TurboGrafx-16: A Personal History

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  • @electronjunkie5697
    @electronjunkie5697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The system had so many pure gems and it is by far my favorite retro system! The biggest problem I remember as a kid was that everything in the TG-16 required an addon or upgrade to access the best games... (Tap, booster, CD Add-On, System Card) and as a kid with limited income it was frustrating.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the add-on business strategy was indeed frustrating, and it was more egregious than the Sega "tower of power," because many of the TG-16 add-ons were only providing basic functionality (a/v connections, multiplayer, etc.).

  • @Rhiannon0423
    @Rhiannon0423 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love the TurboGrafx since it launched in august 89,and its still my favorite console.I have 3 of them and one is complete in the box.All I need is the cd rom in the box and ill have a complete set.I just have to hit the lottery for Magical Chase lol

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sending you good vibes for that lotto hit. Completing that collection would be truly awesome.

  • @ds-il7ik
    @ds-il7ik หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's nice when youtube recommends me something good like this. Great video, love your 16 bit 'turbo' kid math.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much. Glad you found and enjoyed the video.

  • @kenkooldad8900
    @kenkooldad8900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful historical perspective. I grew up in the 80s and loved the NEC since day one. To this day I still have my collection and my NEC collection has expanded greatly thanks to my many travels to Japan for work or vacation with the family. Keep up the great work.

  • @jarredcombs7603
    @jarredcombs7603 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man as someone who lost most of their childhood collection it saddens me that you had to lose each collection to get a new console. I would give a lot to be able to have those actual cartridges and the memories that went along with them.

  • @daved4120
    @daved4120 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a very similar experience with the Turbo, except my parents didn't make me get rid of my old consoles. I felt a bit cheated in the first 2 or 3 years of having it, but eventually, some great games did come out for it (Neutopia, Dungeon Explorer, Soldier Blade, Devils Crush, etc). Oh, and HuCards came in 2mbit to 8mbit, and SF2 didn't require a super system or arcade card, it was a 20mbit card.

  • @shinmegamitalks
    @shinmegamitalks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was such a refreshing listen. I into the PC Engine very late. All my collector friends are older than me and all they would talk about it is how great the turbo grafx was.
    so I bought a PCE. and now it's one of my favorite consoles.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely. Once you get into PCE collecting, it will stay with you for life. My long-term (but likely unrealizable) is to learn enough Japanese to play all of the oddball games that never got and will never get fan translations. Or I'll just wait for some fancy AI to do it for me in Retroarch.

  • @chfgn
    @chfgn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "What the hell did I just do" is such a familiar feeling. I never sold my NES collection for a TG16, but there were plenty of games that I spent months begging for only to finally receive them for Christmas or my birthday and realize within seconds that they were terrible and I wasn't going to like them at all.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed. The good old days where the cover art and a healthy dose of imagination could sell you on a game. And then when reality would set in, you'd play the bad games anyway because that was all that you were going to get. As much as I had that reaction with Keith Courage, I did play it frequently.

  • @JoseRivera-li8tr
    @JoseRivera-li8tr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was lucky enough to own one with the CD add on and I absolutely loved this system. The intro to Ys I &II alone blew everything else away at the time!

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are 100% correct. I remember seeing the intro to Ys at a friends house and was amazed. It probably wasn't a widespread experience, but those who saw Ys in its time tend generally found it to be incredible.

  • @NeoTurboManiac78
    @NeoTurboManiac78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for sharing your insight on your history with this system. I first got the TurboGrafx-16 as a birthday present in 1991 and I went through similar issues you did. Kids are going to gravitate to what is popular and the lack of mainstream IPs hurt the TurboGrafx. Luckily, I was able to meet other kids that owned the system as well and we traded, bought, and sold games from each other. I knew that the system was an underdog, but I gave it the support that it deserved. It had its share of titles that differed from the norm, but that is why I liked the system, as I was one that didn't always go along with my peers. I did not always believe that we should be limited to two choices, when it came to certain brands. I enjoyed the TurboChip games like Bonk, Dungeon Explorer, Blazing Lazers, and Neutopia II, but it was the CD titles (Ys, Gate of Thunder, Dungeon Explorer II, Dracula X, etc.) that made the TurboGrafx stand out to me.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey man, good to hear from you. Hope your New Year is off to a great start. I think NYC was a test market for consoles back in the day, so may be you had a greater chance of meeting others who had the system. Out in the suburbs, where I was, there was no one who had it. Perhaps I should have appreciated my uniqueness, but I mostly felt left behind, especially reading the magazines and seeing all of the games coming out that I would not be getting. Didn't have the money to import either, so I was stuck with the U.S. release schedule and no way of knowing what a special system it was in Japan. Looking back though, I am glad I got to experience this slice of gaming history.

  • @MarquisDeSang
    @MarquisDeSang 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I ordered the Analog Duo to correct the mistakes that I made many years ago :
    -1st mistake, choosing the Genesis over the TG16.
    -2nd mistake, as a late teen, I bought everything TG16 when it was in discount and sold it 6 monhts later.
    -3rd mistake, I should have bought a Neogeo-CD instead of a PS1
    -4th mistake, Should have kept my Sega Saturn.
    -5th mistakes : every f.... modern consoles.
    Keith Courage is my favorite game. In fact all the PC-Engine games do resonate more with me than the Genesis games. Also PC-Engine has 100+ shmups.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That second mistake was a killer....

  • @doomedspy
    @doomedspy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a teenager when the TG-16 and Genesis first came out. I wasn't even aware of the console release since I was only reading Nintendo Power at the time. I only discovered these new consoles when I saw them at Toy's Ur Us. The store didn't have any demo or kiosks yet, it was just the game box sample in those plastic sleeves with the purchase tickets they had. I was blown away, with the game screen shots in the back. I first noticed the TG16 and saw the alien chrush screen shots and was thinking "YOU CAN HAVE GRAPHICS LIKE THIS AT HOME!" Then I noticed Sega had a new concole was blown away as well. I wanted one of those new consoles badly. I finally leaned on getting a genesis because later they had live displays of Altered Beast and the paralax scrolling in that game blew my mind for a home console.
    That's a little funny your parent's overridden your choose of SNES to Genesis out anger that Nintendo released a new console. Given that Sega did the same thing (release the genesis even though they had the 8-bit master system).

  • @SevenCompleted
    @SevenCompleted 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your right the limitations boiled down to the hucard format, street fighter 2 was only a 20megabit cart and that was the largest on the system. I knew exactly 0 people with the CD addon but a couple of my friends had turbografx consoles and I loved playing it at their houses. I was so young at the time I just enjoyed video games period and didnt care as much about the graphics. I had my hand me down NES from my cousins at the time and my neighbor had TG16 and Sega Genesis. Playstation 1 was out already but I didnt really like it cause the games were to complex for 4 year old me. Ninja Turtles 2 on NES was my favorite game and then Blazing Lazers after that. I actually feel very blessed to have got to experience it all.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Growing up in the 90s and having access to all of those systems and being able to witness the evolution of the medium first-hand was a privilege.

    • @Superdimensional
      @Superdimensional 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Only a 20megabit cart” lol that was a ton in that day regardless of which console.

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought the TG-16 in September 1989, a month after I bought the Sega Genesis. I was pretty letdown by it. I only had the RF adapter, as the Turbo Blaster wasn't even released yet, or at least no stores in our area had received any. So the video looked terrible.. Worse than usual interference for me. I had been used to my NES having A/V cables from the very start, and included with my Deluxe (non deluxe) Set in 1985, so to not have this four years later didn't make sense to me. I only had the included Keith Courage and Victory Run (I liked Rad Racer more). So after a week of that, I returned it to Toys R Us.
    I was lucky to have been 17 in 1989, and I had been working as a paperboy since 1984, and then in _1989 I got a job at Service Merchandise (if anyone has heard of them?! Bill Cosby used to do commercials for them.. Err.. Anyway. 😩. My second job was something that my older brother and I started up. A snow removal / lawn mowing company. We had roughly 22 customers in the winter, and charged $20 per driveway. It was a well to so neighborhood, a few streets away from our own, and so they also tipped very nicely. Some of the older ladies would even invite us in and cook for us. :) They just wanted company and we made good friends with some of them.
    anyway, the advantage of having jobs that paid very nicely, well, the one snow removal job did. On a snowy day, which we seemed to have a ton of in the late 80's, early 90's, we could easily earn $500.. This is one day! This was a lot of money for a an 18 year old kid. One who lived rent free at home! ;) Their only requirement for me was that I saved at least 50% of everything I took in. Some of that money was to be used for business expenses (snow blower repairs, gas/oil refill), but the other half I used on video games, CDs, and musical keyboards.
    I saved up for the Neo•Geo, which I bought at launch on 12/18/1990. I got it for $550 w/ two sticks, and Baseball Stars Pro. I also still had our old Atari VCS, ColecoVision, and I kept my NES + 30 or so games. In 1991 I bought the SNES. With the jobs I was able to keep up with new releases for the Gen/NEO/SNES systems. It was a hell of a time to be a gamer! :) I would subscribed to all of the major VG mags, which helped me decide which games to buy.
    A few years later, in 1995, I would apply for, and get a job, at Babbage's. I certainly made good use of that employee discount card! Haha. I was actually asked by the district manager if I was using my code for any of my friends. I wasn't and I proved it with a photo of my basement, with all of the systems connected to a large 36" JVC CRT. I eventually bought the TG-16 back, and better appreciated games like Devil's Crush, Bonk ², and more. MattH

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great point about the a/v cables. It is something I noticed too when I first hooked it up, but I was too young to perhaps understand what was causing the issue. Maybe I assumed that Keith Courage just sucked and chalked up the bad RF image to the game. If I recall, at some point I did get the Turbo Blaster and that obviously cleaned things up, but I certainly didn't have it on day one. Anyway, sounds like you had an amazing gaming youth, between your snow ploughing job and then working at Babbage's!

    • @videogameobsession
      @videogameobsession 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GameEscape Oh yeah. I was all too familiar with RF interference, and it had always bugged me with the older gen systems. I was so happy to have a NES with RCA composite cables, and I thought those RF days were behind me, until I got the TG16. I didn't have that problem with the Genesis because I already had a composite cable for the SMS, which of course worked on the model 1 Genesis. I believe I ordered it directly through Sega's Team Sega Newsletter.
      I never was a huge fan of Keith Courage, even with clearer A/V hehe.. You're right about the controls. Like you, I did eventually appreciate it. (some amazing shooters on it, and I was/am, a huge fan of video pinball, so there you go).

    • @videogameobsession
      @videogameobsession 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also wanted to mention that I've been watching your channel for many years. I mainly don't comment on many videos though. Great content as always. We definitely lived through the golden age of home console gaming. I felt the 80's were the best for arcades, but it was definitely home systems in the 90's. It's always great to hear like minded views, as well as somethings I may have missed along the way. Keep up the great work, and have a great 2024. -Matt

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@videogameobsession Thanks for the kind words.

  • @orlandoturbo6431
    @orlandoturbo6431 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder if the Analogue Duo can handle a game like Street Fighter The Movie Game. It really a Supergrafx Duo.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does play Supergrafx games. I don't have any to test, but I've read it on their site and in other reviews. I don't think that Street Fighter The Movie was released for that format though. If my memory serves me correctly, the Supergrafx predated the SF movie by a few years.

    • @orlandoturbo6431
      @orlandoturbo6431 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GameEscape Somebody can always make a homebrew port of Street Fighter The Movie Game. The Supergrafx has twice the sprites as the regular PC Engine and a second background layer.

  • @Elnegro8527
    @Elnegro8527 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude they got Pang on the Turbo...

  • @danarama92
    @danarama92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The rpg in final lap twin was amazing. still have my tg16

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, it was just such a creative idea to combine the two genres back in the day.

  • @kevinmcbroom4370
    @kevinmcbroom4370 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sega beat them to the card format by years....the master system played sega my card games as well as cartridges way back in 86'

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's true. I remember those.

  • @SpectrumReviews
    @SpectrumReviews 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm new to the TG16/PCE CD gaming recently. I never had one during that era, my cousin did. I am starting to experience some of the games on Polymega. It's a neat system in terms of having 16 bit color palette, but the graphics weren't quite 16- bit. I think the audio when presented in stereo is great. My research shows all the add ons and and different versions and specific cards needed for graphics like the arcade card. Nice video.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. The add-ons were an interesting part of the system. I could imagine the expense and frustration back in the day having to buy/import the system cards and adapters- only to eke out performance that was still a notch below the best SNES titles. It took real dedication to stick with the TG16 from its 1989 launch to the dwindling days of the Duo in 1994. Still, there were some obvious gems and players who did stick with it were in some exclusive company in North America.

  • @rhythmandblues9302
    @rhythmandblues9302 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed the narrative. Thank you.

  • @surrendering2within
    @surrendering2within 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a child, i kind of had a crush on BONK 😍. I wanted to play that game so badly

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hahahaha. The game definitely had its charm.

  • @joesaiditstrue
    @joesaiditstrue 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love these kinds of videos

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! I enjoy making them.

  • @2beJT
    @2beJT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my friend's neighbor back in the day had TG16, I remember thinking as a 6 yr old that every game sucked except Bonk.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, my friends had the same reaction.

  • @swarnski8uu
    @swarnski8uu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im 37 and i had both the genesis and the snes, i never heard of turbo at the time.
    From all ive looked up, i wouldve gotten this and the turbo booster plus for the av out plus backup ram to save rpg's and such, i mightve gotten by.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could definitely have gotten by with the a lot of peripherals and some key games, but like I said in the video, I felt like I was missing out on the generation by only having this system. Now, if you had access to imports back in the day, that would have been cool.

  • @x7heDeviLx
    @x7heDeviLx 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:15 so I’ve heard this mortal Kombat story is actually untrue. The year 1994 was the last year the year they discontinued the console. 1993 was the year mk came out it was ported to every console. The truth is TG16 was already on fumes circling the drain. There is no way a popular game like mortal Kombat would make an exclusive deal with a console that was about to shutter its console division and less likely NEC would have paid up the money to obtain that license. Creative Cats does into a section about this.

  • @SnipE_mS
    @SnipE_mS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this reminds me of how NVidia won me over years ago. I was diehard ATI fan at the time (2006) so I bought the best card they had out at the time which was the Radeon X1950XTX. my friend got the NVidia 8800GTS and I was like "oh well mine is a 512-bit card with GDDR4 memory and yours is only 320-bit with GDDR3 so mine will be faster" well it wasn't I ended up getting 2 - 8800GTS cards in SLI instead and man they. ran great. SLI was another shit show though that I probably should have avoided but I really wanted my machine to be faster than my friends.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting comparison. I am sure that is how people on the AMD side of the graphics card wars today. My understanding is that even the best AMD cards can't match the ray tracing performance on Nvidia's offerings. Of course, one could always question the value of ray tracing and trading natural light reflections for framerates...but that is a different discussion.

    • @dtester
      @dtester 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always found it weird to be a fan of computer hardware brand. Although I have companies that I respect, I always look at price and performance etc.

    • @SnipE_mS
      @SnipE_mS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dtester that’s what I do now but back then I was like 18-19 so I just wanted to have the best stuff.

  • @IBEBIGRAY
    @IBEBIGRAY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Accuully over time the hu card games want from 2 mbits to 4 mbits them 8 mbits,! Then street fighter 2 was 20 mbits! Nec shot themselves in the foot by not putting mortal Kombat on the TurboGrafx! This game alone would've shown the power potential of the TurboGrafx 16! 🤦

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, Mortal Kombat on the TG-16 would have been the killer app to sell the system and a true game changer. It might have led to NEC bringing over some of the better games from Japan. Sadly, it didn't happen.

  • @kingvoxel6516
    @kingvoxel6516 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a pretty stupid rule your parents had.

    • @GameEscape
      @GameEscape  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, I think all of our parents probably had peculiarities that we only realize later in life. As much as that rule bothered me then, I can see now that they meant well. We forget that many of us came from a time when consumption was not seen as a universally positive activity, so you wanted to limit what your kids could buy and horde; you wanted to force them to make hard choices. Perhaps they had a point, as now this channel has become evidence of compulsive consumption.