Just bought mine about 800 miles ago. Just love this bike. Looks great, super comfortable suspension and handles great. Looks like a super bike rides like a comfort bike.
Why did you pick this over say the CBR500R (I can't keep track of all the R's in Honda's naming monikers) but I'm referring to the full-fairing, sport looking, comfortable riding 500cc bike? _Okay, now I understand the moniker_ ;) It's been a year, still enjoying the bike?
@@TheRoadTaken The CBR500R is only like high 40 something horsepower while the CBR650F is like almost twice that at 80 something. You can search for the exact numbers..... so yeah, get the CBR650F. I would between the two, unless you can pick up a 500 for way way less than the 650, I would fork out a little more if I can find a 650 at a good price. Also the 500 is a 2 cylinder motor whereas the 650 is 4 cylinder.
Adam Waleed you are the best reviewer on the interwebs. the way you weave stats into conversation with knowledge and not showing off - "keeping track of your mileage with this 4.6 gallon fuel tank" .. your analysis of disk brakes mounted to the forks was great i'll need to listen to that again. and watching your track ride of the Kawa 400 was thrilling. Thanks Adam, keep up the great work!~
Have this new cbr650f since april, did 6k miles since and everytime I ride this beauty it fascinates me how smooth and friendly she is. Enough power for no unwanted surprises and it just pulls from every rpm range. Two things I did after about 3k miles, changed the levers to adjustable, stock are pretty bad, clutch grabs too far and changed the tires to bridgestone battlax s21’s and the bike showed it’s true colors, the lean response improved by far and these tires boost self confidence and I simply rode and leaned to the edges without any worries unlike those shitty d222 which gave me a few bad moments. Overall a very nice bike which I tend to keep for a few years at least.
Yeah those D222's aren't the best - they performed well during our test loop - but we were on nice abrasive pavement. I would ditch those things right away too.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Like most things, simple enhancements can net a more enjoyable motorcycle. Thanks for sharing your experience and Ride Red!
I love my Bstone s21's as well. I am a big fan of the cbr650F. I think it would be nice to have a 1000cc or larger CBRxF with hard bags (similar to the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 LT). However, I realize there is no demand.
IDK about that - seems like those sport-sport-touring bikes are a neat niche. The KTM variation is awesome and the Kawasaki is pretty good too. Would be great if Honda made one featuring its CBR1000RR engine - that thing would be PERFECT for sport-touring.
My friend who is older and a dealer bought one and did not like the vibration but the naked bike may be smoother without the bodywork acting as a vibration transmitter. I did ride the CBR600F2 and F3 in the 90s and the vibes did not bother me at all. I really like both of these bikes. Had a 919 and several Honda Nighthawks, a Yamaha FZ1 and a Kaw ZR750. I like inlines too.
I have the 2016 Honda CBR650F with power commander , two brothers Tarmac full exhaust system. I got it new and already has 8400 miles. I love the motorcycle myself
Great video. Really considering this bike after owning a GSXR600 for 3yrs I want something more comfortable to ride around town like you had mentioned.
I got my CBR650F brand new in 2016. I love the motorcycle and I already did some modifications that are need it like the Two Brothers Tarmac full exhaust and a power commander. I have 8500 miles on it with no issues. Even if I get another bike I plan to keep this bike
Almost all the makes of this class, (especially Yamaha since 2011) already have a gear indicator factory installed. I personally find Honda CBR650F extremely appealing and very attractive, however with no gear indicator it makes my fellow riders when they upgrade or look for something else, turn towards Kawasaki Ninja 650 that has gear display since last year. Simple thing and very practical, but Honda creators seem to have a problem with that. It has been for years already.
VanClaaude you dont really need a gear indicator. And once you know your bike you should be able to tell wich gear you are in by looking at speed and rpm.
I have been riding since I was 14. Small German Simson first, 1 cylinder, 4 gears, upgraded to Jawa 250cc still 4 gears (1982) then MZ250 naked Police bike 5 gears 1984-85. Then Yamaha Drag star 5 gears. Never thought twice. But since I've been riding Honda Sports 500 and higher with 6 gears, I think they should keep up with technology. I doesn't matter to me, although I've never been able to tell by rpm's (rather by speed) - I can ride any bike without it. It does help however, if you have it. Quick look at your panel and you don't have to guess. Therefore, Yamaha R6 and Kawasaki Ninja sells better Down-under.
In isolation, I'm sure it's a perfectly competent motorcycle and would last a very long time with regular maintenance. Trouble is, for the price and weight of the bike you have other stuff so close by like the Z900, GSX-S750, FZ-09. Or less expensive you have stuff that's nearly as competitive such as FZ-07, SV650, Z650. I think the price and weight is too high. I bought a Z900 (non-abs) out the door, tax and fees all in for under $8600. 125 hp, 73 torque and butter smooth engine. It's within 10 pounds and $550 of the CB and also gets 43 mpg after fully broken in. I don't know how well the CB650F will sell.
CB650F vs Z900 - I agree, no contest. CBR 650F... if you put on a bit taller windscreen, you can use it as a fun bike + for light touring (2 up, side cases). Z900 is just a fun bike, I don't think it can be used for any other purpose.
Thanks for the great review. There seems to be very little reviews of the Cb650f and cbr650f, not sure why as they seem to be amazing mid sized bikes. Have pretty much decided that this will be my next bike over the MT07 & z650. Seems a more 'mature' choice and I like the smooth delivery of the inline four.
Hi Jack - we too classify it as a more "mature" choice. Nice word choice. Yeah, don't get us wrong we love all engine configurations, but we always gravitate to the well-rounded performance of a I4.
I really like the cbr. But i'd never buy it. It kinda falls between categories. It's not in the realm of the Suzuki sv650 and the Kawa 650. But it's not powerful enough to play with the GSXS750 or the new Triumph Street Triple. I'd like Honda to add 100 cc's to that engine and they'd have a middle weight to be reckoned with.
The CBR is as nimble in the city as the CB. Using the narrower bars just takes a tiny tad of skill. The narrower bars are actually better for filtering between queues, On the highway it's even better than the CB. Also a plus for conservative riders - no gimmicks with display or on the overall techy side at all. Just has ABS - and that's kinda useful tho. Gear indicators are for nincompoops. Seriously. Temp gauge would be nice but runs without one as well.
Good vid, to move to the next level I would suggest a small segment off the bike. Show the fitment with you and a smaller rider for comparison and talk about some of the hard points: brakes, suspension, wheels and so on. Other than that, great job.
Awesome man - valid point and a worthy critique. Do to the nature of these rides, there isn't a whole lot of time to shoot video -- but your comments are good food for thought...
Hi Adam, Great timing in this review as I just went to check out the 2018 model at a local dealer. I’m pretty much sold on it, just not which year. Do you know which year they first introduced the LED headlight? Like others, I was disappointed to see that Honda did not update the gauges or make other major changes for 2018 so I’m now willing to go back a few years to buy a used CBR650F. Any major differences or updates you can think of that are only present on the 2018 model? Thank you in advance and keep up the great work! 👍
What's up Leonard - the LED headlamp is new for this year, 2018. I cover the specific changes/tweaks and upgrades in the written review? I encourage you to give it a read: www.ridersdomain.com/magazine/motorcycles/reviews/2018-honda-cb650f-cbr650f-first-test-review/ Also, fyi, the link to these things is always in our video description. If I wanted to Ride Red, I would seek a used model. American Honda began importing these things for MY2014 so you can start your shopping there.
Great article! On paper, it really doesn’t seem like there are major differences between the years so I think I will try to find a clean, used one. Thank you for your time!
The ninja 650 is like 40lbs lighter, Honda is too heavy, I was out the door for 6300 on a ninja. I did spend $660 upgrading the front with new springs and a valve kit. It totally transforms the ninja to a fast bike.
Adam just 3 days back Honda launched the 650f here in India for 730000rs (11220 USD) around the same as 797 Monster. I want to ask how is the vibrations compared to its rivals? are they so much that they irritates the rider? as I am planning to use it mostly as a sports tourer for long 600 mile journeys. will add commuting and some trackdays too. Does it qualify as a " Do it all" machine for that price ?
There is more vibration than there should be IMOP. You gotta remember though that this is an older engine design - so it's going to have some vibes. This machine certainly qualifies as "do it all".
by older, that's brand new from ground up design from 2014 older. it does not have a balancer shaft so 3500 bizzes the fairing and 6500 buzzes the bars. replacing the grips help and the 1st service help with this.
The vibes are only in certain areas and they are very minor. FFS every bike has some vibes did you know a engine explodes petrol ? And that's underneath your bum very close to you?
Good review, thanks Adam. I got the CBR500R 2 months ago, putting lots of miles on it already, but it didn't take long for me to start thinking I'd like more power, even though the 500 is pretty damn fast considering its hp, but it is a fabulous city machine though. I'd like the hp at higher speeds and a machine that strains less at them and know the 650 would deliver that in spades. Wonder how long before I'll do the trade-in, probably next spring now as winter will be here soon in Ontario.
Sweet - thanks for sharing your experience. Gotta be getting cold up there? Haha - yeah, it's nice having two extra cylinders beneath you... Really give your bike more lung capacity and acceleration. If you enjoy your 500R, but want some extra muscle, this 650F duo seems like a logical direction to go.
Actually Adam, we've had an amazing fall. I've ridden thousands of kilometers and rode about 100 miles on the 22nd, sunday, and it must have been at least 24C. Also, my very first passenger, my new girlfriend, and I think she enjoyed it. I know I sure loved having her on the back. lol Seriously though, I can see the CBR650F in next year's future. Personally, I can't see why I'd ever need the extra HP of a litre bike. The 650 has over 30HP more than the 500, so even if it's about 40 pounds heavier it's going to be a lot faster than mine.
Hey man, looking back to your experience with the 500r - do you regret getting the 500r first instead of getting a 650f right from the get go? See it has been a while since I made my drivers license on the bike, but now Im seriously considering to finally get my first bike next spring. Got the same choice as you had - beginner friendly 500r or 650f right away. Id like to start modest, mostly for safety reasons cause you can learn easier and faster on a smaller bike in my opinion. you can test your limits on a 500 better, cause mistakes are more likely to be forgiven there. however, a lot of people claim that the 650f is suitable for absolute beginners too, and I tend towards the 650f. I do not want to regret my purchase after 2 months realizing I have grown out of the 500r + the 500r is too small for my height. have you arleady traded your bike for the 650f? thx and safe ride!
Hey omega. I do love the 500 as there are so many great things about it. Love the seat height, which is pretty low and super comfortable when stopped at lights. It is really fast for a 49 hp machine and there aren't many cars around that could match you taking off. It's fairly light at around 430 pounds, and due to it being a lower center of gravity, it handles beautifully when cornering. It gets ridiculous gas mileage too with only the 2 cylinders. The 650 is about 40 pounds heavier, something to take into account but it also has a much nicer seat, especially for a rider. The 500's passenger seat is really small and not comfortable if that is part of your deal.The 500 can do the highways speeds, but I found it was towards a bit of a strain as opposed to thinking it was very comfortable at that speed. Regarding the 650, it has about 30+ more hp, a significant amount, and I know it will deal with highways speeds easily. I like that it torques well in the city at lower rpms, as opposed to the 500 which needs more rpm and doesn't lug well at all at low rpms. I think if you at all at ease with riding, I would go with the 650 because I know for myself, after about a month, I was wishing for more speed, especially, as I said, at the higher speeds. Acceleration on the 500 is not an issue, but the 650 would be significantly faster at that too. I still have my 500, but next spring, fully expect to trade it in or do a consignment thing to get the CBR650F.
hey, thx for assessment, man! It is always nice to get some info 1st hand. So far, most people have told me that if you aint crazy on the throttle, even beginner can handle the cbr 650f. For me, the turning point was when I took a seat on the bikes first time. Initially, I was going for the 500r, but since I am 6´2 tall, it does not only look awkward, but also feels a bit uncomfortable sitting on the 500r cause I cant stretch out my legs on the ground when I stand still. After that I took a seat on the 650 just for fun and it felt immediately a lot more comfortable. I think having a good first impressions is important, thats why Im going with the 650. Many thanks, take care!
Question for you in comparison to the Honda CBR650F vs CB650F. I am assuming both motorcycles have what you call semi upright seating vs having to round you’re back over like when a person is driving a CB600RR is that correct ? Also from what I could tell the CBR650F & CB650F have the identical engine far as horsepower and torque is concerned is that true ? From what I could see they both have 90 hp and 47 pounds of torque and Max out between 140 and 150 mph ? Have you heard similar stuff ?
Hi Mr Adam, this is one beautiful looking bike. I love this bike very much due to it being the only 650cc with inline 4 engine. But do you recommend this bike for a beginner? Is this bike powerful enough that I won't get bored with it? I always see that people say this bike is quite weak for a 650cc inline four and not powerful enough but I really wanted to have one in the future.
Hell yeah thx for getting back to me. I've noticed in your videos you switch it up which is why I was curious. Just got my first bad speeding ticket today out on the road. Lol sucked but I guess it happens. Have you had to deal with a lot of shit like that in your riding career?
What's up Frost? Oh yeah. I've had more than my fair share of run ins with the Law. The biggest thing is to PAY ATTENTION. It's a insanely dangerous world we live in so having your wits about you and constantly scanning for traffic, dogs, cats, kids, cops, etc. will help you mitigate trouble.
True True. It was a huge wake up call for me getting a big ticket and having a cop tell me he could put me in cuffs. But I had figured it has happened to the best of them as well, I just gotta be more careful. Thanks again G!
Yeah man - gotta keep your eyes out for the fuzz. On another note, depending on the severity of the ticket -- or if you care or not, it's worth challenging that ticket and trying to get it dismissed. Insurance is nuts these days so if you can maintain a squeaky clean driving record you'll save in the long run...
are the vibrations too much like the 2014 model cbr. is it reduced? how is it compare to the z800 900 bikes. cause I am planning to buy one next month. thanks.
You keep saying "symmetrical exhaust". In the words of Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it means". Also, it's "axial" mount, not "axle" mount. I could go on...
Is this a terrible bike for a first time rider to learn on and practice? I want to have a decent bike that I can grow into and not outgrow and need to upgrade in a year of riding, plus there is a used 2016 with 5200 miles for sale locally for a great price so I am interested in seeing if it would be a good idea for me to get this or to stick with my previous aim of a Yamaha R3.
R3 is a great bike if your riding is around city streets or roads up to 50mph but if your roads are like the ones in this video go for a 650. The bigger bikes are easier to ride, brakes and suspension are considerably better, as long as you have the self control to not pin the throttle everywhere you should be good (same goes for the smaller cc bikes, they don't stop nearly as well!)
To be fair tho, the FZ09 is a bit more of a bitch, wheelie hungry and "unbalanced" for some peoples taste. More Bang for the buck but the Honda is more cultivated imop (im a 09-Fanboi, FYI)
FlipsGTS not really, cultivated? Meaning slow. The FZ-09 have better spec parts, like upside down forks, radical mounted breaks. It's a way better bike.
Quang Lam jup, cultivated also means slow. Way less agressive. I go 09 all day, but for some people the bike is to agressive, just look up reviews. We can call them pussys for that, but still has to be taken in consideration when looking for a new bike, thats all im saying
I was looking at a website for good beginning motorcycles since I'm just about to turn the legal age where I can get my licence and I found the CB650F as one. Would you reccomend that for me as a beginning motorcycle or something else?
Depends. Do you have any riding experience to begin with? Off road, something like that? If you feel pretty comfortable on a bike already and are just waiting for the red tape to go away, it could be a really nice option. Even if you're pretty green to it all and handled the bike with respect you would likely be happy. There's others in that middleweight, streetfighter range that might be a little less expensive, the SV650 and Z650 come to mind. And that's coming from the perspective of what's available in America, if you're riding in a different country with more mid to low displacement options then you may have even more choices available.
I have no motorcycle experience (tbh I haven't even touched one in my life). I have been riding a mongoose mountain bike for as long as I can remember, but I haven't gone offroad with that. Also stupid question, what do you mean by "waiting for the red tape to go away"? I've just recently started wondering about motorcycles so when it comes to this stuff, I feel really dumb :P
Red tape was only referring to waiting to be a legal age, nothing to do with motorcycles. I might go for something a little more manageable then if you haven't been on a motorcycle ever before. Definitely going to be a different experience than riding a mountain bike. If you like the look, Honda has a CB300F that will be cheaper and potentially a lot more fun. There's also some great dual sport or adventure bikes. Kawasaki's Versys X-300, BMW's G 310 GS. The lower-displacement market is actually booming so there's lots to choose from. If you like sport bike style Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM, Suzuki all have machines to choose from. Maybe start thinking about the type of riding you imagine you'll be doing most, and do some research on which bikes will be best suited for that. Since you're starting fresh, learning the basics of throttle, brake, clutch control, body positioning, situational awareness, a lower-displacement bike could be a lot more enjoyable as a learning tool.
Thanks for that! Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions, and good luck getting started with everything. You're going to love life on two wheels!
I have about 6 years of experience on a 500cc bike ('87 Kawasaki EX500). The only way I could get it to wheelie is if I stood by side the front wheel and used a jack. On this 650 you were riding, when you were wheelie-ing, were you dropping the clutch or just twisting to lift the wheel?
Rode this bike and others 4 cylinders with similar power. There is no way you can get a wheelie just giving gas in these bikes. The 4 cyl engine just doesn't have enough torque.
You keep repeating these bikes are made in Thailand... Does it really matter where motorcycles are assembled nowadays? Aren't the R&D and quality control a lot more important in terms of reliability than the country where the bikes are assembled?
Hi Gianni - great question - well, it's certainly a friendly and easy bike to ride, but if it was me... I'd start on something smaller. Even though its got a smooth, mellow engine, it's still a 600cc series I4 so it's got some balls. I'd probably begin my career on a smaller biker and move up after a few months. I know it is more of hassle/money spend, but you'll have a more pleasant experience in the long run. On the flip side, you could certainly do worse for a beginner friendly bike and the CBR650F is a nice full-size ride that is happy riding fast or slow-- great bike.
Hi Adam, I see this bike comes with LED headlamps. How common is LED headlamps on motorcycles by default, considering this is 2017? I couldn't find many other offerings other than Honda CB/CBR 650F 2018 and Harley fat boy 2018. Any other?
Couple of mistakes. You tried to reference the 400-4 (I owned one) then showed a 2cylinder bike. Then you referred to the exhaust as symmetrical...wrong, it’s asymmetrical.
I'm not at all an automobile guy, but let me ask this here.. Why are there so many complaints about Honda using outdated tech? I see 4 valve, fuel injected engine, not so common LED headlamps, ABS etc.. What is really old here?
cueballB I see. Thanks for the reply. What about brake is outdated in this bike? Also, by upd fork do you mean inverted front (upside down) suspension?
cueballB USD forks are must have for this price, but I can hardly complain about traction control. Is there any bike in this category that comes with TC?
What a disappointment. They could be so nice, but not for that much money. The last r6 was in the 9000s before the recent update. I used to be a big fan of Honda, but lately their stuff seems overpriced and bland. They make things so so smooth when it comes to power curves that it takes away the fun
Hi Subhasish, here is a reply from one of our editors, Adam: "We were in SoCal for this event off Angeles Crest Highway. The particular shot/location that person commented on was actually near Mammoth Lakes, California - I was up there riding during a vacation this past summer and I brought my drone with me and was able to get that shot and use it later on!" Thanks for watching.
Hi MegaSpyder13 - you are correct, this video was shot in Southern California, on and near Angeles Crest Highway. Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for watching.
Advice anyone? Moving up after riding a 250cc for a about 3000km and looking for a good sporty-but-allround and affordable middleweight. Been thinking about the 2017 ninja 650, the sv650 or the CBR650. Or maybe a Yamaha FZ/MT 07? Hard to find good advantage and disadvantage comparisons
I'm personally a fan of the FZ series for a more comfortable ride that will allow for sporty activities. People oftentimes underestimate the advantage of having a little versatility as far as tank size, luggage, and comfort go. The CB650F is also a great comparable choice.
As far as affordability, the SV650 is probably your best bet. The FZ and Ninja have a lot of OEM accessories, the CBR a smooth and enjoyable engine. I think you're going to be stoked on any of them moving up from a 250cc bike, but maybe decide if you want to get a naked or faired bike first and then go from there. I think the CBR650 would be an awesome choice if you don't mind shelling out a little more cash and the SV if you want a really fun naked machine.
Just got my CBR650F - the 4 cylinder engine was what sold it to me. Also have a Ninja 650 in the family and the engine in that is like a tractor in comparison, suspension isn't as good and it's a bit less sporty. I'd say the Ninja 650 is a nice commuter bike made to look sporty and the Honda is a softened sports bike. Only thing I prefer on the Ninja is the big tacho needle, the LCD display is a bit hard to see on the CBR
It Is Not A Leaner Bike 0_o If they've been riding dirtbikes Then Yeah Perfect First Road Bike :D but if you put someone that has never ridden before on the road They are going to Crash. In the Sports Bike World, this is a good "starter bike" But in the Real World, a beginner should not be encouraged to jump on one of these. Any bike that can do 0-100 in 4sec and can hit over 200kph Is Not to be toyed with on the Road. The CBR500R is more than enough for the road :) but this 650s Inline4 with a slip-on Makes an Amazing SOunD!
Charlie Football I have to disagree with you. And that’s because I bought a 2016 CBR650F in June. I’ve put almost 2000 miles on it and have yet to drop it. I would definitely advocate for a mature beginner rider to buy this bike.
KJ Elias But for a truly beginner i suggest buy a super cheap dirtbike and learn to balance yourself and learn to shift gears better aroung 3 - 4month would be enough before buying the cbr650f
I find that engine sounds cheap, cant help it... what is more mature about it compared to the Suzuki or Kawasaki? It sounds like a teenager to me with high pitched voice and its outdated technology at the same time
Worst than a 2001 Honda CBR600F4i, Honda is cheap on this cbr! 2 piston brake vs 4 piston on CBR600F4i, power is down also, so there is no reason to buy this, better off with a mt09 or gsxs750.
Honda are miles behind their competitors in cars and bikes. They are generally pricier but without a sense why. It is such a shame but Honda aren't even considered in the motorcycle press. In this category they are thoroughly outclassed and the weakest option of the Japanese bikes. This is still a decent bike though. Hard to understand why it is so heavy and underpowered by modern standards. If you are going to spend that sort of money you might as well buy a bandit 1200 and be done with it. Guaranteed smile.
Dude, how do you freely spit out these stats and facts while still giving a solid review and riding aggressively?! Great stuff. Stay safe. 💯
Just bought mine about 800 miles ago. Just love this bike. Looks great, super comfortable suspension and handles great. Looks like a super bike rides like a comfort bike.
Why did you pick this over say the CBR500R (I can't keep track of all the R's in Honda's naming monikers) but I'm referring to the full-fairing, sport looking, comfortable riding 500cc bike? _Okay, now I understand the moniker_ ;) It's been a year, still enjoying the bike?
@@TheRoadTaken The CBR500R is only like high 40 something horsepower while the CBR650F is like almost twice that at 80 something. You can search for the exact numbers..... so yeah, get the CBR650F. I would between the two, unless you can pick up a 500 for way way less than the 650, I would fork out a little more if I can find a 650 at a good price. Also the 500 is a 2 cylinder motor whereas the 650 is 4 cylinder.
Adam Waleed you are the best reviewer on the interwebs. the way you weave stats into conversation with knowledge and not showing off - "keeping track of your mileage with this 4.6 gallon fuel tank" .. your analysis of disk brakes mounted to the forks was great i'll need to listen to that again. and watching your track ride of the Kawa 400 was thrilling. Thanks Adam, keep up the great work!~
Have this new cbr650f since april, did 6k miles since and everytime I ride this beauty it fascinates me how smooth and friendly she is. Enough power for no unwanted surprises and it just pulls from every rpm range. Two things I did after about 3k miles, changed the levers to adjustable, stock are pretty bad, clutch grabs too far and changed the tires to bridgestone battlax s21’s and the bike showed it’s true colors, the lean response improved by far and these tires boost self confidence and I simply rode and leaned to the edges without any worries unlike those shitty d222 which gave me a few bad moments. Overall a very nice bike which I tend to keep for a few years at least.
Yeah those D222's aren't the best - they performed well during our test loop - but we were on nice abrasive pavement. I would ditch those things right away too.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Like most things, simple enhancements can net a more enjoyable motorcycle. Thanks for sharing your experience and Ride Red!
I love my Bstone s21's as well. I am a big fan of the cbr650F. I think it would be nice to have a 1000cc or larger CBRxF with hard bags (similar to the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 LT). However, I realize there is no demand.
IDK about that - seems like those sport-sport-touring bikes are a neat niche. The KTM variation is awesome and the Kawasaki is pretty good too. Would be great if Honda made one featuring its CBR1000RR engine - that thing would be PERFECT for sport-touring.
G. Pernuš are does good for rainy days?
Anyone else appreciate Adam’s total lack of motorcycle snobbery?
Great review and thanks for talking about passenger comfort cause no one ever talk about that in reviews.
No one cares thats why
Just picked up a 2014 CBR650F w/ ABS. There are good times ahead. 🙂
My friend who is older and a dealer bought one and did not like the vibration but the naked bike may be smoother without the bodywork acting as a vibration transmitter. I did ride the CBR600F2 and F3 in the 90s and the vibes did not bother me at all. I really like both of these bikes. Had a 919 and several Honda Nighthawks, a Yamaha FZ1 and a Kaw ZR750. I like inlines too.
I have the 2016 Honda CBR650F with power commander , two brothers Tarmac full exhaust system. I got it new and already has 8400 miles. I love the motorcycle myself
just applied to finance for a full fearing 650! fingers crossed!!
Great video. Really considering this bike after owning a GSXR600 for 3yrs I want something more comfortable to ride around town like you had mentioned.
I own a 2017 cb650f. One of the best bikes i have ridden for a long time.
I have always appreciated your reviews and insight (even with bikes I don't plan on buying). Keep up the great work. Subbed
I got my CBR650F brand new in 2016. I love the motorcycle and I already did some modifications that are need it like the Two Brothers Tarmac full exhaust and a power commander. I have 8500 miles on it with no issues. Even if I get another bike I plan to keep this bike
2018 bikes and no Gear Position indicator ??, Honda needs to get their head out of their Ass
BeaglePower G Yeah the clocks are horrible too for a modern bike, in my opinion.
Agreed - we covered this in the written review as well.
Almost all the makes of this class, (especially Yamaha since 2011) already have a gear indicator factory installed. I personally find Honda CBR650F extremely appealing and very attractive, however with no gear indicator it makes my fellow riders when they upgrade or look for something else, turn towards Kawasaki Ninja 650 that has gear display since last year. Simple thing and very practical, but Honda creators seem to have a problem with that. It has been for years already.
VanClaaude you dont really need a gear indicator. And once you know your bike you should be able to tell wich gear you are in by looking at speed and rpm.
I have been riding since I was 14. Small German Simson first, 1 cylinder, 4 gears, upgraded to Jawa 250cc still 4 gears (1982) then MZ250 naked Police bike 5 gears 1984-85. Then Yamaha Drag star 5 gears. Never thought twice. But since I've been riding Honda Sports 500 and higher with 6 gears, I think they should keep up with technology. I doesn't matter to me, although I've never been able to tell by rpm's (rather by speed) - I can ride any bike without it. It does help however, if you have it. Quick look at your panel and you don't have to guess. Therefore, Yamaha R6 and Kawasaki Ninja sells better Down-under.
Hands down, the best review of this bike...if not the best review of any bike, ever.
Good job guys! I'm looking to see this channel take off! Keep up the good work 👍
Hi Jesse - thanks for the nice complement.
Just bought mine today
The opening always gives me chills in the good way
Honda.... best bikes for every skill level... and very low maintenance.... gotta love them
You have a good knowledge base man, keep up the work!👊💪👍
What's up John? Thanks for the kudos on that. See ya around.
I really like the sound of this bike. Do you think this is a good all around bike?
Great video, really love this bike, my choice for next or second bike besides my Goldwing.
WingMan Hoy: I be looking at this too besides my Wing! Which one did you consider or choose? I like the naked. NY Mike.
Очень круто, спасибо за приятное видео, с радостью будем ждать новых видеороликов. Всем добра.
The pipes are anything but 'symmetrical', they're closer to 'parallel'...
what highway is this?! awesome vid Adam!
Would this motorcycle be a good first motorcycle? Is it actually comfortable for travel and long distances?
In isolation, I'm sure it's a perfectly competent motorcycle and would last a very long time with regular maintenance.
Trouble is, for the price and weight of the bike you have other stuff so close by like the Z900, GSX-S750, FZ-09. Or less expensive you have stuff that's nearly as competitive such as FZ-07, SV650, Z650. I think the price and weight is too high. I bought a Z900 (non-abs) out the door, tax and fees all in for under $8600. 125 hp, 73 torque and butter smooth engine. It's within 10 pounds and $550 of the CB and also gets 43 mpg after fully broken in.
I don't know how well the CB650F will sell.
CB650F vs Z900 - I agree, no contest. CBR 650F... if you put on a bit taller windscreen, you can use it as a fun bike + for light touring (2 up, side cases). Z900 is just a fun bike, I don't think it can be used for any other purpose.
And yet they didn't change the ugly speedometer
Yeah - it's something we discussed in the video and written article.
Honestly when I buy a bike, this is the last thing I would care about
Excellent review, smart guy.
Thanks for the great review. There seems to be very little reviews of the Cb650f and cbr650f, not sure why as they seem to be amazing mid sized bikes. Have pretty much decided that this will be my next bike over the MT07 & z650. Seems a more 'mature' choice and I like the smooth delivery of the inline four.
Hi Jack - we too classify it as a more "mature" choice. Nice word choice. Yeah, don't get us wrong we love all engine configurations, but we always gravitate to the well-rounded performance of a I4.
I own a 2014cbr650f and let me tell ya no problems and its a fantastic bike
I really like the cbr. But i'd never buy it. It kinda falls between categories. It's not in the realm of the Suzuki sv650 and the Kawa 650. But it's not powerful enough to play with the GSXS750 or the new Triumph Street Triple. I'd like Honda to add 100 cc's to that engine and they'd have a middle weight to be reckoned with.
what racing class were you planning on using it in?
The CBR is as nimble in the city as the CB. Using the narrower bars just takes a tiny tad of skill. The narrower bars are actually better for filtering between queues, On the highway it's even better than the CB. Also a plus for conservative riders - no gimmicks with display or on the overall techy side at all. Just has ABS - and that's kinda useful tho. Gear indicators are for nincompoops. Seriously. Temp gauge would be nice but runs without one as well.
Yea. Thats also me. Self approving, haughty son of a slug driving around on my CBR with no gear indicator and not bickering about it at all (:
Good vid, to move to the next level I would suggest a small segment off the bike. Show the fitment with you and a smaller rider for comparison and talk about some of the hard points: brakes, suspension, wheels and so on. Other than that, great job.
Awesome man - valid point and a worthy critique. Do to the nature of these rides, there isn't a whole lot of time to shoot video -- but your comments are good food for thought...
Got mine off this.. love it
Hi Adam,
Great timing in this review as I just went to check out the 2018 model at a local dealer. I’m pretty much sold on it, just not which year.
Do you know which year they first introduced the LED headlight?
Like others, I was disappointed to see that Honda did not update the gauges or make other major changes for 2018 so I’m now willing to go back a few years to buy a used CBR650F.
Any major differences or updates you can think of that are only present on the 2018 model?
Thank you in advance and keep up the great work! 👍
What's up Leonard - the LED headlamp is new for this year, 2018.
I cover the specific changes/tweaks and upgrades in the written review? I encourage you to give it a read: www.ridersdomain.com/magazine/motorcycles/reviews/2018-honda-cb650f-cbr650f-first-test-review/
Also, fyi, the link to these things is always in our video description.
If I wanted to Ride Red, I would seek a used model. American Honda began importing these things for MY2014 so you can start your shopping there.
Great article!
On paper, it really doesn’t seem like there are major differences between the years so I think I will try to find a clean, used one.
Thank you for your time!
I think that's a logical decision, Leonard. Let me know what you find - I am curious to see how it goes for you.
How was the steering..heavy or light and nimble?
upside down front fork makes her way way beautiful ❤️
The 2018 has conventional fork. The 2019 "R" has USD.
1 year warranty?! Not like it matters to me but Honda is giving a 5yr warranty(extended) for like $40 extra.
Nice review
The ninja 650 is like 40lbs lighter, Honda is too heavy, I was out the door for 6300 on a ninja. I did spend $660 upgrading the front with new springs and a valve kit. It totally transforms the ninja to a fast bike.
But that has twin
Adam just 3 days back Honda launched the 650f here in India for 730000rs (11220 USD) around the same as 797 Monster. I want to ask how is the vibrations compared to its rivals? are they so much that they irritates the rider? as I am planning to use it mostly as a sports tourer for long 600 mile journeys. will add commuting and some trackdays too. Does it qualify as a " Do it all" machine for that price ?
There is more vibration than there should be IMOP. You gotta remember though that this is an older engine design - so it's going to have some vibes. This machine certainly qualifies as "do it all".
by older, that's brand new from ground up design from 2014 older.
it does not have a balancer shaft so 3500 bizzes the fairing and 6500 buzzes the bars. replacing the grips help and the 1st service help with this.
Suyash Kaul in my opinion is a do it all machine . I got my CBR650F brand new and 8900 miles later still love it!!
The vibes are only in certain areas and they are very minor. FFS every bike has some vibes did you know a engine explodes petrol ? And that's underneath your bum very close to you?
12:10 I'm 6'2", okay?
Scenic ride! What part of this country is that?
Nice looking bikes. I do with Honda would design and build a good 3 cylinder of around 700 - 750cc for bikes like these.
Good review, thanks Adam. I got the CBR500R 2 months ago, putting lots of miles on it already, but it didn't take long for me to start thinking I'd like more power, even though the 500 is pretty damn fast considering its hp, but it is a fabulous city machine though. I'd like the hp at higher speeds and a machine that strains less at them and know the 650 would deliver that in spades. Wonder how long before I'll do the trade-in, probably next spring now as winter will be here soon in Ontario.
Sweet - thanks for sharing your experience. Gotta be getting cold up there? Haha - yeah, it's nice having two extra cylinders beneath you... Really give your bike more lung capacity and acceleration. If you enjoy your 500R, but want some extra muscle, this 650F duo seems like a logical direction to go.
Actually Adam, we've had an amazing fall. I've ridden thousands of kilometers and rode about 100 miles on the 22nd, sunday, and it must have been at least 24C. Also, my very first passenger, my new girlfriend, and I think she enjoyed it. I know I sure loved having her on the back. lol Seriously though, I can see the CBR650F in next year's future. Personally, I can't see why I'd ever need the extra HP of a litre bike. The 650 has over 30HP more than the 500, so even if it's about 40 pounds heavier it's going to be a lot faster than mine.
Hey man, looking back to your experience with the 500r - do you regret getting the 500r first instead of getting a 650f right from the get go? See it has been a while since I made my drivers license on the bike, but now Im seriously considering to finally get my first bike next spring. Got the same choice as you had - beginner friendly 500r or 650f right away. Id like to start modest, mostly for safety reasons cause you can learn easier and faster on a smaller bike in my opinion. you can test your limits on a 500 better, cause mistakes are more likely to be forgiven there. however, a lot of people claim that the 650f is suitable for absolute beginners too, and I tend towards the 650f. I do not want to regret my purchase after 2 months realizing I have grown out of the 500r + the 500r is too small for my height. have you arleady traded your bike for the 650f? thx and safe ride!
Hey omega. I do love the 500 as there are so many great things about it. Love the seat height, which is pretty low and super comfortable when stopped at lights. It is really fast for a 49 hp machine and there aren't many cars around that could match you taking off. It's fairly light at around 430 pounds, and due to it being a lower center of gravity, it handles beautifully when cornering. It gets ridiculous gas mileage too with only the 2 cylinders. The 650 is about 40 pounds heavier, something to take into account but it also has a much nicer seat, especially for a rider. The 500's passenger seat is really small and not comfortable if that is part of your deal.The 500 can do the highways speeds, but I found it was towards a bit of a strain as opposed to thinking it was very comfortable at that speed. Regarding the 650, it has about 30+ more hp, a significant amount, and I know it will deal with highways speeds easily. I like that it torques well in the city at lower rpms, as opposed to the 500 which needs more rpm and doesn't lug well at all at low rpms. I think if you at all at ease with riding, I would go with the 650 because I know for myself, after about a month, I was wishing for more speed, especially, as I said, at the higher speeds. Acceleration on the 500 is not an issue, but the 650 would be significantly faster at that too. I still have my 500, but next spring, fully expect to trade it in or do a consignment thing to get the CBR650F.
hey, thx for assessment, man! It is always nice to get some info 1st hand. So far, most people have told me that if you aint crazy on the throttle, even beginner can handle the cbr 650f. For me, the turning point was when I took a seat on the bikes first time. Initially, I was going for the 500r, but since I am 6´2 tall, it does not only look awkward, but also feels a bit uncomfortable sitting on the 500r cause I cant stretch out my legs on the ground when I stand still. After that I took a seat on the 650 just for fun and it felt immediately a lot more comfortable. I think having a good first impressions is important, thats why Im going with the 650. Many thanks, take care!
Good bike.. I would upgrade from my NC700X DCT
Question for you in comparison to the Honda CBR650F vs CB650F. I am assuming both motorcycles have what you call semi upright seating vs having to round you’re back over like when a person is driving a CB600RR is that correct ? Also from what I could tell the CBR650F & CB650F have the identical engine far as horsepower and torque is concerned is that true ? From what I could see they both have 90 hp and 47 pounds of torque and Max out between 140 and 150 mph ? Have you heard similar stuff ?
Also, talking about vibes at higher RPMs, can you translate that to MPH? For instance, daily commuting with traffic at a steady cruising speed?
have a 2009 600rr and want something more friendly around town/city and commutes. Should i upgrade to the 650f?
Hi Mr Adam, this is one beautiful looking bike. I love this bike very much due to it being the only 650cc with inline 4 engine. But do you recommend this bike for a beginner? Is this bike powerful enough that I won't get bored with it? I always see that people say this bike is quite weak for a 650cc inline four and not powerful enough but I really wanted to have one in the future.
Imo you don't need more power, because you can't bring it on the road anyway.
Hell yeah. Adam do you prefer using the clutch for wheelies or just throttle?
I like either honestly - but I prefer just using power --- as it is a bit easier on the bike IMOP.
Hell yeah thx for getting back to me. I've noticed in your videos you switch it up which is why I was curious. Just got my first bad speeding ticket today out on the road. Lol sucked but I guess it happens. Have you had to deal with a lot of shit like that in your riding career?
What's up Frost? Oh yeah. I've had more than my fair share of run ins with the Law. The biggest thing is to PAY ATTENTION. It's a insanely dangerous world we live in so having your wits about you and constantly scanning for traffic, dogs, cats, kids, cops, etc. will help you mitigate trouble.
True True. It was a huge wake up call for me getting a big ticket and having a cop tell me he could put me in cuffs. But I had figured it has happened to the best of them as well, I just gotta be more careful. Thanks again G!
Yeah man - gotta keep your eyes out for the fuzz. On another note, depending on the severity of the ticket -- or if you care or not, it's worth challenging that ticket and trying to get it dismissed. Insurance is nuts these days so if you can maintain a squeaky clean driving record you'll save in the long run...
are the vibrations too much like the 2014 model cbr. is it reduced? how is it compare to the z800 900 bikes.
cause I am planning to buy one next month.
thanks.
You keep saying "symmetrical exhaust". In the words of Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it means".
Also, it's "axial" mount, not "axle" mount.
I could go on...
Great Review!
Is this a terrible bike for a first time rider to learn on and practice? I want to have a decent bike that I can grow into and not outgrow and need to upgrade in a year of riding, plus there is a used 2016 with 5200 miles for sale locally for a great price so I am interested in seeing if it would be a good idea for me to get this or to stick with my previous aim of a Yamaha R3.
R3 is a great bike if your riding is around city streets or roads up to 50mph but if your roads are like the ones in this video go for a 650. The bigger bikes are easier to ride, brakes and suspension are considerably better, as long as you have the self control to not pin the throttle everywhere you should be good (same goes for the smaller cc bikes, they don't stop nearly as well!)
If one is 6ft 3 are you saying that the CBR 650F is to small?
$8700 is pretty steep. I rather get the FZ-09.
Agreed. With that asking price Honda is going to have a tough time selling these things. Reduce the MSRP by $1000-- and now that suddenly changes...
To be fair tho, the FZ09 is a bit more of a bitch, wheelie hungry and "unbalanced" for some peoples taste. More Bang for the buck but the Honda is more cultivated imop (im a 09-Fanboi, FYI)
FlipsGTS not really, cultivated? Meaning slow. The FZ-09 have better spec parts, like upside down forks, radical mounted breaks. It's a way better bike.
Quang Lam jup, cultivated also means slow. Way less agressive. I go 09 all day, but for some people the bike is to agressive, just look up reviews. We can call them pussys for that, but still has to be taken in consideration when looking for a new bike, thats all im saying
Everyone I know can grow into an aggressive bike.
Mt-09
3inlines so more fuel efficient but....
It is 849cc.. Which eats lots of fuel.
Rather pick the cbr650f
I was looking at a website for good beginning motorcycles since I'm just about to turn the legal age where I can get my licence and I found the CB650F as one. Would you reccomend that for me as a beginning motorcycle or something else?
Depends. Do you have any riding experience to begin with? Off road, something like that? If you feel pretty comfortable on a bike already and are just waiting for the red tape to go away, it could be a really nice option. Even if you're pretty green to it all and handled the bike with respect you would likely be happy. There's others in that middleweight, streetfighter range that might be a little less expensive, the SV650 and Z650 come to mind. And that's coming from the perspective of what's available in America, if you're riding in a different country with more mid to low displacement options then you may have even more choices available.
I have no motorcycle experience (tbh I haven't even touched one in my life). I have been riding a mongoose mountain bike for as long as I can remember, but I haven't gone offroad with that.
Also stupid question, what do you mean by "waiting for the red tape to go away"? I've just recently started wondering about motorcycles so when it comes to this stuff, I feel really dumb :P
Red tape was only referring to waiting to be a legal age, nothing to do with motorcycles. I might go for something a little more manageable then if you haven't been on a motorcycle ever before. Definitely going to be a different experience than riding a mountain bike. If you like the look, Honda has a CB300F that will be cheaper and potentially a lot more fun. There's also some great dual sport or adventure bikes. Kawasaki's Versys X-300, BMW's G 310 GS. The lower-displacement market is actually booming so there's lots to choose from. If you like sport bike style Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM, Suzuki all have machines to choose from. Maybe start thinking about the type of riding you imagine you'll be doing most, and do some research on which bikes will be best suited for that. Since you're starting fresh, learning the basics of throttle, brake, clutch control, body positioning, situational awareness, a lower-displacement bike could be a lot more enjoyable as a learning tool.
Alright, thanks for the help with which I should go for, definitely looking at Honda with brighter eyes than before. Oh, by the way I subscribed :)
Thanks for that! Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions, and good luck getting started with everything. You're going to love life on two wheels!
I have about 6 years of experience on a 500cc bike ('87 Kawasaki EX500). The only way I could get it to wheelie is if I stood by side the front wheel and used a jack. On this 650 you were riding, when you were wheelie-ing, were you dropping the clutch or just twisting to lift the wheel?
Rode this bike and others 4 cylinders with similar power. There is no way you can get a wheelie just giving gas in these bikes. The 4 cyl engine just doesn't have enough torque.
@@user735_ thanks for confirming.
is it okay if we ride superbike once a week?
You keep repeating these bikes are made in Thailand... Does it really matter where motorcycles are assembled nowadays? Aren't the R&D and quality control a lot more important in terms of reliability than the country where the bikes are assembled?
Hi Adam, would you recommend this for beginners/novice riders? Thanks.
Hi Gianni - great question - well, it's certainly a friendly and easy bike to ride, but if it was me... I'd start on something smaller. Even though its got a smooth, mellow engine, it's still a 600cc series I4 so it's got some balls. I'd probably begin my career on a smaller biker and move up after a few months. I know it is more of hassle/money spend, but you'll have a more pleasant experience in the long run.
On the flip side, you could certainly do worse for a beginner friendly bike and the CBR650F is a nice full-size ride that is happy riding fast or slow-- great bike.
Adam Waheed thank you for the insight. 👍
Mike Parry hmmm. I don't know if we can do that here in Canada. But thanks for the insight as well.👍
Do you know fuel avegare consumption?litre per 100kiliometer
Hi Adam,
I see this bike comes with LED headlamps. How common is LED headlamps on motorcycles by default, considering this is 2017? I couldn't find many other offerings other than Honda CB/CBR 650F 2018 and Harley fat boy 2018. Any other?
the part number on the headlamp also appears on the 2015 CB/R500.
Others in the market are the 2017+ yamaha MT/FZ range.
Couple of mistakes. You tried to reference the 400-4 (I owned one) then showed a 2cylinder bike. Then you referred to the exhaust as symmetrical...wrong, it’s asymmetrical.
I'm not at all an automobile guy, but let me ask this here..
Why are there so many complaints about Honda using outdated tech? I see 4 valve, fuel injected engine, not so common LED headlamps, ABS etc..
What is really old here?
Brakes, rider modes, traction control, no upd fork, outdated gauges. I'd personally rather have traction control than a LED headlight.
cueballB I see. Thanks for the reply. What about brake is outdated in this bike? Also, by upd fork do you mean inverted front (upside down) suspension?
Nawfal Hassan Non-adjustable levers. Brakes themselves are ok. And yes, upside down fork. They had them on the Hornet, not on this bike.
cueballB USD forks are must have for this price, but I can hardly complain about traction control. Is there any bike in this category that comes with TC?
cueballB For that price I wouldn't even be surprised. And for that kind of hp i dont think you need all of those. Its nice to have but unnecessary.
Awesome Rev iews.. Lol. thanks again
cn i get tht rev bomb echo sound which is starting on the video?
How is the throttle response and the clutch and transmission?
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The older motorcycles looked better.
What a disappointment. They could be so nice, but not for that much money. The last r6 was in the 9000s before the recent update. I used to be a big fan of Honda, but lately their stuff seems overpriced and bland. They make things so so smooth when it comes to power curves that it takes away the fun
It's called having useable power instead of the need to rev it over 10 k to move.
thanks!
You mean asymmetrical pipes, not symmetrical pipes.
5:46 beautiful view. Which place is that?
Hi Subhasish, here is a reply from one of our editors, Adam: "We were in SoCal for this event off Angeles Crest Highway. The particular shot/location that person commented on was actually near Mammoth Lakes, California - I was up there riding during a vacation this past summer and I brought my drone with me and was able to get that shot and use it later on!"
Thanks for watching.
Where was this filmed? Looks like Southern California. Anyone know the road?
Hi MegaSpyder13 - you are correct, this video was shot in Southern California, on and near Angeles Crest Highway. Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for watching.
Nice bike,....
Advice anyone? Moving up after riding a 250cc for a about 3000km and looking for a good sporty-but-allround and affordable middleweight. Been thinking about the 2017 ninja 650, the sv650 or the CBR650. Or maybe a Yamaha FZ/MT 07? Hard to find good advantage and disadvantage comparisons
I'm personally a fan of the FZ series for a more comfortable ride that will allow for sporty activities. People oftentimes underestimate the advantage of having a little versatility as far as tank size, luggage, and comfort go. The CB650F is also a great comparable choice.
As far as affordability, the SV650 is probably your best bet. The FZ and Ninja have a lot of OEM accessories, the CBR a smooth and enjoyable engine. I think you're going to be stoked on any of them moving up from a 250cc bike, but maybe decide if you want to get a naked or faired bike first and then go from there. I think the CBR650 would be an awesome choice if you don't mind shelling out a little more cash and the SV if you want a really fun naked machine.
Thanks man, helpful stuff and super nice that you answered so quickly! I subscribed to keep updated!
Just got my CBR650F - the 4 cylinder engine was what sold it to me. Also have a Ninja 650 in the family and the engine in that is like a tractor in comparison, suspension isn't as good and it's a bit less sporty.
I'd say the Ninja 650 is a nice commuter bike made to look sporty and the Honda is a softened sports bike.
Only thing I prefer on the Ninja is the big tacho needle, the LCD display is a bit hard to see on the CBR
Similar in price to Z900?
Very close, save around $400 bucks with the Z900 ABS compared to the CBR650F w/ABS.
Don't upload with image stabilization. Stupid swimming image in static shots.
Image stabilization is absent.
It Is Not A Leaner Bike 0_o
If they've been riding dirtbikes Then Yeah Perfect First Road Bike :D but if you put someone that has never ridden before on the road They are going to Crash. In the Sports Bike World, this is a good "starter bike" But in the Real World, a beginner should not be encouraged to jump on one of these. Any bike that can do 0-100 in 4sec and can hit over 200kph Is Not to be toyed with on the Road. The CBR500R is more than enough for the road :) but this 650s Inline4 with a slip-on Makes an Amazing SOunD!
Charlie Football I have to disagree with you. And that’s because I bought a 2016 CBR650F in June. I’ve put almost 2000 miles on it and have yet to drop it. I would definitely advocate for a mature beginner rider to buy this bike.
KJ Elias But for a truly beginner i suggest buy a super cheap dirtbike and learn to balance yourself and learn to shift gears better aroung 3 - 4month would be enough before buying the cbr650f
Not sure why this bike is 460 pounds when a cbr600rr is 400
Derrrrr the 600rr is a race bike ffs
I find that engine sounds cheap, cant help it... what is more mature about it compared to the Suzuki or Kawasaki? It sounds like a teenager to me with high pitched voice and its outdated technology at the same time
It just looks like a fat honda STUNNER... Doesn't
Way too heavy
Anybody needs gear indicator should stick with fucking scooters! Really annoyed with these riders complaint about the absence of it.
Worst than a 2001 Honda CBR600F4i, Honda is cheap on this cbr! 2 piston brake vs 4 piston on CBR600F4i, power is down also, so there is no reason to buy this, better off with a mt09 or gsxs750.
Miss #motorcycleUSA
Kawasaki Z900 is better.
Honda are miles behind their competitors in cars and bikes. They are generally pricier but without a sense why. It is such a shame but Honda aren't even considered in the motorcycle press. In this category they are thoroughly outclassed and the weakest option of the Japanese bikes. This is still a decent bike though. Hard to understand why it is so heavy and underpowered by modern standards. If you are going to spend that sort of money you might as well buy a bandit 1200 and be done with it. Guaranteed smile.