Hello! New to your channel here, absolutely love your stuff. I was looking into getting this cathedral guitar but, like others said before, couldn't find good videos on them to avoid buyers remorse. So thank you! I'll be looking into your music books as well soon too!
So the only real advantages of extra strings is the extended range which you can get easily with an 8 strings guitar!!! Anyway your guitar sounds fantastic.
Rob, you dont need extra strings to get sympathetic resonances. You simple pulse the correspondent fifth or octave basses when playing a slow passages on single trevels!!! And ... Need to mute less number of strings on six or eight strings guitars.
Hi Rob! I fear I may be late (as I've just seen this) but I've been on eBay and the cathedral website: they don't seem to ship to Australia! Bummer! It sucks being stranded in the antipodes sometimes. I've contacted the seller and awaiting a reply, but I doubt they do; perhaps not worth the extra shipping cost anyway! Any ideas? In other words, do you have a 10 string you want to reluctantly part with? As a lifelong, and onetime professional six string player, I'm attracted to branching out and exploring the possibilities here. Cheers, Mark
Sorry, Mark, I don’t have one for sale. You must be able to find one somewhere. Asturias used to make one, maybe there are some on eBay. All I can do is wish you all the best. Good luck!
@@RobMacKillop1 Hi Rob. Just an update. I have one on the way shipped via USPS to Australia. I have to say, Stephen Bright bent over backwards to help and find the best shipping option. The service with cathedral guitars is next to none for responsiveness, communication and support. Worth mentioning for anyone else having shipping reservations. I'll provide another update once I've received it! Cheers, Mark
@@RobMacKillop1 Hi Rob. Just a brief update. I'm delighted with this guitar! Such great value for the money. It's quite resonant, very well intoned and balanced with a lovely tone. The basses are great!! Anyway, after a month of struggling with finding the right bases (still am, but getting better) with my thumb, I'm managing some Sarabandes from Bach's lute suites, Kapsberger and Couperin quite well! If it wasn't for your review I wouldn't have bought it, so thanks!!
Wow I was surprised to see this. I bought a 7 string guitar from this company in 2016 and in the last few days I've been looking at ther 10 string guitars. I was a little dissapointed that there were so few recordings of them, and then your video pops up! Thanks for the review. I'll probably buy one eventually so I can play Kapsberger without dropping the bass notes.
You’ll enjoy the 10-string, William. They’re such fun instruments to play. BTW, Kapsberger’s first book is for 11 strings, but the 11th can almost always be played an octave higher, so you should be okay. And the 10-string is a LOT easier to play or even just hold than a theorbo.
@@RobMacKillop1 I've been playing through his first book of lute tablature which is for 10 course lute, so I believe it would translate directly to a 10 string in romantic tuning. For the most part it works on 6 string guitar, but there are a few pieces that rely on the lower bass strings. I also saw your video of 10 string guitar in theorbo tuning, I think it works great.
It's awesome to see a 10 string in your hands again. I think the renaissance lute and vihuela music sounds great on those extended range guitars, and this Cathedral has a great tone for it.
Yes, with some adaptations. Renaissance tuning repertoire can be played exactly as written, but the Dm tuning of the baroque lute needs a little adapting here and there.
Very beautiful guitar Rob. And as always beautiful playing, If I were a little younger I would be very tempted to get this guitar although my hands & brain are full with 6 strings. I am going to the web site after this.
Thank you, I'm a harp guitarist and have been interested in 10 string classical instruments. I was nervous about these due to the "low" price compared to others but your review helped to alleviate the pangs of possible buyers remorse! Beautiful playing and that is a lovely instrument 😊
It depends whose perspective you are looking from. A lute player would most likely decry lute music played on a guitar, and guitarists generally think they have a right to playing anything they want. I live in both worlds, sometimes leaning more towards one than the other. A 10-string guitar does not sound like a lute, but sometimes it can sound a little more like a theorbo, which is no bad thing. When I play lute music on the 10-string guitar, I am aware of a lot more available power at my fingertips, more power than I think suits the music, so I tend to hold back a little, whereas on a lute I might be playing out more, projecting strongly. That’s bound to have an effect on articulation. But I also like contemporary classical music, for which there is a lot more for guitar than lute, though more new compositions for lute are coming out every week or so. I really like vihuela music on the 10-string guitar. There is something about the resonance that seems to suite the music. On the other hand, I haven’t liked hearing the music of Weiss being played on a 10-string guitar. His music is so embedded in the unique tuning of the baroque lute, that it would require a 13-string guitar to do it any justice at all, and I am working with a luthier on that. But it will be more like a baroque or very early classical guitar than the modern multi-string guitar, lighter and with much less tension. So, I’m happy to play some lute/vihuela music on the 10-string, but not all, and enjoy its contemporary classical repertoire as well. I hope that goes some way to answering your question! Cheers, Rob
Wow Rob! You're "resonating!" 10! I've been listening to your Paganini recital you posted and am about to purchase that Chanterelle edition. So Thank you for the music and inspiration!
Er…excuse me Mr. MacKillop, your muse is showing (and a little larceny). (I love it when you release the poetic Scotsman). Thanks for this. I didn’t know this company existed. I missed my last chance at an affordable ten string. I didn’t know it existed until it was unavailable. Dual truss rods you say? I never thought I would be a fan , but I wouldn’t buy a guitar without a truss rod now. In minutes one can adjust for any tension strings. Being able to tweak bass and treble sides could save hours of screwing around with such a wide fretboard . Good stuff👍
I would be surprised if you did. Music from the 17th century got swamped by the jigs and reels that appeared in the 19th and 20th century. I personally find the earlier stuff more subtle and more interesting. That said, I’m sure you’ll hear a lot of good music. Best wishes for your trip!
I made a typo with the web address. It should be www.cathedralguitar.com
Hello! New to your channel here, absolutely love your stuff. I was looking into getting this cathedral guitar but, like others said before, couldn't find good videos on them to avoid buyers remorse. So thank you! I'll be looking into your music books as well soon too!
Good. I'm pleased to be useful for once 🙂
So the only real advantages of extra strings is the extended range which you can get easily with an 8 strings guitar!!! Anyway your guitar sounds fantastic.
Wonderful Rob, ❤️ love that picture behind you too 😊❤❤
I thought you might! 😂❤️
Bravo! 👏👏👏👏👏
Rob, you dont need extra strings to get sympathetic resonances. You simple pulse the correspondent fifth or octave basses when playing a slow passages on single trevels!!! And ... Need to mute less number of strings on six or eight strings guitars.
Good Morning dear Rob, Thank You for sweet influence to my day. Love Always
Thank you, WAAO! Best wishes to you.
Hi Rob! I fear I may be late (as I've just seen this) but I've been on eBay and the cathedral website: they don't seem to ship to Australia! Bummer! It sucks being stranded in the antipodes sometimes. I've contacted the seller and awaiting a reply, but I doubt they do; perhaps not worth the extra shipping cost anyway! Any ideas? In other words, do you have a 10 string you want to reluctantly part with?
As a lifelong, and onetime professional six string player, I'm attracted to branching out and exploring the possibilities here.
Cheers,
Mark
Sorry, Mark, I don’t have one for sale. You must be able to find one somewhere. Asturias used to make one, maybe there are some on eBay. All I can do is wish you all the best. Good luck!
@@RobMacKillop1 Hi Rob. Just an update. I have one on the way shipped via USPS to Australia. I have to say, Stephen Bright bent over backwards to help and find the best shipping option. The service with cathedral guitars is next to none for responsiveness, communication and support. Worth mentioning for anyone else having shipping reservations. I'll provide another update once I've received it! Cheers, Mark
@@shatsbird Stephen is the best salesman I’ve encountered. Enjoy your guitar!
@@RobMacKillop1 Hi Rob. Just a brief update. I'm delighted with this guitar! Such great value for the money. It's quite resonant, very well intoned and balanced with a lovely tone. The basses are great!! Anyway, after a month of struggling with finding the right bases (still am, but getting better) with my thumb, I'm managing some Sarabandes from Bach's lute suites, Kapsberger and Couperin quite well!
If it wasn't for your review I wouldn't have bought it, so thanks!!
@@shatsbird Good to know! I’m pleased you are happy! Rob
Wow I was surprised to see this. I bought a 7 string guitar from this company in 2016 and in the last few days I've been looking at ther 10 string guitars. I was a little dissapointed that there were so few recordings of them, and then your video pops up! Thanks for the review. I'll probably buy one eventually so I can play Kapsberger without dropping the bass notes.
You’ll enjoy the 10-string, William. They’re such fun instruments to play. BTW, Kapsberger’s first book is for 11 strings, but the 11th can almost always be played an octave higher, so you should be okay. And the 10-string is a LOT easier to play or even just hold than a theorbo.
@@RobMacKillop1 I've been playing through his first book of lute tablature which is for 10 course lute, so I believe it would translate directly to a 10 string in romantic tuning. For the most part it works on 6 string guitar, but there are a few pieces that rely on the lower bass strings. I also saw your video of 10 string guitar in theorbo tuning, I think it works great.
You can play actually Kapsberger's theorbo masterpiece, Toccata Arpeggiata, directly from the original TAB on a 10-string, and not drop a single note.
It's awesome to see a 10 string in your hands again. I think the renaissance lute and vihuela music sounds great on those extended range guitars, and this Cathedral has a great tone for it.
Agreed! :-)
Beautiful instrument and sound !
Thanks!! Its posible to play french baroque transcriptions?
Yes, with some adaptations. Renaissance tuning repertoire can be played exactly as written, but the Dm tuning of the baroque lute needs a little adapting here and there.
Beautiful instrument and beautiful playing
Cheers, John. I’m not on commission, but can happily say it’s a great guitar for the price.
Thanks for this review. What are the 4 extra bass strings? Also Daddario (which calibers?)
Basses: DCBA. You’ll find the answer to your questions on the Cathedral.com website. Read everything on it.
Beautiful playing and it's obvious you really like the instrument, but I would have liked to hear your opinion of its sound/tone.
Well, I’m not giving it back…
Very beautiful guitar Rob. And as always beautiful playing, If I were a little younger I would be very tempted to get this guitar although my hands & brain are full with 6 strings. I am going to the web site after this.
Cheers, Edward. Really, it doesn’t take long to get used to the extra strings, which are almost always played as open strings.
Thank you, I'm a harp guitarist and have been interested in 10 string classical instruments. I was nervous about these due to the "low" price compared to others but your review helped to alleviate the pangs of possible buyers remorse! Beautiful playing and that is a lovely instrument 😊
Cheers, Bob. I can only say I’m enjoying mine. 😎
I thought I was bad for buying/selling guitars ! Great stuff, my brain can’t cope with that many strings
It's not so hard, believe me. If I can do, you certainly can. I could lend you one, if you want, as currently I have two!
@@RobMacKillop1 thanks for the offer , maybe one day.
Any general considerations on 10 string guitar vs some kind of lute? Is the guitar more versatile and/or how does it compare when playing lute music?
It depends whose perspective you are looking from. A lute player would most likely decry lute music played on a guitar, and guitarists generally think they have a right to playing anything they want. I live in both worlds, sometimes leaning more towards one than the other. A 10-string guitar does not sound like a lute, but sometimes it can sound a little more like a theorbo, which is no bad thing. When I play lute music on the 10-string guitar, I am aware of a lot more available power at my fingertips, more power than I think suits the music, so I tend to hold back a little, whereas on a lute I might be playing out more, projecting strongly. That’s bound to have an effect on articulation. But I also like contemporary classical music, for which there is a lot more for guitar than lute, though more new compositions for lute are coming out every week or so. I really like vihuela music on the 10-string guitar. There is something about the resonance that seems to suite the music. On the other hand, I haven’t liked hearing the music of Weiss being played on a 10-string guitar. His music is so embedded in the unique tuning of the baroque lute, that it would require a 13-string guitar to do it any justice at all, and I am working with a luthier on that. But it will be more like a baroque or very early classical guitar than the modern multi-string guitar, lighter and with much less tension. So, I’m happy to play some lute/vihuela music on the 10-string, but not all, and enjoy its contemporary classical repertoire as well. I hope that goes some way to answering your question! Cheers, Rob
Wow Rob! You're "resonating!" 10!
I've been listening to your Paganini recital you posted and am about to purchase that Chanterelle edition. So Thank you for the music and inspiration!
Cheers, Fred. Best wishes for the Paganini!
Er…excuse me Mr. MacKillop, your muse is showing (and a little larceny). (I love it when you release the poetic Scotsman).
Thanks for this. I didn’t know this company existed. I missed my last chance at an affordable ten string. I didn’t know it existed until it was unavailable.
Dual truss rods you say? I never thought I would be a fan , but I wouldn’t buy a guitar without a truss rod now. In minutes one can adjust for any tension strings. Being able to tweak bass and treble sides could save hours of screwing around with such a wide fretboard . Good stuff👍
Yes, it’s well thought-out. Great value for the price. I’ve now kept this one, and sold the other.
WoW! Great sound and song. I'm off to Scotland this summer so I might hear stuff like that …. I hope
I would be surprised if you did. Music from the 17th century got swamped by the jigs and reels that appeared in the 19th and 20th century. I personally find the earlier stuff more subtle and more interesting. That said, I’m sure you’ll hear a lot of good music. Best wishes for your trip!