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An excellent review as always. I hope at some point they introduce the midnight blue laminate stock as that looks better to my eye but each to their own. Well done Rich, keep up the good work! 😁👌.
Taking one of these out for a night or day on the rabbits, I think I’d be looking more to where my feet were going and carrying one of these like a newborn baby instead of looking for my quarry. Then how would one of these hold up if got caught up in some heavy downpour with all the electricals within it. I know it’s all about horses for courses but as nice as it is it’s not for me, definitely sticking to my amazing air arms s510 tactical and my weihrauch hw100 kt as they both perform excellent and serve my purposes more than adequately.
Certainly one to watch closely when climbing over that gate! I can't speak to the waterproofness of the Alpha Wolf, but my Red Wolf, Pulsar and mk4 have had plenty of soakings in the past without any issues. I think the reality is that the Alpha Wolf will appeal to those who like to shoot long range targets, extreme bench rest etc. The ability to fine tune, tweak and play with settings will appeal to some shooters but not to others. But I guess that's true of every other rifle?
Thank you for the video. Released on my birthday. I put in my order here in the state's at AOA and just now received it. Fac .22 Had to wait for the Daystate batch to cross the big pond. Wow. Just wow is it beautiful. Do wish the Safari stocks had been out though. Have a Redwolf safari and love it. This seems to nice to take out hunting. I'll be upset with myself when I scratch it. Bound to happen. I'll be getting the .25 barrel kit for this Alpha wolf. The .22 barrel has a slow twist rate, not for long range slugs. But up to 50 yards it's ok.
Hi Richard great review as always, I’m concerned at the moment about investing in a new gun or shooting in general with the ban on lead by all accounts about to happen over the next 18 months Ish, just can’t see at the moment we’re especially in the bigger calibres if it will be affordable or even accurate at distance. Will this make all guns a non viable option then there’s the barrels can the existing take a different alloy will they all need to be scrapped. No one is really supplying heavy lead free ammo options in FAC or the smaller cal’s at the moment and no one on TH-cam is really covering it apart fro Mr AAR but that’s just come out tonight on the news thing he does now, it’s the biggest change and threat to shooting I know of to date, could be some good content for videos there?
Hi Richard, thanks for the review. Any chance on doing a further review on the sub 12 programming side, as I have just bought one in .177. And was wondering if it be worth buying the computer link unit as to what changes can be done?
Hi. The DTD laptop/gun plug in will enable you to download new features, bug fixes, settings and updates just like any other software. Thanks for watching.
Very interesting and thorough review. I wonder if we will see more manufactures moving to 'digital' designs? I can understand that may be a FAC powered rifle in the hands of a skilled target shooter would benefit from the programability, but for the fast majority of shooters in the UK using sub 12ft/lb, I am not sure how much of a benefit such a rifle gives them. Just me being odd, but I am not a big fan of using the trigger and safety combo to unlock the screen, to me there should only be one reason for pulling the trigger, and using it for other functionality is potentially introducing poor trigger discipline.
Great review! I am looking at purchasing either a red wolf or alpha wolf in HP FAC; 90% of my shooting is on game and I worry that the red wolf will be too bulky to carry around, I I like the idea of being able to change calibers on the alpha wolf, but I prefer the look and simplicity of the red wolf. Is they any differences between the two in accuracy and which one would you choose?
Hi. Both are great rifles and incredibly accurate but whilst you can of course hunt with an Alpha Wolf, personally I think the Red Wolf is better suited. They are of course completely different - rifle and bullpup - so you'd have to decide which style suits you better. There's not a lot in terms of weight. I am fortunate to have both and for hunting much prefer the Red Wolf. One thing to consider is that if you go for the HP (High Power) model, it will have a 23 inch barrel. By the time you've put a silencer on it makes it a very long rifle. The HiLite model has a 17 inch barrel and is available in 45 ft/lbs .22 and .25 (which is ample in my opinion). You get less in the way of adjustability compared to the Alpha Wolf, but the Red Wolf still has a low/medium/high power setting amongst other electronic features. You also get the choice of a walnut, laminate or Safari stock whereas the Alpha Wolf is laminate or Safari. I hope that helps. Please let us know if we can do anything else to help.
Great review Richard as Always straight talking and simple,but is the rifle really much better than the redwolf considering how much extra money the rifle costs,no disputing that the rifle is superb but out of reach of a lot of people due to its high cost.
Thanks Malcolm. I think it comes down to what you want from a rifle. The Alpha Wolf has a lot more flexibility in terms of electronic features and functions, and of course an integrated chronograph and the ability to refine pellet velocity in much smaller increments. But you're right in that they are both supremely accurate air rifles.
hello there Sir just a heads up i have a test Delta 1 of 5 now the thing iv noticed after updating the firm ware is to unlock the gun 3 things have to be done oridgnaly only 2 bolt and trigger now since the update its bolt safety to fire i like to put this back to safe then hold down the trigger now hear comes the kicker if the screen is still on after unlocking and you want to unlock the screen all you need to do is open the bolt and then hold the trigger with out needing the safety this to me don't make any sense since the bolt is open why touch the safety thanks take it easy
Got to give Daystate credit for consistently introducing and improving air rifles bringing new ideas to the market 👍. Not my cup of tea though 🤔 I will stick to my Daystate Huntsman HRs they look great and they are reliable and they are both super accurate.
I was on the verge of ordering one for HFT. However, from the various reviews I am now doubting if the sub 12ft/lb version is as good as the FAC version regards functionality and inbuilt options? I have no need for an FAC so its looking like this gun is more suited to FAC than Target use. My club has a rule of no FAC weapons allowed. All must be sub 12ft/lb.
I can't speak to HFT as it's not my thing, but the 12 ft/lbs Alpha Wolf has just about all the adjustment and fine-tuning capability of the FAC rifle other than, obviously, the ability to adjust regulator pressure. In other words, it is way more tune-able than anything else on the market.
A real high tech rifle. Nice looking stock. But the competition has a 300 bar filling pressure and when you shoot high power and a big caliber that would be better than 240 bar.
Hi great as always . I have a question if i want to use a pellet or slugs that is not in the set-up factorial list, how should i adjust the voltage in the advance setting and other things. For example, I want to use 30 gr H&N slug in .22 cal. What should the voltage be? Is there an instruction or a table for the Advancing Sting section?
I have three Impacts and they are good but I have to say the Alpha Wolf has the edge on performance. It's also been more reliable (the three Impacts have all leaked). No issues with the electronics. Daystate has been making electronic rifles for 20 odd years so they've got the hang of it...
Would of been better if it was a 12ftlb rifle as lot of “club” shooters are not FAC holders nor do they want to be given the present firearms license application situation and what you have to go through to be granted one.
A BRK Ghost does not have all the complexities of electronics and won 2 bench rest world championships and set a new world record last year. I know where my monies going. But a great review . Thanks . PS A Hawke cap but an MTC scope . Tony Belas won’t be happy.😂😂
Tengo un delta wolf .25 alguien me podria decir q clase de configuracion es la mas adecuada para mi rifle uso jsb 33.95 gr si alguien sabe me podria decir gracias
Wish you were given a sub 12 ft to try as the information can be misleading .The video you did in the past on the delta wolf 😔 it's all about sales l would much rather see an honest review to help as a lot of dealers are not to bothered once they have your money And if you try and contact daystate it's hard work 😔
Amazing tech Rich, but it is so butt ugly! I'd like to see a how a 12lbf version would compare in the accuracy stakes to my Huntsman Classic. A step forward, or just playing to the market? Great review whatever matey.
Thanks John. I think that in reality it's going to appeal to those for whom tuning, adjusting and tweaking their set up is a major part of the attraction of shooting - extreme bench rest, long range target shooting, that sort of thing.
Absolutely Rich. Just the way things are going, and nothing wrong with that. I just appreciate walnut and steel with beautiful lines and feel. I also have an FX Wildcat which ticks all my boxes, so I’m not totally stuck in the past!!!
That's the trouble with videos. They capture a moment in time and this was published nine months ago. I think most of this is still relevant. Perhaps you could tell folks exactly what has changed with the latest firmware update? That would be more helpful...
For that kind of money, I'll buy something that shoots a lot more powerful and bigger projectile. I know everyone has their preference but for me, no air rifle is worth the asking price daystate is asking.
Well you know, purchase is not compulsory and there are plenty of cheaper air rifles out there. Innovation comes at a cost and without it we'd be throwing sticks and stones.
@@airgunextra I disagree at £2500 it’s pure greed but your correct at pointing out there are cheaper and most likely better ones too at around £1780 and a compressor and still won’t reach £2500.
Forgive me but a gave a dislike. Not for your review ! So why?.....Is this Daystate a Microsoft, an Apple or a Google? Its not a gun. Its a way of making MONEY !!!
Oooouugghhh, a lot of plastic on the backside off the TOTALLLYYY overpriced gun. However, you can play well around with and it looks nice, but 1100-1300 bucks overpriced ... !!!
If you're comparing to a rifle that costs 1100-1300 bucks less, you'd need to compare it to rifles that don't have an integrated chronograph and all the other tune-able features the Alpha Wolf has.
@@airgunextra With the FX chronograph and a new Impact you can tune in the same style. The computerized gimmicks into Alpha Wolf are not more than 1000 bucks worth. I will buy the Alpha, of course, but never for more than 2400. However, also 2400 for an Impact are overpriced.
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Great and detailed video Rich, many thanks.
An excellent review as always. I hope at some point they introduce the midnight blue laminate stock as that looks better to my eye but each to their own. Well done Rich, keep up the good work! 😁👌.
Thanks very much. I understand a Safari stock is coming at some point...
@@airgunextra im trying to avoid buying the safari edition. I know as soon as I do that, they will announce a BRK ghost in safari.
A very nice rifle. I think I will stick to my Wolverine R though. It is super accurate, both at benchrest and HFT. 👍
Taking one of these out for a night or day on the rabbits, I think I’d be looking more to where my feet were going and carrying one of these like a newborn baby instead of looking for my quarry. Then how would one of these hold up if got caught up in some heavy downpour with all the electricals within it. I know it’s all about horses for courses but as nice as it is it’s not for me, definitely sticking to my amazing air arms s510 tactical and my weihrauch hw100 kt as they both perform excellent and serve my purposes more than adequately.
Certainly one to watch closely when climbing over that gate! I can't speak to the waterproofness of the Alpha Wolf, but my Red Wolf, Pulsar and mk4 have had plenty of soakings in the past without any issues. I think the reality is that the Alpha Wolf will appeal to those who like to shoot long range targets, extreme bench rest etc. The ability to fine tune, tweak and play with settings will appeal to some shooters but not to others. But I guess that's true of every other rifle?
Nice review
Thanks very much James...Appreciate you taking the time to let us know.
Great review, Rich.
Thank you for the video. Released on my birthday. I put in my order here in the state's at AOA and just now received it. Fac .22 Had to wait for the Daystate batch to cross the big pond. Wow. Just wow is it beautiful. Do wish the Safari stocks had been out though. Have a Redwolf safari and love it. This seems to nice to take out hunting. I'll be upset with myself when I scratch it. Bound to happen. I'll be getting the .25 barrel kit for this Alpha wolf. The .22 barrel has a slow twist rate, not for long range slugs. But up to 50 yards it's ok.
Lucky you Randy. And happy birthday. Enjoy your new rifle...
@@airgunextra thanks!
Hi Richard great review as always, I’m concerned at the moment about investing in a new gun or shooting in general with the ban on lead by all accounts about to happen over the next 18 months Ish, just can’t see at the moment we’re especially in the bigger calibres if it will be affordable or even accurate at distance. Will this make all guns a non viable option then there’s the barrels can the existing take a different alloy will they all need to be scrapped. No one is really supplying heavy lead free ammo options in FAC or the smaller cal’s at the moment and no one on TH-cam is really covering it apart fro Mr AAR but that’s just come out tonight on the news thing he does now, it’s the biggest change and threat to shooting I know of to date, could be some good content for videos there?
Hi Richard, thanks for the review. Any chance on doing a further review on the sub 12 programming side, as I have just bought one in .177. And was wondering if it be worth buying the computer link unit as to what changes can be done?
When you say upgrade the software, what does that mean exactly, what does it improve from the delta to the alpha, very detailed vid by the way 👍
Hi. The DTD laptop/gun plug in will enable you to download new features, bug fixes, settings and updates just like any other software. Thanks for watching.
Very interesting and thorough review. I wonder if we will see more manufactures moving to 'digital' designs?
I can understand that may be a FAC powered rifle in the hands of a skilled target shooter would benefit from the programability, but for the fast majority of shooters in the UK using sub 12ft/lb, I am not sure how much of a benefit such a rifle gives them.
Just me being odd, but I am not a big fan of using the trigger and safety combo to unlock the screen, to me there should only be one reason for pulling the trigger, and using it for other functionality is potentially introducing poor trigger discipline.
Great review! I am looking at purchasing either a red wolf or alpha wolf in HP FAC; 90% of my shooting is on game and I worry that the red wolf will be too bulky to carry around, I I like the idea of being able to change calibers on the alpha wolf, but I prefer the look and simplicity of the red wolf. Is they any differences between the two in accuracy and which one would you choose?
Hi. Both are great rifles and incredibly accurate but whilst you can of course hunt with an Alpha Wolf, personally I think the Red Wolf is better suited. They are of course completely different - rifle and bullpup - so you'd have to decide which style suits you better. There's not a lot in terms of weight. I am fortunate to have both and for hunting much prefer the Red Wolf. One thing to consider is that if you go for the HP (High Power) model, it will have a 23 inch barrel. By the time you've put a silencer on it makes it a very long rifle. The HiLite model has a 17 inch barrel and is available in 45 ft/lbs .22 and .25 (which is ample in my opinion). You get less in the way of adjustability compared to the Alpha Wolf, but the Red Wolf still has a low/medium/high power setting amongst other electronic features. You also get the choice of a walnut, laminate or Safari stock whereas the Alpha Wolf is laminate or Safari. I hope that helps. Please let us know if we can do anything else to help.
Great review Richard as Always straight talking and simple,but is the rifle really much better than the redwolf considering how much extra money the rifle costs,no disputing that the rifle is superb but out of reach of a lot of people due to its high cost.
Thanks Malcolm. I think it comes down to what you want from a rifle. The Alpha Wolf has a lot more flexibility in terms of electronic features and functions, and of course an integrated chronograph and the ability to refine pellet velocity in much smaller increments. But you're right in that they are both supremely accurate air rifles.
hello there Sir
just a heads up i have a test Delta 1 of 5 now the thing iv noticed after updating the firm ware is to unlock the gun 3 things have to be done oridgnaly only 2 bolt and trigger
now since the update its bolt safety to fire i like to put this back to safe then hold down the trigger now hear comes the kicker if the screen is still on after unlocking and you want to unlock the screen all you need to do is open the bolt and then hold the trigger with out needing the safety this to me don't make any sense since the bolt is open why touch the safety thanks take it easy
Got to give Daystate credit for consistently introducing and improving air rifles bringing new ideas to the market 👍. Not my cup of tea though 🤔 I will stick to my Daystate Huntsman HRs they look great and they are reliable and they are both super accurate.
I was on the verge of ordering one for HFT. However, from the various reviews I am now doubting if the sub 12ft/lb version is as good as the FAC version regards functionality and inbuilt options? I have no need for an FAC so its looking like this gun is more suited to FAC than Target use. My club has a rule of no FAC weapons allowed. All must be sub 12ft/lb.
I can't speak to HFT as it's not my thing, but the 12 ft/lbs Alpha Wolf has just about all the adjustment and fine-tuning capability of the FAC rifle other than, obviously, the ability to adjust regulator pressure. In other words, it is way more tune-able than anything else on the market.
@@airgunextra Thanks 👍
Does the Alpha Wolf not come with a dust cover for the fill port?
Nope...But has a brass/copper filter in the valve.
A real high tech rifle. Nice looking stock. But the competition has a 300 bar filling pressure and when you shoot high power and a big caliber that would be better than 240 bar.
£2500 rifle and doesn’t even have a dust cover for the filler port….
Total joke mate.
Hi great as always . I have a question if i want to use a pellet or slugs that is not in the set-up factorial list, how should i adjust the voltage in the advance setting and other things. For example, I want to use 30 gr H&N slug in .22 cal. What should the voltage be? Is there an instruction or a table for the Advancing Sting section?
Thanks Hosien. Let me see if I can find something out for you...
Hi Hosien. This may help: daystate.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DTD-STW-guide.pdf
@@airgunextra many thanks
I almost bought an Alpha Wolf but went with the FX m3 instead because its not electronic
I have three Impacts and they are good but I have to say the Alpha Wolf has the edge on performance. It's also been more reliable (the three Impacts have all leaked). No issues with the electronics. Daystate has been making electronic rifles for 20 odd years so they've got the hang of it...
Even in text i can tell your tongue is too big for your mouth...
Evening, how many shots per fill are you getting for each of the following pls .22 fac, .25 fac and .30 fac?
Hi. Its hard to say because it depends on what power you dial in.
@@airgunextra okay lets say on the highest setting or the setting on your .22 pls
It's just not nice to the eye, looks like lots of bits of the Daystate factory floor screwed together.
I think you should see one in the flesh...
@@airgunextra I'm not really into bull pups, especially not 2300 bull pups...
Would of been better if it was a 12ftlb rifle as lot of “club” shooters are not FAC holders nor do they want to be given the present firearms license application situation and what you have to go through to be granted one.
A BRK Ghost does not have all the complexities of electronics and won 2 bench rest world championships and set a new world record last year. I know where my monies going. But a great review . Thanks . PS A Hawke cap but an MTC scope . Tony Belas won’t be happy.😂😂
Thanks Mark. That would be an issue if we were sponsored by MTC, or Hawke! Thanks for watching.
You probably think TV remotes are too complex as well
Tengo un delta wolf .25 alguien me podria decir q clase de configuracion es la mas adecuada para mi rifle uso jsb 33.95 gr si alguien sabe me podria decir gracias
I see Bullpup airgun designs being influenced by Cricket airguns.
I don't think so.
18.13 gr. that’s a jsb heavy in a different tin ???
I believe Daystate pellets are made by JSB
Wish you were given a sub 12 ft to try as the information can be misleading .The video you did in the past on the delta wolf 😔 it's all about sales l would much rather see an honest review to help as a lot of dealers are not to bothered once they have your money And if you try and contact daystate it's hard work 😔
All my reviews are 100% honest - we don't sell rifles...Hopefully we''l get a 12 ft lbs model to try soon...
Amazing tech Rich, but it is so butt ugly!
I'd like to see a how a 12lbf version would compare in the accuracy stakes to my Huntsman Classic.
A step forward, or just playing to the market?
Great review whatever matey.
Thanks John. I think that in reality it's going to appeal to those for whom tuning, adjusting and tweaking their set up is a major part of the attraction of shooting - extreme bench rest, long range target shooting, that sort of thing.
Absolutely Rich.
Just the way things are going, and nothing wrong with that.
I just appreciate walnut and steel with beautiful lines and feel.
I also have an FX Wildcat which ticks all my boxes, so I’m not totally stuck in the past!!!
Bagaimn saya mendapat air gun
I'll stick to my MK4 thanks.
Fortunately purchase of an Alpha Wolf is not compulsory.
Firmware has been updated making a lot of this video obsolete :)
That's the trouble with videos. They capture a moment in time and this was published nine months ago. I think most of this is still relevant. Perhaps you could tell folks exactly what has changed with the latest firmware update? That would be more helpful...
For that kind of money, I'll buy something that shoots a lot more powerful and bigger projectile. I know everyone has their preference but for me, no air rifle is worth the asking price daystate is asking.
Fortunately purchase is not compulsory...
To expensive for what it is £16/1700 max .
Airgun manufacturers are getting too greedy 💰💰💰
Well you know, purchase is not compulsory and there are plenty of cheaper air rifles out there. Innovation comes at a cost and without it we'd be throwing sticks and stones.
@@airgunextra I disagree at £2500 it’s pure greed but your correct at pointing out there are cheaper and most likely better ones too at around £1780 and a compressor and still won’t reach £2500.
@@pepesempire Is it greedy to want a Porsche when you could buy a Ford? They both do the same thing...
@@airgunextra if they both do the same thing I’d buy a ford
@@pepesempire But there are plenty who'd buy a Porsche (not me btw!). Isn't that the point though?
Forgive me but a gave a dislike. Not for your review ! So why?.....Is this Daystate a Microsoft, an Apple or a Google? Its not a gun. Its a way of making MONEY !!!
Oooouugghhh, a lot of plastic on the backside off the TOTALLLYYY overpriced gun. However, you can play well around with and it looks nice, but 1100-1300 bucks overpriced ... !!!
If you're comparing to a rifle that costs 1100-1300 bucks less, you'd need to compare it to rifles that don't have an integrated chronograph and all the other tune-able features the Alpha Wolf has.
@@airgunextra With the FX chronograph and a new Impact you can tune in the same style. The computerized gimmicks into Alpha Wolf are not more than 1000 bucks worth. I will buy the Alpha, of course, but never for more than 2400. However, also 2400 for an Impact are overpriced.
@@airgunextra you can get a Nate Chrony for 86 bucks.