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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- This week Moshe and Natasha recap their recent trip to Vegas, debate whether a Grateful Dead show is appropriate for a six year old, and more! Then they give advice to one caller whose dad is dating someone younger than her and react to a few secrets.
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My parents were split up before I was born so i never got to experience them having couples fights, thanks to the pod for filling that void
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😂😂😂😂
I hate seeing mommy and daddy fight
I just started watching but I think I found my favorite line that will not be topped: "What makes you think she would want to listen to a jam band? She likes Beyoncé!" lmao
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That’s also kinda sad. I love Beyoncé but cmon, she’s exactly at the age when taking someone to see a concert could make that their favorite band or fundamentally change their music taste. Things like that are important.
"All the greats. Bill Maher, John Coltrane, Megan Thee Stallion".
Moshe please let the kid be a kid. With Tash. Shes gonna grow up soon and can do all that extra stuff :)
Major kudos to Natasha for keeping her cool too during the argument
Goals
That’s that couples therapy 😂
Guests are great, but I LOVE it when it is just the two of you
Yes, Natasha, I agree with you about the show, I wouldn't like my child to go either (despite agreeing with Moche most of the time, I stick with you about this and Burning Man)
Love the podcast, love Moshe and Natasha but sometimes Moshe’s “I’m always the smartest person in the room” mentality is draining and you can see it on Natasha’s face. Someone who won’t let up until you’ve agreed with them or changed your viewpoint to match theirs is so annoying. Natasha doesn’t have to justify her feelings and 6 is young for any concert let alone a Grateful Dead concert. Moshe seems to believe every child should have the childhood he had like all of the influences he had as a child grew him into such a perfect adult.
I was taken to my first dead concert at 8, my sister and I did fall asleep and we had to leave early lol but we loved playing with the other kids there and it was like going to an amusement park. There are so many parents who go to those shows and have bubbles, stickers etc and honestly in many of those crowds regardless of venue people respect kids the most in personal interaction. The only drawback is seeing some crazies in passing but its not so bad. Still going to hippie shows with my dad 20 years later
As a former six year old girl, I would not want to be dragged to a Grateful Dead concert. But love you guys, love Natasha a little bit more - bye! 🪩💗✨
ditto
Same.
Just want to chime in and say my dad is a dead head and he would take us to shows from when we were newborns up until we were toddlers, and it was honestly fine! He stopped taking us when we got too old to get free admission.
Natasha is correct! A lesson learned. 6 yr olds don’t need to be anywhere near Vegas. Period!
That type of color green blazer looks really great on natasha! I love her outfits ❤❤❤ she is so pretty 🥰
idk but Natasha saying "low-fi as long as i can" seems pretty good. Kind of like you're only young once and she wants to preserve that limited time
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At 6 I was naturally overwhelmed by everything. My head would have imploded if I was brought to a concert like that at that age.
I can’t imagine bringing a six-year-old to a concert.
It just seems like Moshe wants their kid to be a teenager already
100% . Wants his daughter exposed to sex and drugs .
He wants his kid to grow up cool and trendy for sure
This is THEEEE one! Like why is he so much in a hurry for the girl to do adult things. Can she just be a little girl?? Whew! Natasha has some patience I aspire to
@@MrByrlNot cool
Moshe is going to have a brutal reality check if their daughter turns out to be a whiny teen who hates everything her parents do and thinks they’re totally cringe. 😅
As a Vegas local, I don’t recommend you drink tap water unless you filter it. We even get filtered water for our dogs because the tap water is bad for them.
I myself, wouldn’t take my 6 year old daughter to a Dead concert but that’s because I don’t think she would be able to appreciate it. But if it were me I would listen to Moshe’s reasoning about wanting to expose her to things and I would totally allow it. I’ve shown my kids things that were beyond their years just because it’s a good thing to know about this world. I love it that he’s trying to give her some culture. It’s great!
Moshe's advices are like an older and wiser brother giving you advice!
Wise? He delusional and wants to be the cool dad / friend instead of a responsible parent.
@@richcampbell6808 okay parents police Lolll
I thought Natasha was overreacting about the Dead show thing but then i watched videos from The Sphere...that woulda fucked me up when i was a kid...
My parents took me to my first concert when I was 4. It was Paul McCartney at Arrowhead Stadium in KCMO. We were on the field amongst thousands of people. To this day I can remember flashes of moments of this show. They’re some of my earliest memories, and I wouldn’t trade that for anything in or out of this world.
give me a break Paul McCartney at that age was very very tame Paul McCartney and wings all about love songs. Big difference and a much different time. People go to Vegas to get wasted .
@@richcampbell6808 my point is, moshe wants to provide experiences for their child that will be remembered for a life time. That child was in no danger at a dead and co show with their parents. I think Natasha was worried for the wrong reasons on this one.
@@hankhanewinkeliii5752 WRONG . Vegas is trash and no place for a child . Take her to Disneyland . He wants to be THE COOL DAD/ FRIEND instead of a responsible parent. Your point is Mute .
@@richcampbell6808 🤣 ok boomer. Have a good day.
That is an incredible first show! What a cool memory! 😮 🎉
Have always brought my kids to festivals during the day time to expose them to different artists and music and love how diverse they are now at 8&9 years old. Just got back from the Northlands festival and they had they best time, and made lots of friends. If I could afford to bring them to the Dead at the sphere I absolutely would
I went to Vegas for the first time when I was 35. It was so lame.
Moshe ability to gently tell the first caller to stop obsessing over her dads dating life without telling her to get a life is next level talent
He said way more than that but ok, you sound like the dad lol
@NavyParty yes you are obvious. He said much more but the sentiment was for her to stop obsessing over her dad's girlfriend to avoid ruining the connection btwn her and the dad. Since he's giving advice to a stranger, he's careful not to say anything triggering or that could be miscommunicated so he performs a sympathy of words incase she's the sensitive type that's looking for something to be offended over. Calling her a jealous brat would be in poor taste (: soft skills
I admitted to a friend the other day that I have a drinking problem. I'M OBSESSED WITH WATERLOO!!! LoL 😂
So, I want to do a quick analysis of this fight (and it is a fight-- just enough background to earn your attention: my parents never had a conversation like this. They just broke up but I watched it happen and now I'm a genius).
The players:
Moshe: The world hit me hard. I learned so much from terrible hardship.
Natasha: I've seen a lot. Most of my bad experiences seemed fine at first but I was mostly concerned with being the best version of fine with it that I could be.
The differences:
Moshe: Being dropped into hardship made me strong. Look at me! I'm better now than the seeker I was. I was lost. But hardship got me here. Wife. Child. Progress. The goal! There is no husband, no daddy, no alive! without struggle!
Natasha: I tried to make strong men happy. It felt like comfort when they took care of me. Me! Why me? Because I met their needs. Whatever the fuck they wanted, I made me disappear into them. That's how I made it through my struggle.
Then, I made a decision. I want a family. For real. Not a joke. I want a kid. That's the most important thing in the world to me. I will never let the world treat my kid like it went after me.
Moshe: I need to grow up. I can do this. Of course, I want a little me. I want to see myself in the yard looking to me for guidance. I am more capable of guidance than the average dad. I was dropped into hardship and I came out the other end (super duper hung up on family issues and my own semi-formed semi-adult ideas about what survival plus growth looks like). I've been to therapy (from a child's perspective onward). Have you?!
Natasha: I'm going to helicopter parent a little, I guess. Not in a bad way. I just want her to know that whatever life tries to do to her she always knows that I'll be here to answer her questions no matter what. She's safe and my experiences will never touch her.
Moshe: Then let her fall down next to the fuck tent. She'll stand up. I'll be there. Like I was there for me!
Natasha: I want to please you. It goes against my being to be in this horrible moment with the father of my child. But, no. She should learn from careful guidance. I walked a road to get here and she will not walk that same road. I won't let it happen.
Moshe: (sarcasm)
Natasha: (listening with a look that tells the story).
And scene.
Don't break up. And don't hang your version of what worked for you on your kid. And certainly not against your partner.
Probably don't take your kid to Burning Man. But take your kid camping. See if she falls in love with struggle. Most kids don't. But you can change that. Not with fuck tents or Mommy and Daddy fighting. Find out who she is before you fuck it all up over who you want her to be.
I know Moshe will hate this because he has a stronger voice about overcoming struggle. But this year's BM (tee hee) doesn't have to be the fight for life you're making it out to be. You've got a partner who desires safety for her child right now... Can you live in a world where she's ten before you bring her to BM? Twelve? Your partner doesn't want a dirt angel (I just assume that's a BM-ism). She'll be stronger filtered through the two of you versus being dragged back and forth.
End rant.
Edit: I wrote that in the first ten minutes of listening. I hit play all satisfied and then Moshe got worse. This is avoid-the-topic bad.
I don't think the Dead and Co shows are that wild anymore
Moshe was relentless, when he really disagreed with the immediate shutdown, "red line, no". I agree with Natasha on this one, but if a six year old was a fan of the music, then I would consider.
Natasha you do NOT hv to justify ur ability to KNOW your child need not be in certain spaces! Period!
Yeah communication is overrated! ESPECIALLY in a marriage! Read my mind or GTFO!
Grateful Dead argument: I love your enthusiasm, Moshe- but I agree with Natasha. 🤣 I could see bringing a child to a Rainbow Gathering before bringing her to a Grateful Dead concert tbh.
I think Natasha is thinking Dead and Co. shows are like the Grateful Dead shows in the 80s and 90s… it’s mostly older folks with spatterings of younger people and depending on the venue they can be very tame
Yes LMAO...bunch of old geezers on mushrooms if not sober
Actually you're wrong I was there and there's a lot of hipsters and young people trying to be cool doing acid Molly and a lot of drugs .
@@richcampbell6808 gotcha. The few Dead and Co. shows I went to seemed like the hardest drugs that were being done were maybe pepto bismol and viagra
I think people get caught up with the name... The Grateful Dead. It's not a bad show to take kids to. It's actually really fun! ✌🏼❤️✨
Drink more sweetheart
The Dead Show was probably the most wholesome function in Vegas that night. The sphere graphics alone would be pretty cool for a kid to watch. First time I've sided with Moshe ;)
Grateful Dead have been playing different shows since they started playing live back in like...'65?
I have the exact same feelings as Moshe regarding Vegas, I can't help it lol
The only place for a kid in Las Vegas is Circus Circus and Excalibur Hotel.
I am with Moshe! The Sphere is not Burning Man. It is a very new, secured venue with constant surveillance and is within a city, not in the desert. I wish my dad would have taken me on adventures like this when I was young. What a lucky kid! Don’t hold them back Natasha!
but the caller saying the sphere is over-stimulating for a 6-year-old is also a good point. They both have good points.
Smoke more
@@richcampbell6808 thanks Rich! I appreciate the comment.
@@80smodel63 thank you for the input!
I love when they have real arguments like this because it makes it so real and people relate differently to each person……….. but Natasha has a point, and yeah it’s fear based, a 6 year old at show like that seems inappropriate
He’s gaslighting tbh
Be VERY CAREFUL about what you’re doing at self checkout!! I just spent the last six months in court because I was discounting items at self check out. And this was all food items. I had to do 20 hours of community service. And trying to get someone to accept me to volunteer for 20 hours was a nightmare. Once you tell them that you have a theft charge they don’t want to let you volunteer for their organization. Now I have this charge on my record forever and it’s hard to get a job. And I wasn’t stealing for the thrill of it, I literally could not afford food at the time. And I paid for everything in my basket. I just rang up red grapes as bananas because they were cheaper that kind of thing.
LOL omg... i live in vegas & used to work at cosmopolitan, there's a cocktail waitress who resembles halle berry😂
The caller needs to give her dad a break. It's not like he groomed his gf or went on a dating app specifically looking for a "sugar baby". She's an adult and it sounds like they met in an organic way. Meanwhile the pickings are probably slim when you're an older musician. Also, she mentioned she's put off by the thought of his big body on a younger woman, but who enjoys the visual of their parent being physically intimate? And what does his body being big have anything to do with it?
Waterloo Summer Berry is where it’s at!
Moshe will not lose an argument sometimes
I'm not always on Moshe's side but Natasha couldn't be more wrong about The Grateful Dead LOL
Looks like you're on drugs and kinda a dirt ball .
Why
Having to parent your parent is sooo hard! 😖 it was really helpful to hear the first callers experience and the advice given to them 🫶
My husbands parents took him to a Grateful Dead concert in the 90s when he was 4 and his mother is Mormon lol
Just an FYI to Natasha - nicotine is highly addictive regardless of it being vape, pouches, gum, etc!
I would never take my 6 year old to a John Mayer show tbh
I'm with you Natasha! ❤ You're using your mom intuition and that's great!
There are a lot of stores where you can scan items to find the price. So it’s really not that conspicuous.
Lol I went to numerous Dead shows as a baby, my first concert was the Dead at age 1.
Much different time.
The early 90s? I guess lol
From a pschychological perspective, radical acceptance of the pervy father is the way forward. This means accepting he might not change, is very insecure, making wrong decisions and nothing can be done about it, and that anger only hurts yourself. HOWEVER the AA stuff is for alcoholics who might have hurt people and are battling addiction. Not a general form of recovery. It would be totally inappropriate for the daughter to apologize for her correct feelings of anger, disgust and trying to have reasoned with the father initially. She is feeling the disgust of borderline incest which is natural. No one wants to feel like she is so close to what her parent desires sexually. Strong boundaries are needed, but in my experience the father will see the boundaries as judgment and if it continues the relationship will slowly deteriorate... And maybe end. For a man that age to date someone that young is borderline abusive especially when thinking young people don't reach brain maturity until 25. There is an unhealthy power dynamic for sure and even though we can love a parent, seeing them behave so unethically is totally heartbreaking and it takes time to process the feelings of loss and mourning, and sometimes letting go forever.
it’s the bad guys in the sci fi film who have a Sphere
also Moshe is wrong for fighting about a non-issue
Natasha is entitled to her feelings and doesn’t need to justify them rationally duh
more like Endless Bickering Podcast wow
1:02:45 yes
Love moshe but he’s wrong about the six year old at the dead show
Randy Travis is still alive BTW
Moshe, quit badgering Natasha because she doesn’t want you to take baby adolf to see GD. It makes your wife uncomfortable and that’s all the answer you need. Plus, GD is terrible
Moshe, what you start describing at 42:44 is called Radical Acceptance. And I 100% agree with you that this is what she needs to do in order to continue having a healthy relationship with her dad. She needs to accept this gross attribute of his for what it is and move on. It’s an incredibly hard thing to do but it will set her free in the end.
As a mom to a 7yr old daughter, I also don’t believe concerts (any kind) are an appropriate environment for kids.
6 years is way too young Moshe for a rock concert. Natasha is right.
Sorry tash I agree w mosh on this one
also, there were kids at the sphere! Deadheads always bring kids
Remember when they used to start the episode with their most recent fight? I'm really into this new format where they have an argument on the episode. The levels of disdain expressed by each is kinda sad.
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All my hippie friends bring their kids to concerts and I fucking hate it. As a concert goer I am very irked when I see kids at shows.
A jam band would've probably bored the kid to sleep but The Sphere is pretty intense. So is Vegas. I'm with Natasha there. And yes to tap water with a filter because plastic bottles are helping to annihilate our oceans. Point to Moshe.
Why not let your kid be innocent for as long as possible...? They will be a teen before you know and you can scar them then.
most actual argument of the podcast?
I think Moshe is missing the distinction between vice and gratuity/excess. Vice is usually lifeless, tedious, and banal. Driven by a lack of something. Whereas excess is driven by pleasure, or doing something for its own sake, for true fun which doesn't require the plastic simulacrum of Vegas.
To the guy stealing at self checkout. Target has a special system connected to those cameras and AI. They track your stealing until you reach $2000 and then they arrest and charge you. Walmart does the same now. They've been using this system for over 3yrs. Other stores will follow. I recommend breaking your compulsion slowly. Like Moshe said.. if you have to.. steal the old fashion way. Stick a fucking chapstick in your pocket if you need that fucking hit.
Natasha, you’re dead wrong about the dead ;) but like actually. That’d be a magical experience for a kid.
I usually agree with Moshe but for bringing a 6 year old to a Greatful Dead show? Hellll no. If I was at a show I don’t want to look over and see a 6 year old. Let her be a kid and do kid things. I went to my first concert (U2 at a football field in nosebleed seats) when I was 12 and even that felt a little intense for me. I think kids shouldn’t go to general concerts until at least 12 or 13. It’s just too much and the kid doesn’t give a shit about going to a concert younger than that anyways.
She doesn’t have to have your childhood though.
Sorry, Moshe. I’m with Natasha on this one.
i usually agree w mosh on most things but he's outta pocket dying on the greatful dead hill lmaoo like whattt? i went to see jewel when i was in 5th grade w my dad and some girl behind us kept yelling "penis!!!" and i was so embarrassed. and that was jewel in like '98. can't even imagine a dead show, IN VEGAS, in 2024... wayyy too much for a 6yo.
You’re not crazy, Natasha. Moshe is totally wrong on this. And based on the comments, that’s the consensus.
No concert is a place for a 6 year old. Maybe at a festival, but that highly depends on the festival and the location. No concerts under 14 years IMO. No concerts under 16 without parents.
which musicians daughter is that girl
Probably just some guy in a bar band.
NO FING WAY should you take a 6 year old to The grateful dead concert . Lots of drugs and it's an adult concert. Burning man? No . 👎 A child should be innocent and not exposed to drugs and sex . He's delusional.
dead head here the grateful dead and jam bands do that to all of us heads by never playing the same sets twice so you go to multiple nights its not just cause they're in Vegas the dead did this before ticket gouging. The sphere tickets are overpriced but that's what the Dead has always done never play the same set twice!
Substitute mom
I would be mad of i was there and i saw a little girl. Also, most people in vegas dont drink the tap water
Being over weight, or under weight, is first and foremost a health issue. You should learn your kids to eat and exercise right. It's literally a life and death thing.
Ugh Moshe
There’s no world in which a 6 year old should go to a Grateful Dead concert at the sphere in Las Vegas.
I don’t know your kid but if seeing a butt at the pool was that confusing to her, going to that concert…I mean…clearly. Why even engage in the argument? #TeamNatasha
Love Moshe, but Natasha is 100% right
It’s totally not an appropriate environment for a child wtf
Judy Blume has a LOT of fat shaming shit in her books - when I was a kid in the 80’s I read one of her books and a girl was described as being proud of her curvy body and I looked down and thought oh cool I have that too! And then the character was called “thunder thighs” & that was the first time I got bummed about my body so thanks for nothing Judy Blume.
Moshe should have his parental license taken off him....he is very questionable.
"a full luxor" is the new 💩
So the kid’s name starts with an F.
I agree with Natasha about The Gratwful Dead concert. Wouldn’t want my kid in a crowd where there’d be more weed smoke than oxygen
Vegas tap water is pretty gross 🤢
0:15.....'.Deus '...😁..
What a cool life your daughter could live! A Dead and Co show at the age of 6? I would give a lot to have a cool dad to take me to shows and show me the world under their wing. Hippies are pretty friendly and loving people if you can look past your judgment.
Only do acid around things you enjoy. Never around things you don't enjoy. Duh
Doing acid in Vegas sounds like a nightmare.
The dad who dates 20 year olds is gross. I'm sorry, but anyone over 30 who wants to date women under 30 gross me out and are probably not that impressive themselves. If they can't land a woman their own age, maybe they need to work on themselves before dating.
To get back at him, she should date a woman who its older than her dad.
Moshe you’re being crazy, leave your kids at home! People DO act erratic on droogs. As a festi goer. Leave your kids home until they are old enough to understand people who are not sober
Would have loved to go to a grateful dead concert at 6! Love Tash, but I'm team Mosh on this one.
Moshe, NOBODY wants your 6 year old at their concert. Your 6 year old would be bored, freaked out by the hippies and loud music and want to go home. So you've just wasted money and are adding a little chip of resentment towards your kid for ruining your fun time. It's an adult event. I know you felt like it made you cooler than everyone else, but consider other people who are now having a worse time at their adult concert because you brought your tiny child so you could feel cool. I'm with Natasha, you came in hot correcting her pronunciations and we're operating in FULL ego mode this whole intro fight. Just pure passive aggression and you are clearly very mad at her about you not getting to feel like the cool dad (which would have backfired the second your kid starts screaming and crying).
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Finally. Too much arguing. I'm at saturation point.
The way Moshe argues is so gross. He tries to tightly control the goal posts of the debate then switches them when he's losing. Manipulative.
it’s soo ego driven and manipulative and i’m usually on his side but the way he argues w the woman he loves makes me feel
bad for his daughter
He definitely more tightly tries to control the parameters of a conversation (and that does help keep things on track when it's not done poorly), but they both do it to some extent, and they both definitely frequently switch topics when losing, Natasha probably more. Moshe just talks way more and faster and so it's more noticeable for him lol
You do know it’s tongue in cheek right? This is not at all how they would actually argue off of the podcast. Thought that was pretty obvious…
Agreed, I personally could never be partnered with someone who spoke to me like that. My own “red line” I guess, lol.
I think he's always been pretty honest and rational (except the Christmas tree thing). Natasha is overly anxious and always has the worst case scenario in mind.
My parents took me to their discotheque/club as a baby-toddler and I have really great memories. Being an overprotective parent just makes the child fearful and restricted
Moshe is so annoying at the start of this episode. Please put a stop to the weaponized incompetence bit, in general. I would HATE to turn around and see a 6 year-old at a Grateful Dead show. Let it be a place for adults to get loose, like Natasha correctly assumes… I would start being so unpleasantly conscious of my behavior if I knew a little sponge brain was standing right there at one of these things.
tash, stand up! I want to see what you're wearing on the bottom! ...but even if you don't, I just need to give you props on your legs because they're always so stunning. ...sorry Moshe-just in case you're unaware, a ton of people have a crush on your wife. that might be hard to process but that's what you get when you marry a fucking smoke show who also happens to be hilarious.
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Podcasts are old. Dying?