So great to be reminded of this very interesting period. I visited isandhlawa and Rorkes drift in the late 1990s and had a fascinating few days being guided around the area
I am painting two miniature armies of British and Zulus representing the battle of Inyezane. In fact while listening to this video I am painting a regiment of NNC.
It must have been an exciting time in the military in the 19th century, fighting one enemy after another in parts of the world civvies would never get to see. Unlike the British Army of the Rhine. Another gripping tale, thanks Chris.
I imagine reading of the campaigns over breakfast must have been a highlight for many a nice safe civilian Victorian Papa before catching the omnibus to his clerical job in the city but I suspect not quite so exciting for the military. Long boring postings lasting years in far away countries with virtually no action or even none at all before being posted back to the UK as the 'home' battalion of the regiment. And just as you embark for home the natives become restless......
A very well done video Chris and I really appreciate all the visual aids you add into it which shows the time and effort you put into your videos. It seems kind of sad that a battle would be forgotten especially when the participants do not get a chance to forget about it. Kudos to you, amigo 👏 🙌 👍
I'm coming to this video two days late. Interestingly, yours popped up immediately after I finished watching "Forgotten Weapons" latest video on the Martini Henry rifle. Thank you for another great story.
I suspect that the Gatling gun's psychological effect was even greater than whatever the amount of hits the Gunners actually made. The steady Da-Da-Da-Da! Must have been horrifying
Thank you for such a great video! This part of the war has always interested me and the order of battle wasn’t easy to find. Thank you for taking the time to cover this. I hope you will make a follow up about the siege to come??
Even in WW1 there was the Naval Brigade, comprising those who'd been accepted in the RN but who had no ship to go to (numbers of course were finite). The poet, Rupert Brooke was in the Naval Division (I think there were 3 'regiments') but died during the voyage to Cape Helles. Other notables were Bernard Freyburg, who became an army general in WW2, one of Asquith's sons and Frederick Kelly, Australian-born composer and pianist who'd won gold rowing for Britain in the 1908 Olympics. He was to die in the very last days of the Somme.
Thank you for remembering this oft forgotten battle, I remember reading the Buffs sneered at the sailors charging the central spur as the navy ran pell-mell in no particular order, but the Zulus gave way, and the Navy had the last laugh!
A great video Chris. It’s important we look at all aspects of these campaigns, not just the parts that Hollywood has seen fit to dramatically recreate.
Ah, I remember you talking about this on the livestream - looking forward to the video - so the question is why did they win this battle vs the others?
There were many fewer Zulu here than at Isandlwana, the single Gatling might not be more effective than 100 men, but a more energetic leader and better placement might have done it.
I love your channel and have been an avid viewer for a while. Stories like this one are the reason I enjoy the channel so much. I wish someone would cover all the small American engagements like you do for the British. You've done a few of them on that subject, and it always has me wanting more. One day you will run out of British topics (probably not soon lol), and you will be able to move on to adjacent ones like American, Indians, Australians, etc.
As a Rooinek-Pomkraut Soutie Saffer, I’d like to point out that it was a good job the Zulus didn’t invent rifles (or anything else for that matter). However, brave and wonderful, they were and still are!
An interesting and often overlooked fact is that the Zulus possessed a significant amount of rifles. At Rorke’s Drift most of the British casualties were from Rifle fire.
@robertrobert7924 the Zulus had been purchasing Rifles from European traders since the days of Shaka. When the British invaded Zululand it is reported that the Zulus already had over 20,000 Rifles in thier possession, though many of these were older single shot Rifles. King Cetshwayo had purchased over a thousand Martini Henry Rifles earlier, before hostilities. The Zulus had also been purchased French muzzle loading muskets, nicknamed the Zulu Shotgun.
Hi Chris I wonder if you could tell the story of the taking of be sheba when the british and the australain light horse attacked and took it from the Turkish and german army in the first world war .
I really enjoy these videos on the Victorian era, maybe something on the Anglo Mysore wars or Anglo Burmese wars. Just a thought, thanks for your work.
I like the way you keep educating me concerning the ZULU battles. As a PC gamer, I think any of these engagements would make a great game. I'm sure that American Black leaders would strongly disagree.
“Oh, for a gatling!” groaned [Captain] Good, as he contemplated the serried phalanxes beneath us. “I would clear that plain in twenty minutes”. Quote from Haggard's “King Solomon’s Mines”. Echoes of Inyezane here?
Very insightful video, Learnt something knew I did. I too have a small request though, when discussing troop movements and the like it would be nice to see more diagrams or map usage as it can be quiet disorientating thinking "which ravine? Who's left? Where was the naval Brigade at that point?" and so on. Otherwise very interesting
Hmm, The audio is perfect on this one and it's only from a couple of months ago. Did you start using new software for the audio? It was a great relief to listen to your stories without the gated mic knocking off the first word of every sentence. Sorry I keep banging on about this but you make wonderful perfect videos and the one flaw is that stupid software.
Good afternoon Sir. Enjoy your content, long time follower. I have a question about the Royal Navy Sailors serving on land campaigns. Did they serve under their own officers or did they fall under the command of the Army? Also, did they fight or were used primarily to serve the guns? Thank you Sir! - A retired Yank Sailor.
Thanks Chris! I think it's safe to say, the reasons the British won the battle were because of being led by a combat experienced officer in the form of Colonel Pearson and their use of defensive firepower, something that Helmuth von Moltke was a big believer in. The British did the same thing at Kambula and Ulundi where they were led by battle experienced officers and made good use of defensive firepower followed by an offense. It was uncommonly kind of the British to show mercy to the Zulus in the aftermath unlike the later battles. I remember General Herbert Kitchener was quoted in the aftermath of the victory at Omdurman as saying, "I thank the Lord of hosts for giving us victory at such a small cost in our dead and wounded", a victory I might add, which was also achieved through the use of superior defensive firepower. The same applies to Inyezane and certain other engagements in the war. Would you be willing to do videos on the other battles in the war?
In the book “Washing of the Spears” this southern column gets stymied later on, I believe, and the northern column gets defeated and besieged. The battle in which they are defeated takes place on a mountain that was attacked by British cavalry. It’s been many many years since I’ve read this most excellent book but a recap of this battle would be appreciated.
Didn't Roberts' forces use a Gatling gun in Afghanistan a year earlier? I seem to remember in Bryron Falwell's book that Roberts was unimpressed with the weapon since it soon jammed.
@@TheHistoryChap You are correct, sir. I remembered accurately that Falwell asserted that the British first used a Gatling gun in Afghanistan, but I couldn't remember for which battle he made this claim. I dusted off my old book to find that the battle was Charasia during the advance to Kabul, but Falwell's claim is mistaken since this battle was fought on October 6, 1879 and Gatlings were certainly used before that at Ulundi and, of course, Inyazane. Don't believe everything you read!
Oh you’re the chap with the weird clam bricks. Your wall looks great. Can you eat the “books” I think you called them? I mean. Muscles and clams aren’t oysters but I have yet to try “books”.
Please talk about the free state basotho wars that were fought between the basotho kingdom and the orange free state in Lesotho in 1858, First, I heard about this was a week ago, and as far as I'm aware, it's mostly forgotten about, Work your magic and bring this story to life!
wow a battle that I never knew anything about from the Zulu war thanks for sharing and insight I tot he Gatling fun as I’d always thought it was first used in the final battles of the Sudan. that poor lad Martin being swept away and his body never recovered ❤ ❤ ❤ more of accident then combat
@@rodgerhargoon3402 And this has what to do with the Zulus? PS The various potentates and rajahs had been doing worse for a lot longer. PPS The Limeys were trying to keep Inja out of Japanese hands since, as colonial masters go, the Nips were Hell on earth in comparison and the Mahatma was dcoing everything he could to throw sand in the gears.
Another interesting What -If ? , with some Gatlings at Ishandlwana, how could've ended the fight ? Assuming naturally that the MGs were well placed and protected, surely at least one of the attacking "horns" would've been disrupted, ruining Zulu 's tactic.
Number 2 Column was held in reserve and it's commander Durnford was at Rorkes Drift that morning and was ordered by Chelmsford to take all his available men up to the Isandlwana camp to reinforce it, which he failed to do. Instead he ordered his men to leave the camp and chase after retiring Zulus.
@@janesdaUnfortunately Zulu Dawn follows The Washing Of The Spears book by Donald Morris and is an apologist for Durnford. In Zulu Dawn, Chelmsford is the arrogant idiotic villain and Durnford is the all wise, all knowing hero. This was not the reality. Zulu Dawn doesn't show Durnford ignoring his orders and interfering with Pulleine's orders to act only on the defensive. The film is very inaccurate. In real life Chelmsford and Durnford didn't even meet after the invasion began. The film shows them meeting at Isandlwana camp. Chelmsford had already left six hours before Durnford arrived there.
Not quite forgotten as I would have to heard of it to forget it! And i was brought up in South Africa and have visited many of the famous Zulu and Boer War sites including going up Majuba Hill which at about 2400 m isn't really a hill but a substantial Drakensberg mountain!
Excellent video The Zulu War was a total war against an organised warrior nation. The British nation could not come to terms, how an African nation was holding them up. The British were also accountable to the various Jewish finance Houses, who wanted to open up gold and diamond mines producing as quickly as possible.
Though the British should never have invaded it was the Zulus who made it a total war. Before Isandlwana the British took and treated Zulu prisoners. Even letting them go if they gave up their guns. After what the Zulus did at Isandlwana the British stopped all that.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Isandlwana happened because the British surrounded the Zulus to force them into battle, I think it was a guy called Commander Farer of the British army
@frankie170 The British didn't force the Zulus to massacre everyone and everything they got their hands on, including cooks, orderlies, camp pets and horses. It was the Zulus who upped the ante and made it total war.
Little wrong with Chelmsford's troop deployment in a military sense. The cut off recon patrol requested assistance. Chelmsford neither ignored their request or sent a half hearted token force out to help. He sent a strong force out to help and kept a strong force back at the camp. This was a sound decision. His orders were to keep the forces at the camp drawn in and to act only on the defensive, protecting the camp. He then sent for Durnford and his men to move to the camp to reinforce it's numbers. Unfortunately Durnford ignored his orders, and those given to Pulleine to act only on the defensive, and decided to leave the camp and chase after retiring Zulus, looking for action. He requested Pulleine to support him. It was Durnford who was senior commander at Isandlwana and it was Durnford who made the tactical decisions that doomed the camp. Had Durnford followed his own orders and those given to Pulleine the camp likely wouldn't have been lost. A thousand rifles drawn in close to the camp and acting only on the defensive would probably have been too much for the Zulus to get through. They had no answer against concentrated British firepower. Durnford doomed Isandlwana.
Great stuff.I have spent many hours studying Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift
but was unaware of this battle.Thankyou.
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Yet another well told tale, thank you.
My pleasure
So great to be reminded of this very interesting period.
I visited isandhlawa and Rorkes drift in the late 1990s and had a fascinating few days being guided around the area
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I am painting two miniature armies of British and Zulus representing the battle of Inyezane. In fact while listening to this video I am painting a regiment of NNC.
very relaxing
Very cool, too
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It must have been an exciting time in the military in the 19th century, fighting one enemy after another in parts of the world civvies would never get to see. Unlike the British Army of the Rhine. Another gripping tale, thanks Chris.
I imagine reading of the campaigns over breakfast must have been a highlight for many a nice safe civilian Victorian Papa before catching the omnibus to his clerical job in the city but I suspect not quite so exciting for the military. Long boring postings lasting years in far away countries with virtually no action or even none at all before being posted back to the UK as the 'home' battalion of the regiment. And just as you embark for home the natives become restless......
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Thank you Chris, great video!
I'm amazed I hadn't heard of this engagement before.
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Once again I have been transported across the globe, through time and back. Thank you for another well done job!
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Great video of a forgotten battle Chris.
Not forgotten, just overlooked.
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A great telling as always Chris.
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As always, very entertaining and great history lesson. From across the pond thank you for the great content
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A very well done video Chris and I really appreciate all the visual aids you add into it which shows the time and effort you put into your videos. It seems kind of sad that a battle would be forgotten especially when the participants do not get a chance to forget about it. Kudos to you, amigo 👏 🙌 👍
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I'm coming to this video two days late. Interestingly, yours popped up immediately after I finished watching "Forgotten Weapons" latest video on the Martini Henry rifle. Thank you for another great story.
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Another magnificent piece of work.....as expected.
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Thank you for covering this battle read about ages ago in a book by Michael Barthope
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I suspect that the Gatling gun's psychological effect was even greater than whatever the amount of hits the Gunners actually made.
The steady Da-Da-Da-Da! Must have been horrifying
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Loved it Chris…keep them coming
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Hi , Chris , another interesting story based around Zulu`s . Thank you for your hard work Chris .. Cheers from Yorkshire
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Thank you for such a great video! This part of the war has always interested me and the order of battle wasn’t easy to find. Thank you for taking the time to cover this. I hope you will make a follow up about the siege to come??
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Even in WW1 there was the Naval Brigade, comprising those who'd been accepted in the RN but who had no ship to go to (numbers of course were finite). The poet, Rupert Brooke was in the Naval Division (I think there were 3 'regiments') but died during the voyage to Cape Helles. Other notables were Bernard Freyburg, who became an army general in WW2, one of Asquith's sons and Frederick Kelly, Australian-born composer and pianist who'd won gold rowing for Britain in the 1908 Olympics. He was to die in the very last days of the Somme.
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Thank you, Chris! I like all your videos but I have a particular appreciation for the Zulu wars. Great video!
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Fabulous and interesting content as always sir!
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Thank you for remembering this oft forgotten battle, I remember reading the Buffs sneered at the sailors charging the central spur as the navy ran pell-mell in no particular order, but the Zulus gave way, and the Navy had the last laugh!
And you proud of that 🤦🏿♂️
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Brilliant narration Sir, you brought the near forgotten battle to life. Well done and I humbly await your next video lecture.
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Another great video indeed you're born for this kind of work my friend, thanks for sharing.
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A great story! First I have heard of this battle. Thanks for enlightening us all.
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Great video and so glad you keep telling us about these nearly forgotten battles, thanks and stay well.
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A well video on a very interesting topic, Chris. Thanks a lot!
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Thank you sir 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
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Fantastic story telling, thankyou.
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Fascinating .... Superb work😊
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Thank you so very much Chris
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Great post, thank you.
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A great video Chris. It’s important we look at all aspects of these campaigns, not just the parts that Hollywood has seen fit to dramatically recreate.
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Ah, I remember you talking about this on the livestream - looking forward to the video - so the question is why did they win this battle vs the others?
There were many fewer Zulu here than at Isandlwana, the single Gatling might not be more effective than 100 men, but a more energetic leader and better placement might have done it.
Well the zulus didn't press the attack very much. They retired pretty early when compared to something like Rorkes Drift
A well narrated story Mr.History chap. Well done!
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I love your channel and have been an avid viewer for a while. Stories like this one are the reason I enjoy the channel so much. I wish someone would cover all the small American engagements like you do for the British. You've done a few of them on that subject, and it always has me wanting more. One day you will run out of British topics (probably not soon lol), and you will be able to move on to adjacent ones like American, Indians, Australians, etc.
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Another well put together video! Would you consider doing a video on the aforementioned Naval Brigades?
Will add that to my ever growing list. Thanks for watching.
@@TheHistoryChap Good luck with all that! And thanks for the reply.
Yes, would love to hear about the Cato street conspiracy! Great video man
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Filling in the gaps. Good story well told. Cheers!
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Thank you for this presentation of a forgotten battle. I never knew that this battle occurred.
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I really enjoy your videos. Hard to imagine that these actions only took place 35 years before WW
1.
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As a Rooinek-Pomkraut Soutie Saffer, I’d like to point out that it was a good job the Zulus didn’t invent rifles (or anything else for that matter). However, brave and wonderful, they were and still are!
An interesting and often overlooked fact is that the Zulus possessed a significant amount of rifles. At Rorke’s Drift most of the British casualties were from
Rifle fire.
@@TheHistoryChap They must have gotten most of their rifles and ammunition from the slaughter at Isandlwana.
@robertrobert7924 the Zulus had been purchasing Rifles from European traders since the days of Shaka.
When the British invaded Zululand it is reported that the Zulus already had over 20,000 Rifles in thier possession, though many of these were older single shot Rifles.
King Cetshwayo had purchased over a thousand Martini Henry Rifles earlier, before hostilities.
The Zulus had also been purchased French muzzle loading muskets, nicknamed the Zulu Shotgun.
Didn't Shaka himself invent the short Iklwa?
@@Johnny-Thunder I would say that's more of a modification than an invention.
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I want to know more about the British guy that landed on D-Day with a sword Linda bow with arrows
3:57 Bottom row, 2nd from the left: That guy moved his head while the camera shutter was open.
Blimey, you are observant. Had never noticed that before.
The Zulu war is fascinating! Imagine being in the Navy and finding yourself in the middle of Africa.
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@@TheHistoryChap absolutely top notch!
History is fascinating
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Hi Chris I wonder if you could tell the story of the taking of be sheba when the british and the australain light horse attacked and took it from the Turkish and german army in the first world war .
I will add to my list. thanks for the suggestion.
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I really enjoy these videos on the Victorian era, maybe something on the Anglo Mysore wars or Anglo Burmese wars.
Just a thought, thanks for your work.
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I like the way you keep educating me concerning the ZULU battles. As a PC gamer, I think any of these engagements would make a great game. I'm sure that American Black leaders would strongly disagree.
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“Oh, for a gatling!” groaned [Captain] Good, as he contemplated the serried phalanxes beneath us. “I would clear that plain in twenty minutes”. Quote from Haggard's “King Solomon’s Mines”. Echoes of Inyezane here?
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Very insightful video, Learnt something knew I did. I too have a small request though, when discussing troop movements and the like it would be nice to see more diagrams or map usage as it can be quiet disorientating thinking "which ravine? Who's left? Where was the naval Brigade at that point?" and so on. Otherwise very interesting
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Can you do the same story for the Royal Navy involvement at Ladysmith - origins of the Royal Naval Field Gun competition? Many thanks.
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Hmm, The audio is perfect on this one and it's only from a couple of months ago. Did you start using new software for the audio? It was a great relief to listen to your stories without the gated mic knocking off the first word of every sentence. Sorry I keep banging on about this but you make wonderful perfect videos and the one flaw is that stupid software.
Not sure I understand. no one else is giving me this feedback. Maybe drop me a line via my website so we can continue the conversation.
Good afternoon Sir. Enjoy your content, long time follower. I have a question about the Royal Navy Sailors serving on land campaigns. Did they serve under their own officers or did they fall under the command of the Army? Also, did they fight or were used primarily to serve the guns? Thank you Sir!
- A retired Yank Sailor.
Thanks Chris! I think it's safe to say, the reasons the British won the battle were because of being led by a combat experienced officer in the form of Colonel Pearson and their use of defensive firepower, something that Helmuth von Moltke was a big believer in. The British did the same thing at Kambula and Ulundi where they were led by battle experienced officers and made good use of defensive firepower followed by an offense. It was uncommonly kind of the British to show mercy to the Zulus in the aftermath unlike the later battles. I remember General Herbert Kitchener was quoted in the aftermath of the victory at Omdurman as saying, "I thank the Lord of hosts for giving us victory at such a small cost in our dead and wounded", a victory I might add, which was also achieved through the use of superior defensive firepower. The same applies to Inyezane and certain other engagements in the war. Would you be willing to do videos on the other battles in the war?
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Great story never heard about this
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In the book “Washing of the Spears” this southern column gets stymied later on, I believe, and the northern column gets defeated and besieged. The battle in which they are defeated takes place on a mountain that was attacked by British cavalry. It’s been many many years since I’ve read this most excellent book but a recap of this battle would be appreciated.
Very outdated book, repeating many myths. Best to read modern works by Knight and Snook.
Cheers.
Didn't Roberts' forces use a Gatling gun in Afghanistan a year earlier? I seem to remember in Bryron Falwell's book that Roberts was unimpressed with the weapon since it soon jammed.
Interesting. I thought he used than at Kabul later in 1879
@@TheHistoryChap You are correct, sir. I remembered accurately that Falwell asserted that the British first used a Gatling gun in Afghanistan, but I couldn't remember for which battle he made this claim. I dusted off my old book to find that the battle was Charasia during the advance to Kabul, but Falwell's claim is mistaken since this battle was fought on October 6, 1879 and Gatlings were certainly used before that at Ulundi and, of course, Inyazane. Don't believe everything you read!
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There should be more movies and tv shows about The Anglo Zulu War
Blame SABC
@@darkgalaxy5548 if there were more Zulu War movies and tv shows now it would all be cgi crap
@@ethanlewis1459 too true
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Make a video about the siege of Ishoi.
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How about an Ep on the battle of Gingindlovu, my great grandfather was standing in the square on that day
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Oh you’re the chap with the weird clam bricks. Your wall looks great. Can you eat the “books” I think you called them? I mean. Muscles and clams aren’t oysters but I have yet to try “books”.
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Please talk about the free state basotho wars that were fought between the basotho kingdom and the orange free state in Lesotho in 1858,
First, I heard about this was a week ago, and as far as I'm aware, it's mostly forgotten about,
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Thank you Chris. I still can't get your website to accept $US so I can join your Supporters' Club.
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Never knew about Inyezane. Clearly told!
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Ginginglovu (place of the Elephant) I grew up close to that area
Maybe a movie should be made of this battle to go along with ZULU and ZULU DAWN so we'll have a trilogy.
It would be good although I'm not sure many studios would go for it nowadays.
Not PC enough.
wow a battle that I never knew anything about from the Zulu war thanks for sharing and insight I tot he Gatling fun as I’d always thought it was first used in the final battles of the Sudan.
that poor lad Martin being swept away and his body never recovered ❤ ❤ ❤ more of accident then combat
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Great story, thanks Chris. Im slightly puzzled as to why it was a naval force that had a gatling gun. Was the gatling not designed for land use?
The Gatling gun instruction manual says that if you experience a jam, check that there aren’t any strawberries stuck in the barrel
Strawberry was the slang term for a hang-fire.
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10:59 "...an unseasonably hot day." It was January 22, a month into summer. How was it "unseasonably" hot?
Higher temperatures than usual at that time of year.
The Gatlin gun was affectionately referred to as
'THE COFFEE GRINDER'.
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Are those pewter steins on top of the bricks?
Not stone bug the drinking kind…
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Very interesting that the Naval contingent had a Gatling Gun. Were any of them Royal Marines?
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200 sailors and marines forming up... a brigade?🤨🤨 That barely sounds like a battalion, number-wise.
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Excellent video. It seems the British made a series of bad decision. Amazing that they weren’t all killed being strung out for miles.
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Her Majesty's lads at their best.
Should also a great video on how they looted India for almost 300 years and lord churchill cursing Gandhi.....😂😂😂😂
@@rodgerhargoon3402 And this has what to do with the Zulus?
PS The various potentates and rajahs had been doing worse for a lot longer.
PPS The Limeys were trying to keep Inja out of Japanese hands since, as colonial masters go, the Nips were Hell on earth in comparison and the Mahatma was dcoing everything he could to throw sand in the gears.
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Brilliant 👏 always wondered if the East Kents Buffs were in the Zulu wars .ex Queens
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Did the Zulus or any of Dutch or British forces still use Snider Rifles or Carbines?
'The lookout says, ZULUS coming this way Sir, Thousands if em'..
It was that 'Oh Bugger' moment.
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Another interesting What -If ? , with some Gatlings at Ishandlwana, how could've ended the fight ? Assuming naturally that the MGs were well placed and protected, surely at least one of the attacking "horns" would've been disrupted, ruining Zulu 's tactic.
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They could still buy their commission, back then??
Yes.
Where was No. 2 column? The rank & file of the NNC were wise to retreat, unlike their officers.
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Number 2 Column was held in reserve and it's commander Durnford was at Rorkes Drift that morning and was ordered by Chelmsford to take all his available men up to the Isandlwana camp to reinforce it, which he failed to do. Instead he ordered his men to leave the camp and chase after retiring Zulus.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Thanks, that's clearly something in Zulu Dawn, which passed me by.
@@janesdaUnfortunately Zulu Dawn follows The Washing Of The Spears book by Donald Morris and is an apologist for Durnford. In Zulu Dawn, Chelmsford is the arrogant idiotic villain and Durnford is the all wise, all knowing hero. This was not the reality. Zulu Dawn doesn't show Durnford ignoring his orders and interfering with Pulleine's orders to act only on the defensive. The film is very inaccurate. In real life Chelmsford and Durnford didn't even meet after the invasion began. The film shows them meeting at Isandlwana camp. Chelmsford had already left six hours before Durnford arrived there.
12:22 Gatling guns seem to have been rather unreliable.
The guns weren't the problem per se, it was the ammo (or cartridge cases that jammed the gun).
Black powder is filthy.
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As a US Navy vet, Go Navy! This goes in my historical file
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400 bodies sounds very high. You can't really trust the British account as there was bound to be a massive exageration following Isandlwana.
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Not quite forgotten as I would have to heard of it to forget it! And i was brought up in South Africa and have visited many of the famous Zulu and Boer War sites including going up Majuba Hill which at about 2400 m isn't really a hill but a substantial Drakensberg mountain!
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Which? Zulu or Zulu Dawn?
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Why does that part of history sound familiar
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Yes, they stopped for breakfast, but... did they later stop for second breakfast?
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Why would you waste valuable artillery ammunition on an empty village?
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The Zulu War was a total war against an organised warrior nation.
The British nation could not come to terms, how an African nation was holding them up.
The British were also accountable to the various Jewish finance Houses, who wanted to open up gold and diamond mines producing as quickly as possible.
Though the British should never have invaded it was the Zulus who made it a total war. Before Isandlwana the British took and treated Zulu prisoners. Even letting them go if they gave up their guns. After what the Zulus did at Isandlwana the British stopped all that.
Anglo-American was NOT a "Jewish" finance house.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Isandlwana happened because the British surrounded the Zulus to force them into battle, I think it was a guy called Commander Farer of the British army
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The British didn't force the Zulus to massacre everyone and everything they got their hands on, including cooks, orderlies, camp pets and horses.
It was the Zulus who upped the ante and made it total war.
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Chelmsford was an incompetant. Rourkes drift gave him a smokescreen to hide his bungle in troop deployment and strategy. IMO.
He wasn't at rorkes drift until it was over.
Little wrong with Chelmsford's troop deployment in a military sense. The cut off recon patrol requested assistance. Chelmsford neither ignored their request or sent a half hearted token force out to help. He sent a strong force out to help and kept a strong force back at the camp. This was a sound decision. His orders were to keep the forces at the camp drawn in and to act only on the defensive, protecting the camp. He then sent for Durnford and his men to move to the camp to reinforce it's numbers.
Unfortunately Durnford ignored his orders, and those given to Pulleine to act only on the defensive, and decided to leave the camp and chase after retiring Zulus, looking for action. He requested Pulleine to support him.
It was Durnford who was senior commander at Isandlwana and it was Durnford who made the tactical decisions that doomed the camp. Had Durnford followed his own orders and those given to Pulleine the camp likely wouldn't have been lost.
A thousand rifles drawn in close to the camp and acting only on the defensive would probably have been too much for the Zulus to get through. They had no answer against concentrated British firepower.
Durnford doomed Isandlwana.
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Not really, considering they sent Wolseley to replace him and Chelmsford was never given a command again.