@1wollf74....first of all usc was kept out of the bcs in 2003 even though oklahoma lost it's conference championship game, would have beaten lsu, as far as auburn usc played auburn home and home the 2 years before 2004....and beat them both times....auburn didn't want more of that....
You forget that the Big 10 been around since 1896 the SEC was established in 1933. So even with almost 40 year head start the SEC has more championships Gump
@arronfrazier7873 ND had their chance to join the Big10, they snubed their nose at them even though the Big10 was providing them with half their schedual. They can piss off as far as I'm concerned.
TJ ~ simply no. The B1G does not need to offer a "sweetheart" deal to Notre Dame. The B1G per institution share is already more than Notre Dame gets from both their TV contract and the 20 million from the CFP this year according to the people who cover ND on a daily and weekly basis. ND decision on a conference is not based on just dollars alone.
@@brendancordial3483 LOL Notre Dame is bargin shopping at a garage sale for the B1G. Notre Dame is a "broke ass school" compared to what Northwestern and Rutgers get from the B1G TV deal.
People keep saying “the B1G has won the last 2”, without any awareness that the SEC won 4 of the last 6 and 12 of the last 18. Recency bias is the only thing feeding these horrible hot takes.
If espn can sway Clemson, FSU, North Carolina and Virginia to join the SEC, then they will not extend the Grant of Rights and Network deal with the ACC. If word gets back to Disney that Clemson, FSU Miami and Georgia Tech would go to the Big 10, then espn will do whatever they can to lock the current ACC teams into a long term contract.
From what I heard, the sec doesn't want anything to do with state they already have schools in. And fsu did not get an offer to join the sec, and GT left the sec back in 64 and has got no offer to rejoin.
I am an OSU/B1G homer, but the SEC is not dead. There will always be ebbs and flows, let’s not forget we were 1 possession and a hurt QB away from an all SEC final this year, and an OT goal line stand and 1 possession game last year from an all SEC final. (I know, technically Texas was still a Big 12 team)
I agree - but it might be the only thing to get them in and I think you'd adjust it to decrease over time. (Since they'd be bringing in NBC more fully.)
We are still looking at these 2 conferences someday breaking away and doing their own thing. I think the last few weeks has only reinforced that the largest programs, most inside the P2, want to move towards independence from the NCAA. ND will not join a conference unless it has no other choice. SEC doesn't want to see them in BIG. So they will allow for a scheduling alliance that allows ND to join as an independent, as long ND agrees the schedule BIG/SEC 8-10 games each.
@@alexnowicki286 yea….thats what I said. But the SEC doesn’t want them in the BIG. So the SEC might allow them to continue as an independent as long as the SEC get some scheduling benefits. SEC does want to see ND visit Athens, The Swamp, or Red Stick.
because when the P2 finish their realignment. They may leave the NCAA and start their own league and playoff. It is believed all top tier schools will be affiliated with one of these conferences. ND will want to go with them and not left behind playing UCF and Toledo.
On Saturday, Notre Dame and Comcast NBCUniversal announced a new TV deal running through 2029. Notre Dame is expected to receive around $50 million per year from NBC, in addition to the $17 million it receives from the ACC. Notre Dame's total compensation is slightly less than what members of the Big Ten would receive.Nov 19, 2023
@@tyeash7822You forgot the $10M a year from Under Armour & getting to keep 100% any post-season earnings. ND football program earned right at $100M for the 2024 season. Why on earth does this Florida St. fanboy TH-camr think ND would want to join the downtrodden Big 12? Makes zero sense.
ND adds nothing of value for the member schools in the BIG, now FSU,UM and Clemson at least add recruiting opportunities as well as additional market coverage. So there is value for both the BIG conference and the member schools.
It's already in the works. It is a NFL model that everyone in the rest of college football fears. They will break away and grab 6 more high potential teams. To go to a 40 team league. Everyone on the message boards will say no. Yet I heard about conference realignment years ago and look where we are now. I get people don't want their schools left behind. Billionaires are ruining the game we love. Just like they're ruining our country.
TJ, I don't think it matters anymore. They are negotiating and coordinating with each other. I think both conferences will continue with realignment. between moves and counter-moves. In the end, FSU, Clemson, Stanford, UNC, UVA, Kansas, Colorado, and Arizona will elevate. I'm not as sold on Miami. I think these conferences will take a holistic approach. Miami would immediately be the smallest school in either conference, Vandy included. They play in a rented stadium an hour from campus. They have major attendance problems. They would have to make major investments to get into BIG. That's why I picked Stanford. I think it would move the needle with ND and would bring more value.
@@adamb6370 UCLA also plays in a stadium far from campus with attendance issues but they made it. And Colorado, Arizona, UNC, and Kansas are definitely behind Miami. You’re also forgetting about TV deals and Miami has a large TV audience. They get good viewership and the South Florida area has a lot of people
@ well yea but the only reason UCLA was included was to prevent issues getting USC. UCLA has done nothing but whine about their travel schedule easy for the past month. Miami doesn’t bring anything in viewership that Florida db FSU don’t already own. I’m not saying Miami isn’t added to BIG (not an SEC candidate) Especially if FSU ends up SEC bound. But it’s a tougher case than a Stanford and they will have to make guarantees to build a stadium near Coral Gables and align their facilities and programs more like a BIG school.
@ they could if BIG continues to have scheduling issues with the schools out west. They may need 2 more schools out there. Listen to the UCLA coaches interview last week.
So your thought process is that the Big Ten would give ND more than any of the other Big ten schools, and they wouldn't lose their minds over that, AND FSU, Miami and Clemson would all say "yeah, we wanna join the Big Ten and get less than ND as well". That's the most ridiculous, idiotic thing I think I've ever heard. The Big Ten would be more likely to take Syracuse, instead of ND than they would be in paying ND more than any other school. ND is not the brand they once were. No matter what deal they strike with NBC for rights, they're not the pull they used to be. This isn't back when there's 3 tv stations, so you were watching ND football or nothing at all. This is now a time when 90% of the eyes are on the bigger games on rather than ND versus nobody.
The big 10 is 5 to 6 teams deep... while the sec is 11 to 12 teams deep.. is why it is so much easier to get to the playoffs.. and bowl games mean zero.. with most big teams have a lot of players sit out
@SteveAllen-x2m Not over Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M. Ohio State was #11 in NIL spending. Everyone is just gaslighting the Buckeyes to diminish their nc.
Honestly I live 8 miles from nd in Niles MI and would not mind to see us play our traditional rivals again every year. Michigan Michigan state and Purdue traditional rivals mean more than any random acc team we play anymore. No disrespect to acc
The cream at the top in the Big 10 is every bit as good as the SEC. In football, the problem that the Big 10 needs to address is the detritus at the bottom. The SEC has one perennial cellar dweller (Vandy). The Big 10 has Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers, Illinois, and Indiana. Yes a couple of those teams had good years last year (Vandy, Illinois, and Indiana), but those are blips on the radar in a long history of bad football. The Big 10 doesn't need top tier teams as bad as it needs to add solid programs and build up their bottom tier teams.
One thing wont change. Notre dame will continue to schedule army and navy and a few more cupcakes just stay away from northern Illinois. Maybe lose one or two games and still make the playoff every year. What a recruiting advantage.
The Big Ten absolutely will not be offering Notre Dame more money than other members to get them to join. Notre Dame without the Big Ten makes so much less money per year that even making the national championship every season would not have them catch up to the base payout Big Ten teams get before any bowls or playoff games are considered. Notre Dame should be begging to come to the Big Ten, which now houses all of their biggest rivalries including with USC. Notre Dame has two choices, and those are to be prideful and keep making less TV money than Northwestern, or join the Big Ten as an equal member. If anyone in the Big Ten is getting special treatment it's the two teams who produce the most watched regular season game of every season, not Notre Dame.
I don't know if things are really moving in this direction, but it's a bad idea. For the playoff system to work, there has to be some distribution of top teams in the various buckets, be they conferences or indys. The Big 10 and SEC have seriously damaged this by drawing the best Big 12 and Pac 10 teams into their conferences. It's harder to tell, now, which SEC and Big 10 teams are best, because they beat up on each other, and because with 8 conference games, some teams end up with much easier schedules. Notre Dame joining either of the superconferences would be terrible. The only choices that help college football would be to join one of the other conferences or stay independent. I say this as a huge OSU fan, understanding the Big 10 could be dominant with ND as a member, but the sport would be worse.
IDK how the SEC folks felt about their expansion, but generally speaking most B1G folks seemed to have LOVED PAC-4 coming over. It was just such a fun and exciting year for B1G. IDK how it would go with more expansion. I feel like it could be even more fun...but honestly little afraid to ruin the good times we had in '24. My understanding is B1G wants NC and UVA, but it would be crazy to pick up UVA, NC, Clemson, FSU and Miami...that would put B1G in the driver seat. What is Texas Tech's AAU status?
SEC has also lost the post season game location advantage, those CFP games north of the Mason Dixon line will be difficult to win in December, especially those in BIG country where the average temp will be around 10-30 degrees with a high chance of freezing rain or snow.
@ so 1 team versus an entire conference (except USC/UCLA). I guarantee coaching staffs in the SEC aren’t preparing for snow games the same way coaching staffs in the BIG are. It’s not the same, especially considering the majority of the SEC’s best programs are all located in the Deep South.
As a Miami fan, I don’t know how I feel about joining the Big Ten. It would be nice I guess, but competition would be much harder, and there would then be 22 teams in the conference assuming they don’t kick the scrubs out. I would love to play Nebraska and Notre Dame more though.
It's not about how anyone "feels"... it's about survival...MONEY. Trust me, IF Miami had the opportunity to join the BIG10... there would be absolutely NO hesitation, they would jump quicker than you could bat an eye!
@@Huntmaster1 Nevertheless, UT has gotten farther than UGA in the CFP the past two years. Next year UT brings in Arch Manning and returns the bulk of their team. I'm not a fan of either team, but from the outside looking in, UT seems to be the better program going forward.
Stop being so shortsighted. Austin Texas is one of two top 20 US cities with a major college team but no big 3 professional sports teams to compete with. The other? Columbus. San Jose doesn't have a major college football team.
While Sark has them on the right track, they ain't there. Just because you have the most money does not mean you will do great on the field. Ask Jumbo how that worked out for him and A&M.
HELL NO, no unbalanced deals. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard (will other than the nonsense that comes out of Sankey, Saban and Finebaum) Also zero chance B1G wants Clemson.
This would be an awesome conference with these additions! SEC would be in trouble. Already are now that daddy Saban is gone their new member Texas gave them a little dignity this year 😂
Big ten schools have to be aau certification. Not a requirement but recommended. Nebraska was aau but lost it and there is a lot of pressure to get them back. 6 new schools were invited this year. Take a look who they are
Right now, the ACC has first dips on Notre Dame, should they choose to join a Conference. So, the Big 10 or Big XII would have to make some sort of monetary contribution to the ACC in order to land the Irish, unless the ACC folds altogether.
The B1G can force ND into the B1G by signing the SEC scheduling agreement. That will trigger new TV revenue in the short and long term that ND can't match. Fewer teams will want to schedule ND in the future if SEC is playing 9 conference games and the B1G. At some point NBC will pressure ND to stop trying to double-dip. The B1G/SEC can also get more leverage by reducing the number of wildcard spots in the playoffs through autobids for conference participants.
agreed, and during the next round of realignment, there wont be many large schools left not in the P2. ND wont like that will fear not be able to get on those schedules. They will look for some type of scheduling agreement for themselves.
@@adamb6370 Yep. I think the SEC is done protecting them when they reach the natty when the SEC feels like they should've had one or two more teams in the playoffs. The ND carve-out is hurting the SEC more than it hurt the B1G. LOL
If FBS college football is going to further subdivide and be peeled off from the NCAA, then I would rather this happen BEFORE the B1G considers adding to its membership.
Dude I get what you're saying in this new age of mega conferences but.. I'm a cfb traditionalist. There has already been way too much damage done conference wise. Yes led by the SEC, but I'm just not ready to go all in on the Dark Side. In doing so destroy any assemblance of what cfb was. Your conference (ACC) is a good conference, put 2 teams in. Weaker yes but growing big time. We need the ACC to be strong and you're almost there. Focus on your own and Don't give up!
Looks like FSU and Miami go to B1G. NC, NC State, Clemson to SEC. Memphis, Tulane, South FL replace them in ACC. I just don't see Cal and Stanford staying in ACC if that happens. Maybe they go back to the PAC, if they get their shit together. Maybe MW. Maybe B1G takes both them now, if ND shuns them again. Greater SF media market is #10 in the country. Nearby Sacramento is #12. If ND finally does go to the B1G, (because their ratings have been really shitty playing ACC teams, and will be worse if the good ACC schools leave) Standford might go with ND to the B1G while Cal goes somewhere else. I am talking about football. It's now all about money, and what generates money, is the size of your media market because ESPN, Fox, ABC, NBC, and CBS are paying the bills now, and will dictate heavily, who plays where. ACC media deal is up with ESPN and currently under negotiations this week! The title of your video is misleading. The B1G and SEC are not working against each other at all. They are meeting next month together to discuss interconference games and standardize their schedules!
NBC put a bonus for Notre Dame. Every team would receive $115mil, per rumors. Notre Dame would make more getting last place in the BigTen vs making the National Championship. But would ND keep the donors?
Teams leaving the ACC sounds like South Park's underwear gnomes: 1. Challenge GOR 2. ????? 3. Profits The discussions have to brush over how they break the exit fee, if there was a likely way out they would have taken it already. The ACC teams departure will be known ahead of the ACC broadcast contract's expiration, they will want a new conference lined up with full revenue sharing when the SEC and B1G negotiate their contracts. *B1G has already stated they want to negotiate before other conferences.* B1G going before the B12 and SEC would be too short an extension (3 years) for the increase the B1G will be seeking. The last B1G contract was negotiated before USC-UCLA added, inked just after their addition. It didn't include additions of Oregon and Washington. The B1G will be seeking a huge increase. *The B1G will sign a 5 year contract in 2029* to go ahead of the ACC. ESPN will tie the B12 then SEC into long term contracts, effectively giving them control of SEC/B12 expansion. ESPN won't finance B12 expansion, and the B12 members won't take the shared revenue cut to finance on their own. *ESPN will repeat their past negotiation tactics with the SEC:* Sign a long contract that will give the SEC a lot of money up front, but by the time it expires will be undervalued, essentially giving the SEC their money up front. The SEC will agree to appease their fans, kicking the can down the road for a future commissioner to explain why they are falling behind. *Delany noted Nebraska would have been admitted without AAU affiliation,* it was known Nebraska was going to get booted from the AAU when they were added. It wasn't really a requirement then, it isn't now, it is what the chancellors/presidents cited as an example to press that they didn't want some concern for academics, no football factories. *The departing ACC teams will be* FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC, and maybe VT. The contracts lean too heavily towards FB for Duke to be a candidate. The rest of the ACC will be a hoops conference that plays very good FB, but not at the caliber of B1G/SEC, a step behind the B12, far ahead of the G6.
Clemson to the B1G is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. They just don't belong. It's not a good academic or cultural fit. If 2 teams are added, UM and FSU make the most sense
The B1G only has one independent, Northwestern. Unclear whether they would want a second. Other big issue. Miami just stole a player from Wisconsin and the B1G conference sent a nasty letter to Miami. The Hurricanes may have poisoned the well. Maybe Miami to Big 12,
You straight out lied! Miami didn't anybody! Xavier Lucas wanted to transfer from Wisconsin. He is from South Florida and his father is sick! Per the rules, Wisconsin had 48 hours to put his name in the portal per the rules. Wisconsin refused to do this! Miami isn't going to the Big 12!
@@arronfrazier7873 He had a two year contract with Wisconsin. If he had bad year, Wisconsin had to still give him NIL next year. As a lawyer, that is pretty straight forward. I expect Wisconsin to sue Miami for interference with contractual relationships. It really is not legally complicated. Do NIL deals mean anything? What if a kid had a great first four games (and not lose eligibility for the season) and withdrew from the school since someone else whispered big money in his ear for the following season. I assume that is also fine with you. In any event, watch and see if there is any interest in Miami by the B1G. The SEC has never had an interest. This may boomerang big time for the Hurricanes.
@@observer46-vh5bm Its clear, you don't everything! Currently, its 3:12 est here and 1/28/2025! He signed a NIL deal in 12/04/24! He received no money! A few days later, he wanted to transfer! NIL deals aren't binding! I know, your not talking about the name and likeness deal, that isn't even a law yet! That is an illegal deal!
It totally makes since as far as recruiting as well. It not only opens up a major pipeline into the Midwest, but in places like California as well. Ohio State , Notre Dame both have that Nation Wide Brand . They are able to recruit All over. Ohio State especially. They go into places like Texas and Florida , and steal 5 star recruits on a regular basis. Let alone , they get the cream of the Crop in Ohio. But opening that door to a Florida St. and Miami, Clemson is huge. FSU and MU can’t just survive on Florida Talent as they once did. Everyone from the SEC , and the Ohio States of the world have their hands in the State of Florida. They need to expand their pipelines. BIG Ten will do that. From Coast to coast , now that The PAC 12 big Dogs are in the Big 10 as well.
Correction! Miami and FSU can survive on Florida talent! The Big 3 of Florida of Miami, UF and FSU get the majority of their roster and players from Florida! Miami won the state first national title in football under HC Howard Schnellenurger. Back ground on Howard before being hired at Miami in 1979! He was coaching with the Miami Dolphins 7 of the 10 years of the 1970's! It was his time in Florida in the NFL, he saw so many Florida born players in the NFL! The problem was they weren't going to Miami, FSU and UF! They were leaving Florida to go to college! He got hired at Miami and his was to change recruiting in the State of Florida specifically for Miami in South Florida! Miami national title 1983 team had a roster make up of high 50% to low 60% Florida born players. The rest of the roster was from out of the state Florida. Every national title which is 10 in total by Miami, FSU and UF 87 to 2013, their rosters were 70% or higher Florida HS players and the rest out of state! That formula still works! The state of Florida is the 3rd largest state of 23 million and it grows daily! Oh by Ohio State and Notre Dame aren't the only ones with a nation brand! Miami has national brand! That 1983 national title team says so! 3 of Miami national titles were won by QB's from California!
@ That was then, and this is now. In today’s CFB world, the vast majority of Florida’s Blue Chip players are scattered out on Bama , UGA , rosters , and all throughout the SEC and elsewhere. Do you realize that during Clemson’s stent , not too long ago, Dabo Sweeney had more 4 and 5 *from here in Florida on his rosters than the Big 3 combined? Then take into consideration others like the Bosa Brothers elect Ohio State. I understand “ Back in the Day.” But those days are gone. The NFL is the proves this point. Think of when UM and FSU and even UF vs FSU was basically to decide who’d go to the Natty. Those programs are no longer stocking the NFL with Florida Talent any longer. Sure there are a hell of a lot of Florida Boys in the NFL. But the vast majority of them that are at least making a name for themselves , played CFB out of state. “ Back in the day” , I remember UM teams from Jimmy Johnson , Butch Davis, Larry Coker , with Rosters full of Florida boys that became future All Pros, and HOF players. Many in the same lineups. But when is the last time the Canes had that recruiting edge. 02, 03 when OSU got them in the Championship? Bobby Bowden at the same time putting rosters together full of Florida Boys that would go on to winning Championships and dominating in the NFL. Florida under Spurrier doing the same, with oftentimes 3rd pick of the litter of a loaded Florida Boy Roster. No one has done that “ Consistently “ though since Urban Meyer at UF though. And even he had to battle with Alabama, Auburn, LSU , OSU , Texas, UGA, etc. to get his hands on Florida Blue Chippers. But he was smart enough to span out his recruiting to places like Texas, Ohio, Georgia to fill the gaps .
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But the data shows the largest concentration of CFB fans are in the south. The shows as OSU/ND viewers numbers were not good. Thats another why BIG might target southern schools.
As a Michigan alum and a graduate of a catholic primary school- I dont want Notre Dame in the BIG. I dont like mixing religion and education/sports/politics. I dont want BYU in either.
@@scottlaux6934 How is it being a bigot and rejecting people because they have a belief system? A Michigan man, with values just like Connor Stallions 🤣 smh
Miami will not join a Big Two conference until they have an on-campus stadium that they can regularly fill. Pro Player half empty, even when the Canes are good, is not a viable TV product for the B1G brand. The SEC might make Miami work, since it's a great road trip for the visiting fans. That might fill Pro Player sufficiently, most of the time.
What's up I agree to a point with you The B1G is on top in football 🏈 right now thats about it but Look at the difference in scheduling in the SEC & the B1G every SEC team from top to bottom is good theys 2-4 Teams in the B1G that is good the rest of them are not thats the difference if the B1G played the same level of competition as the SEC all season beating up on each other they would go down quick 💯 !
For sure. If they add these four, it'd increase the parity in the B1G like SEC. But it'd also add some pretty major brands. Would be fun to see. Thanks for the comment.
@@EricBJones B1G went 5-1 against the SEC in the postseason with a ranked Mizzou barely clipping unranked Iowa by 3. USC beat LSU during the regular season. You need to reassess your SEC bias.
@DavidKreitzer-ng2fe Yeah the B1G did because they's 2-4 good B1G teams that's it they play each other sometimes but most of the B1G teams have 1 or 2 Tough games during the regular season 💯 The SEC teams are all pretty good and can beat any other team any given Saturday 💯 so in the SEC it's a tough game every Saturday unlike the B1G like I said so hell the B1G should've been 5-1 against the SEC in the post season when they don't have to play but 1-2 tough games In the regular Season and the SEC teams has to give it all they have every Saturday of the season 💯 so SEC bias or not in the SEC It Just Means More because it's tougher competition than the B1G 💯!!!!!! And it ain't like the B1G is dominating every sport because they are not yeah they have 🏈 the last 2 seasons and won the Championship but it's gonna change guarantee cause the B1G has 2 National Championships outta the last 20 or 21 the rest the SEC has won 💯!!! And the SEC is dominating 🏀 right now as well
Screw ND. Give them an ultimatum. Join a conference or no invitation. Committee should demand that teams must be conference member for inclusion. What damn group needs prima Donna’s dictating the rules.
Why would ND join either conference… any conference… when they have total control over their schedule? If they joined B1G or SEC, they’d lose that control and play either conference’s top tier teams on a regular basis… DURING the season vs. in the playoffs?
ND football is only ND sport that’s independent. ND hockey is in big 10. ND other sports is in ACC. So ND gets money for hockey from big10 and ACC for other sports and that’s on top of the independent football tv deal. ND gets more money being the way they are than if they joined a conference. They will stay independent with football that’s not gonna change.
Big10 blackballed nd for decades since it was a catholic university. As late as Bo shembechler, Michigan repeatedly expressed disdain for nd. Why did nd choose acc for other sports?
It's all about the $$$ now. There simply is more money up North than down South. Like MLB, where the Yankees have dominated most of my life. Follow the money trail and you will find the best teams in CFB's future. Too bad for the little guys who will not ever have a chance again.
Oooooo money not to sure about that OSU release there financial statement 37 million deficit in there athletic dept. Is that what it takes to win national championship 🤔
You make the bold statement that the Big Ten is on the ascendancy and the SEC is under decline and you give no support for your assertion. You say it’s not because of the recent bowl games but then all you talk about is the recent bowl games. The SEC just added Texas and OU. That tops the Big Ten additions. The SEC would never take FSU nor Clemson so both of those could go to the Big Ten. But the SEC would take University of North Carolina. So there’s no way the big 10 could get them.
As a Michigan grad and fan, I'm Michigan first. Big 10.....eh. The loser I'm rooting to lose even more is groomer Disney/ESPN. And the key to ND is academics. Right now they have an unwarranted AAU designation; unwarranted because they do squat for research. It should be pulled. They pulled it from Nebraska just because their medical school was on a different campus. ND doesn't even have a medical school.
Unfortunately unless the business case is there the big 10 won’t add them Much rather have fsu and Miami than Rutgers or Northwestern but you have to pull in at least another 100m or have Nike pay the difference (I.e. Oregon) Get your boosters together and make a pitch I have heard rumors Miami might have a billionaire supporting them 😂
I didnt' watch the video to be clear. I just wanted to say no conference is giving anyone the death blow. Modern CFB is just showing that one conference or 1-3 teams will no longer have the ability to dominate going forward. The balance is real and we will see big shifts every year on "CFB power"
SEC has taken over every other sport, they’ll get back right in football soon enough. Baseball/softball for sure are being dominated by SEC and now men’s/women’s basketball is better in SEC than anywhere else. Gonna be hard to deal them a death blow when they’re the leading conference in every major sport. Quality over quantity, SEC could’ve expanded to 20 teams years ago if that’s what they wanted to do.
It's almost like yall forget the SEC has been DOMINANT for 20+yrs. 1 season without the SEC in the Top 2 and the 10 crowd starts making claims of "we rule" (in my best Corky voice) Stop it... Get some help. 1 down season doesn't negate 2 decades of dominance.
Bama and Ga did. Most of the rest hung on to their coat tails. Now that you cant pay players under the table, which was illegal, the SEC is pretty ordinary. We alllll saw that..everyone can now pay, the SEC loses its players. Simple.
@johngetz8585 you think the reason the SEC has owned yall is because they paid their players, and your team didn't? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 delusional, excuse making, crybabies live in fantasy land.
Funny that is not what you say about FSU...1 down year...Oh and I am not sure the SEspnC has "dominated" the last 20 years. FSU and other teams won the natty during that time. Now when St. Nick came along all of a sudden Alabama got relevant.
As a Miami fan, ofc Miami would leave. It's all about that buyout and how FSU/Clemson gets to leave. Miami is just watching them to learn how to proceed later on. Miami let FSU be the bad guy while it wants to do the exact same thing.
We don’t need or want notre dame in the big 10 why would we give them a sweet deal and they get to keep their tv money? We courted them they acted funny, let them stay independent
I think this NIL thing should have not went pass 800.000. These kids are not NFL players, look at this they move around every year because they think they are. I'm just saying….
Everyone forgets the SEC only won 4 National Championships from 1981-2005. Nick Saban changed that narrative, not the rest of the SEC.
The SEC won 4 Natties from 1992 to 2003. Remember 2004 Auburn went undefeated, and USC didn't play them for the natty.
@1wollf74....first of all usc was kept out of the bcs in 2003 even though oklahoma lost it's conference championship game, would have beaten lsu, as far as auburn usc played auburn home and home the 2 years before 2004....and beat them both times....auburn didn't want more of that....
You forget that the Big 10 been around since 1896 the SEC was established in 1933. So even with almost 40 year head start the SEC has more championships Gump
No. Everyone remembers. The SEC homers choose not to acknowledge it.
@@ericharp77and Before Kirby…. UGA went how many decades between championships?
The B10 isn't going to kiss Notre Dame ass! They don't have too, neither does the SEC!
The B12 doesn't either. If ND isn't in the P3, then they can kick sand in all sports!
@arronfrazier7873 ND had their chance to join the Big10, they snubed their nose at them even though the Big10 was providing them with half their schedual. They can piss off as far as I'm concerned.
@@JohnDry-d7z😂
No way Michigan and OSU, would be ok with a sweetheart deal for ND. That would never happen
Nothing will happen publicly until ESPN announces their decision on ACC TV contract.
Players can be paid openly now. That’s the difference.
Would say the transfer portal has just as much to do with parity we are seeing in all sports
Not really because the SEC has more NIL money.
TJ ~ simply no. The B1G does not need to offer a "sweetheart" deal to Notre Dame. The B1G per institution share is already more than Notre Dame gets from both their TV contract and the 20 million from the CFP this year according to the people who cover ND on a daily and weekly basis. ND decision on a conference is not based on just dollars alone.
True, but I wonder what would happen if they were threatened (credibly) with not having a real shot at the national championship anymore?
ND will just buy out then entire B10 y’all brokies.
@@brendancordial3483 LOL Notre Dame is bargin shopping at a garage sale for the B1G. Notre Dame is a "broke ass school" compared to what Northwestern and Rutgers get from the B1G TV deal.
@ Cope a little? I don't think ND can "buy out" the states of Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and all the other state schools to get their way.
So is there any creditable info in this opinion or are you just looking to get views for a unfounded opinion ?????????
People keep saying “the B1G has won the last 2”, without any awareness that the SEC won 4 of the last 6 and 12 of the last 18.
Recency bias is the only thing feeding these horrible hot takes.
Thank you for being fair with Miami.
miami is a DOLPHIN town, but the not the hurricane
@@larryobrien2694which is crazy cause hurricanes are better
I would love to see my hometown team the Louisville Cardinals in the Big Ten.
If espn can sway Clemson, FSU, North Carolina and Virginia to join the SEC, then they will not
extend the Grant of Rights and Network deal with the ACC. If word gets back to Disney that
Clemson, FSU Miami and Georgia Tech would go to the Big 10, then espn will do whatever they
can to lock the current ACC teams into a long term contract.
The only 2 ACC schools that have received an offer to join the SEC are FSU and GT
From what I heard, the sec doesn't want anything to do with state they already have schools in. And fsu did not get an offer to join the sec, and GT left the sec back in 64 and has got no offer to rejoin.
@@jasonshaffer3341 trust me, they have and FSU has too. The SEC doesn't want Clemson.
I am an OSU/B1G homer, but the SEC is not dead. There will always be ebbs and flows, let’s not forget we were 1 possession and a hurt QB away from an all SEC final this year, and an OT goal line stand and 1 possession game last year from an all SEC final. (I know, technically Texas was still a Big 12 team)
I'm not sure UGA gets through both ND and Penn State.
@@bigredracingdog466 ok ND only win vs uga hurt qb. Penn State lol
@williamlind1715 Delulu the SEC had no chance last year, and no chance this year. We will see what they can to avoid a 3-peat of mediocrity next year
Ohio blew a 34-14 lead against Georgia. Could be 3 championships in a row.
Thats funny coming from a big 10 fan. Finally win 2 in a row and now you want to talk big ish. @A_Fool
The fact that ND made the championship game settles in their mind they don't need a conference.
Aint no way you'd give Notre Dame more money than Ohio State or Michigan, youd possibly run them off
Notre Dame shouldn't get any more or less than any other team in the Big 10.
I agree - but it might be the only thing to get them in and I think you'd adjust it to decrease over time. (Since they'd be bringing in NBC more fully.)
We are still looking at these 2 conferences someday breaking away and doing their own thing. I think the last few weeks has only reinforced that the largest programs, most inside the P2, want to move towards independence from the NCAA. ND will not join a conference unless it has no other choice. SEC doesn't want to see them in BIG. So they will allow for a scheduling alliance that allows ND to join as an independent, as long ND agrees the schedule BIG/SEC 8-10 games each.
@@adamb6370SEC doesn’t want ND and will never accept them they are too far
It’s too late son it’s going to happen
@@alexnowicki286 yea….thats what I said. But the SEC doesn’t want them in the BIG. So the SEC might allow them to continue as an independent as long as the SEC get some scheduling benefits. SEC does want to see ND visit Athens, The Swamp, or Red Stick.
Why would ND join a conference now after being in the natty and keeping all the bank
because when the P2 finish their realignment. They may leave the NCAA and start their own league and playoff. It is believed all top tier schools will be affiliated with one of these conferences. ND will want to go with them and not left behind playing UCF and Toledo.
Because Notre Dame just had best case scenario? They don't want to fall back and be left alone possibly in the future.
On Saturday, Notre Dame and Comcast NBCUniversal announced a new TV deal running through 2029. Notre Dame is expected to receive around $50 million per year from NBC, in addition to the $17 million it receives from the ACC. Notre Dame's total compensation is slightly less than what members of the Big Ten would receive.Nov 19, 2023
@@tyeash7822You forgot the $10M a year from Under Armour & getting to keep 100% any post-season earnings. ND football program earned right at $100M for the 2024 season. Why on earth does this Florida St. fanboy TH-camr think ND would want to join the downtrodden Big 12? Makes zero sense.
Because NBC wants them in the BIG10
ND adds nothing of value for the member schools in the BIG, now FSU,UM and Clemson at least add recruiting opportunities as well as additional market coverage. So there is value for both the BIG conference and the member schools.
An ACC and Big Ten merger would be epic 😎
Any teams Big wants it would just take lol
Big 10 already has a bunch of crappy teams so they won’t be merging with the ACC.
U never know if big ten acc agree to swap teams to balance out both leagues big ten grabs big names and acc gets the bottom half
It's already in the works. It is a NFL model that everyone in the rest of college football fears. They will break away and grab 6 more high potential teams. To go to a 40 team league.
Everyone on the message boards will say no. Yet I heard about conference realignment years ago and look where we are now. I get people don't want their schools left behind. Billionaires are ruining the game we love. Just like they're ruining our country.
@@goxybrNot really. Just a couple
TJ, I don't think it matters anymore. They are negotiating and coordinating with each other. I think both conferences will continue with realignment. between moves and counter-moves. In the end, FSU, Clemson, Stanford, UNC, UVA, Kansas, Colorado, and Arizona will elevate.
I'm not as sold on Miami. I think these conferences will take a holistic approach. Miami would immediately be the smallest school in either conference, Vandy included. They play in a rented stadium an hour from campus. They have major attendance problems. They would have to make major investments to get into BIG. That's why I picked Stanford. I think it would move the needle with ND and would bring more value.
@@adamb6370 UCLA also plays in a stadium far from campus with attendance issues but they made it. And Colorado, Arizona, UNC, and Kansas are definitely behind Miami. You’re also forgetting about TV deals and Miami has a large TV audience. They get good viewership and the South Florida area has a lot of people
@ well yea but the only reason UCLA was included was to prevent issues getting USC. UCLA has done nothing but whine about their travel schedule easy for the past month. Miami doesn’t bring anything in viewership that Florida db FSU don’t already own. I’m not saying Miami isn’t added to BIG (not an SEC candidate) Especially if FSU ends up SEC bound. But it’s a tougher case than a Stanford and they will have to make guarantees to build a stadium near Coral Gables and align their facilities and programs more like a BIG school.
@WesternTomb7UNC would be in front of all schools named here. Arizona and Colorado aren’t getting invited anywhere.
@ they could if BIG continues to have scheduling issues with the schools out west. They may need 2 more schools out there. Listen to the UCLA coaches interview last week.
So your thought process is that the Big Ten would give ND more than any of the other Big ten schools, and they wouldn't lose their minds over that, AND FSU, Miami and Clemson would all say "yeah, we wanna join the Big Ten and get less than ND as well". That's the most ridiculous, idiotic thing I think I've ever heard. The Big Ten would be more likely to take Syracuse, instead of ND than they would be in paying ND more than any other school. ND is not the brand they once were. No matter what deal they strike with NBC for rights, they're not the pull they used to be. This isn't back when there's 3 tv stations, so you were watching ND football or nothing at all. This is now a time when 90% of the eyes are on the bigger games on rather than ND versus nobody.
The big 10 is 5 to 6 teams deep... while the sec is 11 to 12 teams deep.. is why it is so much easier to get to the playoffs.. and bowl games mean zero.. with most big teams have a lot of players sit out
Notre Dame is not going to let go of all the cash they get. They got 20 million all to themselves.
With an endowment in the top 15 at 17 billion 20 million is a drop in a bucket.
Notre Dame isn't joining a conference. Miami, Clemson and FSU are nobody's in the grand scheme of things. This would make no difference.
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wild work
NIL killed the Bagman sec advantage. Now make everyone play 9 conference games and it will be a level playing field.
You already have a big advantage with nil.
@SteveAllen-x2m
Not over Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M. Ohio State was #11 in NIL spending. Everyone is just gaslighting the Buckeyes to diminish their nc.
Naw, the SEC will never give up Chickenshit Saturday, and replace it with conference games.
@@salembuckeye9030watched some Bama shows after they lost to michigan, and they admitted their Nil contributing has decreased
@@salembuckeye9030man everybody knows Ohio state has deep pockets.
CRAZY THING ABOUT WHAT THE SEC DOES.....I FEEL SURE THAT SANKEY WILL BE THE DECISION MAKER !!!
The SEC lost their edge when NIL became legal and the portal is wide open.
The ACC blew their chance to give Notre Dame a sweetheart deal.
good video!! it'll be an interesting off season....Go Noles!!
Honestly I live 8 miles from nd in Niles MI and would not mind to see us play our traditional rivals again every year. Michigan Michigan state and Purdue traditional rivals mean more than any random acc team we play anymore. No disrespect to acc
The cream at the top in the Big 10 is every bit as good as the SEC. In football, the problem that the Big 10 needs to address is the detritus at the bottom. The SEC has one perennial cellar dweller (Vandy). The Big 10 has Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers, Illinois, and Indiana. Yes a couple of those teams had good years last year (Vandy, Illinois, and Indiana), but those are blips on the radar in a long history of bad football. The Big 10 doesn't need top tier teams as bad as it needs to add solid programs and build up their bottom tier teams.
If the B1G wants Notre Dame, it will have to take Cal and Stanford, too. In case you missed it, ND forced the ACC to take them when the PAC collapsed.
More likely that ND had to provide some assurances to get CAL/STANFORD imvited.
Im a huge ND fan and would love to see ND join the Big10 !!!
I live in Canada so I could get to more games 😂
GO IRISH !!! ☘☘☘🙏🙏🙏🍻🍻🍻🏆🏆🏆☘☘☘
Maryland and Rutgers still fleecing tha Big10 😅
……and bringing the New York television market.
One thing wont change. Notre dame will continue to schedule army and navy and a few more cupcakes just stay away from northern Illinois. Maybe lose one or two games and still make the playoff every year. What a recruiting advantage.
The Big Ten absolutely will not be offering Notre Dame more money than other members to get them to join. Notre Dame without the Big Ten makes so much less money per year that even making the national championship every season would not have them catch up to the base payout Big Ten teams get before any bowls or playoff games are considered. Notre Dame should be begging to come to the Big Ten, which now houses all of their biggest rivalries including with USC. Notre Dame has two choices, and those are to be prideful and keep making less TV money than Northwestern, or join the Big Ten as an equal member. If anyone in the Big Ten is getting special treatment it's the two teams who produce the most watched regular season game of every season, not Notre Dame.
I don't know if things are really moving in this direction, but it's a bad idea. For the playoff system to work, there has to be some distribution of top teams in the various buckets, be they conferences or indys. The Big 10 and SEC have seriously damaged this by drawing the best Big 12 and Pac 10 teams into their conferences. It's harder to tell, now, which SEC and Big 10 teams are best, because they beat up on each other, and because with 8 conference games, some teams end up with much easier schedules. Notre Dame joining either of the superconferences would be terrible. The only choices that help college football would be to join one of the other conferences or stay independent. I say this as a huge OSU fan, understanding the Big 10 could be dominant with ND as a member, but the sport would be worse.
We dont care at UGA only concern 1st half vs Bama i really don't think Kirby wanted to be sec ship.Hence ole Miss game.
IDK how the SEC folks felt about their expansion, but generally speaking most B1G folks seemed to have LOVED PAC-4 coming over. It was just such a fun and exciting year for B1G. IDK how it would go with more expansion. I feel like it could be even more fun...but honestly little afraid to ruin the good times we had in '24. My understanding is B1G wants NC and UVA, but it would be crazy to pick up UVA, NC, Clemson, FSU and Miami...that would put B1G in the driver seat. What is Texas Tech's AAU status?
Unequal Revenue sharing will create dissension and leave the Big Ten vulnerable for poaching. Just let the grown-ups do their job😂
EXACTLY. Unequal revenue sharing is stupid
@@A1Googler Just because something is stupid doesn't mean it won't happen.
SEC has also lost the post season game location advantage, those CFP games north of the Mason Dixon line will be difficult to win in December, especially those in BIG country where the average temp will be around 10-30 degrees with a high chance of freezing rain or snow.
😂 Not really. SEC plays in the cold and snow all the time. See Arkansas vs. Mizzou this past season.
@ so 1 team versus an entire conference (except USC/UCLA). I guarantee coaching staffs in the SEC aren’t preparing for snow games the same way coaching staffs in the BIG are. It’s not the same, especially considering the majority of the SEC’s best programs are all located in the Deep South.
@@garyklyce713You people think everything south of Indiana is a tropical climate 😂
As a Miami fan, I don’t know how I feel about joining the Big Ten. It would be nice I guess, but competition would be much harder, and there would then be 22 teams in the conference assuming they don’t kick the scrubs out. I would love to play Nebraska and Notre Dame more though.
These mega conferences are insane.
It's not about how anyone "feels"... it's about survival...MONEY. Trust me, IF Miami had the opportunity to join the BIG10... there would be absolutely NO hesitation, they would jump quicker than you could bat an eye!
The center of gravity in the SEC has shifted to Austin. Their hope going forward is Texas, not Alabama or Georgia.
Yeah that's why GA in one of there worse seasons beat texas twice, take that crap somewhere else.
@@Huntmaster1 Nevertheless, UT has gotten farther than UGA in the CFP the past two years. Next year UT brings in Arch Manning and returns the bulk of their team. I'm not a fan of either team, but from the outside looking in, UT seems to be the better program going forward.
Texas 0=2 uga hmm
Stop being so shortsighted. Austin Texas is one of two top 20 US cities with a major college team but no big 3 professional sports teams to compete with. The other? Columbus. San Jose doesn't have a major college football team.
While Sark has them on the right track, they ain't there. Just because you have the most money does not mean you will do great on the field. Ask Jumbo how that worked out for him and A&M.
"There can be only one" - Highlander
I love Highlander 😂
HELL NO, no unbalanced deals. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard (will other than the nonsense that comes out of Sankey, Saban and Finebaum) Also zero chance B1G wants Clemson.
This would be an awesome conference with these additions! SEC would be in trouble. Already are now that daddy Saban is gone their new member Texas gave them a little dignity this year 😂
The Big 10 seems more interested in ND, UNC and Virginia over FSU and Clemson. Maybe even Georgia Tech.
How so?
Big ten schools have to be aau certification. Not a requirement but recommended. Nebraska was aau but lost it and there is a lot of pressure to get them back. 6 new schools were invited this year. Take a look who they are
Well you say it doesnt matter what happened for 15 yrs but 2 yrs all of a sudden matter?
That would do it. ND, FSU, MIAMI & whoever the other one is… dear lord.
With the ACC now being linked to the west coast I'd like to see some teams leave if that works favorably for those teams.
Right now, the ACC has first dips on Notre Dame, should they
choose to join a Conference. So, the Big 10 or Big XII would
have to make some sort of monetary contribution to the ACC
in order to land the Irish, unless the ACC folds altogether.
It appears that no team will be leaving the ACC now as E$PN signs a TV contract with the ACC through 2036
The B1G can force ND into the B1G by signing the SEC scheduling agreement. That will trigger new TV revenue in the short and long term that ND can't match. Fewer teams will want to schedule ND in the future if SEC is playing 9 conference games and the B1G. At some point NBC will pressure ND to stop trying to double-dip. The B1G/SEC can also get more leverage by reducing the number of wildcard spots in the playoffs through autobids for conference participants.
agreed, and during the next round of realignment, there wont be many large schools left not in the P2. ND wont like that will fear not be able to get on those schedules. They will look for some type of scheduling agreement for themselves.
@@adamb6370 Yep. I think the SEC is done protecting them when they reach the natty when the SEC feels like they should've had one or two more teams in the playoffs. The ND carve-out is hurting the SEC more than it hurt the B1G. LOL
Mid10 is garbage
@@Gorion-ch9xo Okay.
If FBS college football is going to further subdivide and be peeled off from the NCAA, then I would rather this happen BEFORE the B1G considers adding to its membership.
Good info. 💯
How many team from the big ten has won a title since 1970. Those old 50’s games toss out. Barely lifted weights then.
Miami is already an AAU member, that is something to keep in mind too.
Dude I get what you're saying in this new age of mega conferences but.. I'm a cfb traditionalist. There has already been way too much damage done conference wise. Yes led by the SEC, but I'm just not ready to go all in on the Dark Side. In doing so destroy any assemblance of what cfb was.
Your conference (ACC) is a good conference, put 2 teams in. Weaker yes but growing big time. We need the ACC to be strong and you're almost there. Focus on your own and Don't give up!
I think you can add Cal and Stanford to your list of 4 too. Big media market.
If Cal and Stanford was wanted so bad, they would have taken them with USC and UCLA! This is about football!
Looks like FSU and Miami go to B1G. NC, NC State, Clemson to SEC. Memphis, Tulane, South FL replace them in ACC. I just don't see Cal and Stanford staying in ACC if that happens. Maybe they go back to the PAC, if they get their shit together. Maybe MW. Maybe B1G takes both them now, if ND shuns them again. Greater SF media market is #10 in the country. Nearby Sacramento is #12.
If ND finally does go to the B1G, (because their ratings have been really shitty playing ACC teams, and will be worse if the good ACC schools leave) Standford might go with ND to the B1G while Cal goes somewhere else.
I am talking about football. It's now all about money, and what generates money, is the size of your media market because ESPN, Fox, ABC, NBC, and CBS are paying the bills now, and will dictate heavily, who plays where. ACC media deal is up with ESPN and currently under negotiations this week!
The title of your video is misleading. The B1G and SEC are not working against each other at all. They are meeting next month together to discuss interconference games and standardize their schedules!
As we are finding out in this ongoing lawsuit, the Grant of Rights is ironclad and no ACC school is leaving the confrence in the next 10 years.
They could make an agreement to move teams around
Lawsuits are slow. It does not matter how good your case is, the Court works on its own schedule. So the "ironclad" part is not assured.
@@richardbrookins5406 at this speed, the case will be over in 2036, at which time we will be free anyway.
Best thing that could happen in terms of Notre Dame is that if the ACC said no thanks,and the B!G said come in as an equal or survive by yourself.
Help a brother out...what is "AAU Membership".?
NBC put a bonus for Notre Dame. Every team would receive $115mil, per rumors.
Notre Dame would make more getting last place in the BigTen vs making the National Championship.
But would ND keep the donors?
Teams leaving the ACC sounds like South Park's underwear gnomes:
1. Challenge GOR
2. ?????
3. Profits
The discussions have to brush over how they break the exit fee, if there was a likely way out they would have taken it already.
The ACC teams departure will be known ahead of the ACC broadcast contract's expiration, they will want a new conference lined up with full revenue sharing when the SEC and B1G negotiate their contracts.
*B1G has already stated they want to negotiate before other conferences.*
B1G going before the B12 and SEC would be too short an extension (3 years) for the increase the B1G will be seeking. The last B1G contract was negotiated before USC-UCLA added, inked just after their addition. It didn't include additions of Oregon and Washington. The B1G will be seeking a huge increase.
*The B1G will sign a 5 year contract in 2029* to go ahead of the ACC.
ESPN will tie the B12 then SEC into long term contracts, effectively giving them control of SEC/B12 expansion.
ESPN won't finance B12 expansion, and the B12 members won't take the shared revenue cut to finance on their own.
*ESPN will repeat their past negotiation tactics with the SEC:* Sign a long contract that will give the SEC a lot of money up front, but by the time it expires will be undervalued, essentially giving the SEC their money up front. The SEC will agree to appease their fans, kicking the can down the road for a future commissioner to explain why they are falling behind.
*Delany noted Nebraska would have been admitted without AAU affiliation,* it was known Nebraska was going to get booted from the AAU when they were added. It wasn't really a requirement then, it isn't now, it is what the chancellors/presidents cited as an example to press that they didn't want some concern for academics, no football factories.
*The departing ACC teams will be* FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC, and maybe VT. The contracts lean too heavily towards FB for Duke to be a candidate. The rest of the ACC will be a hoops conference that plays very good FB, but not at the caliber of B1G/SEC, a step behind the B12, far ahead of the G6.
Clemson to the B1G is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. They just don't belong. It's not a good academic or cultural fit. If 2 teams are added, UM and FSU make the most sense
Although I've liked the idea for decades... The B1G has tried to get ND for decades. It ain't happening.
SEC is poverty conference minus Texas now with NIL. And I’m here for it. Hate the sec and its fans
The B1G only has one independent, Northwestern. Unclear whether they would want a second. Other big issue. Miami just stole a player from Wisconsin and the B1G conference sent a nasty letter to Miami. The Hurricanes may have poisoned the well. Maybe Miami to Big 12,
You straight out lied! Miami didn't anybody! Xavier Lucas wanted to transfer from Wisconsin. He is from South Florida and his father is sick! Per the rules, Wisconsin had 48 hours to put his name in the portal per the rules. Wisconsin refused to do this! Miami isn't going to the Big 12!
@@arronfrazier7873 He had a two year contract with Wisconsin. If he had bad year, Wisconsin had to still give him NIL next year. As a lawyer, that is pretty straight forward. I expect Wisconsin to sue Miami for interference with contractual relationships. It really is not legally complicated. Do NIL deals mean anything? What if a kid had a great first four games (and not lose eligibility for the season) and withdrew from the school since someone else whispered big money in his ear for the following season. I assume that is also fine with you.
In any event, watch and see if there is any interest in Miami by the B1G. The SEC has never had an interest. This may boomerang big time for the Hurricanes.
@@observer46-vh5bm Its clear, you don't everything! Currently, its 3:12 est here and 1/28/2025! He signed a NIL deal in 12/04/24! He received no money! A few days later, he wanted to transfer! NIL deals aren't binding! I know, your not talking about the name and likeness deal, that isn't even a law yet! That is an illegal deal!
Ohio the home of champions
It totally makes since as far as recruiting as well. It not only opens up a major pipeline into the Midwest, but in places like California as well.
Ohio State , Notre Dame both have that Nation Wide Brand . They are able to recruit All over.
Ohio State especially. They go into places like Texas and Florida , and steal 5 star recruits on a regular basis. Let alone , they get the cream of the Crop in Ohio.
But opening that door to a Florida St. and Miami, Clemson is huge. FSU and MU can’t just survive on Florida Talent as they once did. Everyone from the SEC , and the Ohio States of the world have their hands in the State of Florida.
They need to expand their pipelines. BIG Ten will do that. From Coast to coast , now that The PAC 12 big Dogs are in the Big 10 as well.
Correction! Miami and FSU can survive on Florida talent! The Big 3 of Florida of Miami, UF and FSU get the majority of their roster and players from Florida! Miami won the state first national title in football under HC Howard Schnellenurger. Back ground on Howard before being hired at Miami in 1979! He was coaching with the Miami Dolphins 7 of the 10 years of the 1970's! It was his time in Florida in the NFL, he saw so many Florida born players in the NFL! The problem was they weren't going to Miami, FSU and UF! They were leaving Florida to go to college! He got hired at Miami and his was to change recruiting in the State of Florida specifically for Miami in South Florida! Miami national title 1983 team had a roster make up of high 50% to low 60% Florida born players. The rest of the roster was from out of the state Florida. Every national title which is 10 in total by Miami, FSU and UF 87 to 2013, their rosters were 70% or higher Florida HS players and the rest out of state! That formula still works! The state of Florida is the 3rd largest state of 23 million and it grows daily! Oh by Ohio State and Notre Dame aren't the only ones with a nation brand! Miami has national brand! That 1983 national title team says so! 3 of Miami national titles were won by QB's from California!
@ That was then, and this is now.
In today’s CFB world, the vast majority of Florida’s Blue Chip players are scattered out on Bama , UGA , rosters , and all throughout the SEC and elsewhere. Do you realize that during Clemson’s stent , not too long ago, Dabo Sweeney had more 4 and 5 *from here in Florida on his rosters than the Big 3 combined?
Then take into consideration others like the Bosa Brothers elect Ohio State.
I understand “ Back in the Day.”
But those days are gone.
The NFL is the proves this point.
Think of when UM and FSU and even UF vs FSU was basically to decide who’d go to the Natty.
Those programs are no longer stocking the NFL with Florida Talent any longer.
Sure there are a hell of a lot of Florida Boys in the NFL. But the vast majority of them that are at least making a name for themselves , played CFB out of state.
“ Back in the day” , I remember UM teams from Jimmy Johnson , Butch Davis, Larry Coker , with Rosters full of Florida boys that became future All Pros, and HOF players. Many in the same lineups.
But when is the last time the Canes had that recruiting edge.
02, 03 when OSU got them in the Championship?
Bobby Bowden at the same time putting rosters together full of Florida Boys that would go on to winning Championships and dominating in the NFL.
Florida under Spurrier doing the same, with oftentimes 3rd pick of the litter of a loaded Florida Boy Roster.
No one has done that “ Consistently “ though since Urban Meyer at UF though.
And even he had to battle with Alabama, Auburn, LSU , OSU , Texas, UGA, etc. to get his hands on Florida Blue Chippers. But he was smart enough to span out his recruiting to places like Texas, Ohio, Georgia to fill the gaps .
North Carolina is more desirable than Clemson
😂😂😂 quit listening to these foolish people
Us clemson we won champions then yall have where yall
@martinortiz6601
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But the data shows the largest concentration of CFB fans are in the south. The shows as OSU/ND viewers numbers were not good. Thats another why BIG might target southern schools.
As a Michigan alum and a graduate of a catholic primary school- I dont want Notre Dame in the BIG. I dont like mixing religion and education/sports/politics. I dont want BYU in either.
@@scottlaux6934 How is it being a bigot and rejecting people because they have a belief system?
A Michigan man, with values just like Connor Stallions 🤣 smh
Miami will not join a Big Two conference until they have an on-campus stadium that they can regularly fill. Pro Player half empty, even when the Canes are good, is not a viable TV product for the B1G brand. The SEC might make Miami work, since it's a great road trip for the visiting fans. That might fill Pro Player sufficiently, most of the time.
What's up I agree to a point with you The B1G is on top in football 🏈 right now thats about it but Look at the difference in scheduling in the SEC & the B1G every SEC team from top to bottom is good theys 2-4 Teams in the B1G that is good the rest of them are not thats the difference if the B1G played the same level of competition as the SEC all season beating up on each other they would go down quick 💯 !
For sure. If they add these four, it'd increase the parity in the B1G like SEC. But it'd also add some pretty major brands. Would be fun to see. Thanks for the comment.
@@EricBJones B1G went 5-1 against the SEC in the postseason with a ranked Mizzou barely clipping unranked Iowa by 3. USC beat LSU during the regular season. You need to reassess your SEC bias.
@DavidKreitzer-ng2fe Yeah the B1G did because they's 2-4 good B1G teams that's it they play each other sometimes but most of the B1G teams have 1 or 2 Tough games during the regular season 💯 The SEC teams are all pretty good and can beat any other team any given Saturday 💯 so in the SEC it's a tough game every Saturday unlike the B1G like I said so hell the B1G should've been 5-1 against the SEC in the post season when they don't have to play but 1-2 tough games In the regular Season and the SEC teams has to give it all they have every Saturday of the season 💯 so SEC bias or not in the SEC It Just Means More because it's tougher competition than the B1G 💯!!!!!! And it ain't like the B1G is dominating every sport because they are not yeah they have 🏈 the last 2 seasons and won the Championship but it's gonna change guarantee cause the B1G has 2 National Championships outta the last 20 or 21 the rest the SEC has won 💯!!! And the SEC is dominating 🏀 right now as well
@@DavidKreitzer-ng2femid10 is garbage had a losing record against the acc n b12 REGULAR SEASON past few seasons
@ Stay in your delusion. I'm talking about now.
Amazing times.
Screw ND. Give them an ultimatum. Join a conference or no invitation. Committee should demand that teams must be conference member for inclusion. What damn group needs prima Donna’s dictating the rules.
Why would ND join either conference… any conference… when they have total control over their schedule? If they joined B1G or SEC, they’d lose that control and play either conference’s top tier teams on a regular basis… DURING the season vs. in the playoffs?
ND football is only ND sport that’s independent. ND hockey is in big 10. ND other sports is in ACC. So ND gets money for hockey from big10 and ACC for other sports and that’s on top of the independent football tv deal. ND gets more money being the way they are than if they joined a conference. They will stay independent with football that’s not gonna change.
Miami’s playing Chess ♟️. FSU & Clemson playing checkers
ACC taking over the Big 12
Every power school is one coaching change away from mediocrity.
Big10 blackballed nd for decades since it was a catholic university. As late as Bo shembechler, Michigan repeatedly expressed disdain for nd. Why did nd choose acc for other sports?
It's all about the $$$ now. There simply is more money up North than down South. Like MLB, where the Yankees have dominated most of my life. Follow the money trail and you will find the best teams in CFB's future. Too bad for the little guys who will not ever have a chance again.
Oooooo money not to sure about that OSU release there financial statement 37 million deficit in there athletic dept.
Is that what it takes to win national championship 🤔
Notre Dame , join us or you don't play against us. Pretty simple.
When Texas wins next season then what 😅
You make the bold statement that the Big Ten is on the ascendancy and the SEC is under decline and you give no support for your assertion. You say it’s not because of the recent bowl games but then all you talk about is the recent bowl games. The SEC just added Texas and OU. That tops the Big Ten additions.
The SEC would never take FSU nor Clemson so both of those could go to the Big Ten. But the SEC would take University of North Carolina. So there’s no way the big 10 could get them.
Big 10 teams have easy schedule every year😂😅
As a Michigan grad and fan, I'm Michigan first. Big 10.....eh. The loser I'm rooting to lose even more is groomer Disney/ESPN. And the key to ND is academics. Right now they have an unwarranted AAU designation; unwarranted because they do squat for research. It should be pulled. They pulled it from Nebraska just because their medical school was on a different campus. ND doesn't even have a medical school.
Unfortunately unless the business case is there the big 10 won’t add them
Much rather have fsu and Miami than Rutgers or Northwestern but you have to pull in at least another 100m or have Nike pay the difference (I.e. Oregon)
Get your boosters together and make a pitch I have heard rumors Miami might have a billionaire supporting them 😂
Not a rumor. It’s true. Mas brothers support the canes.
Why would the B10 give ND a bigger piece of the pie when they literally just got thrashed in the NC game?
That's not how this works.
I didnt' watch the video to be clear. I just wanted to say no conference is giving anyone the death blow. Modern CFB is just showing that one conference or 1-3 teams will no longer have the ability to dominate going forward. The balance is real and we will see big shifts every year on "CFB power"
You counted as a view, just fwiw.
@@CFBAddiction Every view counts!
It's appreciated. I agree with your comment by the way. I do think this would be a blow, though.
Totally disagree... It will change immediately as it is now. But will settle out with probably close to the same 6 teams it's always been $$$.
SEC has taken over every other sport, they’ll get back right in football soon enough. Baseball/softball for sure are being dominated by SEC and now men’s/women’s basketball is better in SEC than anywhere else. Gonna be hard to deal them a death blow when they’re the leading conference in every major sport. Quality over quantity, SEC could’ve expanded to 20 teams years ago if that’s what they wanted to do.
Sec dominance is mythology.. games played in the south, over ranking teams 2 get more chances via secspn
I'll listening again. Then the hard truth. One way or the other.
Miami going to the B1G or SEC would magnify very quickly just how bad a CFB HC Mario Cristobal is. He would be a B1G or SEC doormat.
Not necessarily
Notre Dame to the Big Ten is still inevitable. All in due time.
It's almost like yall forget the SEC has been DOMINANT for 20+yrs. 1 season without the SEC in the Top 2 and the 10 crowd starts making claims of "we rule" (in my best Corky voice) Stop it... Get some help. 1 down season doesn't negate 2 decades of dominance.
Bama and Ga did. Most of the rest hung on to their coat tails. Now that you cant pay players under the table, which was illegal, the SEC is pretty ordinary. We alllll saw that..everyone can now pay, the SEC loses its players. Simple.
Try two seasons now. Everyone can pay players now. It's over for the SEC
@lukecalhoun6569 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 cool
@johngetz8585 you think the reason the SEC has owned yall is because they paid their players, and your team didn't? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 delusional, excuse making, crybabies live in fantasy land.
Funny that is not what you say about FSU...1 down year...Oh and I am not sure the SEspnC has "dominated" the last 20 years. FSU and other teams won the natty during that time. Now when St. Nick came along all of a sudden Alabama got relevant.
NO. No exceptions for Notre Dame
We don't need noter dame the big ten is fine without them.
As a Miami fan, ofc Miami would leave. It's all about that buyout and how FSU/Clemson gets to leave. Miami is just watching them to learn how to proceed later on. Miami let FSU be the bad guy while it wants to do the exact same thing.
I enjoyed the Miami game. 🙂
We don’t need or want notre dame in the big 10 why would we give them a sweet deal and they get to keep their tv money? We courted them they acted funny, let them stay independent
I think this NIL thing should have not went pass 800.000. These kids are not NFL players, look at this they move around every year because they think they are. I'm just saying….