Why Celebrate Juneteenth? As a matter of Conscious...
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- Hari Jones, curator of the African American Civil War Museum poses a question and presents historical facts in an effort to increase awareness regarding the push for a national Juneteenth holiday.
9 years later Juneteenth becoming a holiday.
Thank you for posting this. Mr. Jones was a fountain of knowledge, always happy to share it.
If it's not personal.dont celebrate it. . .now hush people
Juneteenth, should, and is celebrated here in Galveston where I live. Galveston Texas is the birthplace of Juneteenth. The historic events of June 19, 1865 are a major component of American History. The celebration of Juneteenth does NOT imply that African Americans are celebrating their liberation from others. It has been clearly established that African American Union soldiers were part of General Granger's military force. No one in Galveston is suggesting that African Americans did not play a critical role in their own celebration. We have our own legacy bearers in the live of Lavinia Bell. Celebrating Juneteenth here in Galveston is a matter of conscious, history, and Civil Rights, a point missed by curator Hari Jones. The issuance of General Orders, No. 3 is separate and distinct from Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. Jones does not mention this in his assertions. General Order No 3, as issued through hand bills across Texas made it clear that freedmen were considered to have "absolute equality" to their former slave owners. Neither the Emancipation Proclamation nor the 13th Amendment mentions the word equality. Again, we in Galveston clearly understand that African American Union troops were part of the liberation force on June 19, 1865, One final thing. Brownsville Texas is not part of SW Texas. It is part of the Rio Grande Valley, which is considered deep southern Texas.
read the laws on the books. that's the argument. you should know the truth, you should celebrate the truth. why don't the laws on the books in the states that celebrate juneteenth create the illusion? our texas ancestors couldn't read? they didn't communicate with others enough to know about the emancipation proclamation until 2 years later? those are lies and that's what these juneteenth laws propose. change the language in the laws and then everyone will know what you know.
Kobie Nichols Galveston Texas, like New Orleans, were the two major port cities. When Granger and his Union troops arrived on June 19, 1865, they not only issued General Orders, No. 3, they issued Generals Orders, No. 1, 2, 4, and 5. Among the other five General Orders, General Orders No 5 seized the port of Galveston, ending the export of cotton out of Texas, and thus, ending the Civil War.
Kobie Nichols Texas history clearly shows that by the late 1870's, over 100,000 former slaves had the right to vote. The anthropology of Black townships throughout Eastern Texas and the Coastal Bend of Texas clearly show this to this date. Norris Wright Cuney organized perhaps this nation's first African American organized labor groups such as the Lone Star Cotton Jammers as early as the 1870's. It is no wonder that the rich history of Galveston is a city of Firsts for African Americans. It is no wonder we were able to produce the first African American heavyweight boxing champion in Jack Johnson at the turn of the 20th Century. All of this was due to an established, emerging class of citizens who were liberated, and fought for their rights through their vote and organized financial clout.
Kobie Nichols Freed slaves in Galveston were not laissez faire recipients of freedom. Far, far from it. They built this city and their work is seen through the many multigenerational descendents of Juneteenth who still live on Galveston Island. It is a quantum leap to assume that celebrating Juneteenth means we are celebrating others freeing us while we did nothing.
Kobie Nichols Furthermore, telegraphy was clearly in place in the port city of Galveston on June 19, 1865. The use of the telegram was also used to let other regions of Texas that the port of Galveston we held under Union control. Everyone in Texas knew of Lincoln's Emancipation proclamation. However, due to lack of Union troops, there was no way for the Proclamation to be enforced. News of Granger's arrival and the use of the telegraph allowed the world to know that Granger secured to port of Galveston with little-to-no Confederate opposition.
Kobie's explanation itself contains as many inaccuracies as he decries. He is twisting the truth, including Lincoln's statement about the many contributions of USCT troops, which WERE great. The war WOULD have been won.without USCT troops eventually, although they did contribute to it. The number of USCT troops was large. However, their military contribution was much less as fighting troops and more as laborers. This was due to the refusal of Union commanders to widely employ them as combat forces. Despite the exploits of units such as the 54th Massachusetts and the brave stand of outnumbered soldier laborers at Milliken's Bend, overall throughout the war, there were few times when USCT troops were, through ignorance, prejudice, or misinformation, ALLOWED to fight. Some Union officers thought them incapable. Others did not trust them in the line of battle, and others feared that their presence in the battle.would inspire Confederate troops to fight harder, and thereby increase Union casualties or even turn the ride of battle from a win to a loss.
So, historically, he at the very least, over exaggerates the BATTLE contributions if USCT troops. They DID serve in great numbers, jyst not in the theatre of combat in numbers large enough to "ensure a victory. Sorry, but youre just flat wrong. Your criticism of WEB DuBois' writing is TOTALLY unwarranted as well. He lived much closer to first hand accounts of the historical record than YOU.
The contribution of the United States Colored Troops is of great significance to United States victory in the Civil War. Indeed, every single person who contributed to victory- and the abolition of slavery in the process- is significant to that end.
I looked it up and a Wikipedia article states that Black soldiers fought in 40 major battles and hundreds of minor skirmishes in the war (this is refenced from Edwin Bonekemper's book "The Myth of the Lost Cause"). I don't know how accurate this statistic is but I believe the most important fact about the USCT and their contribution to victory is their very existence, period. Wins on the battlefield is nice but there's something more important- the fact that these soldiers were not used by the rebellion towards whatever victory they were trying to achieve.
It is true that some Black men in the North did not want to join the military because they had a lot to lose- the life of freedom they had carved out in a country where they were the targets of human trafficking; the reality of inferior pay compared to White soldiers; and the certain risk of being murdered if they tried to surrender after a loss on the battlefield (while White soldiers were taken prisoner) or being enslaved again or for the first time in their lives. It's also true that many enslaved people remained in bondage throughout the war. But many people found freedom. Many people in this country have lived with an idea that Blacks did nothing during the Civil War and it was up to White Union soldiers to come and liberate them. But this narrative is just false and a serious study proves that it's not only false but a detriment to how we understand history and ourselves as Americans.
I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Confederates had issued an Emancipation of their own- exchanging freedom for support in aiding in the rebellion- before the Lincoln Administration had issued it in 1862. But I have to wonder when that would have been. I don't see it happening at any time, especially when the rebels believed Confederate victory and the slavery and White Supremacy that created the rebellion in the first place- was ordained by God. But I think if they had offered enslaved people freedom it might have been their best chance at victory. But I'm certainly glad they never did.
This is a great video. It challenges common perceptions about Juneteenth, and offers uncomfortable answers about the historical narrative we're implicitly endorsing when we celebrate it.
Teach! Celebrate the truth! Black soldiers in the Union Army to include Harriet Tubman, fought like hell against the Confederates and won the Civil War! In the words of the great James Brown, “I don’t want you to give me nothing, open up the door and I’ll get it myself!!!!!”
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Only in P.C afro-America..!
I wanted to like this video until 6:10 he states Brownsville TX is in SW TX... Brownsville is not far from Galveston in Southeast Texas
I love this. Give me the TRUTH. Thanks Brotha...... I would love a copy of the document that you are reading. Galveston born and raised. SICK how this was not taught in depth in GISD. Ball High did a SORRY job of teaching BLACK HISTORY. We begged for a Black History Class for years. IT NEVER HAPPENED. Now 13 years later still nothing. But they make sure the athletics department stay on point.
How can you like this video? You're from Galveston and should know Brownsville is not in SW TX,it's in Southeast TX. We don't know when to celebrate
Matthew 19:28
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
So happy you connected me to Hari when he was still on this side Kobie.
This is a powerful presentation. I have watched several times and shared with others. Celebrate liberation. Reparations now!
Here's a great idea everybody! Let's continue to segregate and celebrate separately!
Wayland C isn’t that a step in the wrong direction?
@@meuswe It's been five years since I posted that, but I'm pretty sure I was being sarcastic.
Sarxastic is how zi took it. Except you both are right. This discussion DOES sow unnecessary division and WOULD be a step in the wrong direction.
I celebrate Juneteenth but not as he has described the celebration in this video. It has nothing to do with blacks having nothing to do with their freedom. That's a part of our celebrations as well as all the other accomplishments that have occurred thorough self determination. That is the story just as much as the proclamation and the 13th amendment is. The 13th amendment made slavery illegal and the proclamation confirmed it that's all. I have never celebrated enslaved African descendants laying back doing nothing towards the freedom from their oppressed conditions until one day they was freed. Fighting for our freedom was an on going action until they overcame the system as it was then.
Thank you, sir. I'm from Galveston, and did not hear about Junetheenth until the early 1990s. I was not taught it in school, or in the north after my father moved us to St Louis. This needs to be promoted and spoken aloud. Sir, I apologize for the ignorance we were taught.
Juneteenth lol
Whatever
Juneteenth is only celebrated the South never heard of it up north until I move to Texas
'History' or 'Propaganda' probably more Propaganda than 'History.
Wonder what he would say about Juneteenth becoming a National Holiday.
I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Myers on June 21, 2014, when he came to Galveston for his Flag raising ceremony. He attended and played a jazz set during our Texas-sanctioned marker dedication in honor of Juneteenth. He is not asking that Juneteenth become an National holiday, bur rather a National Day of Observance, similar to Flag day.
Aprilteenth...period...end of discussion...thanks for informing us.
Thank you so much, shared!
I'm all about another holiday
I did not know this
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