Great video and really top notch work. Your friend is lucky to have you around, this isn't a job that many guys could easily do. You've put a lot of work into your video production and your tips and tricks are greatly appreciated,.
Great content for us welders! This is why I watch. I'm glad you used the spoolgun on this one. I liked how you tig weled over top of the spoolgun weld. Its nice to see the different options we have to do repairs for different circumstances or scenarios. Thanks CB
Tha TIG was an issue with overeating...I burned up a TIG torch doing that too. With the MIG I'd just stop and cool it every once in awhile and didn't get the part near as hot
So much real world advice about the reality of repairing aluminum in this one. I say again, “Aluminum is Satan’s metal”! Pure evil! I have learned most of what you covered from experience (with the exception of the “death wheel”…, haven’t been brave enough to try that one yet). The bee’s wax trick, I learned from you and not only use it, I’ve passed that on to others as well. Thanks for the video CB.
I think that a slipper clutch between the motor and the gearbox is the only long term fix for that. Aluminum or copper bolts between the motor and gear box would be another idea but someone would be replacing them all the time. I’m honestly surprised that they can’t program in a set amount of torque from the motor to prevent all this. Job security for us! Thanks for the tips and tricks.
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I'd start looking at cast iron or cast steel gearboxes. Those are made to be lightweight, but they are in stationary use, no need to be lightweight. The lye based soaps attack the aluminum too.
Dunno if they should be stronger...I thought I explained in the video that one of the ones I reinforced broke and it bent the entire arm of the car wash machine...we'd rather snap some tabs off a gearbox than destroy the entire machine Somethin' gonna give...I'd rather not make this so strong that it destroys something else...these are easy to fix
Seems they need something to absorb that heavy shock. Maybe a spring loaded clutch, or even an old fashioned shear pin arrangement. Ever use that 30A gun on your XMT? I have the same rig, and use for aluminum and hard wire. Thanks for sharing another real world video! 😊
Nice work CB. If it starts costing too much , your buddy may have to hire an attendant to watch the carwash and keep the modified vehicle's out. I wonder if they have had any complaints about vehicle damage when the gear box breaks. Thanks for sharing
We don't really want them much stronger...I keep saying that when one of the ones I reinforced broke it was strong enough to bend the arm of the car wash machine...I'd rather snap the gearbox than destroy the entire machine...these gearboxes are easy to fix
Those gear boxes are becoming a problem I’ve seen every vid on them Your. Reinforcement. Obviously works nice work Hope you get free car washes lol Cheers from Nova Scotia bud
Another great repair, but more importantly, I find your analysis of the 'why' of the repair to be helpful. I agree in not making it too strong to prevent thrashing the machine or someone's car. Curious if the brush assembly (assuming the shaft at the center of brush) can get in advertantly collided with by vehicles, or if they're out of balance causing wobble, or if the brushes deteriorate over time such that you get some vibration. I don't wash my vehicles enough (other than rain) but I'm sure the next time I use an automated carwash, I'll be looking at the mechanism. Thanks!
with as many of those you are doing maybe make a jig with 4 studs on the bolt pattern of the flange to set it up inline so there is no stress when you are finished ? and then you could open the gap a little more for a better weld
Perhaps if. on the brush heads, you used plastic bolts and maybe only half of the holes bolted, the brush would break off when it got wedged rather than stress the drive train and motor.
The motor is 18" long and doesn't move...the brush is six feet long, twice the diameter, and rotates at high rpm. How would adding a bracelet to the motor help?
Weld a couple web to the plate to the case a couple braces from the plate to the case too much Flexin is what causes that to crack retired race car fabricator 😎❤🙏🇱🇷✌
Maybe put a heavier plate the other side of your 1/8" Plate - weld the entire circumference around the box, then drill the holes through? Double re-inforced & it would be super-strong. You have miles of space to make it stronger on the gearbox side. :-) Just my thoughts.
Just found your channel liking it very much had a question I noticed on one of your videos your running a steel blade on your DeWalt chop saw did you have to do anything special everyone said it's not the right rpm if it a evolution saw want to do on mine just wondering thanks much
Looks like it's breaking because of leverage vs twisting. Inclined to suggest gussets and beefing up, but it might be a designed weak point (vs shearing the shaft).
Maybe an option would be a self reset circuit breaker like what is used on boats and RVs. Not sure if the motors are DC or ac, but it may solve the problem.
Don't really want them much stronger...one of the ones that I reinforced broke last time and it was strong enough to bend the arm of the car wash machine...we don't want to destroy the machine and if somethin's gonna give I'd rather it was one of these gearboxes...they are easy to fix
Does it always break opposite the motor flange? Is the motor unsupported and only held on by the gearbox? Maybe you could add the same size shim to the shaft going to the brushes as the size (thickness) of the added plate...
Motor is unsupported but it's tiny compared to the brush...I'm not sure if they always break on the same side because I'm never there when they remove them
Yea welt, that's what happens when ya buy Italian!!! The old timers from back in the day said the way u knew it's an Italian tank, it would have 1 gear forward 4 in reverse!!! (FIAT) FIX IT AGAIN TONY!!!!!!
If 1\8" plate doesn't do anything except raise the brush a tiny amount wouldn't adding a 1\4" or even 1\2" piece of plate be even better yet? Or maybe an 1\8" aluminum plus an 1\8" or 3\16" stainless steel plate sandwiched work to solve this issue? Or just a 1\4" stainless plate without welding? I'm sure its really frustrating having to fix these gearboxes multiple times like this. Just trying to give you an outsider view\opinion & maybe give you an idea to fix this for good. Hope you got it all figured out this time, or its just gonna happen again giving you job security! 🤔👍🏻👌🏻😄🛠️🔧🔩⚡🔌🦺 ✊🏻🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲✊🏻
I keep saying how I'm not comfortable making them any stronger than I have been because of the way that the one bent the arm of the car wash when it broke. We don't want the gearbox to be so strong that it destroys the car wash machine when there is a problem. These gearboxes are easy to fix.
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Keep that car wash open, its the only good one we have! Good work
Thanks! Will do!
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Great video and really top notch work. Your friend is lucky to have you around, this isn't a job that many guys could easily do. You've put a lot of work into your video production and your tips and tricks are greatly appreciated,.
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Great content for us welders! This is why I watch. I'm glad you used the spoolgun on this one.
I liked how you tig weled over top of the spoolgun weld. Its nice to see the different options we have to do repairs for different circumstances or scenarios. Thanks CB
Glad you enjoyed it
Great job! thanks for sharing
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I remember the one where you were tig welding those when you had them in a bucket of water so you didn’t overheat the seals. Great video as usual. 👍
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Tha TIG was an issue with overeating...I burned up a TIG torch doing that too. With the MIG I'd just stop and cool it every once in awhile and didn't get the part near as hot
@@NBSWELDING yes sir. I remember that. Primeweld 200 came with the 150 amp torch. I’ve had the same issue with my AHP200, came with a 150 amp torch.
So much real world advice about the reality of repairing aluminum in this one. I say again, “Aluminum is Satan’s metal”! Pure evil! I have learned most of what you covered from experience (with the exception of the “death wheel”…, haven’t been brave enough to try that one yet). The bee’s wax trick, I learned from you and not only use it, I’ve passed that on to others as well. Thanks for the video CB.
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Second the comment about the shear bolts. Good stuff CB.
If the bolts shear the brush could damage someone's car when it falls off...we can't be doin that
I think that a slipper clutch between the motor and the gearbox is the only long term fix for that. Aluminum or copper bolts between the motor and gear box would be another idea but someone would be replacing them all the time. I’m honestly surprised that they can’t program in a set amount of torque from the motor to prevent all this. Job security for us! Thanks for the tips and tricks.
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I happen to be wearing my NBS Welding 4XL shirt while I was watching thiis video. I'm a large man so when I wear the 4Xl shirts out in public, I wanted you to know it's like a walking billboard and I have answered several questions about NBS welding and told them where to find you on TH-cam!
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Way to get it done!👍🏼
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Awesome as usual !!!
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Excellent video...
Thank you!
Great job CB
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@NBSWELDING you are very welcome
I'd start looking at cast iron or cast steel gearboxes. Those are made to be lightweight, but they are in stationary use, no need to be lightweight.
The lye based soaps attack the aluminum too.
Dunno if they should be stronger...I thought I explained in the video that one of the ones I reinforced broke and it bent the entire arm of the car wash machine...we'd rather snap some tabs off a gearbox than destroy the entire machine
Somethin' gonna give...I'd rather not make this so strong that it destroys something else...these are easy to fix
Seems they need something to absorb that heavy shock. Maybe a spring loaded clutch, or even an old fashioned shear pin arrangement.
Ever use that 30A gun on your XMT? I have the same rig, and use for aluminum and hard wire. Thanks for sharing another real world video! 😊
Never ran a spoolgun with the XMT
Add a spacer between the drive and the brush to equal out the dimensions.
Hasn't been needed
Nice work CB. If it starts costing too much , your buddy may have to hire an attendant to watch the carwash and keep the modified vehicle's out. I wonder if they have had any complaints about vehicle damage when the gear box breaks. Thanks for sharing
It's not damaging the vehicle when it breaks
Just asking, is there room to gusset them corners just a little on the housing?
We don't really want them much stronger...I keep saying that when one of the ones I reinforced broke it was strong enough to bend the arm of the car wash machine...I'd rather snap the gearbox than destroy the entire machine...these gearboxes are easy to fix
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Those gear boxes are becoming a problem I’ve seen every vid on them
Your. Reinforcement. Obviously works nice work
Hope you get free car washes lol
Cheers from Nova Scotia bud
Neither of my trucks fit in the car wash unfortunately I can't use it
Another great repair, but more importantly, I find your analysis of the 'why' of the repair to be helpful.
I agree in not making it too strong to prevent thrashing the machine or someone's car.
Curious if the brush assembly (assuming the shaft at the center of brush) can get in advertantly collided with by vehicles, or if they're out of balance causing wobble, or if the brushes deteriorate over time such that you get some vibration.
I don't wash my vehicles enough (other than rain) but I'm sure the next time I use an automated carwash, I'll be looking at the mechanism.
Thanks!
Lots of questions there that I couldn't answer...dunno
good video
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with as many of those you are doing maybe make a jig with 4 studs on the bolt pattern of the flange to set it up inline so there is no stress when you are finished ? and then you could open the gap a little more for a better weld
Hasn't been needed
@@NBSWELDING all good brother just seemed like a jig would help with set up and not so many clamps love your work and vids
How about utilizing a slipper clutch on the drive unit.
Not really my call
@NBSWELDING I understand have had similar problem with coal dumps when frozen and it stops further damage. Love your programs and thoughts
What do you think of welding two vertical gusset plates on each side of the mounting holes on each ear.
I keep saying we don't want it stronger...we don't want to destroy the machine
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Maybe reassemble with smaller bolts so the bolts break before the cast aluminum--ie make the bolts a sacrificial item?
If the bolts break the brushes could damage someone's vehicle...I can't make the call to risk that
@@NBSWELDING good point... i guess only the lawyers win
Perhaps if. on the brush heads, you used plastic bolts and maybe only half of the holes bolted, the brush would break off when it got wedged rather than stress the drive train and motor.
Can't risk it
Support the weight of the electric motor with another bracket from the electric motor to a solid object.
The motor is 18" long and doesn't move...the brush is six feet long, twice the diameter, and rotates at high rpm.
How would adding a bracelet to the motor help?
Weld a couple web to the plate to the case a couple braces from the plate to the case too much Flexin is what causes that to crack retired race car fabricator
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Maybe add some mechanism that purposely breaks like a shear pin or something. Or make the arm have some kind of elastic member that gives
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Maybe put a heavier plate the other side of your 1/8" Plate - weld the entire circumference around the box, then drill the holes through? Double re-inforced & it would be super-strong. You have miles of space to make it stronger on the gearbox side. :-) Just my thoughts.
Longer bolts to compensate for the thickness then,, I mean sandwich the original baseplate btw, If I wasn't being clear.
If it's stronger the I think it will do unnecessary damage to the car wash machine...I'd rather not do that
@@NBSWELDING Beef up the next bit that breaks... keep going till it's proper. :-) When it stalls before anything breaks, you're done.
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Just found your channel liking it very much had a question I noticed on one of your videos your running a steel blade on your DeWalt chop saw did you have to do anything special everyone said it's not the right rpm if it a evolution saw want to do on mine just wondering thanks much
Yeah I just wrote ya I see now it the 872 DeWalt 1300 rpms
You got it 😃
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Is it the same place on all of them ???seems like it is..
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@NBSWELDING rig a shear pin or some other release mechanism, get a patin!!!
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Looks like it's breaking because of leverage vs twisting. Inclined to suggest gussets and beefing up, but it might be a designed weak point (vs shearing the shaft).
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Maybe an option would be a self reset circuit breaker like what is used on boats and RVs. Not sure if the motors are DC or ac, but it may solve the problem.
Forgot to mention. The breaker would be less than full current, as full current rating tears them apart
Thank you for your support 👍...I don't know if they have tried any changes with the breaker or not but I'll mention it
@@NBSWELDINGGood deal, hope it helps, and thanks for the great video!
Seems to me you should add a 1/4” stainless steel plate on these bases to absorb the stress.
Don't really want them much stronger...one of the ones that I reinforced broke last time and it was strong enough to bend the arm of the car wash machine...we don't want to destroy the machine and if somethin's gonna give I'd rather it was one of these gearboxes...they are easy to fix
🙂🙃😊 **@$$$ One of these days I gotta try welding aluminum just to see?
You can do it!
Does it always break opposite the motor flange? Is the motor unsupported and only held on by the gearbox? Maybe you could add the same size shim to the shaft going to the brushes as the size (thickness) of the added plate...
Motor is unsupported but it's tiny compared to the brush...I'm not sure if they always break on the same side because I'm never there when they remove them
Did you weld the inside? I’m at 4:30 in the vid
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It won’t help your Business but my vote is a bikini car wash 😎
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Ok I was thinking the vibration and the weight were cracking the mounts so I guess I don’t know enough to help the situation. Sorry-
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Yea welt, that's what happens when ya buy Italian!!! The old timers from back in the day said the way u knew it's an Italian tank, it would have 1 gear forward 4 in reverse!!! (FIAT) FIX IT AGAIN TONY!!!!!!
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If 1\8" plate doesn't do anything except raise the brush a tiny amount wouldn't adding a 1\4" or even 1\2" piece of plate be even better yet? Or maybe an 1\8" aluminum plus an 1\8" or 3\16" stainless steel plate sandwiched work to solve this issue? Or just a 1\4" stainless plate without welding? I'm sure its really frustrating having to fix these gearboxes multiple times like this. Just trying to give you an outsider view\opinion & maybe give you an idea to fix this for good. Hope you got it all figured out this time, or its just gonna happen again giving you job security! 🤔👍🏻👌🏻😄🛠️🔧🔩⚡🔌🦺
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I keep saying how I'm not comfortable making them any stronger than I have been because of the way that the one bent the arm of the car wash when it broke. We don't want the gearbox to be so strong that it destroys the car wash machine when there is a problem. These gearboxes are easy to fix.
@NBSWELDING Ok gotcha, job security! 👍🏻👌🏻🤔😄
Looks good really nice work it's ok to wash out the wire feed with the tig are you running 5356?
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Friends with car washes hell who needs enemies. They will work u like where and pay ya like a immigrant
They pay me well...I don't understand the other part of your comment
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if your guy has that much trouble with those, imagine all the other operators - poor design by the co.
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