I Combo Off and Unravel a Conspiracy | Much Abrew
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Is the earth flat? Did we really land on the moon? Who killed JFK? Let's combo off and unravel some conspiracies!
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I wonder if that brothershood's end was to lull you into a false sense of security "one mana up what can they do"
Might be
They had 8 cards in hand and didn't want to waste a card discarding it at the end of turn! It makes a little more sense given the fact that they had Spell Pierce as interaction
And there's really only one deck playing kaito
I love how Seth has worn his viewers down into accepting the card is called Brothershood End.
I’m confused why didn’t he reenact the crime when the opponent tapped out for quick study
"opponent's clock is increasing"
Hey opponent, nice clock
I laughed so hard when I realized the plan was mill. Who needs the 7/7 flying lifelinker when you can just mill
Sign of a spicy brew: “We’ve got Atraxa but that’s the boring option”
"Nothing they have stops our combo" - proceeds to stare down a farewell lol
I love playing against Conspiracy when I drop a turn 2 Cauldron, the number of times they play it through uptill the point they target with Reenact and I exile their Breach.... surprisingly high.
Scoop follows pretty quickly after.
Farewell stops everything fun.
@@MTGGoldfish It is indeed a party pooper.
at 6:05 you could've reenact the crimed atraxa into play at instant speed
Came here to point out this exact play
Yeah he was too focused on casting it on the breach the next turn but against a control player it’s always better to act when they’re completely tapped out as we saw.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's mentally screaming "what're you doing?!" on that one haha
The hilarious part is that literally seconds later he said "how do we play around a counter?"
Lol I was thinking the same thing
Since most of the time Seth (or your opp) is always ALSO milling out their own deck as well as yours, as you can see from the game play, run "Turn the Earth" to counter this combo flashing it back on your upkeep to draw anything then pass back to opp to watch them die to their own mill.
Also in black you can run "Cease" or "Blood Pack" to instant speed make Opp draw a card for 2 or 3 mana respectively plus Cease works as grave hate as well.
"The End" also works just make sure to exile a card that is in hand so it forces them to draw a card that they don't have in library lol
I love how Seth memed so much that he started to call Conspiracy Unraveler "Conspiracy Theorist".
Kind of funny that there was another actual card called Conspiracy Theorist in Strixhaven IIRC.
We watched Seth's ability to read card names degrade in real-time this episode.
Lol, that's a card too.
This is such a cool deck. I like the idea of removing a go for the throat for a bitter triumph to deal with planeswalkers since you can always beseech it up in a pinch.
Yeah, plus discarding can be an upside in this deck. Seems like a good idea.
A "locked room" case (in this instance, the locked hothouse) is generally a case where a murder or crime took place within a locked room, with no signs of entry or exit. An example would be a group of people looking for someone that's gone missing, coming upon a door locked from the inside, and upon breaking down the door they find that person alone and dead - but with no signs that the room had been entered, and again, the door being locked from the inside. I don't know how many occur in more mainstream stories - I'm sure Sherlock Holmes has likely dealt with one or two - but I know they come up a couple times in the Danganronpa series (I think it's more than once, but it's definitely at least once in the first game).
So yeah, funnily enough The Case of the Locked Hothouse is probably a fairly serious case. 😂
I thought it was locking someone in the very hot hothouse till they died of heatstroke tbh
Yes, players only get priority during cleanup if a trigger is put on the stack as a result, like with Gitrog Monster
We've had one Cleanup step, yes, but what about second Cleanup?
Need to find an instant speed "Targer player draws" card to play if this deck becomes popular. Uno reverse on upkeep
Many use a copy of Jace the Perfected Mind as a finisher which makes it one-sided
Ancestral Recall reprint when??
love the twilight zone into, classy.
The domain player on the second match: "Oooooh I see now"
if anyone is interested, a cool piece of tech i found as hate for this matchup is Cease // Desist, both as a piece of instant speed targeted graveyard hate (if you're boring) OR as the cheapest (theres one other one that's 3 mana) card in standard that makes target player draw a card at instant speed, so you can kill them after they've milled both players out
6:03 …Bruh, could’ve Reenacted while they were tapped out
7:37 he could've used Kaito to make a token and then cast the Beseech The Mirror with the bargain cost into Reenact The Crime here
He'd have to do it over two turns, as he wouldn't have a good reenact target without upticking Kaito.
I can’t believe it doesn’t have hexproof or even ward with that art
The best part of this deck is just having graveyard hate and watching this deck and the aftermath analyst deck both instaconcede when you drop it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think game 1 after the opponent played quintorius you could have used kaito to make a token, which you could have used to bargain beseech the mirror for reenact the crime and combo'd off
Collector’s Vault is one of my favorite cards from 2023. Such a simple effect for a great rate.
Such a sick deck. Normally don't like combo, but this is just too cool.
Instant goosebumps from The Twilight Zone sound
I loved the intro!
I loved this episode I agree that it could have been a whole season. I think it will be interesting to see what they do with Maddie going forward.
I love how soon enough conspiracy unraveller became conspiracy theorist
13:13 "ah-twara" as Otawara is crazy. 💀
Felt so proud lucking into a victory against this deck yesterday.
Unraveler milled my goblin deck and himself to 0 cards with the combo, but I'd gotten him down to 2 life. Moved to full control, untap, upkeep, lightning helix, victory.
Without the sideboard and without the rare lands, this deck is 15 mythics and 8 rares, which is a pretty easy amount to get to for Bo1 with a manabase that doesn't provide quite as much consistency/versatility.
I've been climbing the ladder with a "fair" Conspiracy Unraveler deck with Indomitable Creativity, Magma Opus, Lorien Revealed, and Seagate Restoration, etc and it's some of the most fun I've had on Arena in a long time.
I best response is to main blood pact as your draw package, then you have a card which is functionally useful outside this match up and also you can cast it in response to the mill to take a win. 😊
An even funnier idea to me rather than running grave hate in the sideboard, force a draw from your opponent 😂
I understand the whiffing on land, used a griselbrand to draw for land and got no lands twice
Talking Graveyard hate spells, my go-tos are Soulless Jailer and sneaky Rotten Reunion
Obviously you don't want to play the Jailler in this deck, but it's great against this deck and also Discover and Pia Nalaar
There are couple of instant graveyard exile spells that could interrupt this or instant shuffle back cards, so you deck y-self :)
I've been messing around with the mono blue artifact ninja deck and the UG artifact aggro decks that play Glyph, Spyglass Siren, Filched Falcon, etc. I've been running main deck Hearses instead of the boat/hoverbikes, and they actually seem really good in the meta right now. They're only actually bad against the Boros aggro deck, since a big beater that survives wraths is, at least, decent vs. Lands and control decks.
Edit: this crime deck isn't super common but Roots decks are. And the Djinn decks still see some play in the UW version. Plus, there is a lot of good cards like Memory Deluge in control, Dennick in Esper Legends, Mosswood in BG midrange variants, etc.
@@derekcline950 Haven't seen roots much lately. Tbh if you don't hit 2 roots in top 10/15 the deck with it's 1/1 is a complete trash.
I’ve been boarding Cease//Desist more to try to have some more disruption with the rise in popularity of this combo
@@michaelburt9888 Yep that's one of those.
I really want to see someone wait through this entire combo, wait for your end step, and then do something that makes *you* draw so you deck out first. It'd be hilarious to see.
8:10 I think what happened is that he got screwed by the autotapper. He had one card in hand that was 1 mana, either R or W, but he also had a spell pierce. He wanted to keep up the spell pierce, but MTG Arena decided he'd be better off with whatever 1 mana R or W spell he had in hand. Possibly it was even another Light Up the Night.
I wonder if its worth to have a one or two copies of myrel, shield of argive in the sideboard against counters and onboard hatepieces. You can get it of beseech...
hey guys! happy to notice im not the only one that is having troubles with the text box in the stack. does anyone know if this is fixable?
thanks!
6:02 perfect time to have cast reenact the crime
You can use kito to make a token, then use it for the bargain cost of beseech the mirror 😅
I play an ulamog version of this in pioneer and it's sweet, will be my rcq deck going into the next format change. Its like doomwakes deck but i tweaked it to fit its mainboard issues against more aggro decks. Dropping game 1 to aggro with it is way too punishing to pray for sideboard cards game 2/3. He also had mana consistency issues with pathways which i cut and im consistently entering games on turn 4.
I've been playing this deck for so long now since watching cgb play it. It's my favorite deck since scute swarm insanity lol
I play less interaction, but play spell pierce for protection and to prevent some decks from going as fast.
It's so much fun. Expect to timeout a bunch as you're learning the lines. Easy to get bad draws though since you need all three pieces even with so much redundancy
T3 discard the sphinx, turn 4 breach ideally
Funny thing is I found a near identical list and didn’t realize the combo ( at the time the list I had was 3 ravelers) and took out the skaab from the list
I love how once they tapped down playing Quin rather than making a token with Kitoe and sacing the token to beseech, seth decided to loot and cast beseech to get a breach rather than casting breach off renact off of beseech.
Game one is misplay after misplay
Any reason why the cycling dinos aren’t used to get lands and get them back with breach? and maybe Bitter Triumph instead of throat?
Ive never seen a video the moment its dropped before
34:33 you could go off discarding atraxa to vault
Dude, conspiracy unraveler is absolutely insane in my unesh deck. It went from good to great with his include.
He’s like if omniscience and underworld breach had a fucked up sewer baby.
And the fact!!! That unesh dumps more stuff in the yard to fuel the collect evidence cost??? Insane. It’s been gg every time I’ve resolved those two
Look behind... The Scary Door
Seth: "if you haven't seen this deck, it's essentially a combo deck in standard, which is really rare"
*Every standard ladder player:* wut
Maybe it didn't explain that well, I was meaning that we don't have combo decks in Standard very often, not that no one knew this deck.
@@MTGGoldfish its more that I got into mythic using both Nissa landfall combo and Soul Cauldron Outrageous Robbery.
Though to be fair the algorithm tends to pair you against what you're soft to it seems like.
It's "theoretically" possible to turn 1, mill Kami of Whispered Hopes and Sleep-Cursed Faerie with Otherworldly Gaze, turn 2 play Likeness Looter, turn 3 drop Soul Cauldron turn Looter into Sleep-Cursed and exile Kami with Soul Cauldron producing infinite mana and Outrageous Robbery their entire deck on the spot.
I love how it's a deck that needs 4 untapped mana turn four and 3 of that of a single color, and he's still running 24 lands. Watched as he lost repeatedly to mana screws and tbh those were deserved.
boarded window in the sideboard!? that's a card i wouldn't expect to see play anywhere!
I see twilight zone, I click, I like and I watch!!!
add 2 copies of ovika and all your spells make hasty 1/1 goblins. means farewell or being behind on tempo/board state doesnt matter as you can usually cycle throug hthe deck and make like 45 hasty 1/1's
BESEECH THE MULTIVERSE
Anyone else miss when Seth played Modern/Legacy
Am I missing something or in that last game l9ss couldn't he have gotten reenact the crime instead of kido and actually done things
add flotsam and jetsam it would be so good
ThAt intro tho!
To get a window when you discard to handsize, you need a card like Slogurk in standard. In historic there are the best options since you have madness cards and Calim, which synergize more with the overall strategy (especially the blue instant with madness). Also, I feel there's an argument to include the enigma jewel: jewel into vault turns this deck from a turn 4 combo to a turn 3 combo (it also works in part with celestus since the ability effectively costs just 1, and if it triggers on its own during opponent's upkeep you can still cast reenact the crime during endstep since it's an instant)
Ehat about jetsam? Can reuse any card
What*
It only hits your opponent's graveyard
@@maddoxbundy4462 yeah right dunno why i was thinking it was the same as breach
"We landed on the moon is a conspiracy theory." I love how based seth is in passing without even trying lmao
That first game when the opponent tapped out and seth could have reanacted the Atraxia... not watched the rest of the video yet, he does know it's an instant speed spell, right? Edit: He mentions it in the next game :D
Hi Seth. NoobTube here. Given that it has already been a day since release of this video, I don't know if you will see this, but I will post it anyways. I recently created a new deck that I am trying out in Timeless MTGA. I think you would really enjoy this deck. It is a ponza deck that uses grinning ingus + birgi as a wincon. Decklist
Decklist:
4x Birgi, God of Storytelling
1x Blood Crypt
4x Blood Moon
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Deathrite Shaman
3x Delighted Halfling
1x Devilish Valet
1x Elder Gargaroth
4x Eldritch Evolution
2x Forest
4x Gamble
3x Gilded Goose
3x Grapeshot
4x Grinning Ignus
4x Impact Tremors
2x Lightning Bolt
2x Mountain
3x Stomping Ground
2x Veil of Summer
3x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
Sideboard:
2x Go for the Throat (BRO)
2x Haywire Mite (BRO)
3x Leyline of the Void (WOT)
2x Pithing Needle (RVR)
2x The One Ring (LTR)
3x The Stone Brain (BRO)
1x Veil of Summer (SLD)
for 3 mana there is much better than kaito => the great door let's you discard at instant speed which makes it easier to combo against counter spells and graveyard hate (Hearse, Cauldron, Scragorger etc...)
How the hell is he playing Boarded Window in his sideboard???
unraveling salt
Tried the deck, was really fun but.... this meta is either aggro or counter. soo many blue decks that i just dont want to play. Counters really should get a nerf - like limit on them based on mana or can only be used based on other conditions or a land to protect more then just a creature- cause playing around counters sometimes leads to never playing a single card...
Video #7 trying to get Seth to pronounce Takenuma correctly
i play dimir crime in paper, its so fun :D
Are there any cards to force people to draw a card lol
It's hard to take these matches as proof of the deck's power when your opponents all played like they were straight out of bronze.
I feel like it has 2 to many atrwxas
what format is this? did i miss it?
It's standard
Is it weird that i think this could work in Legacy in a reanimator/tinfin core?
A 4 mana reanimate that also requires you to jump through hoops?
Yes, it's weird that you think this is remotely playable in Legacy
@@rekenner the conspiracy unraveler part, not how he's getting it out. That would literally be the part of using the rest of the core.
@@wraith.ferron okay but
Why reanimate something that doesn't win the game, when you can reanimate something that does?
If the first fatty hits the board, reanimator typically wins, so what does Conspiracy Unraveler add? And having 10 CMC of evidence to collect in reanimator is nontrivial... unless you already have a better fatty in your yard...
@rekenner I wrote a long response, and I don't know if TH-cam ate it, or if links are just banned on this channel, but I was mentioning reanimator, and more specifically tinfins for a reason. Tinfins wants to drop Griselbrand with Goryo's Vengeance or Shallow Grave, gain life, draw 21,and try to combo, either with further reanimation, or Doomsday package, or something else, depending on the variation. In other words, it'll have fodder for the grave, and the ability for follow-up, or, in the case of the Doomsday package, would be able to use it as a way to keep FoWs active at low life and without needing to need to pitch the extra draw you want to use for comboing.
I'm not saying it's a great idea, but it's potentially worth testing.
How is it possible that Seth's pronunciation of Ottawara is getting worse? He started with "Ottawa" then said it right for a while and now it's "O-twar-a"?
Isn’t graveyard hate the main reason this couldn’t be the “best” deck in the meta?
My agro mono red beats this deck anytime. Try me set. I will wheel fortune you
“maybe people just dont know how good this deck is”
Thanks, seth. Now to find somewhere to jam in an answer to yet another meta deck.
We did it guys, we broke breach the multiverse
Bad players don't have graveyard hate cards
Is seth pronouncing card names intenionally wrong?
Day 2 of a request : Persuasive Interrogators. Using Bartolome and or cutthroat centurion. Create clues and sac 5 with interrogators out for the win!
New set preview when? When MTGPreviews has some of them.
Next Tuesday they start I think
@@jorritdriessen5728 oh really? We shall see 👀 😏 😌 😉 😎 😊 👀
I enjoyed playing this deck as a legit criminal, now everyone is gonna know about it.
huh. a card that reduces mana value to 0 can be broken? shocker.
In one of those games you had infinite combo if you just activated the vault ....
It's "oh-to-wa-ra" not "oh-twa-ra"
Have u ever thought about using conspiracy unraveller in a combo deck?
I feel like this deck has replaced Domain Ramp as the deck for assholes in Standard lmao
This isn't a brew considering it's a highly played deck....
Beseech doesn't seem to be the main varient though. This one looks way more susceptible to aggro strats because it doesn't include virtue of persistence or any Rona to chump while churning through the deck.
Still...it's one card that's different, oh well. It's the deck as a whole
8:30 weird to see someone scoop for literally no reason than to rage about their misplays...
Really wish you didn't do this, the f'ng games take 30 minutes because of all the god damn triggers, and 90% of the win con is just looping breech in an *INSUFFERABLE* game.. It's a deck that pretends to do stuff then just stalls until it can breech until both decks are empty and they pass.. Yet another atraxa control deck you have to roll your eyes and clear your schedule for in this _great time_ of magic..
I see you. I see that you present this as a new deck when it's just another Retrace the Crime + Breach the Multiverse + Atraxa deck. Got to have content, right?
something about Seth just makes me dislike him. sorry.
That's okay, I still love you :)
this standard format feels like one of the more welcoming ones for combo decks than I can remember in recent history
Ignoring broken khaladesh saheeli, I can't remember any previous combo decks since like
mirrodin besieged.
3:45
Oh boy I can't wait for this deck to lose to the one crazy guy out there who is running Blood Pact and/or Cease // Desist