I totally understand the comments about Whitesnakes' 1987. Being familiar only with the older albums, I was surprised by the heaviness of it when it came out. Except for "Is This Love" it is a metal album done by a "hair metal" looking band. Talking about its title - I think it was selftitled in the US and 1987 in Europe.
Parish I believe the box set Music to crash your car too has the original Leathur records mix but I don't know if it is still in print also expanded CD versions of Too Fast... has the unedited Too Fast For Love song and Stick to your guns
Sweet Cut Above The Rest . Great album but they sound like a different band. The follow up in the USA was titled Sweet 6 . It was their 6th Capital records album but if you count the one album for Bell records it's actually their 7th USA album.
My Top 3 YES albums all feature a different keyboard player (Relayer, Going For The One, Drama). They are all YES. Andrew's head must explode when considering who/what is King Crimson then! GREAT show!
Some great choices Parish love that Darkness album. Agree with Kiss surly they had more songs to fill out side 4 from the sets used. Had to look up that Def Leppard album and X is their 8th studio album and the ten refers to it being the 10th release overall if you include Vault and Retroactive. Also Motley Crue had a cd boxset called Music To Crash Your Car To vol 1 with the first 4 albums and Too Fast has Leathur mix and Electra mix of 1 cd.
Gotta be a Contrarian myself by disagreeing with Andrew. I think Yes - "Drama" is a great and authentic part of their discography and Iron Maiden - "Fear Of The Dark" is a pretty sold record.
Great show - Mine would be AC/DC Powerage - My favourite album by the band but I lost my original vinyl over the years now any new version omits Cold Hearted Man for some bizarre reason, dragging it down from a 10 to a 9 - Annoying!
Drama is on my list and I agree that 90125 also drives me crazy. Drama is a great album. Single live albums (Derringer live) also drive me crazy and ANY post 1986 Aerosmith. Last but certainly not least is Rainbow On Stage. Mistreated takes up a whole side! Ahhh!!!
If expectation weighs soo heavily in your musical appreciation, you should consider a new pastime because anything new and fresh that challenges your status quo wont uptake anyway. Most great bands have already forever changed during the time they've entered and left the studio. I recognize this is the basis of almost every youtube music discussion but its like the futility of teaching water to flow uphill
So Parish you make good points but another stupid thing is that Hard Luck Woman and Tomorrow and Tonight are recorded in sound checks with crowd noise dubbed in. Neither were played in concert. Though Do You Love Me and Hooligan could have been on there. Because they were played live. Paul and Gene have said that they didn’t want to repeat any of the songs from Alive! So that’s why they didn’t have enough songs to make another album side with non Alive songs from the L.A. shows they recorded Alive II at 😝😁
Be Quick Or Be Dead terrible? What’s this guy talking about? It’s fantastic. Fear Of The Dark is a great album by the way. Never understood the hate. I have no problem with that Styx album either. Love Is The Ritual is great
To me, the Adrian Smith-less Maiden is their lowest point (No Prayer to Virtual XI). Of course, the first one is great without him. People complained about Blaze Bayley but I really don't think he was the problem at all. In fact, I think The X Factor is a pretty good album. Dark and the music fitted his voice more than Virtual XI.
Pyromania is definitely def leppards last great album. Nothing after that compares to the 1st three. Especially High and Dry, which is a classic and one of the best albums ever
Yes, Parish! Thank you for bringing up KISS Alive 2. Side four, all studio tracks, has annoyed the shit out of me since I first purchased it years ago. Keep it live or keep it studio. I hate the hodge podge mix.
Why fill up CD's to the max ? Muneeeee. More royalties. As far as sequencing is concerned, I burned a copy of Journey's Escape album with sides one and two inverted. It's much better that way round.
I’ll have to give that a go. You royalties comment is interesting. That might be partly it, but I guess it depends who wrote the extra songs & whether that dilutes the royalties for rest of the songs.
Gotta disagree with Drama. To me, it’s more Yes than any of the Trevor Rabin albums. Love those albums, but sound less like “classic” Yes than Drama. Great topic.
I love Fear of the Dark, but I do agree that "Weekend Warrior" is a garbage filler song that should have been left off for a b-side. The rest of the album is great though. I love Fear of the Dark much more than No Prayer for the Dying.
Especially as it was a hodgepodge of the 2nd ABWH album with Chris doing backing vocals and some bass, with whatever Rabin, Squire and White had with Jon singing.
Have to disagree with Andrew. Drama is a great YES album. And Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are Sabbath albums even though they don't have the original singer!
Applies to all Pink Floyd albums, sadly, to me nowadays as I cant listen to them (and I loved Pink Floyd ) because I can't get the thought of knobhead Waters out of my head. It has totally ruined the band to my ears. I can't avoid it.
My kids love(d) 'Get Your Hands Off Of My Woman' - they hear all these words at school anyways - deal with swearing head on I say / nothing wrong with swearing, its when you choose and how often you do (I bought the ltd 7" when it came out and the album on vinyl - great stuff)
@@fclefjefff4041 its the context. I clearly am not content listening to something produced by someone I have grown to detest. Thats not 'fickle' it's feeling. One is free to choose what they do and don't listen to.
Supertramp: Famous Last Words. Four great songs with the excellence of their previous four albums, one decent song, the rest is utter crap. Could have been so much better, but Roger Hodgson was holding his good songs for his solo album, and wouldn't participate in Rick Davies songs that ended up on the post-Hodgson album Brother Where You Bound, with Davies substituting songs that were inferior
@jeffreyswanson2207 what, pray tell, is so great about the utter crap called It's Raining Again, the dissonant droning called Bonnie, the silly pop dreck called Crazy, and the mediocre(at best) Put On Your Old Brown Shoes?
@@cabowabodude Things generally get overplayed because they’re so good and successful. I’ve never understood that argument. I like Adrenalize Slang and Euphoria
I love Drama. Asian angers me. A supergroup,of mediocre music. The most innovated musicians in rock put together a band to write songs to out Foreigner Foreigner.
So Parish you make good points but another stupid thing is that Hard Luck Woman and Tomorrow and Tonight are recorded in sound checks with crowd noise dubbed in. Neither were played in concert. Though Do You Love Me and Hooligan could have been on there. Because they were played live. Paul and Gene have said that they didn’t want to repeat any of the songs from Alive! So that’s why they didn’t have enough songs to make another album side with non Alive songs from the L.A. shows they recorded Alive II at 😝😁
So Parish you make good points but another stupid thing is that Hard Luck Woman and Tomorrow and Tonight are recorded in sound checks with crowd noise dubbed in. Neither were played in concert. Though Do You Love Me and Hooligan could have been on there. Because they were played live. Paul and Gene have said that they didn’t want to repeat any of the songs from Alive! So that’s why they didn’t have enough songs to make another album side with non Alive songs from the L.A. shows they recorded Alive II at 😝😁
Drama, a classic, 100 percent yes
I love DRAMA, period.
I totally understand the comments about Whitesnakes' 1987. Being familiar only with the older albums, I was surprised by the heaviness of it when it came out. Except for "Is This Love" it is a metal album done by a "hair metal" looking band.
Talking about its title - I think it was selftitled in the US and 1987 in Europe.
That makes sense with the album title.
Aynsley Dunbar and Neil Murray aren't hair metal looking. John Sykes maybe. Coverdale was glammed up a bit. The guys in the videos definitely were.
@ From memory so were the guys in the Kerrang! photos, but I agree.
Al Stewart's Indian Summer is another one with three live sides & one with studio tracks.
Parish I believe the box set Music to crash your car too has the original Leathur records mix but I don't know if it is still in print also expanded CD versions of Too Fast... has the unedited Too Fast For Love song and Stick to your guns
Thanks Elder.
Sweet Cut Above The Rest . Great album but they sound like a different band. The follow up in the USA was titled Sweet 6 . It was their 6th Capital records album but if you count the one album for Bell records it's actually their 7th USA album.
Good shout, those last 3 Sweet albums all fit this topic. Imagine how they would have sounded with BC singing.
I was entertained! Thank You!!!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Drama is my second favorite Yes album. 😂
GREAT show ! Loved the discussion. Hope you'll do it again.
Glad you enjoyed it Eric.
My Top 3 YES albums all feature a different keyboard player (Relayer, Going For The One, Drama). They are all YES. Andrew's head must explode when considering who/what is King Crimson then! GREAT show!
Thanks Gregory! Great point on KC.
Also - completely agree about Sandanista
technically KISS Alive 2 is 4 sides studio apparently it was almost totally reworked in the studio...
I guess, but I still like to think of it as love. Easily fooled I guess😮🤣
I think it's more live than the first one....they added back up vocals...but it's mostly live
Some great choices Parish love that Darkness album. Agree with Kiss surly they had more songs to fill out side 4 from the sets used. Had to look up that Def Leppard album and X is their 8th studio album and the ten refers to it being the 10th release overall if you include Vault and Retroactive. Also Motley Crue had a cd boxset called Music To Crash Your Car To vol 1 with the first 4 albums and Too Fast has Leathur mix and Electra mix of 1 cd.
Thanks Philip. That makes sense with X.
Gotta be a Contrarian myself by disagreeing with Andrew. I think Yes - "Drama" is a great and authentic part of their discography and Iron Maiden - "Fear Of The Dark" is a pretty sold record.
Great show - Mine would be AC/DC Powerage - My favourite album by the band but I lost my original vinyl over the years now any new version omits Cold Hearted Man for some bizarre reason, dragging it down from a 10 to a 9 - Annoying!
Drama is on my list and I agree that 90125 also drives me crazy. Drama is a great album. Single live albums (Derringer live) also drive me crazy and ANY post 1986 Aerosmith. Last but certainly not least is Rainbow On Stage. Mistreated takes up a whole side! Ahhh!!!
Good picks Craig.
If expectation weighs soo heavily in your musical appreciation, you should consider a new pastime because anything new and fresh that challenges your status quo wont uptake anyway. Most great bands have already forever changed during the time they've entered and left the studio. I recognize this is the basis of almost every youtube music discussion but its like the futility of teaching water to flow uphill
True, but as fans it’s fun to have a rant every now & then. 😉
Louder please!! I need my speakers to distort all the way through the show.
Hysteria is a pop rock album whitesnake is a hard rock one
Whitesnake album is cock rock or glam rock.
So Parish you make good points but another stupid thing is that Hard Luck Woman and Tomorrow and Tonight are recorded in sound checks with crowd noise dubbed in. Neither were played in concert. Though Do You Love Me and Hooligan could have been on there. Because they were played live. Paul and Gene have said that they didn’t want to repeat any of the songs from Alive! So that’s why they didn’t have enough songs to make another album side with non Alive songs from the L.A. shows they recorded Alive II at 😝😁
Fair enough. But why didn’t Kiss think ahead & play / record a few more songs from those 3 albums?
@ true. Which brings us back to your original point. 😂😂
Drama is my favorite YES Album, but I was glad to Jon Anderson back for 90125 & my one & only time saw YES.
About Bryan Adams, Into the Fire is definitely his best album ! All 10 tracks on Into the Fire are great songs !
I really like ITF too.
@@parishofrock2963 That's good to hear. After ITF I did not care about Bryan Adams anymore, too many sappy ballads and bad albums.
@ I definitely agree about the ballads!
Parish.... what about Toto or Boston as possible best debut rock albums ever?
Definitely up there. Along with Van Halen, Asia, Boomtown Rats & Foreigner.
Be Quick Or Be Dead terrible? What’s this guy talking about? It’s fantastic. Fear Of The Dark is a great album by the way. Never understood the hate.
I have no problem with that Styx album either. Love Is The Ritual is great
Love No Prayer also
Fear is not a great album it’s a good one. Better than the blaze turds.
To me, the Adrian Smith-less Maiden is their lowest point (No Prayer to Virtual XI). Of course, the first one is great without him. People complained about Blaze Bayley but I really don't think he was the problem at all. In fact, I think The X Factor is a pretty good album. Dark and the music fitted his voice more than Virtual XI.
Pyromania is definitely def leppards last great album. Nothing after that compares to the 1st three. Especially High and Dry, which is a classic and one of the best albums ever
Yes, Parish! Thank you for bringing up KISS Alive 2. Side four, all studio tracks, has annoyed the shit out of me since I first purchased it years ago. Keep it live or keep it studio. I hate the hodge podge mix.
Couldn’t have put it better myself!😂
‘ Cryan’ Adams lol
🤣🤣🤣good one.
Music To Crash Your Car To - Volume I (Terrible title) has the original Leathür mix. Shame you have to buy an entire boxset to get it.
Never knew that, thanks
And it was only available for a short time. Maybe due to the bad title!.
Why fill up CD's to the max ? Muneeeee. More royalties. As far as sequencing is concerned, I burned a copy of Journey's Escape album with sides one and two inverted. It's much better that way round.
I’ll have to give that a go. You royalties comment is interesting. That might be partly it, but I guess it depends who wrote the extra songs & whether that dilutes the royalties for rest of the songs.
Gotta disagree with Drama. To me, it’s more Yes than any of the Trevor Rabin albums. Love those albums, but sound less like “classic” Yes than Drama. Great topic.
I love Fear of the Dark, but I do agree that "Weekend Warrior" is a garbage filler song that should have been left off for a b-side. The rest of the album is great though. I love Fear of the Dark much more than No Prayer for the Dying.
I gotta laugh at the boomers calling songs with simple F bombs "obscene." "Get Your Hands Off of My Woman" is a pro-woman song, btw.
Judging by the number of kids at Darkness concerts you could be right!
Yes, Union, just because it was even thought of to make.
I am grateful "Union" was created. The idea to bring these musicians onto one album across multiple different tracks.
Especially as it was a hodgepodge of the 2nd ABWH album with Chris doing backing vocals and some bass, with whatever Rabin, Squire and White had with Jon singing.
Have to disagree with Andrew. Drama is a great YES album. And Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are Sabbath albums even though they don't have the original singer!
Applies to all Pink Floyd albums, sadly, to me nowadays as I cant listen to them (and I loved Pink Floyd ) because I can't get the thought of knobhead Waters out of my head. It has totally ruined the band to my ears. I can't avoid it.
My kids love(d) 'Get Your Hands Off Of My Woman' - they hear all these words at school anyways - deal with swearing head on I say / nothing wrong with swearing, its when you choose and how often you do (I bought the ltd 7" when it came out and the album on vinyl - great stuff)
It’s weird that you’re so fickle that you can “love” music one day and it’s unlistenable the next, but okay 🤷♂️
@@fclefjefff4041 its the context. I clearly am not content listening to something produced by someone I have grown to detest. Thats not 'fickle' it's feeling. One is free to choose what they do and don't listen to.
Same reason I ditched the Ted Bundy Greatest Hits LP 😂🤷♂
@@craigburgess7105 No one said you aren’t free to choose what you want to listen to 😂
Supertramp: Famous Last Words. Four great songs with the excellence of their previous four albums, one decent song, the rest is utter crap. Could have been so much better, but Roger Hodgson was holding his good songs for his solo album, and wouldn't participate in Rick Davies songs that ended up on the post-Hodgson album Brother Where You Bound, with Davies substituting songs that were inferior
Great album. Great Tour.
@jeffreyswanson2207 what, pray tell, is so great about the utter crap called It's Raining Again, the dissonant droning called Bonnie, the silly pop dreck called Crazy, and the mediocre(at best) Put On Your Old Brown Shoes?
Good choice
Thats why i cant stand Brian Adams , too many ballads
It’s about 50/50 but I can see your point totally.
i'm sorry but pyromania is NOT def leppard's last good record!!!
Of course not. They hadn’t even got to Hysteria yet. Who said that anyway? I must have missed that part
@@JCStorm76 grant said it!!
@@cabowabodude A lot of people dismiss Hysteria. For the life of me I don’t know why. It’s a masterpiece
@@JCStorm76 absolutely!! is it overplayed? probably so, still doesn't make it less of a masterpiece. i'd also put slang in the same category as well!
@@cabowabodude Things generally get overplayed because they’re so good and successful. I’ve never understood that argument. I like Adrenalize Slang and Euphoria
The British guy’s audio is SO bad- he’s got a big microphone there but it’s clipping or something, Jesus please help him
I’ll have a look into that Matthew.
I love Drama. Asian angers me. A supergroup,of mediocre music. The most innovated musicians in rock put together a band to write songs to out Foreigner Foreigner.
& imo they do a great job but I understand why it would wind you up!
So Parish you make good points but another stupid thing is that Hard Luck Woman and Tomorrow and Tonight are recorded in sound checks with crowd noise dubbed in. Neither were played in concert. Though Do You Love Me and Hooligan could have been on there. Because they were played live. Paul and Gene have said that they didn’t want to repeat any of the songs from Alive! So that’s why they didn’t have enough songs to make another album side with non Alive songs from the L.A. shows they recorded Alive II at 😝😁
So Parish you make good points but another stupid thing is that Hard Luck Woman and Tomorrow and Tonight are recorded in sound checks with crowd noise dubbed in. Neither were played in concert. Though Do You Love Me and Hooligan could have been on there. Because they were played live. Paul and Gene have said that they didn’t want to repeat any of the songs from Alive! So that’s why they didn’t have enough songs to make another album side with non Alive songs from the L.A. shows they recorded Alive II at 😝😁