This is SO fantastic. I love it. I love Galilee. Have you met Fr. Kelly in Magdala? He does a live Sunrise Stroll & Chat every morning. I've watched the sunrise live with him for 3yrs in Magdala. They have two archeology sites there of two synagogues found. So cool. Love your work. Look forward to watching more.
I've bought and read several of your books. Thanks very much for this series. Great stuff. It makes sense to me that Jesus might have come from a wealthier than average family. When you come from a successful/wealthy family, you are more naturally inclined to lead and others are more naturally inclined to follow.
This "tour" of the hamlet of Nazareth and the adjacent towns and cities is very enlightening. I read the Archaeology of Jesus' Nazareth by Ken Dark and your photos and maps along with the description of the locations are a great followup to the book. I now have a far better idea of the world Jesus lived in. Makes me look forward even more to your coming book about Mary and her life. The English version should be released soon...right?
Thank you James for explaining the difference between netzer and nazir I had thought they were the same. Looking forward to the next one on John the Baptizer!
Dr. Tabor, You were talking about Jesus traveling around the area. This makes me have a question about Mary. When Mary traveled to see Elizabeth (mom of John the Baptist) was it rare for a lady to travel back then? Did she have to have a chaperone go with her?
There is very little I find myself disagreeing with your good self over... However I still do not find myself convinced that the Nazorean was named for Nazareth, but rather find my mind clinging to Nazareth as named for the Nazorean. Whether this is 'Branch town' or the 'separated/consecrated'. My doubt here on the term Nazir links to claims that it's root meaning may be 'to vow' and linked to 'nadar', occasionally even a crown or a secular prince. And whilst I acknowledge the point you make concerning the Hebrew spelling... I find myself returning to our forced view of the Nazorean through the filter of Koine Greek. And as an addendum to this: my doubt is further compounded by reading some years ago that, the form of 'man from Nazareth' (a town) we would expect in Koine Greek would be Nazarethenos or Nazarethaios. Yet in NT texts, we find 'Nazoraiou/Nazarenos/Nazoraios'. Which I find a nagging discrepancy. I am not here claiming any great personal scholarship in either Hebrew or Koine rather expressing a nagging doubt since 'the vow keeper' seems to make so much more sense of the material... E.g. John 1: 45-46 'what good can come from keeping a vow'. Rather than out of an obscure hamlet.. Or Matt 4:12 when Yeshua 'leaves the Nazareth' after spending 40 days alone in the wilderness... Which seems weird to me. There are a few other thoughts I have, (e.g. the 'eth' suffix) but that's the core of it.
What I had read was that Nazareth was not marked on any first century maps. It didn't appear until 20-30 years into the second century. That doesn't mean Nazareth didn't exist in the first century. It was likely not large enough to put it on a map until later.
The root נ־ז־ר also means “crown” or “wreath” (in the word נֵזֶר), not just “seclusion” or “monastic”. And according to Klein it also has the meaning of “unpruned branch”. Interesting how similar that last meaning is to נֵצֶר. There is often some shared cloud of meaning in Semitic roots that are mostly the same but with one letter having a similar sound. The verb נוֹצֵר (לִנְצוֹר) means “to guard” or “to keep”, as does the verb נוֹטֵר (לִנְטוֹר). And you see it a lot between similar gutturals and the liquids (i.e. L and R-sound ambiguity), like with the words נַחַל (“wadi, brook, stream”, from the root נ־ח־ל, which has the meaning of flowing by “inheritance”) and נָהָר (“river, stream”, from the root נ־ה־ר, which has the meaning of flowing by emission), as well as the similar root נ־ה־ל, which has the meaning of “guiding”, “leading”, or “conducting”-all of which are remarkably similar semantically.
There's NO indication from ANY Christian texts, whether "canonical" or not, that Mary was from Sepphoris and not from the SAME village Joseph was: Nazareth. Which thus is of course why "Luke" 1:39 would state "they returned into Galilee unto THEIR OWN city [hometown] NAZARETH".
WRONG!! The word "NaZaReth" for the name of the village would be derived from "NaZiR" (meaning "consecrated" or "devoted to by vow"); NOT from "NeTZeR", meaning "branch". Jesus DIDN'T identify HIMSELF with a "branch" anyway. He said "I am THE VINE and you [the apostles] are the BRANCHES." ("John 15:5") Jesus was the "CONSECRATED ONE" just as he was the "ANOINTED One".
I think these "Netzer/Nazir" verses Tabor cites support my thesis that JOHN the Baptizer was a FICTIONAL character creation (like Lazarus) of JOHN (Mark) son of MARY (and Simon "Peter" of Jerusalem) who was implicated in the other "Gospels" as being the mystery man carrying the 🏺of 💧to the 🏠 of the "upper room" where the disciples would eat the "Last Supper" with Jesus. Since ancient Greeks and Romans DIDN't drink their 🍷"straight" because it was too strong so they DILUTED it with 💧(thus the purpose of the 💧🏺s at the marriage feast in Cana), this would have been the implied association of JOHN (Mark) with JOHN the BAPTizer; a "NAZIRite" who DIDN'T drink 🍷NOR "strong [alcoholic] drink". The ONLY OTHER alcoholic drink they had back then was 🍺! Jesus DID but the IRONY (common characteristic of the "Gospel" stories) is that HE came from NAZAReth, the village of the NAZARIM/NAZARites/Consecrated Ones!! I have long noticed that the "New Testament" authors LOVED irony. 😁
Isn't the whole "Jesus was a Nazirite and Nazareth is a modern mistranslation" theory mostly based on the idea that "Nazareth" and "Nazarene" sound the same as "Nazirite" in modern English, which is a very questionable, unscientific and criticizable theory?
Did you say Nazareth is in "what's today called the West Bank"? That's completely incorrect - Nazareth is in Israel, nowhere near the West Bank. I guess you meant to say it's the largest Arab city in the Galilee, which it is.
It is interesting how the sciences promote their assumptions that God 's word is not true. But Jesus WAS well-educated even at the age of 12 and well-learned in the Greek of the LXX. These teachers are the wicked who want to cut "assunder" the cords of love with which he first drew them. Worse, they rob our children.
I think that, at this time it was common to name a place after the community. In this case, the Nazarite, what means today something likeThe Devoted. Jesús lived in Nazareth, but was not from Nazareth and escaped yet with 14 years from there in order to learn and see the world. So your story does not make really sense. He was not a poor boy. You don't work as an Essene in stone mines. You study with a teacher, especially due to the fact that the semitic root nzr means to protect, to watch and Jesús has been protected there until he grew up. It may have changed into the later name Nazareth due to the former habitants with a nazar life, as the hebrew word nazar means to consecrate or to take a vow. Thats the vow we took or take today when following Jesús message. The aramaic writing and hebrew writing of Nazarite is also different according to the Aramaic and greek bible. It could have influenced the translations. It is still Jesús the Consecrated and who took a vote to praise God and work according gods will. Hence its the town of the consecrated. A town is not consecrated by itself, but the life/the people gave its name to the settlement. What it later become is clear. A town devoted to the consecrated son of men. Why should a child which was announced years before and for all were waiting for, be send to work in the stone mines? I am sorry, if I express, that it makes no sense at all.
So Saul characters was following earth elements refused after INSIDE revelation woke about Christ live IN awoke mind become MIND parable of dark sayings to flesh and blood search outside them self dung compared to woke Christ IN MAN riddles never seen by Saul or greatest John Baptist INSIDE them self you fail it also still outside secular dung.
So happy Mr. Tabor takes the time to produce this content! Thank you!
Very much enjoying this new series Dr Tabor. Thank you...😊
74 trips to Israel! I've tried twice and been cancelled on twice - Covid and war. Someday..... Greetings from Upstate SC!
In the meantime, this armchair travelling is gleaming great knowledge! 😀
A captivating discourse as always. Thank you, Dr. Tabor! 🧚♀
Such insight brings me back it time as if I were a time traveler. Thank you.
This is SO fantastic. I love it. I love Galilee. Have you met Fr. Kelly in Magdala? He does a live Sunrise Stroll & Chat every morning. I've watched the sunrise live with him for 3yrs in Magdala. They have two archeology sites there of two synagogues found. So cool. Love your work. Look forward to watching more.
I've bought and read several of your books. Thanks very much for this series. Great stuff. It makes sense to me that Jesus might have come from a wealthier than average family. When you come from a successful/wealthy family, you are more naturally inclined to lead and others are more naturally inclined to follow.
You were a bit younger during the Waco incident Mr Tabor. I was also. Thanks for sharing.
I love this stuff and have learned so much from your presentation.
This "tour" of the hamlet of Nazareth and the adjacent towns and cities is very enlightening. I read the Archaeology of Jesus' Nazareth by Ken Dark and your photos and maps along with the description of the locations are a great followup to the book. I now have a far better idea of the world Jesus lived in. Makes me look forward even more to your coming book about Mary and her life. The English version should be released soon...right?
I’m retired now. This so wonderfully takes me back to my university days.
Thank you again Dr. Tabor 🤓🤗
Fascinating to think w can visit places Jesus helped build
Jesus is a fictional character.
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The house underneath the church is mind blowing. Thank you so much for all of your great content.
Great study 💕 James, i sure wish to get your take on the book of life mentioned in revelation and such. Does the dead really get raised etc. thanks ❤
Thanks again Dr. Tabor!!! Shalom!
Thank you James for explaining the difference between netzer and nazir I had thought they were the same. Looking forward to the next one on John the Baptizer!
Thank you! I’ve looked for someone who delves into the archeology the way you do. It fascinates me how it used to look. I appreciate your insight.
Fantastic episode -- thanks. I'm trying to control my imagination and stick to what is actually known per evidence.
Very interesting! Thanks for all you do.
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Dr. Tabor, You were talking about Jesus traveling around the area. This makes me have a question about Mary. When Mary traveled to see Elizabeth (mom of John the Baptist) was it rare for a lady to travel back then? Did she have to have a chaperone go with her?
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The growth of both Jewish and Palestinian populations in the late 20th and early 21st centuries has been tremendous
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There is very little I find myself disagreeing with your good self over...
However I still do not find myself convinced that the Nazorean was named for Nazareth, but rather find my mind clinging to Nazareth as named for the Nazorean. Whether this is 'Branch town' or the 'separated/consecrated'.
My doubt here on the term Nazir links to claims that it's root meaning may be 'to vow' and linked to 'nadar', occasionally even a crown or a secular prince. And whilst I acknowledge the point you make concerning the Hebrew spelling... I find myself returning to our forced view of the Nazorean through the filter of Koine Greek.
And as an addendum to this: my doubt is further compounded by reading some years ago that, the form of 'man from Nazareth' (a town) we would expect in Koine Greek would be Nazarethenos or Nazarethaios. Yet in NT texts, we find 'Nazoraiou/Nazarenos/Nazoraios'. Which I find a nagging discrepancy.
I am not here claiming any great personal scholarship in either Hebrew or Koine rather expressing a nagging doubt since 'the vow keeper' seems to make so much more sense of the material... E.g. John 1: 45-46 'what good can come from keeping a vow'. Rather than out of an obscure hamlet.. Or Matt 4:12 when Yeshua 'leaves the Nazareth' after spending 40 days alone in the wilderness... Which seems weird to me.
There are a few other thoughts I have, (e.g. the 'eth' suffix) but that's the core of it.
What I had read was that Nazareth was not marked on any first century maps. It didn't appear until 20-30 years into the second century. That doesn't mean Nazareth didn't exist in the first century. It was likely not large enough to put it on a map until later.
The root נ־ז־ר also means “crown” or “wreath” (in the word נֵזֶר), not just “seclusion” or “monastic”. And according to Klein it also has the meaning of “unpruned branch”. Interesting how similar that last meaning is to נֵצֶר.
There is often some shared cloud of meaning in Semitic roots that are mostly the same but with one letter having a similar sound. The verb נוֹצֵר (לִנְצוֹר) means “to guard” or “to keep”, as does the verb נוֹטֵר (לִנְטוֹר). And you see it a lot between similar gutturals and the liquids (i.e. L and R-sound ambiguity), like with the words נַחַל (“wadi, brook, stream”, from the root נ־ח־ל, which has the meaning of flowing by “inheritance”) and נָהָר (“river, stream”, from the root נ־ה־ר, which has the meaning of flowing by emission), as well as the similar root נ־ה־ל, which has the meaning of “guiding”, “leading”, or “conducting”-all of which are remarkably similar semantically.
There's NO indication from ANY Christian texts, whether "canonical" or not, that Mary was from Sepphoris and not from the SAME village Joseph was: Nazareth. Which thus is of course why "Luke" 1:39 would state "they returned into Galilee unto THEIR OWN city [hometown] NAZARETH".
WRONG!! The word "NaZaReth" for the name of the village would be derived from "NaZiR" (meaning "consecrated" or "devoted to by vow"); NOT from "NeTZeR", meaning "branch". Jesus DIDN'T identify HIMSELF with a "branch" anyway. He said "I am THE VINE and you [the apostles] are the BRANCHES." ("John 15:5") Jesus was the "CONSECRATED ONE" just as he was the "ANOINTED One".
The LAST "Davidic prince" of Judah was Nehemiah, alternatively named "Sheshbazzar" and "Zerbabbel". The 🩸lineage apparently DIED OUT with him.
I think these "Netzer/Nazir" verses Tabor cites support my thesis that JOHN the Baptizer was a FICTIONAL character creation (like Lazarus) of JOHN (Mark) son of MARY (and Simon "Peter" of Jerusalem) who was implicated in the other "Gospels" as being the mystery man carrying the 🏺of 💧to the 🏠 of the "upper room" where the disciples would eat the "Last Supper" with Jesus. Since ancient Greeks and Romans DIDN't drink their 🍷"straight" because it was too strong so they DILUTED it with 💧(thus the purpose of the 💧🏺s at the marriage feast in Cana), this would have been the implied association of JOHN (Mark) with JOHN the BAPTizer; a "NAZIRite" who DIDN'T drink 🍷NOR "strong [alcoholic] drink". The ONLY OTHER alcoholic drink they had back then was 🍺! Jesus DID but the IRONY (common characteristic of the "Gospel" stories) is that HE came from NAZAReth, the village of the NAZARIM/NAZARites/Consecrated Ones!!
I have long noticed that the "New Testament" authors LOVED irony. 😁
Isn't the whole "Jesus was a Nazirite and Nazareth is a modern mistranslation" theory mostly based on the idea that "Nazareth" and "Nazarene" sound the same as "Nazirite" in modern English, which is a very questionable, unscientific and criticizable theory?
Did you say Nazareth is in "what's today called the West Bank"? That's completely incorrect - Nazareth is in Israel, nowhere near the West Bank. I guess you meant to say it's the largest Arab city in the Galilee, which it is.
It is interesting how the sciences promote their assumptions that God 's word is not true. But Jesus WAS well-educated even at the age of 12 and well-learned in the Greek of the LXX. These teachers are the wicked who want to cut "assunder" the cords of love with which he first drew them. Worse, they rob our children.
So true. In my mind I believe that Jesus was born with the knowledge of the world in every language.
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I think that, at this time it was common to name a place after the community. In this case, the Nazarite, what means today something likeThe Devoted. Jesús lived in Nazareth, but was not from Nazareth and escaped yet with 14 years from there in order to learn and see the world.
So your story does not make really sense. He was not a poor boy. You don't work as an Essene in stone mines. You study with a teacher, especially due to the fact that the semitic root nzr means to protect, to watch and Jesús has been protected there until he grew up.
It may have changed into the later name Nazareth due to the former habitants with a nazar life, as the hebrew word nazar means to consecrate or to take a vow. Thats the vow we took or take today when following Jesús message. The aramaic writing and hebrew writing of Nazarite is also different according to the Aramaic and greek bible. It could have influenced the translations. It is still Jesús the Consecrated and who took a vote to praise God and work according gods will. Hence its the town of the consecrated. A town is not consecrated by itself, but the life/the people gave its name to the settlement. What it later become is clear. A town devoted to the consecrated son of men. Why should a child which was announced years before and for all were waiting for, be send to work in the stone mines? I am sorry, if I express, that it makes no sense at all.
Greetings! Why should this particular child (the Anointed One of GOD) work in stone mines? Isaiah 53 & Philippians 2 could answer this question.
So Saul characters was following earth elements refused after INSIDE revelation woke about Christ live IN awoke mind become MIND parable of dark sayings to flesh and blood search outside them self dung compared to woke Christ IN MAN riddles never seen by Saul or greatest John Baptist INSIDE them self you fail it also still outside secular dung.