I was 18 years old back then .. and despite the fact that we couldn't watch these matches live on tv .. we could at least watch the highlights on tv sport news .. or just reading the newspaper next day .. .. Holland was in group 5 in Europe qualifyers .. All matches results : Cyprus vs Austria ...... 1-2 Holland vs Hungary ...1-2 Austria vs Holland .... 1-0 Cyprus vs Hungary ... 1-2 Hungary vs Austria ... 3-1 Cyprus vs Holland .... 0-1 Holland vs Cyprus .... 7-1 Austria vs Hungary ... 0-3 Hungary vs Cyprus ... 2-0 Holland vs Austria .... 1-1 Austria vs Cyprus ..... 4-0 Hungary vs Holland .. 0-1 .. Hungary guaranteed their first place in the group even before playing their last match against Holland .. and the only hope for Holland to be runners up was to beat Hungary .. a draw or a defeat means Austria will qualify to the play - off against Belgium ..
23:34 : that move cost a lot for Netherlands. A butterfly effect, yet ec88 after that. You did like Rocky : "when you're down the ground, the most important is to stand up and move on"
It's a shame that the Netherlands missed out twice in the mid 80's Euro 1984 and World Cup 1986. The Total Football was already done by 1980 and Rinus Michels should have stayed as coach in the national team.
It's a shame Belgium didn't make it in 74 (in 76 and 78, no room to argue, Oranje over alles). Belgium made it even in 82 and 86. Beenhakker (80 since August 2nd) couldn't solidify the defence, adjustment made less than 3 years later (Netherlands lost to Belgium in 1985) Belgium as Netherlands failed to secure 1st place in their qualifiers despite potential. Looks like Oranje weren't ripe yet.
@@Ahito1984 perhaps I missunderstand, but why is it a shame Belgium missed the 1974 World Cup? They were in a group with the Netherlands, perhaps the best team on the planet at that time. Great achievement they played 0-0 against Oranje in both qualify games. If you speak about the disallowed goal in the last game; I can only agree with you, but also in that match NL was way better.
The match in Budapest was brought in austrian tv. Without the goal less than 10 minutes before end Austria would have gone to the play off Kieft was the star of this team ,and in the 88 winner team he was a substitute
Strikers came on went back then, Piet Houtman had a tremendous goal average but he was never called again (or left the National team). Bosman started in the beginning 11 in 1988, Van Basten was a substitute, too.
Naquela copa do mundo de 1986 , faltou duas grandes escolas de futebol , a Holanda e a Iugoslaviav, talvez se já tivesse as 32 seleções do Mundial atual com certeza elas estariam.🤔
El mundial del 86 se perdió de ver a dos grandes como gullit y van basten ...creo q holanda tenia mejor equipo que belgica en ese entonces cuando disputaron el repechaje
ironicamente, Holanda salio segunda en su grupo detras de Hungria, que tuvo un pesimo desempeño en el mundial, recibiendo goleadas de la Urss y Francia (y desde entonces no se volvio a clasificar a una copa del mundo)
@@andres6868 , голландцы на Мундиале, в Мексике, получили голы в свои ворота и от Франции , и от СССР. Возможно не так много как венгры, но... Тогда, время Гуллита и Ван Бастена еще не наступило
@@andres6868in 1986 there were several mediocre european squads in Mexico, Netherlands not qualifying was a disgrace as the quality of playing was often not up to par.
Ero alle scuole medie allora, e mi ricordo che seguivo gli Orange fin dal 1982, quando non si qualificarono. Davo blandamente un occhio alle qualificazioni per Mexico 86 e, a un certo punto, pareva certo che l'Olanda ce l'avesse fatta. Immagina il mio disappunto quando vidi il Belgio al posto loro...
Decepcionante selección holandesa que de manera increíble quedó fuera del mundial por medio de la repesca. Tuvo una gran generación en los 70’s, fracasó en los 80’s y se reconcilió en los 90’s
I agree, Netherlands should have qualified for Mexico ' 86 and France '84. Superb team on paper. The reason why they didn't, too much individualistic, egocententric opinionated infighting of players. Typical Dutch. They were hopelessly naive at the back in defending. Their arrogance was inclined to take other teams for granted, hence why they lost matches that they should have won.
Algunos me parece que hablan al pedo,Belgica llego a la semifinal contra Argentina,y Argentina le gano y la aplasto por 2 a 0 y pasamos a la final del mundial de 1986 y salio Campeon No creo que Belgica sea peor o no se merecia ir al mundial y Holanda si.Son momentos,la defensa holandesa un desastre.
2-0 es aplastar? Holanda el 85 aun estaban explotando sus jugadores, Koeman, Rijkard, Van Basten y Gulit dominarian Europa del 87 al 92 ganando varias champions, la Euro el 88, semifinal de Euro el 92 (penales) ... solo necesitaban una temporada mas para llegar a su peak. La Argentina de Maradona la hubiese tenido mucho mas dificil contra esa Holanda que arranco muy mal el 84 las eliminatorias y despues no perdio mas
I am a fan of The Netherlands and I was a child but I remembered the games against Belgium was dramatic. Belgium has a good team but not better than Netherlands. Hungary was not better than Netherlands but qualified. It was very sad
I remember those matches, there were quality players in the Dutch national team but there was no team yet, Austria and Belgium deservedly won against them
Dram die Beenhakker. Ik zit nog weleens beelden van Marco van Basten te kijken op youtube. Waanneer je zijn doelpunten bij ajax ziet, komt zo´n beetje 75% van de assists van de voet van Vanenburg,@@Davidvalk-p1h
Very bad performance by the Dutch. Very bad organisation. They conceded an unnecessary goal in a very bad time from Belgium. The distribution of their goals between the matches is not good. They scored so many unnecessary goals against Cyprus which should have been scored elsewhere.
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0:34 Hugo Walker, een legende. Wat genoot ik van zijn commentaar.
I was 18 years old back then .. and despite the fact that we couldn't watch these matches live on tv .. we could at least watch the highlights on tv sport news .. or just reading the newspaper next day ..
..
Holland was in group 5 in Europe qualifyers ..
All matches results :
Cyprus vs Austria ...... 1-2
Holland vs Hungary ...1-2
Austria vs Holland .... 1-0
Cyprus vs Hungary ... 1-2
Hungary vs Austria ... 3-1
Cyprus vs Holland .... 0-1
Holland vs Cyprus .... 7-1
Austria vs Hungary ... 0-3
Hungary vs Cyprus ... 2-0
Holland vs Austria .... 1-1
Austria vs Cyprus ..... 4-0
Hungary vs Holland .. 0-1
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Hungary guaranteed their first place in the group even before playing their last match against Holland .. and the only hope for Holland to be runners up was to beat Hungary .. a draw or a defeat means Austria will qualify to the play - off against Belgium ..
I was at that Playoff Game with my late father at the Heizel Stadium against Belgium. Talking about a hostile crowd.
Was niet in Heizel stadion maar in het Anderlecht stadion in oktober 85 beste Ajaxied
@@Davidvalk-p1h bedankt :)
willy van der kerkhof was the only survivor of the 1974-78 wunderteam playing here with future euro 88 stars Gullit, Rijkaard and Van Basten
And Ernie Brandts who played all 1978 World Cup matches.
@@CornelloErnie Brandts still there, impressive!
and Arnold Muhren
23:34 : that move cost a lot for Netherlands. A butterfly effect, yet ec88 after that. You did like Rocky : "when you're down the ground, the most important is to stand up and move on"
Crazy match scheduels playing againts cyprus away on 23 december
When the World Cup had just 16 or 24 teams, these play-offs between the big boys like Netherlands and Belgium were far more common
Then we had World Class Strikers and no defenders, now we World Class Defenders and no strikers...
I wouldn't write off our current attack. They've shown some really nice skills in the last few games.
Heb je weleens van topverdediger Ben Wijnstekers gehoord meneer Lap😂
It's a shame that the Netherlands missed out twice in the mid 80's Euro 1984 and World Cup 1986. The Total Football was already done by 1980 and Rinus Michels should have stayed as coach in the national team.
It was three times in a row; we also missed the 1982 World Cup.
But we did eventually win in 1988
It's a shame Belgium didn't make it in 74 (in 76 and 78, no room to argue, Oranje over alles).
Belgium made it even in 82 and 86.
Beenhakker (80 since August 2nd) couldn't solidify the defence, adjustment made less than 3 years later (Netherlands lost to Belgium in 1985)
Belgium as Netherlands failed to secure 1st place in their qualifiers despite potential. Looks like Oranje weren't ripe yet.
@@Ahito1984 perhaps I missunderstand, but why is it a shame Belgium missed the 1974 World Cup? They were in a group with the Netherlands, perhaps the best team on the planet at that time. Great achievement they played 0-0 against Oranje in both qualify games. If you speak about the disallowed goal in the last game; I can only agree with you, but also in that match NL was way better.
@Daniel Ironman Copperfield a no Cruyff
Don't forget Rob de Wit with his beautyful goal in Boedapest
Holland, the team that won The Euro 1988 two years later.
when football was pure simple & nice like all squads no Alaba
Simon Tahamata the game changer.
Hard to believe the same team (with different squad ofc) was the best in Europe just two years later...
Dear Holland fans, as an Englishman, I know your pain, you have my sympathy and I always cheer for you when you're not playing England.
I went through agony following this qualifying campaign.
The match in Budapest was brought in austrian tv. Without the goal less than 10 minutes before end Austria would have gone to the play off
Kieft was the star of this team ,and in the 88 winner team he was a substitute
Strikers came on went back then, Piet Houtman had a tremendous goal average but he was never called again (or left the National team). Bosman started in the beginning 11 in 1988, Van Basten was a substitute, too.
to be honest, this video proved that Holland wasn't good enough at that time . they even lost to Hungary and Austria
I like that Holland in WC 1998
I saw a lot of problems in 1984 (maybe still recovering from being thrown out off EC84), but the games played in 1985 showed a tremendous progression.
Naquela copa do mundo de 1986 , faltou duas grandes escolas de futebol , a Holanda e a Iugoslaviav, talvez se já tivesse as 32 seleções do Mundial atual com certeza elas estariam.🤔
Aquí en Sudamérica hubiera quedado chile para jugar repechaje
Hungría fue al mundial y dio una imagen vergonzosa que dio al traste su gran historia en los mundiales de fútbol
Había bajado el nivel futbolístico en esta época, no era una aplanadora como en los años 50’s y 60’s
Hacia falta la naranja mecánica en ese mundial del 86 en su lugar paso belgica con un futbol rocoso y con un gran arquero como pfaff
Belgium had better defenders and goal keeper.
2:09 Wereldgoal van Kieft.
in football you win and lose. That generation of Dutch national team reached the peak of its maturity at Euro'88
Hup the Netherlands from Malta
El mundial del 86 se perdió de ver a dos grandes como gullit y van basten ...creo q holanda tenia mejor equipo que belgica en ese entonces cuando disputaron el repechaje
ironicamente, Holanda salio segunda en su grupo detras de Hungria, que tuvo un pesimo desempeño en el mundial, recibiendo goleadas de la Urss y Francia (y desde entonces no se volvio a clasificar a una copa del mundo)
@@andres6868 , голландцы на Мундиале, в Мексике, получили голы в свои ворота и от Франции , и от СССР. Возможно не так много как венгры, но... Тогда, время Гуллита и Ван Бастена еще не наступило
@@andres6868in 1986 there were several mediocre european squads in Mexico, Netherlands not qualifying was a disgrace as the quality of playing was often not up to par.
Incredible qualification. In extremis, Belgium won the ticket to Méjico 86 versus Netherlands
Por el gol de visitante de los belgas
5:15 Esterhazy 'Piece of cake'
Peccato non aver potuto vedere questa Olanda ai mondiali di Mexico 86, i fuoriclasse non le mancavano.
Ero alle scuole medie allora, e mi ricordo che seguivo gli Orange fin dal 1982, quando non si qualificarono. Davo blandamente un occhio alle qualificazioni per Mexico 86 e, a un certo punto, pareva certo che l'Olanda ce l'avesse fatta. Immagina il mio disappunto quando vidi il Belgio al posto loro...
Actually Holland did not deserve to reach Play-off against Belgium, it was Austria.
Decepcionante selección holandesa que de manera increíble quedó fuera del mundial por medio de la repesca.
Tuvo una gran generación en los 70’s, fracasó en los 80’s y se reconcilió en los 90’s
Gano la Euro del 88...
@@joshuastam7704 lo único rescatable de los años 80’s
A great team that should have deserved better.
O jogador Polster da Áustria disputou a copa do mundo de 98 na França
Excellent qualification for Hungary, but horrible world championship
first match lost 6-0 virsus soviet union
what a pity that Nederland team didn´t make it
True. Absolutely disgraceful performance against the soviet Union.
Par contre, quelle équipe de Belgique ! Vercauteren, Van Den bergh, Van Der Elst, Gerets, pfaff, etc....
I agree, Netherlands should have qualified for Mexico ' 86 and
France '84. Superb team on paper.
The reason why they didn't, too much individualistic, egocententric opinionated infighting of players. Typical Dutch.
They were hopelessly naive at the back in defending. Their arrogance was inclined to take other teams for granted, hence why they lost matches that they should have won.
But most of the total football generation are winding down dramatically.
Algunos me parece que hablan al pedo,Belgica llego a la semifinal contra Argentina,y Argentina le gano y la aplasto por 2 a 0 y pasamos a la final del mundial de 1986 y salio Campeon No creo que Belgica sea peor o no se merecia ir al mundial y Holanda si.Son momentos,la defensa holandesa un desastre.
2-0 es aplastar? Holanda el 85 aun estaban explotando sus jugadores, Koeman, Rijkard, Van Basten y Gulit dominarian Europa del 87 al 92 ganando varias champions, la Euro el 88, semifinal de Euro el 92 (penales) ... solo necesitaban una temporada mas para llegar a su peak. La Argentina de Maradona la hubiese tenido mucho mas dificil contra esa Holanda que arranco muy mal el 84 las eliminatorias y despues no perdio mas
Unlucky...
The matches with Belgium are missing🤔
No, they are not. Watch till the end.
Whats that
Dutch team unlucky in FIFA World Cup tournaments !!
Josef Kiprich ging naar wk 86 en Holland niet😂
I am a fan of The Netherlands and I was a child but I remembered the games against Belgium was dramatic. Belgium has a good team but not better than Netherlands. Hungary was not better than Netherlands but qualified. It was very sad
I remember those matches, there were quality players in the Dutch national team but there was no team yet, Austria and Belgium deservedly won against them
belguim not graet on wk 1986 fourth are you crazy . shut up
Austria so unlucky
ja Thys gaat naar Mexico niet Nederland
La Hollande n'est pas qualifié pour le mondial mexico 1986
Euro 1980 1984 not qualified
Wc 1982 1986 not qualified.
Belgium better than Neth those years
Euro 1980 did qualify,
Интересно. Для венгров на чм уже первый матч все решил,а для нас бельгийцы,будь они неладны. Сколько почетных игроков в командах.
@КлетЧатЫй да .
Vanenburg was er nog niet.
Vanenburg was already playing in the National football team back in 1983
@@frankwells7520 true afcourse but he was left out of the team in 1986. In 1990 he wasn t playing either.
Vanenburg was gepasseerd door Leo Beenhakker
Dram die Beenhakker. Ik zit nog weleens beelden van Marco van Basten te kijken op youtube. Waanneer je zijn doelpunten bij ajax ziet, komt zo´n beetje 75% van de assists van de voet van Vanenburg,@@Davidvalk-p1h
Very bad performance by the Dutch. Very bad organisation. They conceded an unnecessary goal in a very bad time from Belgium. The distribution of their goals between the matches is not good. They scored so many unnecessary goals against Cyprus which should have been scored elsewhere.
So sad....😭😭😭😭😭
Awful defending in general from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 😩
stupid holland lost to Hungary 2-1 because Hun missed a penalty! should of been a minimum of 3-1!!!
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@@Tity19761 ne röhögj
@@kinkytailmapogo176 ne fütyülj ☝🏻😊
Leo why? For monet 😁
No Dutch !!! 🦆
Very bad rules , only team calification of grup , mot 2 like now. Many best team not calification.