exist through the ages...
Very well put. As a Greek myself, I thought that this important misconception should be corrected. Cretans have always been loyal Greek patriots who have fought for Greek independence as part of a united Greek nation. This can also be said of our Greek brothers in Cyprus who fought for union (ΕΝΩΣΙΣ) with Greece, not independence.
*If anyone wants a good laugh, at the very start of this video, as soon as you hit play, double tap on the left side of the screen to rewind the video over & over and hear a dope ass remix of Spartacus sounding like a beat boxing DJ saying "Three, Tree, Three" 😂*
Thank you Spartacus for presenting such horrors in a respectful and intelligent manner. It's easy to get distracted by military equipment and operations. It is essential to understand how so many innocent people were targeted and slaughtered by the Nazis in that war.
Hallo Gianni, great times are coming - especially for your rating system - but more points will be necessary, believe me - I bought A LOT MORE TIES , AND GREAT ONES :))))))
@@astriddeinhard433 Oh Astrid you tease... I've just started a new job that has more standard office hours so I do hope I'll be able to continue applying my grades instantly. But don't worry, they'll still be there--just maybe a little slower sometimes. Looking forward to your latest additions!
@@gianniverschueren870 Hi Gianni - I am so happy for you having a new and hopefully wonderful job - all the best for this new challenge - let that be the most important thing, I am happy when you find the time to still watch our content and no matter what I will always think of you when I hand Indy his tie
When you get back to Yugoslavia, which might happen soon because of Operation Barbarossa, you should mention the Pančevo massacre since it's well documented with even footage of the executions.
1. A summery version of your opening about neutrality should be at the header of all these videos. 2. Elegant and invisible transition from opening to content at 4:51. Beautiful writing Spartacus & Joram.
This series needs to be watched by everyone in the US right now. They seem to have a blindspot concerning atrocity, racism and history repeating itself.
@@WorldWarTwo My pleasure , it was indeed a war against humanity. Your narrative goes in the same direction as Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands , a highly recommendable book , if I may.
A shining light amidst the Darkness: Chiune Sugihara, the Japanese consul in the Lithuania, who hand wrote 6000+ visas (he would not let anyone else take responsibility) for Jewish people who wanted to escape in 1940/41 from Poland/Lithuania thru USSR into Japanese territory. The year 2020 is "The Year of Chiune Sugihara" in Lithuania.
tommy14 🤔 Indeed. Consul Sugihara is one of the most humane people of those times. Have you heard of the Portuguese Consul in France, Aristides de Souza Mendes? He, too, issued visas to people pleading for his help. Two most admirable men in times of gross abominations across Europe.
Right? But in my mind I appreciate that because it makes me think they are working hard on helping people understand the how devastating and horrifying WW2 was.
these type of videos ARE important and needed to tell the history and if we do not know our history we will repeat it , since its clear schools now now found to be wanting in teaching anything properly about history or just out right ignoring things or putting so much bias in them . i am glad you people do these videos! so important
@@WorldWarTwo aye lad :D tis why i love this channel and your others, important to learn about ww1, 2 and everything! yous make it fun funny and interesting and take it seriously
Thank you for the discussion at the beginning of the video. Contrasting the different situations and murderous rampages which make up genocide is a way to note the different forms and issues that can lead to genocide I think is a way of understanding and can be empathic. Comparison, on the other hand can, and in my experience usually does, delves into a point scale, where this genocide is worse because "x" so therefore "x people" suffered more. While these comments can be understandable from people who have little understanding of the topic of genocide, it should be immediately be made clear that those kinds of statements are inappropriate and are very insulting to people who have suffered. So thank you for stating that, while it can be difficult to delve into the issues of why this part of the discussion needs to be said your last statement is very prescient "how insulting to the victims as it somehow indicates that they were less unfortunate than others". Think about how insulting and brutally cruel that would be to say to someone who lost their child in Rwanda in 1990, or their brother in Bosnia in 1992, to have been raped by a German soldier in France in 1941 in exchange for your life, etc. All of these are cruel and inhumane, all of them are individual acts in atrocities to make a scale of well "x is worse than y" is categorically inappropriate and should be called out. Thanks
Your opening statement was well said and sympathetic to all atrocities committed by man since the beginning of time. While inhuman acts still exist today; nothing in recent time can compare to the organized and systematic extermination of humanity in such fairly recent times. One would think that we would have evolved by now out of this type of destruction. And yet; these events happened less than 70 years ago. In another episode you mention that almost nobody under the age of 30 has a clear understanding of the holocaust... if any information on the subject at all. Your channel is named World War Two... Not Wars of The Ages. I for one appreciate your videos on all things WW2. The History Channel has turned into a History Joke and some of us must go elsewhere for historical facts outside of the reality tv show machine. Your show is informative, has stellar production quality and answers in details the questions anyone would ever have on its subjects. Keep up the amazing work!!!
It is so hard to imagine that humans beings can commit such atrocities less than 100 years ago. Somehow this part of history tends to be forgotten in many history book. Sadly we come to learn such details on a great balanced documentary like this. Thanks to all the people involved at the World War Two series for researching and showing it to us.
At the end of June 1941 the civilian population in what is today Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia are facing two lethal enemies. The political police of the USSR - the NKVD, and the invading German Army accompanied by the Nazi killing squads of the SS. That's simply how it is. That it will get even worse than it is during the last week of June, especially through horrors committed by one of these sides does not change that fact. Because of the importance of these events to humanity, and the difficulty we all face to not equivocate who did what, we would like to remind you the we're a chronological format, that we do not make analytical commentary that looks to what will happen, but let you discover the events as they evolve. Also we would like to point out that we have tightened our rules, read them before you comment:
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you have 9 views and 37 likes that makes no sence
What is the UDHR?
@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 universal declaration of human rights
You can try to add big floating subtitles when you misspoke.
@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 i don't know
No one can forget or remember what one doesn't even know. This is why the entire series starting with The Great War is so important: factual history, fine details, and context in depth. Thank you everyone ever involved.
The Great War led to all the big problems in the last century and continues to plague us.
Thank you!
@@657449 many of the causes of WW1 can be traced back to The Seven Years War. Which some view as a 1st world war
@@archstanton6102 after Germany unified, they invaded France 1870..........unified Germany +Austrian Hungarian empire +ottoman empire =a coalition of countries that can challenge any....
*We must learn from our History, whether it's good, bad or ugly & most of the times very bloody, lest we want to repeat it.*
I have a small saying that relates to your opening remark:
"Suffering isn't a pissing contest"
Suffering is also universal. It should never be in anyway a case of "Well what about them!?" when talking of foul and evil deeds that lead to the before said suffering. Two wrongs do not make a right. This should ALL be clear as day to anyone with even a shred of morality, and decency.
People will try to make it into one if they are using guilt as a political weapon.
Plus evidence suggests it's not as bad as the Thirty Years War in relative terms (I'm sure there are other contenders out there also).
@@masoodvoon8999 So - it IS a pissing contest, then?
@@quasimododisney8765 simple answer is context is important. This is why historians in the thesis process discuss authors' known or supposed bias based on background in order to show different points of view. It is also why in this same process you take two arguments (or more) and try to find important distinctions between the arguments to find the middle ground. First it shows a lack of history understanding to make blanket statements about WW2 and not even mention the thirty years war and say "this is definitely the worst". Much of the reason the German state was late to the game in uniting, colonialism, becoming a power was because of the suffering it suffered as Europe's battleground in the religious wars and Thirty Years war where 20% of all of Europe may have died and areas as high as 60% of population. In comparison the worst casualty by country was the USSR suffering 12% in WW2. Second yes even to this day it is politically disadvantageous to teach the truth about Socialist Communism because of split between left and right. It's easier to wear a Che Guevara t-shirt and say capitalism kills than it is to wear a Nazi uniform etc. Neither would I wish to do.
The war against humanity is very sad to watch but necissary
It is a requirement before throwing any WW2 related argument online.
If everyone watched this, there wouldn't be any more of these in the future
Agreed. The horrors committed during WW2 had only a miniscule effect on outcome of the war and so (while they are often mentioned in passing) they are usually not given the time for their scale to be appreciated. I can't say I'm looking forward to this series, but I'm so glad it's been made.
I dread every post that Sparty makes in this subseries, and I watch every one of them.
I take no joy nor interest watching these, only sorrow for humanity's sins.
What Sparty says at the end really strikes home. The amount of historical revisionism, genocide denial, and apologies for tyrants I see on social media or Reddit is terrifying. I almost feel like the truth and facts are losing.
@Azoth Ace jfc it's like you intentionally missed the point. Get bent.
@Azoth Ace your comment is what we're talking about
demokkkrats have done a... well in their eyes atleast "pretty good job" of seeing to that
@@ShiningTrapezoid stay broke
Thank you for that opening part on "atrocity comparaisons". It's depressing to see some people trying to excuse the actions committed by Nazi Germany or the USSR by attempting to draw a moral equivalencies.
And yet, by percentage, Lithuania killed more than Nazi Germany, not in numbers, but in percentage when compared to the Germans, 98% of Lithuanian jews, killed here in Lithuania, all those deaths, blamed on Germany, when done by those now considered as war heroes
These atrocity comparisons are only going going to increase once the Allies begin firebombing the Axis' cities.
Spartacus’ voice is so distinct from Indy’s yet still as engaging to me. While Indy’s is engaging and assertive, immediately catching my attention; Spartacus’ voice is calmer and more subdued but with enough aggressiveness to convey the seriousness of the topic. I wouldn’t mind even more episodes hosted by him!
He does have a certain visceral emotion in his tone. I like it!
Name a more iconic duo
He has great cadence as well
The Wehrmacht: *"People of Eastern Europe, we have come to save you...!"*
Civilians: *"Hooray, it's the German Reich!"*
The Wehrmacht: *"FROM YOURSELVES!!!"*
Civilians: *"Oh no it's the German Reich"*
We have nice gulag hotel set up for you in Siberia, very good nature.
@UCpj3v2Zk57EQqYvR53bjRtQ they suffered under Nazi and Soviet rule.
@@saulgoodmansentme1992 really? I thought they were happy to be deported to Siberia and to be food for taiga bears.
Where did my comment go? Damn
@@КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д It probably got deleted.
Spartacus is an amazing narrator. His voice sends chill down my spine.
That last bit hit home
And in a second language too
He has the hardest job of all
Excellent presentation for such a difficult subject. Really hits the nerve.
Quite agree. These folks tend to nail it everytime. Such a well thought out intro.
Nazi reality = Nazi utopia. That's what frightens me.
With the invasion of the Soviet Union in Operation Barbarossa, the War Against Humanity series is just going to take a darker and moodier tone ahead. The true horrors are about to begin...
I hear horror and think ill be scared. History doesn't scare me, it informs me.
There will be so many episodes that we won't be able to catch up considering how much genocide there will be.
@Napoleon Bonaparte nice, you're correct
It was pretty dark already, but yes it's about to get even worse
God bless the innocent people who were murdered. This is always the worst part of history but it must never be forgotten. History isn't written by the victor but the survivors.
Well history is first written by the victors, but the survivors eventually begin to tell their story and provide balance, perspective, and the call to accountability.
@@georgedoolittle7574 Wow #Triggered
War ONLY has losers, never ever has winners.
I say this with respect and no intention to disrespect anyone, but over the years with lots of traveling, I am very amazed how different that culture and attitude is in certain countries (specifically about WW2)
Memorials in Europe are very different for example, than other (overseas) countries.
There is not even a little sign of heroic attitude in these memorials.
I guess you just have to see the pictures and videos from that time to understand why.
Millions of people, including men who were forced to join the army, just wanted to live in peace and do there thing.
Instead of a bunch of men with little willies that show how "great" they are (on all sides for that matter)
These people didn't want their houses to be destroyed, families being killed, women being raped and other loved ones to be murdered.
Once again, I don't mean this with any disrespect, but I noticed that some countries and cultures seem to shove these facts under the rug.
I find it very difficult to talk about it, since it's difficult to debate about different cultures.
But I guess, when knowing the facts, I can say that I just struggle with it.
I am very glad to see YT channels like this popping up, to make people much more aware.
Well said Spartacus! Thank you. For setting the record straight on where the TimeGhost channel stands. Human Suffering is universal and there is absolutely nothing that justifies it. No matter what side, no matter the uniform, the language, the religion, the culture, or the cause. Suffering, terror, destruction, and death does not recognize these boundaries and is merciless to all. Every act of malice and cruelty that has been displayed throughout this war, that has heartlessly contributed to the hundreds of millions who have suffered deserves equal condemnation. In order to truly learn from the lessons of this war, we must NEVER repeat them. No matter what the cause or influence is, the outcome will always be the same. Terror, suffering, destruction, and death.
You are right: To the dead it doesn't matter which system they were killed by, whether it was under the communists, the fascists or under the democratic allies.
Every death is a tremendous tragedy for those who knew that person, of it's family and friends.
You might argue that some deaths did involve less suffering than others.
You might argue that some systems lead to more deaths than others.
You might argue that some systems killed specific groups of people with more hatred and more efficiency than other people.
But every death is a tragedy.
Does it really matter, whether you die in a Vernichtungslager or in a Gulag? Randomly in the forest shot by SS-Einsatztruppen or in your home in result of a bomb raid?
I don't think so. Not for the dead atleast.
There is a nice proverb: A child asked a soldier "War must be Hell, right?" but the soldier answered "No, war is worse than hell, for there are no innocent people in hell."
reminds me of hands down one of the best scenes from M*A*S*H
Burns: Everybody knows war is hell
BJ (trying to defuse the tension): Remember you heard it here last
Hawkeye (deadpan): War isn't hell.... War is war and hell is hell, and of the two, war is a lot worse.
Father Mulcahy (skeptical but still curious): How do you figure that. Hawkeye?
Hawkeye (still deadpan): Easy Father, tell me, who goes to hell?
Father Mulcahy (slightly confused): Sinners. i believe.
Hawkeye (pissed): Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in hell. But war is chock full of them. Little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact except for a few of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.
Beautifully put. Which is why it is so infuriating that whenever this topic comes up, one certain group always chimes in with "actually, OUR pain and suffering was of a unique nature that no other group has ever experienced or could possibly understand"
Stalin said it best “One death is a tragedy a Thousand is a Statistic!”
@@TotalState
If only people could apply the same logic to the countless other historical and current oppressions seen around the world.
No matter how devisive the topic may be, I find slavery one of the largest arena's for this victim narrative, yet today slavery is a larger business than it has ever been historically.
For example in Libya one can buy a girl for between $6 and $25 depending on her age.
As Spartacus so elequently describes, people should remember those who have suffered and fight for the rights, without preference, of all those who suffer today.
It doesn’t matter to the dead but it matters to the living because people need to know why these people were murdered and by whom. The perpetrators should be known so they can face justice either in legal or in historical form or in both and for people to know who these murderers were. And although again it doesn’t matter to the dead, the dead of a bombing raid for example are a different issue than the dead of a concentration camp or a gulag! People need to know these distinctions and differences because the reasoning behind each killing is totally different.
I cried about the Grandmother being so heartbroken, being killed and her husband joining her.
Spartacus has to be the perfect person to do this series, his face conveys impartiality while his eyes burn with anger.
That intro is so powerful! "Whataboutism" in these cases is the worst. Thanks for mentioning it.
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
@@konstantinriumin2657 he's right. It is a system we can't afford to lose.
@@astrobullivant5908 Only when you want to deflect or evade an issue .
@@astrobullivant5908 Nope. Whatabautism has the sole purpose of shifting attention from one subject to another. It doesn't add nothing to the debate.
@@richardjchapman2261 No, if you're looking at relative comparisons, discovering a morality based on overall damages, or occasionally attempting to argue by reductio ad absurdam, 'whataboutism' may make for a strong argument. In fact, in a clean debate, 'whataboutism' would never work well to deflect or evade an issue since the technique requires discussing the issue in the first place.
Whenever we think it can't possibly become darker or crueler...mankind is there to push the boundaries even further. In ways, no sane man could possibly imagine
Maybe in scale, but humanity has always been cruel to each other. Often in completely cold, rational, ways because human beings can rationalize anything. There are entire civilizations that have been erased from human memory because they were ruthlessly annihilated by another tribe or king etc. all the way back to the other proto-hominid species of our pre-history.
@@jamestheotherone742 Indeed, but leads us to another grim conclusion. That mankind hasn't made any progress since the stone age.
@@tyberfen5009 We've made lot of progress. We now consider this a bad/wrong thing, where as before it was considered a norm and accepted thing to do to "the other".
Ballsy, brave, and totally appropriate approach to the inhumanity of conflict and genocide wherever it occurs.
Tip of the Hat Spartacus! - Confident and competent dialogue about context and comparison.
Thank you for continuing to provide this history even as it becomes increasingly unpopular or financially "unwise." Historians must seek to find and share Truth.
Well said. Seconded.
What? WW2 atrocities are extremely popular, one of the most popular history subjects.
@@pyry1948 You and I may see it that way, but when Google believes atrocities are not presented in the "correct way", the videos get demonitized. Historians also have bills to pay.
@@amerigo88 But what advertisements would any reasonable business put next to this video?
Finnair?
You can see the anger, no, rage in Spartacus' eyes when he started talking about how people started to compare two evil. And he's completely right to be angry!
I’ve been getting into a lot of “Whatabout” arguments with friends over things like this lately. I know exactly where that fire comes from.
Communists and Fascists are the same in this respect, when you try to mention any crime or genocide it's always "but what about the other side!!!!!,"
@@sergeantmajorgross4461 you're profile name is a collaborationist state that aided and abetted Japanese atrocities so we shouldn't really take anything you say seriously
Totally Not Alpharius Manchukuo wasn’t collaborationist, that would be a military division such as Wang Jingweis army or auxiliary police such as the Ukrainian / Byelorussian Auxiliary Police. And also Manchukuo and Mengjiang under Japanese rule were doing MUCH better then the divided and dirt poor Chinese warlord states.
I was again and again postponing to watch this. I always have to prepare myself for War against humanity episodes, but I really feel necessary to watch them. It's strange to say thank you for this, but thank you, Spartacus for delivering another very well put together episode and reminding me about the absolute moral lows of humanity. We have to remember this so hopefully we get horrified enough to not commit them again (however I'm well aware that they have been commited in different corners of the Earth until this day).
I found my Dad's family in Lithuania, as we had no contact since 1937 after the Soviets took over. While there, I heard some stories of the suffering in Lithuania done by the Soviets and Germans. One out of 6 of the entire population of Lithuanians died or were sent labor camps in the Soviet Union. One man was a border guard who did nothing wrong. He and all of his family were sent to Siberia. One of my aunts saw the Jews of their town rounded up and marched out. She milked their neighbor's cow and took the milk to Kaunas because the Jewish owners had small children. The Germans murdered 500,000 people outside of Kaunas. The German guard told here to go home and keep the milk, and said they wouldn't need the cow. The Germans stored supplies in one uncle's yard and some of the supplies were stolen. The Germans arrested him, tortured him and then shot him. This happened, on a small scale, but to real people I met there. Never forget.
That was what WW2 was like, I believe.
Things happening on a small scale like that---on a very, very, very large scale.
I saw an abandoned Gulag camp in the Ural forest. I saw several signatures in the Baltic languages on the ruined by age walls of old barracks.
500k? where that number come from? lithuania only had 200k jews.
@@BitWise501 Jews wasnt only person which Nazis killed.
I visited few weeks ago on Museum of Freedom and Occupation on Tallinn and one of the stories was about the student which were deported to Siberia just because him family name was wrong. And he died in Siberia after suffering hunger long time and then when he got a some bread he eated too much on once and died because that.
With the beginning of Barbarossa, the curve on the War Against Humanity goes hyperbolic... Tim Snyder's "Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin" was a very good read on the apocalypse in Eastern Europe during the 1930s and WWII.
There is no way to be hyperbolic enough to register the inhumanity of the atrocities committed during this time period.
@Lord Moilanen And Genghis Khan and Tamerlane
@Lord Moilanen oh ye lord of edge , where hath thy tendies gone?
This is such an excellent channel, I am very pleased I have found it. An excellent post too Spartacus, you deal with deeply troubling, disturbing and upsetting matters with pathos and sincerity.
Thank you
Thank you for covering this sad and awful event in my country's history.
Lithuanians: Have you come to liberate us?
Germans: Yes....but no.
More like, under new management
@@bigburd875 true that, but it was better 'management' for some simple baltic civilians than communist rule
@@vidaskalesas If by "management" you mean deporting and exterminating undesirables (just like under the Soviet rule), you're right
"Now comes the time where I liberate you, the little people, of your miserable lives."-The Joker, Batman
@@vidaskalesas Not really. As it was traded back and forth starting from the Russian revolution* between the Reds and Whites and then the Reds and Nazis, each pass took out their toll of _insert whatever "enemy of the people" here_ they didn't like. To the point of where I'm surprised they even had viable populations by this time (1941).
* - The Between Two Wars series does an excellent coverage of the Baltics during this period.
Lithuanians: "You have freed us!"
Germans: "Oh, I wouldn't say freed, more like under new management."
Indeed.
Freed them? When the Soviets captured Vilinus in 1944, the civilian population was giving the Soviet soldiers kisses and flowers...
@@YorkerEli You might want to check your sources again
@@herotxgaming2572 There is literally a video on it.
@@YorkerEli which can be propaganda
We will remember them.
One of the greatest tragedies in the Second WW2, is that for the people of Central and Eastern Europe, the only choice ended up being aligning willingly or not with either Germany or the Soviets. From Romania through Poland and the Baltic countries to Finland, their choice was largely forced and I personally elect to see them at least partially as victims of circumstance. That is not to deny that even these countries committed their share of atrocities, but at the end, they all ended up, save for Finland, occupied. The only one not to cooperate with either side was Poland, and at the end they suffered under both, more so that anyone else. I personally have to say, that one of the best phrases I have heard to describe the situation was "Death or Dishonour". (Coming from a HOI4 DLC name.)
It is important to remember the human cost and that they were people not just numbers in a history book.
Hi again, interesting channel!
As a Lithuanian all I can say that WW2 cut us to the very marrow. The following 50 years of brutal soviet occupation prevented that wound form healing. They killed and exiled our best, our brightest. We haven't recovered still. The damage done to our genetics and mentality is... immense.
You guys got treated like us.
@@SaunKrystian Us who?
>50 years of brutal soviet occupation
This is a joke?
@@Кристина_Шульц Explain why you think it is a joke? You think that the soviet occupation was wonderful for Baltic states? You think that any occupation is fun for people who get occupied? No it is not a joke, it was equal and more brutal towards Lithunians, Latvians and Estonians as Nazi occupation.
@@contrastusdevasted1687 The population of Lithuania under nazism (1940-1945) decreased from 3.12m to 2.57m.
Under communism (1950-1992) increased from 2.57m to 3.7m
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Under capitalism (1993-2020) decreased from 3.7m
to 2.79m.
In fact, only under the USSR did the Lithuanians grow population, so why do you call these times occupation? Did you enjoy dying under the Germans or now under the Americans?
I love your very level headed look at history. You dont take sides, you dont sugar coat things, you reveal the good and the bad, especially the bad. Its all its gruesomeness. Making sure to highlight how its wrong regardless of who won. I am going to join you guys, as in this day and age we need level headed minds sharing knowledge with the world.
I actually live in former ghetto territory in Kaunas, Lithuania. There were also mass killings in 9th Fort in Kaunas viccinity.
Were these people ever welcome back in Lithuania?
Public Administration Germans?
Kazys Škirpa is a very interesting and very controversial category in Lithuanian history, especially today. If there was a national hero checklist he would have checked all the marks, and yet he is seen as an embarrassment. On January 1st 1919 he raised the national flag in VIlnius Gediminas tower, a gesture celebrated to this day. Later as a colonel he became the chief of staff of Lithuanian army and opposed the coup in 1926 which ended the young democracy brought about a dictatorship. Kicked out of the army he joined diplomatic service worked on reconciliation with Poland and by the beginning of the war ended up in post in Berlin, where he worked towards Lithuania's Independence. But that's were he also in his writings asked for German assistance in kicking the bolshevik - jews on and Lithuania without Jews. How much of this were his conviction and how much was just a way of pleasing Nazis we will not know. But today while his Jan 1st gesture is celebrated he himself is never mentioned in official memory.
That's kind of sad. He just seems like a convicted Lithuanian nationalist and a pragmatist to me that was also between a rock and a hard place during the war.
@@G-Mastah-Fash Another interesting thing regarding Škirpa, was that he was a member of the Lithuanian Popular Socialist Democratic Party, which later merged into The Lithuanian Popular Peasants' Union, one of the main left-wing parties of interwar Lithuania. In the 1926 coup he was defending a democratically elected left-wing coalition government, which often cooperated with national minority representatives. So it's not even that accurate to describe him as a nationalist politically. This stuff is pretty complicated.
Škirpa was an opportunist.
Skirpa was Abwer puppet and nazi collaborator
I can't credit Time Ghost enough for the quality of their content and Academic approach to history. Keep up the good work!
Imagine being a 19th century time traveler who can only take ten year hops into the future. The first trip into the 20 th century shows that thing are getting better for all mostly. The next jump is during the Great War years. Things get worse with each jump.
Industrialization! Technology has had a huge impact on military science.
I cannot see how this channel can become better. This content is of the highest quality possible on a platform like TH-cam...
I love that you and Indy end every episode, where crimes against humanity were mentioned like holocaust and Kristallnacht with NEVER FORGET.
Lest we forget
These episodes are so hard to watch... Then again I also think it's something everyone should watch.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, Greater, Middling, it’s all the same.”
You might want to read up on how that quote actually turned out in the end instead of just quoting a trailer. Because you're pretty much missing the entire meaning of it.
Thank you for saying that can’t compare suffering. I feel like if we do that it lessens the impact
Spartacus, you are AWESOME! Thank you, Indy and the crew!
Millions of needless deaths cannot be ignored.
Time Ghost's are the best historians Thank you for this video
This war will be bleak, grim, and dark. May those who perished on all sides both from soldiers to civilians rest in peace
except for the people who committed the crimes.
To clarify: no Finnish soldiers poured into the Soviet Union on 22.6. - not even into Soviet occupied Finnish territory.
Only days later.
@@saulgoodmansentme1992 Few days, few airstrikes, few bombing raids later.
@@meduseldtales3383 Why didn't Finland attack on June 22? What were the Finns waiting for?
@@dragosstanciu9866 Probably playing it a little safe waiting to see how the rest of the Axis advance went. That or delays in preparation.
@@MrBoringcabbage I understand.
It is rare where I like all the presenters of a specific channel. Good job on your series and cant wait for the next one. It really sends the message and really touches a nerve.
Glad you like us all! Happy to have you as a fan :)
My grandmother's best friends' father was a sergeant in the polish army, she was deported to Iran by the KGB. She also was related to royal blood, great content amazing to see such in depth while my grandparents lived through this.
My grandmother after the battle of Crete hid an fed two soldiers from New Zealand .
My grandmother MARIA was a Holly woman 22 years old and already a mother.
If the Germans found to hid allies soldiers executed you
After the war Australians and New Zealanders send packs of food to Crete they didn't forget how to treat them the local population
We had the right to fight against the Germans
Meanwhile in Romania a pogrom will begin at Iasi on June 28, 1941.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING HISTORY REAL AND BEARING ALL OF THE HORROR FOR EVERYONE TO SEE...
*baring
Not even Atlas could 'bear' all that horror.
Shocking that something like this could happen
Good one
Shocked that you got away with killing tem Kilo Trays, Front Yards and Rollin Heights Ballas, CJ!
Or that it happens repeatedly throughout history? The President of Kosovo was just charged with War Crimes. Turkey loves killing groups, Iraq did the same, China has reform camps that are most likely no different than the concentration camps. Besides what Stalin and Mao did.
Did you manage to follow the train, CJ?
Please make a special about USSR deporting Baltic People to Siberia
Dr Nisu Unn Or the USSR deporting any nationality - 150 nationalities ended up in Kazakhstan, for example.
@@Custerd1
Saved my relatives lives because they were deported one week before the Nazis invade.
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Are able to process the information i wrote? Its pretty straight forward, you want me to use smaller words?
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русский еврей
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нацисты для меня
не угроза
, особенно когда они читать не умеют
Props for pronouncing Kazys Škirpa almost perfectly.
@Sigueme1 very likely he was Lithuanian, in polish ths name is wirtten Kazimierz
That insight regarding the whataboutisms surrounding war crimes was just a whole load of YES. I've been trying to voice my thoughts, but you said it better than I ever could
My great grandma’s brother was captured by Germans in 1941 in Kaunas, Lithuania. They were encircled for 7 days and eventually he got captured… In 1943 he died in Concentration camp in Poland…
Tragic and fascinating history to know, thank you for sharing that part of your family's history.
I can think of no more sympathetic presenter than the excellent job Spartacus does here. Thank you.
what a species we are.. on one hand capable of art, music, on the other capable of the worst atrocities imaginable...
Even by just the "echoes of the past" - The pictures, the testimonies, the footage, and so forth.... Such terrifying levels of horror, sorrow, and suffering. Just a taste of it all is enough to make me shed tears, and feel overwhelming sorrow; For the people, the victims of it all.
These episodes are hard to watch, due to the sheer magnitude of it all, but the lessons of those times I feel are more than ever vital to remember today. Where hate seems to be again gaining in power; Slowly creeping in to sink its talons into untold numbers of lives yet again.
Thank you for the continued effort to all of you, for doing your part in trying to educate people, halt the spread of hate, and actively making an effort to debunk the continuously spreading harmful conspiracy theory rhetoric.
-With respect, from Finland
I saw an abandoned Gulag camp in the Ural forest. I saw several signatures in the Baltic languages on the ruined by age walls of old barracks.
Joined the TimeGhost Army some weeks ago - keep up the good work !
Cheers from Denmark
It feels weird clicking "I like it" on this video in particular.
Sorry to post something a little off topic, but I’ve seen more and more ads included with historical videos like this one (some of them you can’t even skip them) which I think it’s a good development if it means that TH-cam came to its senses. I want people who work hard to produce quality videos to make money to be able to pay their bills and to even profit because they deserve it.
I’m a history buff and these guys have delivered in my book; they have come up with an innovative way to teach history and I can’t thank them enough.
I got chills when he got to the end
Thank you for making these videos. History nerds like myself lose context of what a horrible war WWII was and how many Innocents died.
The openings have always been a strength to this channel but god damn the war against humanity intro blows the others out of the water.
I want to thank you Spartacus for your comments and this series as we need this message more than ever.
Great video, as always. However, as a Greek and a Cretan, I would like to make an important correction here. During the Ottoman occupation of the island, Cretans revolted under the Greek flag demanding not independence, but unification with Greece! Cretans, similarly to Cypriots, even though enslaved, participated en mass in all the national struggles of the Greeks. Indeed Crete won its partial independence in 1898, but the Cretans continued to demand unification with Greece, which eventually became a reality in 1913. The most important Greek statesman of the 20th century, was no other than the Cretan Eleftherios Venizelos, while the current prime minister of Greece is another Cretan, Kyriakos Mitsotakis.
To fight independently is not the same thing as to fight for independence.
@@WorldWarTwo the exact words of Spartacus after 5:01 are "There is a tradition of a Cretan independent identity that goes further back than the modern concept of nationality. During the Ottoman reign they wage guerrilla warfare to gain independence pretty much separately from mainland Greece ". The first sentence is correct. The second is somewhat confusing and also not entirely correct, as the Cretan participated in the main revolutions of the Greeks before Greece gained its independence from the Ottoman Empire. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_War_of_Independence#Crete
And we MUST add that Cretans are Greek too,they don't belong to a separate nation. Actually the Greek nation is not a 19th century creation, it continues to exist through the ages...
Very well put. As a Greek myself, I thought that this important misconception should be corrected. Cretans have always been loyal Greek patriots who have fought for Greek independence as part of a united Greek nation. This can also be said of our Greek brothers in Cyprus who fought for union (ΕΝΩΣΙΣ) with Greece, not independence.
*If anyone wants a good laugh, at the very start of this video, as soon as you hit play, double tap on the left side of the screen to rewind the video over & over and hear a dope ass remix of Spartacus sounding like a beat boxing DJ saying "Three, Tree, Three" 😂*
Thank you Spartacus for presenting such horrors in a respectful and intelligent manner. It's easy to get distracted by military equipment and operations. It is essential to understand how so many innocent people were targeted and slaughtered by the Nazis in that war.
I hail from Crete, it is beyond sickening that there are people out there that think that this horror didn't happen.
I like the tie, and the little details of the clip and the cuffs push this outfit to the next level. 4/5
Agreed. That red jacket is stunning.
Hallo Gianni, great times are coming - especially for your rating system - but more points will be necessary, believe me - I bought A LOT MORE TIES , AND GREAT ONES :))))))
@@astriddeinhard433 Oh Astrid you tease... I've just started a new job that has more standard office hours so I do hope I'll be able to continue applying my grades instantly. But don't worry, they'll still be there--just maybe a little slower sometimes. Looking forward to your latest additions!
@@gianniverschueren870 Hi Gianni - I am so happy for you having a new and hopefully wonderful job - all the best for this new challenge - let that be the most important thing, I am happy when you find the time to still watch our content and no matter what I will always think of you when I hand Indy his tie
@@astriddeinhard433 There's no way I'll miss a single of your wonderful videos. Or your ties. Tell everyone I said hi and enjoy the weekend!
The way Spartacus conveys information to the Audience is spot on for the topic.
When you get back to Yugoslavia, which might happen soon because of Operation Barbarossa, you should mention the Pančevo massacre since it's well documented with even footage of the executions.
1. A summery version of your opening about neutrality should be at the header of all these videos.
2. Elegant and invisible transition from opening to content at 4:51. Beautiful writing Spartacus & Joram.
YOU ARE RIGHT. A crime against humanity is a crime against humanity who ever does it. No excuses accepted.
this channel will never be monetized.
You are beeing rescued, please don't resist.
A common catch cry.
Living in Latvia have to say this channel is at least some consolation thank you
This series needs to be watched by everyone in the US right now. They seem to have a blindspot concerning atrocity, racism and history repeating itself.
What a great discovery this channel has been , Tag Spartacus!
I’m subscribing right now.
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
@@WorldWarTwo My pleasure , it was indeed a war against humanity. Your narrative goes in the same direction as Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands , a highly recommendable book , if I may.
A shining light amidst the Darkness: Chiune Sugihara, the Japanese consul in the Lithuania, who hand wrote 6000+ visas (he would not let anyone else take responsibility) for Jewish people who wanted to escape in 1940/41 from Poland/Lithuania thru USSR into Japanese territory.
The year 2020 is "The Year of Chiune Sugihara" in Lithuania.
web.archive.org/web/20110716023152/www.tiu.ac.jp/~bduell/ASJ/3-95_lecture_summary.html
tommy14 🤔 Indeed. Consul Sugihara is one of the most humane people of those times. Have you heard of the Portuguese Consul in France, Aristides de Souza Mendes? He, too, issued visas to people pleading for his help. Two most admirable men in times of gross abominations across Europe.
What a great service your broadcast is to our country and humanity.
the amount of intelligence in this video is amazing and we'll put at the beginning suffering is suffering one is no different then the other
Great episode! Highly approve of the message in the end
"We will increase the amount of WAH videos to two per month"
Wooooo! ....weirdest cheer I have done in my life...
Right? But in my mind I appreciate that because it makes me think they are working hard on helping people understand the how devastating and horrifying WW2 was.
Yaaaaaay
(realizes implications)
Oh, Jesus, _no_
Been watching since your first month on YT, you've only gotten better. Thanks for the amazing videos.
Never forget, sad times
Really great intro, glad you made that clear.
What a powerful in- and outro Spartacus ! Never forget - cheers from Germany
these type of videos ARE important and needed to tell the history and if we do not know our history we will repeat it , since its clear schools now now found to be wanting in teaching anything properly about history or just out right ignoring things or putting so much bias in them . i am glad you people do these videos! so important
Thank you
@@WorldWarTwo aye lad :D tis why i love this channel and your others, important to learn about ww1, 2 and everything! yous make it fun funny and interesting and take it seriously
Thank you for the discussion at the beginning of the video. Contrasting the different situations and murderous rampages which make up genocide is a way to note the different forms and issues that can lead to genocide I think is a way of understanding and can be empathic. Comparison, on the other hand can, and in my experience usually does, delves into a point scale, where this genocide is worse because "x" so therefore "x people" suffered more. While these comments can be understandable from people who have little understanding of the topic of genocide, it should be immediately be made clear that those kinds of statements are inappropriate and are very insulting to people who have suffered.
So thank you for stating that, while it can be difficult to delve into the issues of why this part of the discussion needs to be said your last statement is very prescient "how insulting to the victims as it somehow indicates that they were less unfortunate than others". Think about how insulting and brutally cruel that would be to say to someone who lost their child in Rwanda in 1990, or their brother in Bosnia in 1992, to have been raped by a German soldier in France in 1941 in exchange for your life, etc. All of these are cruel and inhumane, all of them are individual acts in atrocities to make a scale of well "x is worse than y" is categorically inappropriate and should be called out. Thanks
World Wars in real time are finally getting real. This is something some of my older neighbours and my grandmother actually remember.
Really hits you.
Where were they when they witness/survive/escape all of those?
Literally three days into war there’s already a holocaust
Your opening statement was well said and sympathetic to all atrocities committed by man since the beginning of time. While inhuman acts still exist today; nothing in recent time can compare to the organized and systematic extermination of humanity in such fairly recent times. One would think that we would have evolved by now out of this type of destruction. And yet; these events happened less than 70 years ago. In another episode you mention that almost nobody under the age of 30 has a clear understanding of the holocaust... if any information on the subject at all. Your channel is named World War Two... Not Wars of The Ages. I for one appreciate your videos on all things WW2. The History Channel has turned into a History Joke and some of us must go elsewhere for historical facts outside of the reality tv show machine. Your show is informative, has stellar production quality and answers in details the questions anyone would ever have on its subjects. Keep up the amazing work!!!
They are already in lithuania? Those germans are fast
They were bordering Lithuania.
I believe Memel (a province of lithuania) was controled by germany.
Armygroup North was extremely fast in their advance.
They bordered Lithuania so they were there pretty much within the first hours of the invasion.
Stalin will hold them off , they will never be able to take Riga or Kiev Comrade
Another amazing video from the whole WW2 team, always happy to see new content from u guys
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -- G. Santayana
It is so hard to imagine that humans beings can commit such atrocities less than 100 years ago. Somehow this part of history tends to be forgotten in many history book. Sadly we come to learn such details on a great balanced documentary like this. Thanks to all the people involved at the World War Two series for researching and showing it to us.