You typically get what you pay for but I must admit some of the kit I bought from Lidl has proven to be the hardest wearing and most comfortable gear I own!
FDX clothing from ebay is great stuff, long and short leg bib shorts and tops, gloves and rainwear all good. I've had some for a few years now, so quite hard wearing. Gear from Aldi is usually quite wearable. Their gloves usually last longer than premium brands. I gradually upgraded helmet and others bits (e.g. my trisuit to a huub), but for general training rides I still use a lot of cheap stuff.
In motorcycling you want expensive kit and a cheap bike so I bought expensive kit and aero bars and strapped those to an $80 Dutch upright bike. Honestly got me in great shape that first year.
This feels poor from you guys for once. The absolute cheapest stuff possible, in incorrect sizes, and deliberately worn incorrectly (shorts)? Feels like it's been done in bad faith. The answer might end up being the same (save up and buy higher quality), but guess we'll never know!
Hi Dave, we tried to take this on with a 'mistakes we've made when we started cycling' vibe. It wasn't supposed to trash cheap products but be a comedic take on where sometimes it's better to save up for something higher quality. We think we've got the balance right but apologies if not.
@@gcntech Thanks for clarifying, makes more sense that way - still think y'all should do a test of trying to find legitimate budget gear - you can easily still spin it to promote branded gear by framing it on a multi-day backpacking trip or long ride while being honest - as while cheap-mid range items are good if you size them right...they're only good for so long. After a few hours the shammies get a bit...worthless and full of water. The jersey begins to chaff or worse gets waterlogged and is unable to be fully zipped down...etc. Personally I find decathlon stuff is actually good for the price - but still most no-name no-brand stuff off amazon/aliexpress to be quite sub-par unless you're a very beginner just going for 10-20km rides once or twice a week.
@@gcntech thanks for the reply - do keep up the great work and content! Interesting take - it makes a lot more sense that way, even if it doesn't come across (to me) in the video. Also interesting points about bib vs non-bib shorts; I'd never thought about that. They might carry more weight if the Amazon ones had been given a proper chance (correctly sized/worn etc), but watching Ollie put them on was admitedly hilarious 🙈 See you on the next one! 🤟
@@gcntech I think the video would’ve been more helpful if you’d bought appropriate sizes and worn the shorts correctly (despite the website images, they’re clearly inside out!). Still good for a ‘festive cheer’ video though.
I've always had good experiences with Wiggle's dhb brand. Slightly more expensive than Amazon etc but you always know you're getting something solid that's actually made for cyclists rather than for looks. Also most (not all) Lifeline products are good - I have a dirt-cheap track pump from them that's good as new after 3 years in a shed.
Agreed re DHB. Today in the South East of England it's poured down all day, and been pretty blustery too. I went out on my XC bike wearing DHB waterproof gloves. Hammering around off road for a couple of hours, my hands were warm and dry. The gloves were twenty quid.
I needed some lace shoes to go with my retro bikes and the DHB ones are really excellent. I did take the advice on sizing from reviewers on their page, which worked out.
Totally agree with you about this bro as it's a matter of what suits you best both for pocket & essentially what you need for your cycling experience..., 👊🏾👍🏾
The shorts are meant to be worn under pants (and not inside out, of course). For MTB when you're wearing knee pads and some protection so bib shorts are not an option.
Absolutely...., & at the same time can we see a list of the top shelve most expensive as my kit ranges from the Specialized S Works range in helmets & footwear to Castelli cycle wear where i must profess that all my cycle clothing are by Castelli to the tune of £2,700 where its a combination of jackets, long & short sleave jerseys bib tights long & short, winter & summer, base layers long & short, Helmets ( times 2 ) one in black & the other in white Evade 2 with MIPS & not forgetting my Aries S Works footwear x2 in black & the other in white & also my old durable & realiable most go too in the Specialized Torch 2.0 cycle shoe & yes every single one of my kit comes in black...., i ride a black Merida 2020 Reacto 105 hydraulic disc which i have since upgraded to the Ultegra version & 40mm carbon hand built rims compliments of Owen Wheels ( Master Wheel builder ) out of Rat Race Cycles, Nunhead in South East London...., 👊🏾👍🏾
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@@2wheelsrbest327 😂🤣😂....,nothing to do with being brave bruv but way of life & where i come from with the added bonus of being 6ft 2 & weight in at 218lbs not much to be really scared about..., 👊🏾👍🏾
The problem is cycling is also wrapped up in vanity, and perceived elitism. What kit are you wearing ? What bike are you riding? Its all BS, and if the bike manufacturers aren't trying to get you for $5000 for a "decent" entry level bike nowadays, then every other aspect of cycling DEMANDS cool kit at huge prices ! There are plenty of good values to be found on Amazon and Ebay for less expensive biking kit. Lets face it $80-120 for a jersey is ridiculous - If vanity is your goal - after only a jersey, bib shorts, socks, shoes helmet, glasses and gloves, one could be in the hole for many hundreds of dollars, if not over the $1,000 mark just for the privilege of riding your bike ? I am tough on my clothes - gravel and stuff happens. I am not blowing the budget on clothing that will see huge wear and tear. A nice helmet, sure, decent glasses and head unit, OK. But cycling kit is just ridiculous !!
Making a funny episode is all nice and well but many cyclists don't have the money for expensive branded cycling kits especially when they are starting out and have to buy a lot of equipment at once. What would have been helpful is for you to make an episode with cheaper kits from Aliexpress/Amazon and rate which one of them is actually useful for people starting out that are on a budget.
Agree. This video is all about encouraging viewers to buy expensive products from their rich sponsors. if you are smart & do some research, you can find much better quality products online at much cheaper prices than what Alex & Ollie bought.
There are many good budget options. I've had a lot of stuff from Lidl over the years and it all has been very durable. Decathlon kit is also great. AliExpress wise, I have good experience with Rionbike. Almost 2 years ago I bought 2 jerseys from Neopro, they're my favorite and only 30-40 bucks each. They don't have an european warehouse anymore, unfortunately.
We don't do reviews of specific products on GCN so wanted to make something which looked at cheaper products more broadly to guide in that way... with a bit of comedy chucked in too! 😂
@@gcntech I get that you have sponsor responsibilities but you are already branded up the wazoo so once in a while episode catered to budget options regarding kit/bicycles/etc could also be good for you as well (regarding views). I bet there are a lot more of us beginners/amateurs watching your videos than Tadej Pogačar's wannabies cladded in Castelli from head to toe ;)
Cycling kit doesn't HAVE to cost a lot. Siroko offers excellent value for money, and the quality is good, Van Rysel from Decathlon offers pretty good value too. I have a few higher-end pieces of kit for events, but for training and commuting, it doesn't need to cost an arm and a leg. It would be interesting if you compared "budget" brands like Siroko, Van Rysel, ... and higher-end stuff like Le Col or Santini. Buying the cheapest of the cheapest is fine for shits and giggles, but it doesn't provide real value for most of us who look at price/quality equations.
I just got into road riding about 2 months ago. Bought my gear off Amazon.winter thermal jacket and winter thermal bib pants. Absolutely love them . Very good quality and low cost. Also those shorts only reason the company has a picture of pad on outside is to show you that the shorts do have a pad. Common Spence says pad does on inside. Duh.😂 and one place I don’t cheap out on is helmet and shoes.
You might have found the shorts more comfortable if you’d worn them properly. I have several pairs of Baleaf shorts and tights and they’re perfectly acceptable.
From my short experience in the cycling world, don't skimp on the helmet and lights besides the bike itself. All other stuff like a kit has been fine skimping on from my experience. I have bought several cheap shorts off of Amazon, and some are great to wear for cycling. The only reason I say don't buy cheap helmets and lights is that there is a huge difference between good helmets and cheap helmets that I found after having a little accident as I wore a cheap helmet. Now I fork out however much money on the helmets without hesitation. The same with lights because cheap lights just don't put out enough lumens to see well besides being seen by others when it is dark, so, again, I figured just fork out the cash on lights to get it right from the get-go.
One of the funniest videos you guys have done for a while, love it! I’ve now added those lights to my basket, for the price they will be handy to add to a back pack, helmet or whatever for added visibility.
I commute all winter 150 miles a week in fdx kit good fit works a treat. I can have three pairs of fdx bib tights for the price of one pair of raphas. Dry fresh tights every day.
As a card-carrying cheapskate I enjoyed this video except for the jersey/shorts part where clearly the wrong sizes made it pointless and the saddle cover is just silly. In my own experience, the place where you want to spend money is in the bib shorts (and I have excellent ones that cost me only US$40 from The Black Bibs in the US), shoes and gloves, all of which are contact points. There are plenty of inexpensive jerseys for sale that actually do fit--I discovered this when I bought some retro-design jerseys on E-Bay for US$ 25. The material is certainly not as high-end as the aero stuff from Le Col, for example, but is still quite acceptable. My winter bib tights, of which I have two pairs, have lasted me for more than a decade and were purchased at a German coffee shop chain famous for bringing in bargain stuff on a seasonal basis! The lights in this video seem really fit for purpose so perhaps more budget electronics can be covered in future--I have bought heart rate monitors and cadence sensors for a fraction of what established brands charge and they work beautifully. And that helmet is pretty cool--I just wish the Chinese would leave off the weird names on their products!
Obviously, the absolute cheapest stuff will be trash. Although I have a pair of 25 euro AliExpress special bibs that I've been using for 3 years. They fit well and their size chart was actually trustworthy (unlike castelli 😀) the lycra feels good and has not become transparent. They are at the end of their life now, seams are falling apart and chamois is a bit flat now, but it was well worth the price.
Those are padded undershort. You're supposed to wear a regular short over it for commuting. The picture was to show you the inside, not to show you how to wear it.
Would have liked a more honest test with properly sized kit, bib shorts, etc. I ride Amazon kit and also high end kit. The difference is less pronounced if you go just a bit higher than bottom barrel
A winner are the backlight that lit up when you brake, best purchase ever. SPD pedals are better than Shimanos.... you just have to be selective.... Even the powermeter is a nice buy!
Now we know that Team GCN is afraid of Ollies improvement from dropped to dropper, that they actively try to sabotage him with wrong sized and cheap clothing
I´m sorry but the first time I saw Ollie coming through the bushes and then display the itens at the side of the road just made me really LOL and throughout the video I just cackled!!!! Fair-play Ollie Fairplay!! Great 2023 to all GCN team!
Really good video, but I don’t think it tell you very much about Ali cycling stuff. First, the seat cover is made for commuting and are great for cycling with jeans in a hard saddle. Second, I agree with most of the helmet stuff but you should remember that you can get the low end giro or Specialized helmets for around the same price on sale (and they usually fit better). Third, the shorts must be the worst Ali buy ever. I have several Ali bibs at the same price and they feel and look like normal bibs (also owning several pairs of Assos and Rapha). Yes, on longer rides - above 2-3 hours - they don’t feel as good but quality wise that have stood up to many many washes without any sign of low quality. In regards to shirts, I do agree that the premium brands feels nicer, but for anyone who hasn’t tried a premium brand they would be perfectly fine - given the right size of course!
Must admit I had always bought cheaper cycling gear in the past until I had some spare cash and bought some Castelli kit! Wow what a difference in fit, quality etc…As they say you get what you pay for!
Great point about certification of the helmet. Speaking of the rest of the kit, non-certified colouring of the fabric might be an issue in the long run.
10:26 omfg, CE is a safety rating for choking hazards and electrocution, you can slap it on anything large that doesn't plug into a wall. My country has an entire certification just for bicycle helmets, this helmet can't even be sold here on eBay etc
Have a few Chinese helmets with visors when I started cycling. I crashed once head dived to pavement while wearing one. Guess what, saved my life and my face. If the visor wasn't there I would have scrapped my eyes and eye browse and look alot worst. The helmet did its job for me and the visor surprisingly did not shatter or even crack at the impact close to my temple. Helmet was from Amazon with hundreds of reviews. There are some good cheap stuff that do work
in general i dont feel very comfortable bying something new thats so cheep i could not even emagine how they cover f.ex the shiping cost of the components or anything else.a led bikelamp with batteries for 2€ delivered sounds like something is very odd in the production.....
Do not be so quick to dismiss the saddle cover! I have a wheel on Kickr Snap indoor trainer (without the fancy rocking arms of the premium tier) and I cannot shake off horrible saddle soreness when riding indoors. I have a Selle Italia saddle which is beautiful out on the road and provides all day comfort when paired with bib shorts . Yet, on the trainer, I get plunged into pain in under 20 minutes. Slapping this gel saddle cover on opens up that window of pain free riding to nearly 80 minutes. Not a bad return for something so relatively inexpensive vs a more expensive trainer or spending beyond £100 to get an indoor trainer specific bib short - if they even exist?
Of course the cheapest of the cheap isn't so good, but that doesn't mean you need to buy Castelli instead. Off of Amazon, I've had good luck with Spotti and Prezwalski, which aren't cool but aren't crap either, and they're about half the price of the premium brands.
Aldi is even better value...picked up helmets there reduced to £2.99 that fit my huge bonce better than most "premium" ones...also got a superb bike work stand reduced to £9.99.... but for reliable decent kit at good discount I just monitor the sales/discounts on the usual big mail order sites (Wiggle/CRC, Tredz, Winstanleys, Merlin etc)
As is the case in many other areas, while the bottom of the barrel is the cheapest, it is far from the best value. In the budget space adding an extra 10-20 often gets you serious improvements. I am currently using a $20ish light set, and it is actually bright enough to let me see the road & ride at night. Plus its rechargeable and has a ton of different brightness modes. As for those shorts, im pretty sure they are so short because they are supposed to be worn under other clothes.. I see them show up on amazon all the time, and the reviews are terrible, save a little more and get a pair that is actually good, your butt will thank you. The saddle advice is absolutely true, I lent my old hybrid to a friend, and he got one of those $20 saddles that are 4 in thick,. Do not recommend! I cant stand to ride it for more than 10 minutes now, whereas I could do hours with no bib shorts before.
My question is, does Alex knew that Ollie will end up wearing the jersey and the shirt? How did he manipulate the coin that Ollie was holding? 😂😂😂. Thank you guys for the info and the laughs.
To be fair the front lights are great when CTT decide to force people to have a front light and you want a small one you can put on an aero bar last minute that looks kind of aero
I won't skimp on bike parts. But my helmet-mounted front and rear lights are under $10 each (very reliable). I'll buy deeply discounted biike shorts and jerseys from Pearl Izumi, Castelli. My helmets are cheaper (under $50) as I change them every 3 years (as recommended) as long as they meet CPSC/ASTM/Snell standards.
I choose cycling shorts over bibs any day, my hips are slim and my upper body long, so the suspenders tend to press down. Any idea why there are no adjustable suspenders in bibs available?
Maybe this has been mentioned but, It may be those shorts are actually liner shorts. Not going to change the fact they suck, but aesthetically you might save the embarrassment.
Keep up with the comedy. Because it shows this channel in it’s true values. For someone just starting out cheap stuff from Amazon is a revelation, compare the Amazon stuff to riding in under wear and shorts, then the mid price fdx (other brands are available) for shorter 2 hour rides (and commuting) and then the top brands. From experience we all know that what you gain in performance you loose in durability. Comedy videos like this add nothing to your channel and undermine your supposed technical features. Your editor should have canned this and the puddle video at the ideas stage. Unless of course it was a click bate revenue generator.
Entertaining and Agree most about cheap Amazon cycling products. But I kinda love my Amazon cheap jersey. Instead of trying the cheapest from Amazon, Can you do a vid of trying the best seller ones from Amazon, with the right size of course?
LOL, that was horrible, poor Ollie! But also really hilarious. I have to say though, if you're careful about Amazon purchases, you can get some big wins. For me, the brand "Uriah", oddly labeled "Miloto" on the actual gear has been a win. $40 U.S. for jersey and shorts, 34 colorways, and I actually quite like them. Fit is very good, materials seem good, and shockingly, the shorts are actually good as well! And if you're not pleased, simple return!
Hey Guys, I am struggling to find a good reasonable priced pair of prescription sunglasses, can you do a video on this subject? I'm sure there are lots of cyclist in the same boat.
I can't believe they're still not addressing the used market. If you're new to cycling and poor don't buy a shitty bike. Buy a decent used bike for less money. In the current market a 10s road bike is a great deal with great availability of quality used parts.
Think those shorts were under shorts, not meant to be used as you did, however, funny seeing Ollie dressed up like that. Get Connor in it, that would be a laugh. By him small in everything, but just get that "modesty screen blurring edit tool" at the ready. 🤔🤔🤣🤣
There's a hell a lot of snobbery attached to cycling - and unless this is just intended to be a throwaway funny video, it's kind of reinforcing that snobbery. I mainly buy mid-range, less-known branded kit and it's absolutely fine. The few times I have ventured into buying the brands that get product-placed on GCN, the items have fallen to bits after just a few outings. I love the GCN channels, but videos like this seem to back up the suspicion that the channel is a little too much at the mercy of the corporate sponsors. I don't imagine we'd ever see a video doing a fair test of the top-range brands vs mid-range. Hope to be proved wrong :-)
A couple of years back I bought some 'Speed' shoes. Fantastic. Double boas, options for both types of cleats. Felt as comfortable as anything. £50. My other shoes are top of the range Fiziks, but I got £170 off of those.
I've also have this speed shoes only with single dial, but comfortable? They are a bit flexy, but most importantly, very poorly ventilated. I found them useful only for commuting, rides up to half an hour in chilly mornings and many times bad weather, where poor ventilation is welcome. Other than that I have a pair of 100€ Northwaves, but I like the most my Time Osmos 10 and Osmos 15 👍.
I bought the Speed shoes for $19 as my first experiment in clipless pedals (along with some $30 pedals). About 1000 miles later I'm still pretty happy. I'm sure at some point I'll get better kit, but that will be after those wear out.
I really enjoy your videos but joking apart there is a limit of bias. Terrible sizing of jersey was one thing but with the shorts you crossed the line. It is not fun it just hits at your credibility. I would prefer a more real life test paying a few more £ where materials/stitching are much better, the comparison I think would be more interesting and useful. But would you do that when you sell your own? Shorts: clearly marked as underwear shorts and they should be used as such. And not be worn inside out because there was a photo of them to show the padding. They are shorter than normal as they are supposed to be used under some other non padded shorts or tights. I use a similar model for easy family rides with normal shorts or trousers. Their padding is not as good as proper shorts or bib shorts but they are ok if used properly and have lasted. And they have scored very well on amazon. Helmet: EC certification sticker even if not fake is not all. I am thinking quality of materials that will not last, irritating and slippery straps that do not keep their position and so on. At the last black Friday there were branded helmets for less that £10. £20 for a no name is too much I think to buy blindly. Ollie, when your knees are at the top they make an outwards-inwards move. Is this movement acceptable? Apart from possible aero cost could it strain your knee ligaments? Is is something you could improve on with cleat adjustment etc?
If you're sharing your thoughts on budget kit ... At least get the right size and wear the shorts right-side in. Not really a fair comparison otherwise.
Guys, I used to use those Baleaf cycling shorts. You're wearing them inside out (the photo is taken that way just to show the pad,) and they're meant to be cycling underpants. I used them for a while for work commuting, wearing them as underpants under synthetic trousers that I wore all day at work. I stopped using them when I no longer needed them (toughened up) because they got a bit clammy worn for my whole work day if it was warm on my ride in.
It was pretty obvious Ollie was wearing them inside out, I was wondering if I was the only one noticing that. And the jersey... come on, a regular T-shirt will do just fine, but to choose XXXL for a thin man like Ollie and then say it's a bad choice of jersey, NOT of size... it is just a tad too much. I wear stuff from Decathlon and a CUBE pair of underwear shorts and I'm just fine.
I almost fell off my chair laughing so hard after seeing Ollie come out from behind the trees in his budget kit, PRICELESS!!! All kidding aside, I do own a few budget kits for winter riding and I quite like them. it can be a hit or miss though. Brand names are super expensive in and around Victoria/Vancouver Canada. At the end of the day there is only so much money to spend after you pay for life's more important survival necessities.
Well it would all look and perform better if it fitted and was worn the right way round! When I first started cycling and looked on Amazon for shorts - I really did think you wore them that way round and it almost stopped me going at all! Buy quality brands, last / old season stuff in the clearance sales online is my top tip for budgeting.
I think a good helmet and probably some good shoes and pedals are good to invest in. Aside from that, I wear cycling jerseys, shorts and long bibs from amazon and they work perfectly fine. As long you don't mind not getting any prestige points for brand recognition as there is a lot of snobbery in cycling IMO. It doesn't matter if you're wearing some top end jersey and bibs if I'm smoking you! ; p
This is one of your worst videos ever. You intentional buy the worst products on Amazon including kits that are 3 sized too big and try to mislead your audience. Like bikes there really is no difference with brand name and Amazon kits for most people. I’ve used Rapha, Castelli, Giro, and several Amazon kits. Very little difference. The level of integrity has been tanking for years and I thought that it can’t go lower. But you guy always seem to find ways lower the bar even more.
So Ollie has a PhD but he can’t figure out the shorts are on inside out 🤔. This was hilarious 😂. I have bought some cycling shorts off Amazon and they are one of the best pairs I have.
It's obvious that they knew they were inside out, and they specifically said he wore them that way because that's how it was pictured on the product page.
The ad for the shorts clearly shows the word ”underwear." I believe that's what you've got there, a short that's meant to be worn under street clothes. I have a pair that I occasionally wear under street trousers or casual shorts when I'm running errands by bike. It would have been helpful to explain to us why Ollie was apparently wearing the chamois on the outside. Looked like wrong side out to me.
The lights, providing they don't conk out in a year, are good enough for well lit commutes and for being seen. There are cheap gems out there for affordable kit, but they are not necessarily the absolute cheapest.
It would have been nice to see you guys in proper sized clothes and wearing them the right way round. Even premium stuff will feel crap if the size and fit is wrong.
What’s your experience with buying budget cycling products? 🧐
Not bad to start out cheap, then find out what pieces of kit are worth investing in.
😂😂😂
You typically get what you pay for but I must admit some of the kit I bought from Lidl has proven to be the hardest wearing and most comfortable gear I own!
False economy
FDX clothing from ebay is great stuff, long and short leg bib shorts and tops, gloves and rainwear all good. I've had some for a few years now, so quite hard wearing. Gear from Aldi is usually quite wearable. Their gloves usually last longer than premium brands. I gradually upgraded helmet and others bits (e.g. my trisuit to a huub), but for general training rides I still use a lot of cheap stuff.
Olli looks like he just started with cycling and spend all his money on the bike and had no money left for the the kit.
Better this way than other! Spend all money on kit and buy euro-bike!
Once you buy the bike cycling is an expensive hobby, right? 😎😂
Pretty much for all beginners?
In motorcycling you want expensive kit and a cheap bike so I bought expensive kit and aero bars and strapped those to an $80 Dutch upright bike. Honestly got me in great shape that first year.
Haha started the same. My first bib short was from the same brand baleaf.
This feels poor from you guys for once. The absolute cheapest stuff possible, in incorrect sizes, and deliberately worn incorrectly (shorts)? Feels like it's been done in bad faith.
The answer might end up being the same (save up and buy higher quality), but guess we'll never know!
Hi Dave, we tried to take this on with a 'mistakes we've made when we started cycling' vibe. It wasn't supposed to trash cheap products but be a comedic take on where sometimes it's better to save up for something higher quality. We think we've got the balance right but apologies if not.
@@gcntech Thanks for clarifying, makes more sense that way - still think y'all should do a test of trying to find legitimate budget gear - you can easily still spin it to promote branded gear by framing it on a multi-day backpacking trip or long ride while being honest - as while cheap-mid range items are good if you size them right...they're only good for so long.
After a few hours the shammies get a bit...worthless and full of water. The jersey begins to chaff or worse gets waterlogged and is unable to be fully zipped down...etc.
Personally I find decathlon stuff is actually good for the price - but still most no-name no-brand stuff off amazon/aliexpress to be quite sub-par unless you're a very beginner just going for 10-20km rides once or twice a week.
@GCN Tech would be good to see a "proper" comparison video though!
@@gcntech thanks for the reply - do keep up the great work and content!
Interesting take - it makes a lot more sense that way, even if it doesn't come across (to me) in the video. Also interesting points about bib vs non-bib shorts; I'd never thought about that. They might carry more weight if the Amazon ones had been given a proper chance (correctly sized/worn etc), but watching Ollie put them on was admitedly hilarious 🙈 See you on the next one! 🤟
@@gcntech I think the video would’ve been more helpful if you’d bought appropriate sizes and worn the shorts correctly (despite the website images, they’re clearly inside out!). Still good for a ‘festive cheer’ video though.
I've always had good experiences with Wiggle's dhb brand. Slightly more expensive than Amazon etc but you always know you're getting something solid that's actually made for cyclists rather than for looks. Also most (not all) Lifeline products are good - I have a dirt-cheap track pump from them that's good as new after 3 years in a shed.
Agreed, dhb and lifeline are two of my go to brands.
Agreed re DHB. Today in the South East of England it's poured down all day, and been pretty blustery too. I went out on my XC bike wearing DHB waterproof gloves. Hammering around off road for a couple of hours, my hands were warm and dry. The gloves were twenty quid.
@Darren Clare And me. Biggest issue I have is with my gut to get anything to fit I have to buy the size of someone 7 foot tall and I am only 5.10.
I needed some lace shoes to go with my retro bikes and the DHB ones are really excellent. I did take the advice on sizing from reviewers on their page, which worked out.
Totally agree with you about this bro as it's a matter of what suits you best both for pocket & essentially what you need for your cycling experience..., 👊🏾👍🏾
The shorts are meant to be worn under pants (and not inside out, of course). For MTB when you're wearing knee pads and some protection so bib shorts are not an option.
Would be good to see a review on the cheapest viable kit
Absolutely!
Absolutely...., & at the same time can we see a list of the top shelve most expensive as my kit ranges from the Specialized S Works range in helmets & footwear to Castelli cycle wear where i must profess that all my cycle clothing are by Castelli to the tune of £2,700 where its a combination of jackets, long & short sleave jerseys bib tights long & short, winter & summer, base layers long & short, Helmets ( times 2 ) one in black & the other in white Evade 2 with MIPS & not forgetting my Aries S Works footwear x2 in black & the other in white & also my old durable & realiable most go too in the Specialized Torch 2.0 cycle shoe & yes every single one of my kit comes in black...., i ride a black Merida 2020 Reacto 105 hydraulic disc which i have since upgraded to the Ultegra version & 40mm carbon hand built rims compliments of Owen Wheels ( Master Wheel builder ) out of Rat Race Cycles, Nunhead in South East London...., 👊🏾👍🏾
@@govermentsoundsystemrootik8887 Nunhead Blimey your brave .
@@2wheelsrbest327 why exactly am i brave bruv 😎...., i have lived in South London all of my life & have to date loved every single encounter & experience that i have had the chance to live through...., i was born mid 60's in St Giles Hospital in Camberwell & brought up in Herne Hill throughout my childhood and leading into my mid adult year's...., i had nothing to be brave about or to contend with bro aside from the blatant racist bigotry & disgusting attitudes from racist arseholes at the time that being black & living in a well to do suburban predominantly white neighbourhood which in it's self brung challenges that my father & mother had to contend with with which as made me the man i am to date currently married to a wonderful & gorgeous woman for the past 11 yrs who I have known & been in love with during the past 17 yrs which has a dual nationally of Swedish & Irish....,their is nothing for me to be brave about my friend so have yourself a wonderful & fabulous Christmas & New year ❤️🙏🏾👊🏾👍🏾
@@2wheelsrbest327 😂🤣😂....,nothing to do with being brave bruv but way of life & where i come from with the added bonus of being 6ft 2 & weight in at 218lbs not much to be really scared about..., 👊🏾👍🏾
LOL the reason the shorts are displayed inside out is that so you can see what the chamois looks like. They’re OBVIOUSLY not meant to be worn that way
Those are meant to be underwear (see description) to be worn under normal shorts while cycling😂
The problem is cycling is also wrapped up in vanity, and perceived elitism.
What kit are you wearing ? What bike are you riding? Its all BS, and if the bike manufacturers aren't trying to get you for $5000 for a "decent" entry level bike
nowadays, then every other aspect of cycling DEMANDS cool kit at huge prices !
There are plenty of good values to be found on Amazon and Ebay for less expensive biking kit. Lets face it $80-120 for a jersey is ridiculous - If vanity is your goal - after only a jersey, bib shorts, socks, shoes helmet, glasses and gloves, one could be in the hole for many hundreds of dollars, if not over the $1,000 mark just for the privilege of riding your bike ?
I am tough on my clothes - gravel and stuff happens. I am not blowing the budget
on clothing that will see huge wear and tear. A nice helmet, sure, decent glasses and head unit, OK. But cycling kit is just ridiculous !!
Making a funny episode is all nice and well but many cyclists don't have the money for expensive branded cycling kits especially when they are starting out and have to buy a lot of equipment at once.
What would have been helpful is for you to make an episode with cheaper kits from Aliexpress/Amazon and rate which one of them is actually useful for people starting out that are on a budget.
Agree. This video is all about encouraging viewers to buy expensive products from their rich sponsors. if you are smart & do some research, you can find much better quality products online at much cheaper prices than what Alex & Ollie bought.
There are many good budget options. I've had a lot of stuff from Lidl over the years and it all has been very durable. Decathlon kit is also great. AliExpress wise, I have good experience with Rionbike. Almost 2 years ago I bought 2 jerseys from Neopro, they're my favorite and only 30-40 bucks each. They don't have an european warehouse anymore, unfortunately.
We don't do reviews of specific products on GCN so wanted to make something which looked at cheaper products more broadly to guide in that way... with a bit of comedy chucked in too! 😂
@@gcntech I get that you have sponsor responsibilities but you are already branded up the wazoo so once in a while episode catered to budget options regarding kit/bicycles/etc could also be good for you as well (regarding views).
I bet there are a lot more of us beginners/amateurs watching your videos than Tadej Pogačar's wannabies cladded in Castelli from head to toe ;)
If you don't need your stuff next day, the chines' company Santic provide good quality clothing and shoes at a more affordable price.
Cycling kit doesn't HAVE to cost a lot.
Siroko offers excellent value for money, and the quality is good, Van Rysel from Decathlon offers pretty good value too.
I have a few higher-end pieces of kit for events, but for training and commuting, it doesn't need to cost an arm and a leg.
It would be interesting if you compared "budget" brands like Siroko, Van Rysel, ... and higher-end stuff like Le Col or Santini.
Buying the cheapest of the cheapest is fine for shits and giggles, but it doesn't provide real value for most of us who look at price/quality equations.
I just got into road riding about 2 months ago. Bought my gear off Amazon.winter thermal jacket and winter thermal bib pants. Absolutely love them . Very good quality and low cost. Also those shorts only reason the company has a picture of pad on outside is to show you that the shorts do have a pad. Common Spence says pad does on inside. Duh.😂 and one place I don’t cheap out on is helmet and shoes.
FDX stuff by any chance? I got a jacket and a couple of pairs of their winter bibtights and they are great tbh
@@paulmiddlemass6465 qualidyne bib pants and arsuxeo winter jacket. That’s a bad name because the jacket doesn’t sux. 😁
You might have found the shorts more comfortable if you’d worn them properly. I have several pairs of Baleaf shorts and tights and they’re perfectly acceptable.
From my short experience in the cycling world, don't skimp on the helmet and lights besides the bike itself. All other stuff like a kit has been fine skimping on from my experience. I have bought several cheap shorts off of Amazon, and some are great to wear for cycling. The only reason I say don't buy cheap helmets and lights is that there is a huge difference between good helmets and cheap helmets that I found after having a little accident as I wore a cheap helmet. Now I fork out however much money on the helmets without hesitation. The same with lights because cheap lights just don't put out enough lumens to see well besides being seen by others when it is dark, so, again, I figured just fork out the cash on lights to get it right from the get-go.
Hugely entertaining! Maybe you could do another based upon budget friendly, value oriented kit.
That would annoy their sponsors when the good budget stuff is 85%+ as good as the top line gear
@@talonlan 😁
One of the funniest videos you guys have done for a while, love it! I’ve now added those lights to my basket, for the price they will be handy to add to a back pack, helmet or whatever for added visibility.
Would love to see a cheep-mid range test. FDX, siroko, planet X, neopro and wiggles dhb range make it happen GCN!
I commute all winter 150 miles a week in fdx kit good fit works a treat. I can have three pairs of fdx bib tights for the price of one pair of raphas. Dry fresh tights every day.
Add decathlons stuff. Some of it is pretty good.
Alex's uncontrollable laughter when Ollie comes out of the privacy bush all kitted out 😆
As a card-carrying cheapskate I enjoyed this video except for the jersey/shorts part where clearly the wrong sizes made it pointless and the saddle cover is just silly. In my own experience, the place where you want to spend money is in the bib shorts (and I have excellent ones that cost me only US$40 from The Black Bibs in the US), shoes and gloves, all of which are contact points. There are plenty of inexpensive jerseys for sale that actually do fit--I discovered this when I bought some retro-design jerseys on E-Bay for US$ 25. The material is certainly not as high-end as the aero stuff from Le Col, for example, but is still quite acceptable. My winter bib tights, of which I have two pairs, have lasted me for more than a decade and were purchased at a German coffee shop chain famous for bringing in bargain stuff on a seasonal basis! The lights in this video seem really fit for purpose so perhaps more budget electronics can be covered in future--I have bought heart rate monitors and cadence sensors for a fraction of what established brands charge and they work beautifully. And that helmet is pretty cool--I just wish the Chinese would leave off the weird names on their products!
Obviously, the absolute cheapest stuff will be trash. Although I have a pair of 25 euro AliExpress special bibs that I've been using for 3 years. They fit well and their size chart was actually trustworthy (unlike castelli 😀) the lycra feels good and has not become transparent. They are at the end of their life now, seams are falling apart and chamois is a bit flat now, but it was well worth the price.
Those are padded undershort. You're supposed to wear a regular short over it for commuting. The picture was to show you the inside, not to show you how to wear it.
Would have liked a more honest test with properly sized kit, bib shorts, etc. I ride Amazon kit and also high end kit. The difference is less pronounced if you go just a bit higher than bottom barrel
A winner are the backlight that lit up when you brake, best purchase ever. SPD pedals are better than Shimanos.... you just have to be selective.... Even the powermeter is a nice buy!
Now we know that Team GCN is afraid of Ollies improvement from dropped to dropper, that they actively try to sabotage him with wrong sized and cheap clothing
They're all bicycle racers, ethics are weighty.
I´m sorry but the first time I saw Ollie coming through the bushes and then display the itens at the side of the road just made me really LOL and throughout the video I just cackled!!!!
Fair-play Ollie Fairplay!!
Great 2023 to all GCN team!
Really good video, but I don’t think it tell you very much about Ali cycling stuff. First, the seat cover is made for commuting and are great for cycling with jeans in a hard saddle. Second, I agree with most of the helmet stuff but you should remember that you can get the low end giro or Specialized helmets for around the same price on sale (and they usually fit better). Third, the shorts must be the worst Ali buy ever. I have several Ali bibs at the same price and they feel and look like normal bibs (also owning several pairs of Assos and Rapha). Yes, on longer rides - above 2-3 hours - they don’t feel as good but quality wise that have stood up to many many washes without any sign of low quality. In regards to shirts, I do agree that the premium brands feels nicer, but for anyone who hasn’t tried a premium brand they would be perfectly fine - given the right size of course!
PLUS if you buy a cheap name brand helmet you don't have to go around with WILDMAX (or whatever the f it was) written on your head...
These test are awesome...the Euro Bike should have been used as well just to add insult to injury!
Must admit I had always bought cheaper cycling gear in the past until I had some spare cash and bought some Castelli kit! Wow what a difference in fit, quality etc…As they say you get what you pay for!
Great point about certification of the helmet. Speaking of the rest of the kit, non-certified colouring of the fabric might be an issue in the long run.
10:26 omfg, CE is a safety rating for choking hazards and electrocution, you can slap it on anything large that doesn't plug into a wall.
My country has an entire certification just for bicycle helmets, this helmet can't even be sold here on eBay etc
Have a few Chinese helmets with visors when I started cycling. I crashed once head dived to pavement while wearing one. Guess what, saved my life and my face. If the visor wasn't there I would have scrapped my eyes and eye browse and look alot worst. The helmet did its job for me and the visor surprisingly did not shatter or even crack at the impact close to my temple.
Helmet was from Amazon with hundreds of reviews. There are some good cheap stuff that do work
in general i dont feel very comfortable bying something new thats so cheep i could not even emagine how they cover f.ex the shiping cost of the components or anything else.a led bikelamp with batteries for 2€ delivered sounds like something is very odd in the production.....
Do not be so quick to dismiss the saddle cover! I have a wheel on Kickr Snap indoor trainer (without the fancy rocking arms of the premium tier) and I cannot shake off horrible saddle soreness when riding indoors. I have a Selle Italia saddle which is beautiful out on the road and provides all day comfort when paired with bib shorts . Yet, on the trainer, I get plunged into pain in under 20 minutes. Slapping this gel saddle cover on opens up that window of pain free riding to nearly 80 minutes. Not a bad return for something so relatively inexpensive vs a more expensive trainer or spending beyond £100 to get an indoor trainer specific bib short - if they even exist?
Of course the cheapest of the cheap isn't so good, but that doesn't mean you need to buy Castelli instead. Off of Amazon, I've had good luck with Spotti and Prezwalski, which aren't cool but aren't crap either, and they're about half the price of the premium brands.
On the Amazon page you showed it did say they were undershorts. Presumably to wear under baggy shorts.
Fun, Alex's laugh is contagious! Ollie is a good sport. I didn't learn anything new but enjoyed the video nonetheless!
Ollie I never LOL like this. maaaaaaaannnnn the way you look in that kit, was cracking me up.Good job guys. "Good stuff"
You’ve done it! Olly’s shorts ‘reveal’; I think Alex ‘Laughing Boy’ Paton was a couple of BPM away from dying laughing!
Aldi is even better value...picked up helmets there reduced to £2.99 that fit my huge bonce better than most "premium" ones...also got a superb bike work stand reduced to £9.99.... but for reliable decent kit at good discount I just monitor the sales/discounts on the usual big mail order sites (Wiggle/CRC, Tredz, Winstanleys, Merlin etc)
Ollie looked like Vonnegut’s Harrison Bergeron when he came out in his new kit. GCN is making Ollie equal again!
New "its time for cycling shorts" intro! 😄
As is the case in many other areas, while the bottom of the barrel is the cheapest, it is far from the best value. In the budget space adding an extra 10-20 often gets you serious improvements. I am currently using a $20ish light set, and it is actually bright enough to let me see the road & ride at night. Plus its rechargeable and has a ton of different brightness modes.
As for those shorts, im pretty sure they are so short because they are supposed to be worn under other clothes.. I see them show up on amazon all the time, and the reviews are terrible, save a little more and get a pair that is actually good, your butt will thank you.
The saddle advice is absolutely true, I lent my old hybrid to a friend, and he got one of those $20 saddles that are 4 in thick,. Do not recommend! I cant stand to ride it for more than 10 minutes now, whereas I could do hours with no bib shorts before.
My question is, does Alex knew that Ollie will end up wearing the jersey and the shirt? How did he manipulate the coin that Ollie was holding? 😂😂😂. Thank you guys for the info and the laughs.
I was laughing so much I got to the point I didn't think I could continue watching the video!!
Shorts look so backwards with the size label showing off the outside. I see the Amazon image showing the same way.
To be fair the front lights are great when CTT decide to force people to have a front light and you want a small one you can put on an aero bar last minute that looks kind of aero
I won't skimp on bike parts. But my helmet-mounted front and rear lights are under $10 each (very reliable). I'll buy deeply discounted biike shorts and jerseys from Pearl Izumi, Castelli. My helmets are cheaper (under $50) as I change them every 3 years (as recommended) as long as they meet CPSC/ASTM/Snell standards.
I choose cycling shorts over bibs any day, my hips are slim and my upper body long, so the suspenders tend to press down. Any idea why there are no adjustable suspenders in bibs available?
I prefer shorts to Bibs .. Good ones that is.. less faff at the comfort breaks etc...
For such a larky video there is some good thinking in here, but not including Ollie putting the shorts on inside out.
Maybe this has been mentioned but, It may be those shorts are actually liner shorts. Not going to change the fact they suck, but aesthetically you might save the embarrassment.
I agree with all comments. Should look at value level real kit Van rysel level decathlon, super value.
Not much point testing kit that isn't even the right size.
Keep up with the comedy. Because it shows this channel in it’s true values. For someone just starting out cheap stuff from Amazon is a revelation, compare the Amazon stuff to riding in under wear and shorts, then the mid price fdx (other brands are available) for shorter 2 hour rides (and commuting) and then the top brands. From experience we all know that what you gain in performance you loose in durability. Comedy videos like this add nothing to your channel and undermine your supposed technical features. Your editor should have canned this and the puddle video at the ideas stage. Unless of course it was a click bate revenue generator.
Entertaining and Agree most about cheap Amazon cycling products. But I kinda love my Amazon cheap jersey. Instead of trying the cheapest from Amazon, Can you do a vid of trying the best seller ones from Amazon, with the right size of course?
Way better than the GCN kit.
Planet X or Carnac helmet much better for the money. The lights I genuinely keep on my bike for an emergency in case the main rechargeable ones fail
Qualidyne makes great stuff and it's cheap. Their bib shorts have lasted me longer than more expensive Heavy Pedal ones.
LOL, that was horrible, poor Ollie! But also really hilarious. I have to say though, if you're careful about Amazon purchases, you can get some big wins. For me, the brand "Uriah", oddly labeled "Miloto" on the actual gear has been a win. $40 U.S. for jersey and shorts, 34 colorways, and I actually quite like them. Fit is very good, materials seem good, and shockingly, the shorts are actually good as well! And if you're not pleased, simple return!
Why you do Ollie like that? LMFAO!
You could also make a funny video of a medium size person trying to squeeze themselves into a M size Castelli jersey.
Hey Guys, I am struggling to find a good reasonable priced pair of prescription sunglasses, can you do a video on this subject? I'm sure there are lots of cyclist in the same boat.
I can't believe they're still not addressing the used market.
If you're new to cycling and poor don't buy a shitty bike. Buy a decent used bike for less money. In the current market a 10s road bike is a great deal with great availability of quality used parts.
You guys are great. All the best in the new year.
I hope Oli will still be able to create babies after wearing those shorts 😂
Were the shorts inside out?
Amazon posts the shorts inside out otherwise you wouldn’t even see the internal padding
Bib straps make no sense to me. I wear regular cycling shorts and have no issues with them moving.
Think those shorts were under shorts, not meant to be used as you did, however, funny seeing Ollie dressed up like that. Get Connor in it, that would be a laugh. By him small in everything, but just get that "modesty screen blurring edit tool" at the ready. 🤔🤔🤣🤣
People might think you've soiled yourself if you enter a cafe with those shorts.
Why not the Eurobike for accuracy?
There's a hell a lot of snobbery attached to cycling - and unless this is just intended to be a throwaway funny video, it's kind of reinforcing that snobbery. I mainly buy mid-range, less-known branded kit and it's absolutely fine. The few times I have ventured into buying the brands that get product-placed on GCN, the items have fallen to bits after just a few outings. I love the GCN channels, but videos like this seem to back up the suspicion that the channel is a little too much at the mercy of the corporate sponsors. I don't imagine we'd ever see a video doing a fair test of the top-range brands vs mid-range. Hope to be proved wrong :-)
Ollie doesn't look any more ridiculous in his costume than the other guy does in his.
Soooo why order such off the chart sizing? If I did that with my Rapha kit, they would feel cheap too.
Olli earned his paycheck with this one 🤣
Greatest GCN Video ever 😂
Why is that saddle cover guffing in the Amazon pic..?
I hope you know that the shorts are worn inside out?)
One of the best shows. Needs more margin products shows, for 95% of the weekend cyclists
Sometimes it's just a matter of getting something that fits, anything.
😂 wearing those shorts according to the advert!!!!! Hilarious!!!!! Goes to show anyone can look like a Fred regardless of their skill.
A couple of years back I bought some 'Speed' shoes. Fantastic. Double boas, options for both types of cleats. Felt as comfortable as anything. £50. My other shoes are top of the range Fiziks, but I got £170 off of those.
I've also have this speed shoes only with single dial, but comfortable? They are a bit flexy, but most importantly, very poorly ventilated. I found them useful only for commuting, rides up to half an hour in chilly mornings and many times bad weather, where poor ventilation is welcome. Other than that I have a pair of 100€ Northwaves, but I like the most my Time Osmos 10 and Osmos 15 👍.
I bought the Speed shoes for $19 as my first experiment in clipless pedals (along with some $30 pedals). About 1000 miles later I'm still pretty happy. I'm sure at some point I'll get better kit, but that will be after those wear out.
I really enjoy your videos but joking apart there is a limit of bias. Terrible sizing of jersey was one thing but with the shorts you crossed the line. It is not fun it just hits at your credibility. I would prefer a more real life test paying a few more £ where materials/stitching are much better, the comparison I think would be more interesting and useful. But would you do that when you sell your own?
Shorts: clearly marked as underwear shorts and they should be used as such. And not be worn inside out because there was a photo of them to show the padding. They are shorter than normal as they are supposed to be used under some other non padded shorts or tights. I use a similar model for easy family rides with normal shorts or trousers. Their padding is not as good as proper shorts or bib shorts but they are ok if used properly and have lasted. And they have scored very well on amazon.
Helmet: EC certification sticker even if not fake is not all. I am thinking quality of materials that will not last, irritating and slippery straps that do not keep their position and so on. At the last black Friday there were branded helmets for less that £10. £20 for a no name is too much I think to buy blindly.
Ollie, when your knees are at the top they make an outwards-inwards move. Is this movement acceptable? Apart from possible aero cost could it strain your knee ligaments? Is is something you could improve on with cleat adjustment etc?
Ollie you are literally wearing your boxers to ride there intended to be worn under longer shorts 😂🤣
Ollie should always wear short shorts 🤣
If you're sharing your thoughts on budget kit ... At least get the right size and wear the shorts right-side in. Not really a fair comparison otherwise.
Not sure what hurts my eyes more: Si in Speedos or Ollie in short shorts.🫣
Guys, I used to use those Baleaf cycling shorts. You're wearing them inside out (the photo is taken that way just to show the pad,) and they're meant to be cycling underpants. I used them for a while for work commuting, wearing them as underpants under synthetic trousers that I wore all day at work. I stopped using them when I no longer needed them (toughened up) because they got a bit clammy worn for my whole work day if it was warm on my ride in.
This right here is correct. I wear them under regular shorts when I know I'll also be getting off the bike to go in a store, hiking, etc
Yeh, completely. This is a classic GCN filler video and a subscriber grab.
These are underwear shorts and are described that way. They should be worn under conventional shorts. Nice going😅
It was pretty obvious Ollie was wearing them inside out, I was wondering if I was the only one noticing that. And the jersey... come on, a regular T-shirt will do just fine, but to choose XXXL for a thin man like Ollie and then say it's a bad choice of jersey, NOT of size... it is just a tad too much. I wear stuff from Decathlon and a CUBE pair of underwear shorts and I'm just fine.
I use a similar pair of underwear UNDER my mtb shorts. They help.
It's not often you see a baboon ride a bicycle , Ollie really giving us a show.
I almost fell off my chair laughing so hard after seeing Ollie come out from behind the trees in his budget kit, PRICELESS!!! All kidding aside, I do own a few budget kits for winter riding and I quite like them. it can be a hit or miss though. Brand names are super expensive in and around Victoria/Vancouver Canada. At the end of the day there is only so much money to spend after you pay for life's more important survival necessities.
Well it would all look and perform better if it fitted and was worn the right way round! When I first started cycling and looked on Amazon for shorts - I really did think you wore them that way round and it almost stopped me going at all! Buy quality brands, last / old season stuff in the clearance sales online is my top tip for budgeting.
Same here. I keep an eye out for clearances on stuff. I've bought a lot of really nice stuff for a great price that way.
Props to the cameraman for holding his laughters 🤣🤣
Didn't give the clothes a fair shake. You hand me a set of GCN Castelli kit in the wrong size, and I'm going to hate it too,
I think a good helmet and probably some good shoes and pedals are good to invest in. Aside from that, I wear cycling jerseys, shorts and long bibs from amazon and they work perfectly fine. As long you don't mind not getting any prestige points for brand recognition as there is a lot of snobbery in cycling IMO. It doesn't matter if you're wearing some top end jersey and bibs if I'm smoking you! ; p
This is one of your worst videos ever. You intentional buy the worst products on Amazon including kits that are 3 sized too big and try to mislead your audience. Like bikes there really is no difference with brand name and Amazon kits for most people. I’ve used Rapha, Castelli, Giro, and several Amazon kits. Very little difference. The level of integrity has been tanking for years and I thought that it can’t go lower. But you guy always seem to find ways lower the bar even more.
Tell us you're a snob without telling us you're a snob.
So Ollie has a PhD but he can’t figure out the shorts are on inside out 🤔. This was hilarious 😂. I have bought some cycling shorts off Amazon and they are one of the best pairs I have.
Me too, I spent about 30 to 40 dollars on bike shorts on Amazon. Love it.
Not everyone can afford a 200 dollars bike short you know
Super intellects don't concern themselves with petty mundane details.
@@stevek8829 😂
@@stevek8829 haha
It's obvious that they knew they were inside out, and they specifically said he wore them that way because that's how it was pictured on the product page.
I'm sure he would also look silly if he bought super expensive kit in the wrong sizes.
The ad for the shorts clearly shows the word ”underwear." I believe that's what you've got there, a short that's meant to be worn under street clothes. I have a pair that I occasionally wear under street trousers or casual shorts when I'm running errands by bike.
It would have been helpful to explain to us why Ollie was apparently wearing the chamois on the outside. Looked like wrong side out to me.
Great video. One thought, batteries might be more expensive than just replacing the whole cheap light
The lights, providing they don't conk out in a year, are good enough for well lit commutes and for being seen. There are cheap gems out there for affordable kit, but they are not necessarily the absolute cheapest.
It would have been nice to see you guys in proper sized clothes and wearing them the right way round. Even premium stuff will feel crap if the size and fit is wrong.
It would have been good to review mid tear stuff from Amazon, like the $40 tights and similarly priced jerseys. And compare the durability as well.
Agree a little more serious.
This is obviously 100% a joke.
I agree, I would be interested to see an honest review of decent affordable gear.
Yes please. Great idea.