@@biased_guy-qb1ss biceps don’t make up a whole physique, you can’t build your biceps and expect to win the Olympia when your whole physique is a downgrade from your prime
That was shitty to hear especially since he wasn't even competing so lame I still admire his will to succeed and mike was a quitter that being said I still like mike mentzer and his physique much more than Arnold he just went down that rabbit hole and never came out till his bad habits already took their toll
Yes, it's why he placed 5th, got salty and rage quick bodybuilding and went on the sell "train every 8 days and look like a bodybuilder" routines to fat lazy men.
@@notenoughspaceto Don't think so, fella. That was Frank Zane who threw his trophy in the parking lot. Mike simply left his trophy behind. Arnold's posing was as Muscle and Fitness described, "uninspired and old hat" meaning it was outdated by the other contestants, who had newer style of posing at the time.
@@notenoughspaceto Your acting like arnold wasn't a bad sport if anything a much, much worse sport than any of the competitors, he would tell people the wrong way to train to get an advantage and when tom platz was talking bout his bicep tear arnold went to the judges to notify them about it. Arnold was a snake and did everything in his possible power to win by sabotaging his competitors and you got it confused with Frank Zane he was the one who broke the trophy not mike.
U mean the "Quitter"..... In the best shape of his life and instead of going back to the gym to work even HARDER..... he spend the rest of his life whining and crying about how Arnold cheated lmao. What a total loser so instead of coming back STRONGER and BIGGER in 1981 he simply QUITS like a sore loser! Bottom line is he was a Meth Head and died of a drug overdose. His life is nothing to celebrate!
@@dontsugarcoat2729 a person can die at any moment , but that doesn't mean that the training method doesn't work or risk for health etc . Try it your self then say something about it 😉
I admire Mike’s morals by walking away from competition, but from a fan’s point of view I’d love to have seen him stick around and win that title at least once.
@@Inventor1488 Or...he literally had them stolen from him. Depends on how you look at it and many feel Mike got the raw end of the deal and should have won...especially in 80!
for how much of an intellectual Mike presents himself it's kinda weird to see him result to ad hominems and call Arnold a Prussian when he wasn't from Germany 🤔
Well Arnold did pretty much cheat him out of a Mr Olympia so you can understand why he called him that even and Austria pretty much is smack next to Germany and his dad was a nazi so that's probably why he said it.
Or maybe what's kinda weird that you don't know the background of Arnold's family. His father was austrian and his mother had czech background but that doesn't mean he didn't had prussian background on his family tree. Especially because of the fact: For almost two hundred years, the area - part of the much larger region of Silesia - belonged to Prussia. Since, it's proven he had Czech background in his family the reasoning of Mike could be valid. I bet Mike could back up this statement since he was right about the nazi part partially. Arnold's father was a nazi. He applied to SA voluntarily eleven days before the annectation of Austria by Germany according to LA times from 2003. If Mike was accurate in this matter he probably didn't just shoot dummy bullets in the case of Prussia. I don't believe he was the kind of guy who stated things publicly he couldn't back up one way or another and if he did it was probably out of anger because of the corruption in those Mr. Olympia competitions.
I totally agree with the fraudness and he also has a really bad attitude wich makes me dislike him too. But the fact is that without him bodybuilding wouldn't be in the same position that it is today and because of that he deserves to be in the books of legends.
The more i knew about Arnold the more i started to hate him. The reason why so many people are fanboying him because they don't know the truth about Arnold.
He could.havee tried winning the following year. But he rage quite like a sore loser and went on to sell "train every 8 days and look like a bodybuilder " routine to fat lazy men.
What? With 3 or 4 people in the line-up back then? How about when no one shows up at the 71 Olympia. That's not competitive at all. The 90's and today's lineup are a lot more competitive than they've ever been
Bro your edits are hella good love your sound-cloud too. Your def going to be the next big thing in the gym community keep grinding and we will be here to support!
Both Mike and brother Ray died of kidney problems very close together---many steroid users died from that- and Mike bragged about his steroid use, let that be a warning to those that might be tempted to use drugs.
this edit is just godly ngl, the shot where arnold and mentzer were side by side looking at each others direction was just perfect showcase of their rivalry
I don’t care what anyone says I support Arnold no matter what he’s the reason why I love bodybuilding and getting a gym membership was the best decision favor I did myself
By Arnold's own admission he was "full of beans" back in his body building days. Like many young people. He certainly holds no record for that. Who can honestly look back on their younger days and say they never messed up?
You realize after Arnold and him spoke in private, he praised Arnold saying he was the greatest bodybuilder ever. This recording was clearly before they settled their differences.
Arnold wins! Mike Mentzer died of roid abuse while Arnold went on to mega success in film and politics. Neither were too good when it came to relationships. Arnold could not keep it in his pants, and Mike sacrificed marriage and family on the alter of the almighty roid bod. Pathetic!
Arnold schwarzenegger critiquait Mike sur son ventre il disait que Mike était enceinte, moi de mon côté j aurai critique d arnold de flamant rose🦩 car les jambes chez arnold étaient son point faible.....
Arnold was brought back in to booster his then failing movie career. The fix was in and it ruined many years of hard work for others. 😮 He was despised in the bodybuilding world there after.
Mas quem foi governador na Califórnia. E fez uns filmes por aí? Quem? Nem estadunidenses o cara não é. Fez Conan. Mais uma dica vamos ver quem acerta!!! Em um de seus filmes contracenou com danny devito.!!!!!
Evertbody ask youself a question. Would Arnold come out of retirement and risk his PERFECT record of wins in every Olympia he competed in? I doubt it. But if Arnold could get the judges to rig the contest in his favor then he could easily come out of retirement without having to risk his perfect record of wins as the contest would already be rigged in his favor. MENTZER should have won purely on overall muscle separation throughout the ENTIRE body.
Arnold knew the Secret, the "Law of Attraction"...Say what you want but Arnold had total confidence that was not to be confused with ego...Okay, maybe a little ego...
All these seemingly powerful guys never ever settling it out like m e n. In a 1 vs man battle :) Ken Waller is a positive exception. If someone messed with him he stopped it, quickly at that. Even with ... ... did not train at Gold`s Gym for 3-4 months after Ken took not nicely to the i8ntrigaht tirades... Ken is way more impressive. He even was a real life debt collector in his 70 s(!!!???) and a Private Investigator.
Mike had integrity
Of doing meth
Mike's physique was incredible
its just his opponent was Arnold 💔
@@biased_guy-qb1ssmentzer looked better than Arnold in 80’
@@Inquisitivemarmott nah bro Arnold biseps are something else 🔥
@@biased_guy-qb1ss biceps don’t make up a whole physique, you can’t build your biceps and expect to win the Olympia when your whole physique is a downgrade from your prime
@@Inquisitivemarmott thats why Arnold won 🔥
I got a mass disrespect to Arnold after I heard what he did to Tom Platz
Same
Same
Same, just saying it so i can be part of the Same crew.
Same @@Pigeonscrapper6573
That was shitty to hear especially since he wasn't even competing so lame I still admire his will to succeed and mike was a quitter that being said I still like mike mentzer and his physique much more than Arnold he just went down that rabbit hole and never came out till his bad habits already took their toll
Mike Mentzer the absoulte GOAT of bodybuilding
How 😂 he never won it lol. He was just a bitch
Yes, it's why he placed 5th, got salty and rage quick bodybuilding and went on the sell "train every 8 days and look like a bodybuilder" routines to fat lazy men.
Turkish high-tech ! I have a folder about it.
Escape the matrix !
Mentored…the goat??? 🤣🤣🤣
Mentored…the goat??? 🤣🤣🤣
Unpopular opinion:
Mike Mentzer has the best physique of all time
I couldn't agree more, he was such an underdog
It isn't unpopular anymore brother everyone says it now
Mike mentzer is the goat
Mike G.O.A.T
First guy with perfect 300 score
Mike in the Golden Age. Ronnie or Kevin in the Mass Age. And Cbum Now
Arnold insulted Mentzer by saying he has a "big belly" but look at 0:23 his waist to shoulder ratio is insane and he has a better V-Taper than Arnold!
True. Arnold was U-shaped
mentzer was the worst sport ever, he broke his trophy after he lost to arnold because mentzer didnt know how to pose
@@notenoughspaceto Don't think so, fella. That was Frank Zane who threw his trophy in the parking lot. Mike simply left his trophy behind. Arnold's posing was as Muscle and Fitness described, "uninspired and old hat" meaning it was outdated by the other contestants, who had newer style of posing at the time.
@@notenoughspaceto Your acting like arnold wasn't a bad sport if anything a much, much worse sport than any of the competitors, he would tell people the wrong way to train to get an advantage and when tom platz was talking bout his bicep tear arnold went to the judges to notify them about it. Arnold was a snake and did everything in his possible power to win by sabotaging his competitors and you got it confused with Frank Zane he was the one who broke the trophy not mike.
and before he did it with sergo oliva too
That roast from Mike was insane
U mean the "Quitter"..... In the best shape of his life and instead of going back to the gym to work even HARDER..... he spend the rest of his life whining and crying about how Arnold cheated lmao. What a total loser so instead of coming back STRONGER and BIGGER in 1981 he simply QUITS like a sore loser!
Bottom line is he was a Meth Head and died of a drug overdose. His life is nothing to celebrate!
You’re easily impressed.
@@Dove88and you're a doush.
@@Dove88it's insane because it's true
It's not what he said was impressive, it's how he viewed it
Also what do you know about me 😂
Maturing is realising Arnold is not that good guy as we thought to be.
Yes
acting and politics need shrewd kind of people.
Sergio Oliva said Arnold and Franco had the best steroids because they had them shipped in from Europe.
Arnold pardon his friends son Esteban Nuñez, which happened to kill someone. Arnold did this on his last night as governor.
@@oDnju He and Franco Colombu had the best steroids.
The perfect bodybuilder "Mike Mentzer"
He didn’t have any lats.
Who's still alive? Exactly!
@@dontsugarcoat2729 a person can die at any moment , but that doesn't mean that the training method doesn't work or risk for health etc . Try it your self then say something about it 😉
@@NemeanLion- you need to replace your eyes 👀.
@@fahmidnafiz will do! Hafez.
Guys don’t forget Arnold use to give wrong advice to others just to win competition - check out his interviews
Just look at Mentzer’s proportions and how the physique flows together like a beautiful symphony. He was the winner.
Mike Mentzer Walter White of Bodybuilding
Arnold Cokenegger: The Roman Polanski of bodybuilding
I admire Mike’s morals by walking away from competition, but from a fan’s point of view I’d love to have seen him stick around and win that title at least once.
Oh, he did...he did win that 1st place in our hearts.
We also know, Arnold shouldn't have won in 80'...
Mike’s protege Dorian Yates won Mr Olympia 6x showing that his techniques worked what else you need?
@@BrotherPatriotMike never won the first place he literally lost all of them
@@topg2820Dorian Yates was not trained by him he just helped him with the training for biceps
@@Inventor1488
Or...he literally had them stolen from him.
Depends on how you look at it and many feel Mike got the raw end of the deal and should have won...especially in 80!
Mike was better
GOD BLESS MIKE FOR CALLING OUT THAT LYING SNAKE ..ARNOLD
for how much of an intellectual Mike presents himself it's kinda weird to see him result to ad hominems and call Arnold a Prussian when he wasn't from Germany 🤔
This is actually a good take and valid judgment of Mike. I wasn’t aware of this beef w Schwarzenegger
Well Arnold did pretty much cheat him out of a Mr Olympia so you can understand why he called him that even and Austria pretty much is smack next to Germany and his dad was a nazi so that's probably why he said it.
Intellectuals of the past used ad hominem almost regularly. From the Ancient Greeks to Nietzsche.
Or maybe what's kinda weird that you don't know the background of Arnold's family. His father was austrian and his mother had czech background but that doesn't mean he didn't had prussian background on his family tree. Especially because of the fact: For almost two hundred years, the area - part of the much larger region of Silesia - belonged to Prussia.
Since, it's proven he had Czech background in his family the reasoning of Mike could be valid.
I bet Mike could back up this statement since he was right about the nazi part partially.
Arnold's father was a nazi. He applied to SA voluntarily eleven days before the annectation of Austria by Germany according to LA times from 2003. If Mike was accurate in this matter he probably didn't just shoot dummy bullets in the case of Prussia.
I don't believe he was the kind of guy who stated things publicly he couldn't back up one way or another and if he did it was probably out of anger because of the corruption in those Mr. Olympia competitions.
he meant nazi as in the actions of thinking of yourself as superior to all others
MM was robbed that year.
Mike was the future Olympia.
i honestly dont like arnold, all the fraud in the ifbb back then made me dislike him and i really dont think he should be seen as such a legend
I totally agree with the fraudness and he also has a really bad attitude wich makes me dislike him too. But the fact is that without him bodybuilding wouldn't be in the same position that it is today and because of that he deserves to be in the books of legends.
@@eliashjort4018 yeah i know, still i think personality wise he doesnt really derserve it
The more i knew about Arnold the more i started to hate him. The reason why so many people are fanboying him because they don't know the truth about Arnold.
@@caesars_top_guy hes also the same guy who says you should surrender your freedom to government and if you say no youre a bigot
@@scamdem1c The last time an Austrian person said that things didn't go so well...
Could that music be more fuckin annoying.
He was so much better than Arnold in that Olympia
Mike was best
Don’t agree, he later became bitter because he was outclassed
@@chickentoucher55not really, Arnold won first champions just because of his acquaintances
Arnold was horrible in 1980. 4th-5th place maybe?
that competition was a fraud.
Mike was Nasty!!! Perfect. He blew arny away. In reality.
First guy with perfect 300 score
wish this edit was longer 😭
Mike was from Ephrata ,PA. I live in the neighboring town,and my neighbor knew Mike
Bodybuilding Omni-man.
I don’t like Arnold
How exactly was Arnold acting like a Nazi? What was he doing? What did he say?
Ur channel keep me alive🤝
Mike DESERVED to Win!!
He could.havee tried winning the following year. But he rage quite like a sore loser and went on to sell "train every 8 days and look like a bodybuilder " routine to fat lazy men.
Mike have my respect... He stand alone like a lion. Don't give fk.
Mike actually knew what was going on in the muscles, than most of the others.
Arnold was Favored step an anyones feet to move up weider made him today what he is. Mike was not treated good in my eyes.
that were the times when bodybuilding was actually competitive
What? With 3 or 4 people in the line-up back then? How about when no one shows up at the 71 Olympia. That's not competitive at all. The 90's and today's lineup are a lot more competitive than they've ever been
Arnold is the GOAT
Bro your edits are hella good love your sound-cloud too. Your def going to be the next big thing in the gym community keep grinding and we will be here to support!
Metzer wom easily
Arnold is Austrian, which is the biggest difference possible to a Prussian for German speaking people.
Mike went all the way,
Keep it up Schizolifter, your next up, look at how fast you're growing brother☦
This truly is the best rivalry in bodybuilding
It isn’t fake like the rest
And he was strong!
I wish Mike could see the support our generation gives him. The GOAT 🐐
Mike whipped this composition they put him at 5 smh
Which...speaks volumes.
@@oDnjuMike >>>>>
Both Mike and brother Ray died of kidney problems very close together---many steroid users died from that- and Mike bragged about his steroid use, let that be a warning to those that might be tempted to use drugs.
ı am so sorry bout mike
Mike is bigger then Arnold
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah the 5 foot 8 guy was just overwhelming the 6 foot 2 oak 😂🤣😂🤣😂 good one pal good one ☝️
@@Malakai468 I mean mike had a better physique idiot he had much better legs and back Arnold really had chest and Biceps that’s about it
@@Malakai468 If you genuinely beloved I thought mentzor was taller then Arnold your an absolute idiot
@@Malakai468thats genetic. different thing with muscle.
@@Malakai468bro he scared arnold
Mike.
this edit is just godly ngl, the shot where arnold and mentzer were side by side looking at each others direction was just perfect showcase of their rivalry
Mike would have started a revolution if he had won the 80s Olympia just once even.RIP the einstein of bodybuilding
I don’t care what anyone says I support Arnold no matter what he’s the reason why I love bodybuilding and getting a gym membership was the best decision favor I did myself
Arnold the bodybuilding may have inspired people...but Arnold the man...is very lacking and very small inside.
By Arnold's own admission he was "full of beans" back in his body building days. Like many young people. He certainly holds no record for that. Who can honestly look back on their younger days and say they never messed up?
Bro this edit is fcking great!
Mike who??....It doesn't matter!
You realize after Arnold and him spoke in private, he praised Arnold saying he was the greatest bodybuilder ever. This recording was clearly before they settled their differences.
Arnold wins!
Mike Mentzer died of roid abuse while Arnold went on to mega success in film and politics. Neither were too good when it came to relationships. Arnold could not keep it in his pants, and Mike sacrificed marriage and family on the alter of the almighty roid bod.
Pathetic!
Uncrowned King
Poor audio and video quality with a stupid background music that wants to be in the foreground.
Arnold schwarzenegger critiquait Mike sur son ventre il disait que Mike était enceinte, moi de mon côté j aurai critique d arnold de flamant rose🦩 car les jambes chez arnold étaient son point faible.....
Arnold was brought back in to booster his then failing movie career. The fix was in and it ruined many years of hard work for others. 😮 He was despised in the bodybuilding world there after.
Horrible audio and no context. 👎
I hated it when Nazis benched a lot, and then oiled up and flexed. Worst part of WW2 for me.
he totally mogged him
make a longer edit with this legend pls
GOAT FOR SURE
Arnold has more money lol
edit goes hard!!!
Gay club music
Macho goooof
steroids
remember me when you pop off schizo🥺
MIKE MENTZERIN HAVASI, SCHWARZENEGGER SAHNEYE CIKANA KADARDIR🤣😂
Mike my foot 👟
Карлик?
Song ?
Great Video who is the artist behind the music?
Does anyone know? (please)
@@astrokhd4953moondeity one chance
One chance is the name of the song
Integrity versus arrogance...Arnold became the star....mentzer became the legend.
Arnold’s physique was a 10.
Hahaha!
-10
0:23 Mike blows Arnie out the water legs/abs. Even with the old footage you can see Arnie had no back/legs and looked flat.
1974 may change your opinion
Where can i see the photage that shows Mike on the double biceps??
Mike.. who?
Arnold got who pregnant and the wife left him?
could we just hear Mikes's words without the background noise?
Mike should have won twice.He got screwed because he didn’t kiss ass
Did you use my edit audio for this?
La realidad es que a Miki...le robaron el Olimpia...pasa en muchos deportes lamentablemente....y no va a cambiar.
Mike should have beaten Arnold in 1980 maybe. But he was never iconic Arnold.
NAME song??
moondeity - one chance (slowed"
Mas quem foi governador na Califórnia. E fez uns filmes por aí? Quem? Nem estadunidenses o cara não é. Fez Conan. Mais uma dica vamos ver quem acerta!!! Em um de seus filmes contracenou com danny devito.!!!!!
Mas o mike é bem musculoso
Who cares?
Mike who?
Arnold got who pregnant?
Didn't Mike say they needed to start drug testing the judges?
Evertbody ask youself a question.
Would Arnold come out of retirement and risk his PERFECT record of wins in every Olympia he competed in?
I doubt it.
But if Arnold could get the judges to rig the contest in his favor then he could easily come out of retirement without having to risk his perfect record of wins as the contest would already be rigged in his favor.
MENTZER should have won purely on overall muscle separation throughout the ENTIRE body.
Why is Mike Mentzer always talkin on the phone
O cara nao tem caixa torax, peitoral maior, nem bicibe maior que do Arnold, desculpa de perdedor.
Arnold knew the Secret, the "Law of Attraction"...Say what you want but Arnold had total confidence that was not to be confused with ego...Okay, maybe a little ego...
What did Mentzer mean when he said “I was surprised when Arnold sat down.”? What was he talking about?
All these seemingly powerful guys never ever settling it out like m e n. In a 1 vs man battle :) Ken Waller is a positive exception. If someone messed with him he stopped it, quickly at that. Even with ... ... did not train at Gold`s Gym for 3-4 months after Ken took not nicely to the i8ntrigaht tirades... Ken is way more impressive. He even was a real life debt collector in his 70 s(!!!???) and a Private Investigator.
While he was rubbing the oil in and looking at himself in the mirror, Arnie left him miles behind! Promotions, PR, books, films the list is endless.
Mike made Scrawnynegger look deformed