The Birth Of Vertigo Comics: Karen Berger Explains How It Began (Behind The Panel) | SYFY WIRE

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  • @mossadon
    @mossadon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Excellent interview, SyFy.
    Much better for being a bit longer than the almost pointless 4 or 5 min bits and much deserved for Karen, a unique talent in the world of Comics.
    More of these 20 - 30 min ACTUAL interviews PLEASE !
    Thanks.

    • @vincevalentine22
      @vincevalentine22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ivadinuff Shudupyabitch Yeah, I hate that the TH-cam general audience forces these channels to feel like they have to shorten their content. I really enjoy these longer interview sessions.

  • @vincevalentine22
    @vincevalentine22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    These interviews are fantastic and I'm super thrilled that there is a channel dedicated to getting the scoop on how things lined up for some of the industries most important figures. They truly had fascinating lives.

  • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77
    @RogerioPereiradaSilva77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Miss Berger almost single handedly changed the American comic book market for the better by bringing a much needed diversity, tapping onto that European talent and their sensibilities, expanding the concept of what "comics" are, redefining boundaries and widening their reach to new readers, the kinda reader that wouldn't bother picking up a comic book otherwise. I have many friends whose first comic was either Sandman, Black Orchid or Hellblazer.
    What this lady has accomplished throughout her career is nothing short of AMAZING and that's why she deserves all the praise and accolades she gets!

    • @mossadon
      @mossadon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Indeed !
      Well said, Rogerio.

    • @markmolino6091
      @markmolino6091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You said it best bro.

    • @Slask7
      @Slask7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Absolutely right. We owe her for some of the finest comic books ever, written and drawn by terrific artists she personally recruited.

    • @bluespaceman7937
      @bluespaceman7937 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I haven't read enough Vertigo myself yet, but I have liked what little I've tried.

    • @vollsticks
      @vollsticks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said mate, would agree with everything you said except with a small caveat: she expanded the concept of what *mainstream* comics are, not "comics", full stop. Respectfully.

  • @makcity7850
    @makcity7850 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A Legend in the field of comics, this is what an Editor does and those at Marvel and DC comics now can learn a few things on how to make great comic books.

  • @Hibbs4Prez
    @Hibbs4Prez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    She ain't lying about the run of Perez on Wonder Woman. Just stellar.

  • @TheAnt2244
    @TheAnt2244 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I was never a massive fan of the DC Universe back then, but I loved Vertigo.

  • @TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
    @TheGuyInTheCheapSeats ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Comics needs another Karen Berger right now.

  • @cosmoissleeping
    @cosmoissleeping 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Karen Berger is a comic book hall of famer.

  • @lucxl.5796
    @lucxl.5796 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I devoured the Sandman series as a fifteen year old more than a decade ago, and read every intro, forward, end note, etc (I was obsessed with that world and what went into it) In those places, Neil Gaiman always detailed his interactions with Karen and what she enabled. So nice to see her role highlighted !

  • @BillNyeGuy
    @BillNyeGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Rip Vertigo Comics!

    • @miller42
      @miller42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@quinnhansen4457 They decided to hire untalented people and each new book was a failure so they had no other choice than to shut it down.

    • @alexauclair1
      @alexauclair1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miller42 you need to reevaluate that. They had more talent than many .

  • @gevdarg
    @gevdarg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    EXCELLENT choice for an interview!
    Looking forward to Jenette Kahn!!

  • @coreymay918
    @coreymay918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was in Jr high when I read issues 1, 2 & 4 of The Sandman and turned my back on traditional super heroes

  • @dsalangsang
    @dsalangsang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rest in Peace Vertigo. You will be missed 😔

    • @skeezaworkan
      @skeezaworkan หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's back.

  • @DavidGonzalez-tv2lf
    @DavidGonzalez-tv2lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that section, you've been interviewing all my heroes on the industry

  • @mamoodnoir2507
    @mamoodnoir2507 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Absolute Legend! Big reason I lean more DC.

    • @piricsiremus2405
      @piricsiremus2405 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Vertigo has nothing to do with DC ,they just owned the brand which they quickly anihilated once Jim Lee came in power.

    • @mamoodnoir2507
      @mamoodnoir2507 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Saying Vertigo has nothing to do with DC is pretty stupid. It's a mature readers DC imprint. You do realize Karen was an editor at DC right? It's not like Vertigo started as an independent company and then was bought by DC.

    • @piricsiremus2405
      @piricsiremus2405 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not stupid at all it is owned by DC but that's where the buck stops , nothing that came out of there creatively comes close to the DC universe,those comics have as much in common with DC as Spider man has with Mickey Mouse, that's why your statement was a bit weird to me i was a huge fan of vertigo during the years never would i say that i lean towards DC just because of that, and also i don't buy anything from them aside from the od Batman comic here and there.

    • @piricsiremus2405
      @piricsiremus2405 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And also Vertigo pretty much became Image because most the artists migrated over there after the Didio Lee team came in and started cancelling books left and right ike the Hellblazer series.

    • @Hibbs4Prez
      @Hibbs4Prez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You're a moron. As someone alive during that era DC creating Vertigo was a huge deal which got a lot of publicity. DC created Vertigo after the success of works like Swamp Thing and Watchmen because they could repeat such good results by creating a new mature line that would be free of any stigma and preconceptions. But it was DEFINITELY a DC brand, ran by people who were groomed by DC comics and still working for DC Comics. This was the 80s and early 90s in which virtually every groundbreaking book was being done by DC (Jim Shooter's Marvel during that period lacked any creativity or risk-taking). Ronin. Camelot 3000. The New Teen Titans. The Dark Knight. Batman Year One. Watchmen. Crisis on Infinite Earths which was far superior to Marvel's Secret Wars. DC was winning all the industry awards and breaking new ground and this led them confident enough to create the Vertigo line. The DC imprint was everywhere. Eventually DC fell back into complacency but not before an extended run of comic book excellence.

  • @alexauclair1
    @alexauclair1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She was editor for all of my favorite American comics. Top notch

  • @alejandrozerep8667
    @alejandrozerep8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KB was the best!.
    Without her, we couldnt had the Whole Vertido Line.

  • @gregwest9493
    @gregwest9493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I heard from Paul Levitz that she was crucial to the British Invasion of the 80s was because she was young enough to go out and keep up with the Brit's drinking habits.

    • @Slask7
      @Slask7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well, she was not crucial, she started the British Invasion!

  • @douglasbriel6103
    @douglasbriel6103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 1st Swamp Thing movie was not horrible. And Martin Pasko's early issues should not be ignored.

  • @stevevondoom4140
    @stevevondoom4140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    80's hellblazer titles are awesome even by todays standards. parts of "the Fear Machine" remind me of stranger things etc.... psychics and magical conspiracies etc....vertigos stories aged well.

    • @antiquatedinfancy2290
      @antiquatedinfancy2290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't agree more, it breaks my heart that Jamie Delano never seems to get the love he deserves, being the first Hellblazer writer and the most interesting Animal Man writer between Morrison and Lemire (plus several other gems). Why is no one throwing money at this man? (great interview, by the way)

  • @alexmansfield9197
    @alexmansfield9197 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Imagine being one of the 14 people who hit “dislike” on this wonderful interview with arguably one of the most important people in comics of all time.

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    RIP Vertigo ffffffffffffffff

  • @SampsoniteR
    @SampsoniteR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview

  • @DJJunkfoodJay
    @DJJunkfoodJay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Smart and classy. Karen Berger is a beautiful woman.

  • @vollsticks
    @vollsticks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmao UKCAC '91 was my first ever comics convention! scored many cool sketches, among them a Mark Bode Raphael, Mark Buckingham Batman and probably one of my most treasured pieces of art, my Dave Gibbons Martha Washington sketch!
    Cool of Karen to mention Maus, too :)

  • @nandoginkaku7610
    @nandoginkaku7610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vertigo may have ended but some if those books that were on vertigo live on. Thank u for giving us doom patrol

  • @EI-diablo-r9i
    @EI-diablo-r9i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alan Moore knew exactly how to run things. Lol
    That's true
    He was so grand. His stories gee
    And we have Morrison now.... It just didn't feel like a magical story anymore.
    Moore could've made DC so great if everyone () just stepped out of his way.

  • @maris4137
    @maris4137 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow. Great interview. Can we get an Alan Moore one? 😊

  • @vladimirtoss289
    @vladimirtoss289 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A true legend, Thelma Schoonmaker in her field.

  • @biker944
    @biker944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    vertigo is awesome

  • @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
    @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bring back Berger and Vertigo!

  • @TheReviewDesk
    @TheReviewDesk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always great to see comic greats in interviews, but Syfy, your interviewer needs to interrupt your guests less.

  • @Arseface-X80
    @Arseface-X80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She is BRILLIANT

  • @Rob_Shoot
    @Rob_Shoot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    DC messed up by letting her go.

  • @Gyork_
    @Gyork_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Is it just me or she looks a lot like Helen Mirren?

    • @Theomite
      @Theomite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now we know who to cast to play her in her biopic.

    • @gabrieliatarelli
      @gabrieliatarelli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Theomite you mean Karen's biopic right?

    • @Theomite
      @Theomite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gabrieliatarelli Right.

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And an older version of Laura Linney.

  • @KonSimpl72
    @KonSimpl72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    She would weep bitter tears of disappointment at the state 'Vertigo' (i.e.: only in name) is currently in.

  • @alejandrozerep8667
    @alejandrozerep8667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alan Moore was and is a wind-flowind fresh and pointer DireCtly air to the state of art's comicbook.
    Thanks we've haven him.
    Dc has so muchos different without him. And his friendship with Neil Graiman.
    Dont de forget Miracleman.

  • @carlitosspicy
    @carlitosspicy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is Awesome❗️ Cool to see my Friend mom doing all this❗️ Amazing❗️💥💥🤘🏼🙏🏻

  • @airtec87
    @airtec87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very cool person, much respect to you.

  • @dawolf4274
    @dawolf4274 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As much as I loved Vertigo, my annoyance with it was always this ---- pretense, that it was (or tried to be) separate from the DC universe. Completely absurd you could have characters with an already established history just suddenly disappear from mainstream. Just felt some writers wanted to just be purposely pretentious. Trust me, Alan Moore & Grant Morrison just wanted to make good stories. Not an "Alternate universe"

    • @adamhasser2010
      @adamhasser2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      None of the writes, or Karen I'm guessing, wanted to be weighed down by decades of continuity. It should have been separate from the DC Universe. That was kind of the point...

  • @swanay1
    @swanay1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's sad that Vertigo is closing

  • @rigsby1454
    @rigsby1454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an important person for comics

  • @TheChuckers123
    @TheChuckers123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    R.I.P. DC Vertigo...😭

  • @chycho
    @chycho 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks.

    • @BGcam
      @BGcam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      chycho oh snap, I found Chycho in the comments! No surprise that you appreciate a comics history interview like this :)

    • @chycho
      @chycho 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haha.... indeed, brother :)

  • @fabianopernil
    @fabianopernil 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing woman. At the end theres a really beautiful cello music anyone knows what it is or who Is playing?

  • @whyloechoedome8122
    @whyloechoedome8122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legendary

  • @johnpaladin1533
    @johnpaladin1533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    And later on the DEATH of Vertigo comics w/ Zoe Quinn....RIP sweet prince

  • @onomatopoeia5540
    @onomatopoeia5540 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    vertigo>marvel

  • @slurmcarey3069
    @slurmcarey3069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She's cool

  • @GiPelagio
    @GiPelagio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody knows where I can find the illustration at 10:25? Looked over at sandman covers but didn't find anything that resembles it :c

  • @v-trigger6137
    @v-trigger6137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She should explain how it died as well

    • @marcosmoura138
      @marcosmoura138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think She wasn't there anymore

  • @pandawolf5990
    @pandawolf5990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bruh this guy stops her and legit just talked over her

  • @joncarroll2040
    @joncarroll2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only time Neil Gaiman has been lumped in with "several others"

  • @CVargas202
    @CVargas202 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    DC>than MARVEL

    • @89five3five
      @89five3five 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cesar A Vargas lol. DC spent most of its history trying to BE Marvel in terms of content.

  • @luibond9418
    @luibond9418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Vertigo>Marvel

  • @EI-diablo-r9i
    @EI-diablo-r9i 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gloria berger

  • @Melvinshermen
    @Melvinshermen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goodbye vertigo why

  • @Dale_V
    @Dale_V 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The classic Karen 😬

  • @alexpaleale
    @alexpaleale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14 dislikes must be from Marvel and DC

    • @zarrarzeez
      @zarrarzeez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You do realize that Vertigo is a part of DC, right?

  • @DechantMusic
    @DechantMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We need her back... Vertigo is in ruins,with all new titles filled with identity politics and propaganda. with a crazy lady running the show. :(

    • @adamhasser2010
      @adamhasser2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      She has her own line at Dark Horse called Berger Books.

  • @geinikan1kan
    @geinikan1kan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an important editor. Must admit, I never liked Gaiman's "Sandman." So bloody pretentious with all those metaphorical characters. Death. Give me a break. Always felt like a writer slumming in four colors. Moore is something else. Milligan's "Shade" was excellent too. And of course Constantine.