I like the randomly incoming commercial breaks asking me about how to earn a shitload of money or how to treat my intestinal problems, all at full volume. That's exactly what I want to hear while listening to beethoven. Thanks TH-cam. Appreciate it!
When Liszt began work transcribing the ninth symphony, he expressed that "after a great deal of experimentation in various directions, I was unable to deny the utter impossibility of even a partially satisfactory and effective arrangement of the 4th movement. I hope you will not take it amiss if I dispense with this and regard my arrangements of the Beethoven symphonies as complete at the end of the 3rd movement of the Ninth." (He had in fact completed a transcription of the Ninth Symphony for two pianos in 1850.) Nevertheless, he made another attempt after an expressive letter from Breitkopf & Härtel, and expressed "the range achieved by the pianoforte in recent years as a result of progress both in playing technique and in terms of mechanical improvements enables more and better things to be achieved than was previously possible. Through the immense development of its harmonic power the piano is trying increasingly to adopt all orchestral compositions. In the compass of its seven octaves it is able, with only a few exceptions, to reproduce all the characteristics, all the combination, all the forms of the deepest and most profound works of music. It was with this intention that I embark on the work which I now present to the world.
Only thing missing is a legendary piano. He would need a Fazioli to get those crisp staccatos on the bass. I understand he used a Bösendorfer 290 to add those extra lower notes but Bösendorfers and Steinways reverberate too loudly after release.
I actually get a little scared just looking at the score. It takes a musician of the highest caliber to transcribe a work as epic as Beethoven’s 9th and it takes a musician of the highest caliber to perform it and do it justice.
One can immediately sense the incredible reverence Liszt held for Beethoven by observing that, for the greatest part of this reduction, it's a very faithful transcription of Beethoven's original. Liszt stepped back and let Beethoven take center stage with this transcription, and in doing so made the very greatest of greatest transcriptions. I'm a composer who is also a pianist. When we prepare transcriptions like this -- or, when we're attempting to complete compositions which were left unfinished by the original composer at the time of their death, we have to step back away from ourselves, take our egos completely out of the picture, and make ourselves servants of the composer. "Not my will, but Thine."
@@brent3522 I'm a classically-trained, concert-level pianist and composer. There are really good reasons why we revere folks like Ravel, Brahms, Liszt and Beethoven. We don't "play" these composers: we step into their world, and these composers play US.
Yes especially in that great choral canon in the finale starting at 59:23 and after listening to Katsaris hearing others play the Liszt version sounds like it is missing many parts
I do not claim to have the most musical ear or talent, but for me, I think reducing the Beethoven Symphonies to a single instrument makes it easier for me to follow the motion and intent of the musical ideas without the distracting complexity of a multitude of instruments and timbres. Of course, one must trust one's transcribing reductionist to properly select what to leave in, and what to leave out. After listening many times to both the orchestral and piano arrangements of all of the Greatest Nine, I implicitly trust Franz Liszt's judgement. Everything musically important to the 'absolute music' root of the compositions has been preserved. Monsieur Simader, thank you from the bottom of my heart for producing this most explicative and professional presentation of The Masters' work.
@@kallehed6330 That’s not what I was implying at all. Random notes played without any context do not constitute genius. What makes this genius is that he manages to capture sheer chaos through an incredible use of dissonance, in the context of a tonal composition. A pretty terrible straw man argument by you.
Both transcription and performance are astonishing. Liszt sure had some spine, deciding to transcribe THIS for solo piano! But it also made me rediscover the work, and once again I am under the impression of the sheer, epic monumentality of Beethoven's original conception.
@@aloofoaf1You do realize this was written for the sake of making the symphony more accessible for the listeners of the time, who likely couldn't afford to attend an orchestral performance, right? And a "lesser thing" it is most definitely not, being one of the highest accomplishments in the piano's history both for its composition and its performance.
Ludwig Van Beethoven - Choral Symphony in D minor, Opus 125 00:00 Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso 14:21 Molto vivace 29:03 Adagio molto e cantabile 42:42 Finale - Presto
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Second movement around rehearsal mark L to the recapitulation. So gorgeous. My god. The rhythmic nature of the entire second movement suits piano really well.
Now I understand why Wagner asked Liszt to do the piano reduction of his Ring cycle. Liszt turned him down but recommended a friend Klindworth who had studied with Chopin. The first version was unplayable even for Liszt who told Klindworth to simplify it. This is the version that's in the Schirmer scores but you can still find the first version in old scores. Rivals Brahms Pag and Liszt opera paraphrases LOL.
@@GICM This is tricky, but if you are a pianist in an opera company and have to play even 1 of the Ring operas, it's way more difficult than any of these Liszt/Beethoven transcriptions. Even worse are the Strauss operas like Elektra/Rosenkavalier. Each opera is 2 1/2-6 hours long. Take the Beethoven and stretch it out, with way more tricky filler stuff and harmonies. Opera pianists do this for a living, 3-6 hours a day, six days a week when in rehearsal. Playing reductions is an art and specific skill set few people know about.
I’m going to get this transcription and start playing! Thank you for reminding me. My current transcription is not nearly as good as the Franz Liszt’s!
It's a pity Teldec didn't make a video for this playing~ There's Katsaris playing Liszt-Beethoven no.6 video though it is black and white on youtube. This recording was made in 1990's. Then, I wish there should be a video, maybe VHS level like no.6~ By the way Katsaris playing no.6 is another treasure~~:)
hot jam! once the solo parts in the finale start 51:20 this is my favrotie part of the song... hearing it on piano....Only Liszt would be like, "yeah.. it could be done......(yawn)" The performer after 50 minutes of playing: "bruh.... what's happening to the rhythm here?!?!?!?!
hard to say. Liszt wrote a bunch of pieces and they span pretty much through his entire life. these symphonies certainly highlight his ingenuity in transcriptions at least
people like to say that Liszt likes to torture players but i think there's plenty of evidence that the opposite is true-he wants his pieces to be playable (for the most part)
funny thing liszt actually almost gave up transcribing the fourth movement and decided to finish a two piano transcription first instead. thankfully he managed to finish the one-piano-two-hands transcription in the end
From memory he only did 5th and 7th, also he admitted that he recorded the first movement of the 5th hands seperate on two separate takes them they spliced it together.
How to psychoanalyse and philosophize on the dimension and perceptual concept on the transcendental godly Divine intervention or influence over Beethovenian compositions say the concertos and symphonic grandiosity... Is Beethoven related to the Lutheran church historical religious background on Reformation...? How is Goethe and Schiller transformation effectual psychology on Beethovenian character, soul, personality and motivation?
Liszt's transcription of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony is a piece for beginners -- if your beginner happens to be Sergei Rachmaninov or Marc-Andre Hamelin.
This is insanely difficult. Not only must the pianist play contrapuntal music of 5+ simultaneous melodies, the articulations for each melody are highly complex. I understand why Liszt was considered one of the greatest pianists ever.
@@Menarecuteaaa Brahms was a Liszt's hater. To me, it was Liszt who carries the flame of Beethoven more than Brahms himself, and the fact that Brahms said that was careless. But who tf knows?
what's harder in this piece than hitting the notes is to imitate the orchestra by applying many different types of touch this is what sets this performance apart from ferguson's
8 Francs per Page! Can you imagine that? Can you IMAGINE THAT??? Franz Liszt (FRANZ LISZT!) was paid 8 francs per page to transcribe (reduce) these works of The Master to piano. It's like buying art by the pound. The human condition is wanton.
piano reduction? were the old boy himself to place his mitts in the leaf of the piano I am quite sure he would say,,,' it sounds like it is all there mein herren'
Surprisingly that section is one of my favorite parts of the entire symphony. Nothing as beautiful as when the violas come with the slightly higher melody.
@@johntravena119 Yes I love how he teases with the parallel minor then returns right back to the major and hints to the minor a few times again. Truly genius.
I like the randomly incoming commercial breaks asking me about how to earn a shitload of money or how to treat my intestinal problems, all at full volume. That's exactly what I want to hear while listening to beethoven.
Thanks TH-cam. Appreciate it!
Or someone in a quiet section shouting “IF YOU WANT TO LEARN PIANO YOU ONLY NEED 4 CHORDS!!!!” oh stfu 😂
When Liszt began work transcribing the ninth symphony, he expressed that "after a great deal of experimentation in various directions, I was unable to deny the utter impossibility of even a partially satisfactory and effective arrangement of the 4th movement. I hope you will not take it amiss if I dispense with this and regard my arrangements of the Beethoven symphonies as complete at the end of the 3rd movement of the Ninth." (He had in fact completed a transcription of the Ninth Symphony for two pianos in 1850.) Nevertheless, he made another attempt after an expressive letter from Breitkopf & Härtel, and expressed "the range achieved by the pianoforte in recent years as a result of progress both in playing technique and in terms of mechanical improvements enables more and better things to be achieved than was previously possible. Through the immense development of its harmonic power the piano is trying increasingly to adopt all orchestral compositions. In the compass of its seven octaves it is able, with only a few exceptions, to reproduce all the characteristics, all the combination, all the forms of the deepest and most profound works of music. It was with this intention that I embark on the work which I now present to the world.
00:00 literitly like a movie intro
14:21 like a military marching to war
29:03 pure bliss
42:42 the finale
y'all know this aged well
Your spelling of "literally" hasn't, unfortunately
ah yes. The Military waltzing into battle.
You should try Schubert's op90 no3
A legendary symphony composed by a legendary composer transcribed by a legendary pianist and it requires a legendary pianist to pull this off.
Amen.
Only thing missing is a legendary piano. He would need a Fazioli to get those crisp staccatos on the bass. I understand he used a Bösendorfer 290 to add those extra lower notes but Bösendorfers and Steinways reverberate too loudly after release.
48:06 may I know why this part is not played as what the sheet shows?
Beethoven's 9th Symphony, Beethoven, Liszt, Cyprien Katsaris.
@@newmusic6325 katsaris was known in this piece to add the instruments liszt wasn't able to, hindsight is 20/20 after all
I actually get a little scared just looking at the score. It takes a musician of the highest caliber to transcribe a work as epic as Beethoven’s 9th and it takes a musician of the highest caliber to perform it and do it justice.
Liszt first was like "this is impossible to arrange"
Liszt also created a 4-hand version
@@angryjalapeno
Liszt and Beethoven : Two geniuses !!🙏
@@jeanlucchapelon and don't forget the brilliant Katsaris
Actuallu it is the grand student's transcription of the work of his grand teacher !
One can immediately sense the incredible reverence Liszt held for Beethoven by observing that, for the greatest part of this reduction, it's a very faithful transcription of Beethoven's original. Liszt stepped back and let Beethoven take center stage with this transcription, and in doing so made the very greatest of greatest transcriptions.
I'm a composer who is also a pianist. When we prepare transcriptions like this -- or, when we're attempting to complete compositions which were left unfinished by the original composer at the time of their death, we have to step back away from ourselves, take our egos completely out of the picture, and make ourselves servants of the composer. "Not my will, but Thine."
I have more respect for Katsaris in this same regard.
You're talking about past composers as if they're gods lol
@@brent3522 I'm a classically-trained, concert-level pianist and composer.
There are really good reasons why we revere folks like Ravel, Brahms, Liszt and Beethoven.
We don't "play" these composers: we step into their world, and these composers play US.
Every year that goes by, the more I appreciate Liszt's gift to the pianist world.
In a hypotethic list of the most underrated pianists of the history, Cyprien Katsaris would occupy one of the first positions. A true great artist !
He is still pretty well known between pianists but he should be as well known as Rubinstein Horowitz ecc.
Katsaris is truly a great pianist
this pianist added many notes by his own study on original... what a great work...
Yes especially in that great choral canon in the finale starting at 59:23 and after listening to Katsaris hearing others play the Liszt version sounds like it is missing many parts
As my own teacher would have said, "Why did you make an already impossible piece even more impossible?"
@@CH3CH2OCH2CH3net Just because he can, and also because it would make it a better transcription lol
@@CH3CH2OCH2CH3net because it sounds better
@@CH3CH2OCH2CH3netfor katsaris just another day at the office
Now we need a version where the pianist also sings
😂
They'd be out of breath most of the time lmao
Glenn Gould version !
There is actually a version by Wagner for pianist and choir: th-cam.com/video/rm7Xri7bBhY/w-d-xo.html
@@ShaunakDesaiPiano omg thank you for showing me this
I love how Cyprien adds extra low bass octaves in some parts.... unbelievable!!
I do not claim to have the most musical ear or talent, but for me, I think reducing the Beethoven Symphonies to a single instrument makes it easier for me to follow the motion and intent of the musical ideas without the distracting complexity of a multitude of instruments and timbres. Of course, one must trust one's transcribing reductionist to properly select what to leave in, and what to leave out. After listening many times to both the orchestral and piano arrangements of all of the Greatest Nine, I implicitly trust Franz Liszt's judgement. Everything musically important to the 'absolute music' root of the compositions has been preserved.
Monsieur Simader, thank you from the bottom of my heart for producing this most explicative and professional presentation of The Masters' work.
48:47. Beethoven truly was a genius ahead of his time. This chord contains all notes of the D minor scale!
Goodness. It's true!
@@lczq6737 My mouth fell wide open the first time I heard that chord in a piece by Beethoven!
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 d minor harmonic scale
According to that logic, my cat rolling over my piano keys is ten times more genius than Beethoven
@@kallehed6330 That’s not what I was implying at all. Random notes played without any context do not constitute genius. What makes this genius is that he manages to capture sheer chaos through an incredible use of dissonance, in the context of a tonal composition. A pretty terrible straw man argument by you.
After playing this Beethoven probably said to himself "finally someone with acceptable piano skills"
beethoven was dead
45:57 - 48:00 finally learned!!!!!!!
The chorus staff indicates what notes you should cry on while practicing this piece.
The whole thing is pretty mind blowing esp at 7:48 with the way he gets the feel of the timpani rolls and the string attacks together!!
This is the ONLY way to translate it on piano, thank you Liszt!
I come to this transcription for more casual listening because the symphony itself usually brings me to tears. Powerful stuff!
Both transcription and performance are astonishing. Liszt sure had some spine, deciding to transcribe THIS for solo piano! But it also made me rediscover the work, and once again I am under the impression of the sheer, epic monumentality of Beethoven's original conception.
Liszt had some spine but a LOT of audacity to transcribe a colossal masterpiece like this for the piano and make a lesser thing of it.
@@aloofoaf1You do realize this was written for the sake of making the symphony more accessible for the listeners of the time, who likely couldn't afford to attend an orchestral performance, right? And a "lesser thing" it is most definitely not, being one of the highest accomplishments in the piano's history both for its composition and its performance.
A reduction is a simplification. Liszt's transcriptions are not "reductions" they are piano symphonies in their own rights !!
Both great geniuses. Easily among the greatest composers ever. C. Katsaris is a legendary pianist.
It's amazing how we can hear pretty much full orchestra just from this
I normally only listen to Russian and French composers but this is gorgeous.
Why ?
No Bach, really?
Too symmetric, too clean, too pure… his music very often sounds to me as a mathematic equation.
@@0live0wire0 I don’t usually listen to Bach too.
@@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotraTry Mahler lol
31:01 Such a beatiful melody
Yes, LVB was the man.
Ludwig Van Beethoven - Choral Symphony in D minor, Opus 125
00:00 Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso
14:21 Molto vivace
29:03 Adagio molto e cantabile
42:42 Finale - Presto
Thank you
Ok
BEAUTIFUL FINISH 14:00 Perfect
The pianist is Katsaris one of great pianist of history
Two of my favorite composers, Beethoven and Liszt are here combined. Only Jehovah can create such music; Beethoven and Liszt were his tools.
Repent and put your trust in Jesus. We're all sinners and deserve Hell, but Christ died on the Cross for our sins. He didn't stay dead. He rose on the third day! If you repent and put your trust in Jesus, you will be saved!
Romans 3:23
John 3:16
what an awful way of thinking, both as a christian and a non christian
The only thing I have to say to those three guys (Beethoven, Liszt and Katsaris) is: respect.
Okay, so what's everyone's favorite part?
The part where music was playing
1:50
The part where he actually played what was written; nowhere. This is awful.
@@escopiliatese3623 lol what?
Second movement around rehearsal mark L to the recapitulation. So gorgeous. My god. The rhythmic nature of the entire second movement suits piano really well.
Now I understand why Wagner asked Liszt to do the piano reduction of his Ring cycle. Liszt turned him down but recommended a friend Klindworth who had studied with Chopin. The first version was unplayable even for Liszt who told Klindworth to simplify it. This is the version that's in the Schirmer scores but you can still find the first version in old scores. Rivals Brahms Pag and Liszt opera paraphrases LOL.
nah this is definitely more difficult that both
@@GICM This is tricky, but if you are a pianist in an opera company and have to play even 1 of the Ring operas, it's way more difficult than any of these Liszt/Beethoven transcriptions. Even worse are the Strauss operas like Elektra/Rosenkavalier. Each opera is 2 1/2-6 hours long. Take the Beethoven and stretch it out, with way more tricky filler stuff and harmonies. Opera pianists do this for a living, 3-6 hours a day, six days a week when in rehearsal. Playing reductions is an art and specific skill set few people know about.
@@jrthiker9908 by "both" i meant the Brahms Pag and Liszt opera paraphrases
Imagine if this was actually a beethoven sonata 0_0
@Gen. Clorox Bleach it already is
@@AsrielKujo hmm yes
wtf i realized O_O
@@AsrielKujo some pieces are arguably better, but ok
@@notmusictheory74 shhhh forget i wrote this
I’m going to get this transcription and start playing! Thank you for reminding me. My current transcription is not nearly as good as the Franz Liszt’s!
i usually play this to warm up before Per Elise
😂😂😂
The 4th movement is faster than the orchestra version. Incredible.
True
Отличное переложение партитуры для фортепианной игры 9 Симфонии Бетховена молодцы, спасибо большое!
54:00 My Favorite Part
The king of octaves!
59:36 such a vicious passage to play at such a speed
Wow... love this. Great job!! 🎶🔥👏 You inspired me to read through this arrangement 😃
Grand teacher and grand student team !
This is fucking amazing. Seriously
Excellent performance. No doubt very difficult.
Piękna muzyka i wykonanie
It's a pity Teldec didn't make a video for this playing~ There's Katsaris playing Liszt-Beethoven no.6 video though it is black and white on youtube. This recording was made in 1990's. Then, I wish there should be a video, maybe VHS level like no.6~ By the way Katsaris playing no.6 is another treasure~~:)
A coisa mais linda do mundo são os clássicos.. amo demais
Brasileiro aqui? Que alegria!
da uma olhada no meu canal, obrigado. sou compositor
@@Tizohip ok
@@eduardovf174 Brasileiro que ama um clássico ❤❤
@@Tizohip vou olhar sim
55:27 Ode to Joy came from this Symphony! Or it could be the other way around..
I mean, the Ode to Joy motif is pretty similar to a theme in a Mozart piece, but it got used more extensively here.
The well-known melody came from this symphony, which is set to a poem “an die Freude” by Schiller
Of course the ode comes from the symphony.
Woow excelente obra maestra por los siglos
I heard no. 9 so much that I'm saying the words with you. A great performance that fits the name of the one who may rival Davie504
1:04:57
59:22
hot jam! once the solo parts in the finale start 51:20 this is my favrotie part of the song... hearing it on piano....Only Liszt would be like, "yeah.. it could be done......(yawn)"
The performer after 50 minutes of playing: "bruh.... what's happening to the rhythm here?!?!?!?!
Excellent
This is TRUE arduity that represents Liszt, not others like his rhapsodies or grand etudes
hard to say. Liszt wrote a bunch of pieces and they span pretty much through his entire life. these symphonies certainly highlight his ingenuity in transcriptions at least
@@GICM this IS the most difficult though
@@IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5 yea but most of Liszt isn't this difficult, so i wouldn't say "represent" exactly.
people like to say that Liszt likes to torture players but i think there's plenty of evidence that the opposite is true-he wants his pieces to be playable (for the most part)
@@GICM true
14:21
45:26
49:48
52:25
53:10
53:59
55:12
59:22
1:04:00
liszt : piano can play everything!
funny thing liszt actually almost gave up transcribing the fourth movement and decided to finish a two piano transcription first instead. thankfully he managed to finish the one-piano-two-hands transcription in the end
Appreciate the ad lib. in there 😎
❤ bravo, incredible!
Wish Gould had recorded the 3rd & 9th Lizt transcriptions. Also the prelude to Tristan & Isolde.
I think he recorded all symphonies as far as I remember
@@thegoldenkeys1289 I’ve never heard ‘em. Will keep looking for em.
From memory he only did 5th and 7th, also he admitted that he recorded the first movement of the 5th hands seperate on two separate takes them they spliced it together.
@@nikb6176 no he did 5th and 6th not the 7th
Only maestro Katsaris has recorded all Beethoven/Liszt symphonies
This is the best
47:29 is my favorite part! 😁
Listening to this in 2023
I'm gonna miss 2022
46:00
Strabiliante
22:22
My 5th level piano proficient performance diploma exam. I dropped out !
Starting of a piece reminds me of work made by SheetBossMusic called "Window's XP symphony" (watch from 1:20)
Should be a crime to interrupt these works with commercials..
Yeah, fuck TH-cam.
48:57
18:00
5:31 fugal passage 1st mov
13:40 55:25 1:04:50
There's an ad every two minutes. This is ridiculous.
or better yet buy the CD
❤
Maravilhoso.
uh....this.....is........insane.
55:28 rip left hand
F
52:25 allegro assai vivace
How to psychoanalyse and philosophize on the dimension and perceptual concept on the transcendental godly Divine intervention or influence over Beethovenian compositions say the concertos and symphonic grandiosity... Is Beethoven related to the Lutheran church historical religious background on Reformation...? How is Goethe and Schiller transformation effectual psychology on Beethovenian character, soul, personality and motivation?
Ode to joy is known to be a piece for beginners
Every piano teacher ever
45:35
Liszt: _Haha no._
Todas las melodías de la historia de la musica son para principiantes. Las piezas en su totalidad no.
Liszt's transcription of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony is a piece for beginners -- if your beginner happens to be Sergei Rachmaninov or Marc-Andre Hamelin.
More like this 55:29
54:00
59:22
19:47
This is insanely difficult. Not only must the pianist play contrapuntal music of 5+ simultaneous melodies, the articulations for each melody are highly complex. I understand why Liszt was considered one of the greatest pianists ever.
Liszt be playing this at 3× speed
The pianist should also have a clear understanding of the various instruments used which makes the articulations that much more complex
Apparently Brahms said Liszt was only good at playing fast octaves and that his pieces were written to impress the ladies
@@Menarecuteaaa liszt was a chad
@@Menarecuteaaa Brahms was a Liszt's hater.
To me, it was Liszt who carries the flame of Beethoven more than Brahms himself, and the fact that Brahms said that was careless.
But who tf knows?
Things to do with piano when you’re Franz Liszt.
Shout out to the pianist who does an excellent job with this massive piece.
Super crisp playing as well.
Katsaris Is the best
@@nicolasbagnoli3564 Agreed.
Katsaris
Say his name
My friends be like: “You Play the piano so well.” Well wait until you hear this.
"What are you learning there, Steve?"
"Just the whole symphony."
"Nice. Both hands?"
"Yup."
"Nice."
Literally
Katsaris is the very first pianist to record the complete Liszt piano transcription of Beethoven 9 symphonies in 1987.
Anyone who successfully performs Liszt’s transcriptions of Beethoven’s symphonies is an actual god.
Liszt himself was *The God*
what's harder in this piece than hitting the notes is to imitate the orchestra by applying many different types of touch
this is what sets this performance apart from ferguson's
h
Definitely
59:22 is very impossible to play
8 Francs per Page! Can you imagine that? Can you IMAGINE THAT??? Franz Liszt (FRANZ LISZT!) was paid 8 francs per page to transcribe (reduce) these works of The Master to piano. It's like buying art by the pound. The human condition is wanton.
55:28 Dat octaves... My left hand is already hurting just by looking at the score.
@Damn it Enescu stop roasting me h
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@@stacia6678 ok
@@stacia6678 ok
The third movement is simply magic, isn't it?
It is
It’s magic indeed
59:21 love that double fugue based on an die freude (ode to joy) and seid unschlungen millionen
This performer is a genius......
you said it
piano reduction? were the old boy himself to place his mitts in the leaf of the piano I am quite sure he would say,,,' it sounds like it is all there mein herren'
46:08 this contrapuntal part is amazing
thats called a cantus firmis variation. the eroica finale has the same thing.
Surprisingly that section is one of my favorite parts of the entire symphony. Nothing as beautiful as when the violas come with the slightly higher melody.
53:50 Beethoven truly was a master of counterpoint. This part has great counterpoint too
@@benthepen3336 That counterpoint segue might be my favorite few bars in the history of music.
@@johntravena119 Yes I love how he teases with the parallel minor then returns right back to the major and hints to the minor a few times again. Truly genius.