Deep Stall - The SUPER STALL.

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  • A deep stall is a serious condition. Also known as the super stall, it's common to T-tail aeroplanes and can make the aeroplane unrecoverable. Find out how in this video.
    If you are interested in this topic, ‪@MentourPilot‬ does a fantastic job explaining it in his video: • The STALL you can't ge...
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  • @FunWorldGame1993
    @FunWorldGame1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

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      @flightclubonline  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @SS-eu2ef
    @SS-eu2ef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

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  • @treyn8070
    @treyn8070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I can't imagine what it would be like to be a pilot in a plane that goes into a deep stall. It is unrecoverable so there is nothing you can do but sit and wait for the hit and hope you lived a good life as your life flashes in front of your eyes.

    • @hulayhussain6714
      @hulayhussain6714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Its not that bad as you are saying here lol you can recover from it

    • @RealGoldRealWealth
      @RealGoldRealWealth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That happened in Britain with I believe the BAC one-Eleven flight test program.

    • @dr.julianbashir9193
      @dr.julianbashir9193 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You have to quickly realize that there's no going back and leave a humorous recording on the CVR for the youtubers, after you say your goodbyes to family and friends of course. If there's time. Lol

    • @smd4246
      @smd4246 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unimaginable feeling of fear

    • @Acidburn191
      @Acidburn191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.julianbashir9193 for a guy with a DR. title, you sound super pessimistic.

  • @yanngumbs97133
    @yanngumbs97133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for sure save so much of my times my respect , for all you have done and your time you giving for all pilots students

  • @stevenkramer7595
    @stevenkramer7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fantastic channel and video!

  • @raccoonair
    @raccoonair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very well done, thanks for sharing.

  • @lucasbunk836
    @lucasbunk836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good Video. Thank you!

  • @sachinkumar064
    @sachinkumar064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video as usual.

  • @drseven1275
    @drseven1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing !

  • @murugurthy
    @murugurthy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Learnt a new concept under stalls..Thank you...
    What I never like is the fact how nonpaid pilots(they were unpaid for 6 months) were blamed for a dual engine failure and stall due to a lack of procedures in the airline to measure the weight of the bags appropriately! This MD-80 hence got into a super stall, and there were dangerous updrafts too unfortunately!
    No wonder this type of aircraft is discontinued!

    • @martinnikolov2363
      @martinnikolov2363 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This type of aircraft,like every other,has its pros and cons,but i can assure you that it is just as safe as the others if you control it as you're supposed to..

  • @juanitojr.urbano6257
    @juanitojr.urbano6257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing explanation.....

  • @angrypepecancer5205
    @angrypepecancer5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Youre the best

  • @fonwoolridge
    @fonwoolridge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! Thanks - subbed!

  • @pikachu6031
    @pikachu6031 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only “T” Tail aircraft are affected by the “Deep Stall” phenomenon. They have a device installed in the cockpit called a “Stick Pusher” which automatically forces the control column rapidly forward if the aircraft approaches the stall. This action forces the nose down, increasing airspeed, thus preventing a deep stall from developing. Once a “T” Tail aeroplane has entered a deep stall, recovery is totally impossible and a fatal crash will result. Hence the “Stick Pusher”. This is exactly what happened to the British European Airways (BEA) Trident (Papa India) disaster at Staines, near London Heathrow in 1972. It’s a very famous air disaster case and well worth a read, or watching a video about it on TH-cam!

    • @pixelapse9613
      @pixelapse9613 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But why T tail is only affected by deep stall? Please explain scientifically

    • @ell8711
      @ell8711 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@pixelapse9613
      basically, as angle of attack increases to the critical angle, the lift from the main wing is reduced and the turbulent air raises and covers the elevators, making them far less effective, which further contributes to the effect along with slow speed and sinkrate
      think static instability but only at critical angles of attack

  • @codingvio7383
    @codingvio7383 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For glider pilots, it is so incredibly important that the plane is loaded slightly nose heavy, or else stall recovery is close to impossible.

  • @hotshot4512
    @hotshot4512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is it possible to say use differential thrust + aileron + rudder even with reduced effectiveness? I'd think that the only hope in this case would be to have a wing drop and make it a spin rather than a deep stall

  • @bedirhanari
    @bedirhanari 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks a lot, explained very well. But i recommend speeding video a bit.

  • @pk7549
    @pk7549 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. Required sick pusher.
    2. You CAN recover from deep stall.
    3. Appreciate that swept wing CL curve has a much less pronounced drop off when compared to straight wing, therefore aerodynamic incipent stall indications are more insidious.

  • @citysoundfm
    @citysoundfm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hence the invention of the ‘stick pusher’ on all transport category T tail airplanes.

  • @ecwskier4500
    @ecwskier4500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question, would decreasing throttle not drop the nose? Or could increasing throttle help?

  • @alexc5449
    @alexc5449 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a little confused. Are these aircraft not nose heavy to help recover from stalls?

  • @pratiek_writes6726
    @pratiek_writes6726 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep giving knowlegde to us...
    Love from India❤✨

  • @josephhurdman5588
    @josephhurdman5588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people have suggested unequal thtust, in a multi-engined aircaft, in order to get out of a Deep Stall, but it's not a guarantee of survival...

  • @yoginero
    @yoginero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can use thrust , aerons and rudder to get out of it, if the flight computer doesn't block your inputs.

    • @unflexian
      @unflexian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      on any airbus you can turn off the two elacs and two facs to get into direct law, with absolutely no protections blocked inputs or modified inputs

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In a deep stall, nothing that you mentioned definitively works towards lowering the angle of attack. Remeber the airplane already has a very high sink rate. Only a definitive nose down push can break the stall. Without the tail, this cannot be effectively accomplished.

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope!

  • @boop53
    @boop53 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m not even a pilot i just find airplanes interesting

  • @t.r.s.5129
    @t.r.s.5129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't this what happened to the Air France 447 flight from Brazil to Paris??

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not exactly. That airplane was in a pilot induced stall yes but it was recoverable. The pilot just made no attempt to correctly recover.

  • @makantahi3731
    @makantahi3731 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    extend flaps and slats

  • @OnceShy_TwiceBitten
    @OnceShy_TwiceBitten ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is a death sentence unrecoverable? or is that a different term than I think it is? find it hard to believe SOME movement wouldn't let you recover in some way.

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can’t get into it in the first place. The T tail transport category airplanes require a mandatory ‘stick pusher’ that breaks the impending stall before it gets to full development.

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only in the UK do T Tail airplanes have a stick pusher.

  • @georgeconway4360
    @georgeconway4360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two Deep Stall T Tail crashes: NWA6231 B727 JFK-BUF 01DEC1974, West Caribbean MD80 15AUG2005.

  • @user-ge1qc9pl6y
    @user-ge1qc9pl6y 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I came here from emergecny landing event

  • @3mar00ss6
    @3mar00ss6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    u can't recover the plane? like nada it's over? bruh like nothing on the tail could save u realign???? wow u learn something new everyday

  • @mattfeldman1854
    @mattfeldman1854 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nose down power on

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can’t ’nose down’ if your tail is in the stall wake. It has no authority.

  • @BMW_Z4idiot
    @BMW_Z4idiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    say your prayers, and then booooooom - charred toast

  • @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock
    @ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock ปีที่แล้ว

    sooo .. how you supposed to recover from it?

    • @citysoundfm
      @citysoundfm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can’t get into it in the first place. The T tail transport category airplanes require a mandatory ‘stick pusher’ that breaks the impending stall before it gets to full development.

    • @pk7549
      @pk7549 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The horizontal stab can still have some authority. If the pilot can create enough up and down pitch oscillation by using a combination of thrust and elevator application, they may be able to force the tail out of the turbulent air and recover.

  • @noir_fedora1701
    @noir_fedora1701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reasons why im scared to become a pilot

  • @toyotacdobylylepepito207
    @toyotacdobylylepepito207 ปีที่แล้ว

    This what happened to Air France 447

    • @gort8203
      @gort8203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it isn't. The F/O held that airplane in a stall with backstick.

  • @Niamhboof
    @Niamhboof ปีที่แล้ว

    did anyone else see it 1:32

  • @johnsmith-rs2vk
    @johnsmith-rs2vk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BE 548 ?

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BEA may have had a deep stall but the actual cause of the stall was the retraction of the Droops 60 knots below the retraction speed causing an immediate stall that left the only possible way to recover was to extend the droops back to the extended takeoff position. Nothing else could have saved them.