Jordan Love is higher than you think in the QB pyramid right now
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- Where would Jordan Love go in a draft starting a franchise today? Maybe higher than you think. Plus why the Packers could be close to having elite LB play and be careful buying too fully into the Jeff Hafley hype; we've seen this movie before.
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By the end of the 2023-24 NFL season, Jordan Love had firmly established himself among the league’s elite quarterbacks, ranking in the top 10 for passing yards (4,159), passing touchdowns (32), Quarterback rating (62.1), and completions (372). His omission from the Pro Bowl roster was viewed by many as a significant oversight. Jordan Love’s breakthrough season has not only cemented his position as the Packers franchise quarterback but has also revitalized the team’s aspirations for championship glory. The experience and promise he has shown draw parallels to the early days of Aaron Rodgers illustrious career, signaling the dawn of a new era in Green Bay. As the 2024-25 NFL season approaches, Jordan Love, together with our head coach Matt Lafluer, aims to build on the team’s impressive playoff run. Having demonstrated their capabilities against formidable teams such as the Kansas City Chiefs, Detroit Lions, Dallas Cowboys, and Los Angeles Rams, the Green Bay Packers are poised to be serious contenders in the coming years, with Jordan Love at the helmet of their ambitions. Go Pack Go 💚💚💛💛
Firmly is pretty aggressive statement. The assumption and expectation is he will replicate and be consistent, but the elite QBs of the nfl have done exactly that. Been consistent. Everyone should pump the brakes on all this overzealous labeling
@@bradm4493 I think he can EASILY replicate last seasons stats (Watson, Aaron Jones among many others were hurt atleast a portion of the year) so asking the guy to “prove” his skill is not right, he’s SHOWN HOW GREAT HE IS, GBP just HAVE TO STAY HEALTHY and we’re looking at a HOFer once again! GPG 💪🏻🙏🏼💯💚💛🧀🏈
@@wolfpack3140 it’s football. No team is going to stay healthy. It’s the teams that have the depth to overcome that win. Just don’t understand the rush to label players. There’s such a weird obsession with that in general. He’s started what 20 games? Already tossing around elite and HOFer lol. Just enjoy the process
I doubt we would have made the playoffs with Rodgers at QB last year.
And they definitely would have made playoffs if Love started in 2022.
@@williamhermann6635 Agreed
@williamhermann6635 Rodgers should have been bench after the 2 red zone debacle in the game against the Detroit Lions
Exactly
He would have been pointing fingers to an 8-9 season for sure.
On top of what you've said here, I don't think we've reached anywhere close to Jordan Love's ceiling yet. He's still young and has a lot of potential.
age does not matter. he is going into his 5th year in the same offense / staff. he has likely reached his ceiling.
@@eliottgonzalez8844 You get better by playing. Remember he had played 2 games with significant reps in games that matter in 4 years and he was doing it with rookie and 2nd year receivers. He has never lost to a team twice at this point. He is also extremely unique in the way he is able to handle pressure with the drift back back footed throws and even his coaches have had to adjust to let him go with it. His ceiling is absolutely untapped and unlimited and I think he has the work ethics and smarts to take him there. We'll see but I'd bet on him.
@@natejeppsen3958 you have to understand that 2nd half of the season he practically played as good as you can play QB . even Mahomes has failed to reach his 2nd season level of play. yeah he has been elite but that 2nd season hasnt come close.
Love last year will ever be his peak or close too it either way.
@@eliottgonzalez8844 That's because of the weapons he had. Hill and Hunt were amazing talents.
@@eliottgonzalez8844 If you've ever coordinated and broke down offenses and qbs you always crave the 2nd time around. Well not always..lol. But in Love's case he has been the 1 to break defenses down and dominate the 2nd time around. I've watched Love through good and bad situations since he was a freshman in college. He figures things out. He's got at least 6 big weapons with complementary skill sets at receiver who just got their feet wet and he has a special skill that in that he has that almost unicorn ability to buy time by falling backwards and still able to deliver with velocity and accuracy. Love is a nightmare to defend right now because of the variety of his weapons, his savviness, and his ability to beat you even when you have great initial coverage and get a good pass rush. In college, I always felt like the teams that could rattle Jordan were teams that could get to him fast with 4 guys and play cover 2 and cover 3 man over the top, jamming his receivers to confuse his first read, and also mix in variations of disguised zones to put LBs and safeties in throwing lanes he didn't anticipate. He usually scorched blitzes. That doesn't work any more and he's a nightmare to scheme against. I have thought about exactly what you are saying about how I would try and approach Jordan as a D coordinator to slow him down. The best example I could think of was the last Vikings game who threw the kitchen sink at him with a myriad of stunts, blitzes, and disguised coverages and he ate them for lunch. The 49ers did the best job with their loaded d-line and more aggressive base defense and he gave them a couple of gifts on unforced errors including his last knucklehead throw, and the 49ers had a considerable amount of luck in situations out of Jordan's control to win that game. Sophomore slump can be a real thing as coordinators scheme but its often based on subtle roster changes, injuries, exc. and is not as common as we think. The salary cap in the NFL will always impact up and down success in cases like Mahomes who has had to deal with varying levels of skill players around him. Crazy thing is Green Bay's offense won't have that issue for at least 3 years. Gonna be interesting.
Quay will take a bigger step this year under JH defense. Joe Barry didn’t use him right, JH knows he’s a DAWG! This defense will be top 5!
We do not need two seasons to know about Hafley. We WILL know right away whether or not Hafley is a difference-maker. Look at the difference in the Browns defense last year because of Schwartz. Flores both in Miami and in Minnesota. DeMeco Ryans in Texas. Heck, the Bears made a change in the middle of the season last year and it made all the difference and all of a sudden they gave the Lions all kinds of hell. A very good DC makes a difference right away.
With that said it still will take the players a season to adjust to the scheme.
It might take 2 years to get the players on his side
The case for Hafley is that hes running a defense that fits what their players actually do well. Virtually the entire defense fits the 4-3 cover 3/cover 1 defense Hafley knows from working under Robert Saleh with 49ers.
Not necessarily. Cleveland was a great defense last year so that example works, but the others are middle of the road. Brian Flores helped the Vikings D be no better than Joe Barry’s D. Hafley needs to make this unit top 10 in all the important categories and that’s no sure thing or an easy task
Look Peter you will never ever take Justin Herbert over Jordan love Jordan love is a transcendent talent that we are just seeing it’s like Bambi walking for the first time, but yet he is a lion running!!! we are watching greatness and you know it Peter!! Go Pack Go!
I'm so ready for the season to start. Go Pack Go 💚 💛
By the end of this upcoming season, Love will be a top 2 QB in the nfl! 💯
Any time I hear “VERY” unique it drives me nuts. How can anything be “VERY” one-of-a-kind. Happy I can get that off my chest
Quay Walker finished with I believe 15 tackles less than warner. So not sure why you do not think he is solid
Probably because he’s never been graded as even average yet. He’s getting PFF grades in the 50s, other grading systems similar of average at best. Quay is probably the most overrated player according to fan perception amongst packers fans. All that being said, hopefully year 3 and the new DC and it can click for him.
Quay's issue is discipline and getting more football savvy. Anyone who judges MLBs by tackles is missing a lot. He had a terrible D coordinator his first 2 years and its probable that was a huge part of his struggles. He could be a breakout guy in this new scheme that will use his skill set and athleticism correctly. He's a man among boys when you watch him and if that can be harnessed and utilized he'll take a big jump.
Name a QB better than Love anyone, objectively. After last year, you can't 💚💛
only one who one could think, got outplayed by Jordan twice in 3 years
Id still take Mahomes but thats the entire list.
I didn’t like Joe Barry’s defense from the get go his “scheme” was terrible 3rd and 6 he’s playing people 10 yards off the ball SMH
@@williamhermann6635I used too
Then he failed to play better than Jordan each time they faces eachother
@@Captainkebbles1392 Mahomes struggles against the quarters defense for whatever reason. Nonetheless, 3 super bowl rings, 4 super bowl appearances, and making the conference championship every year hes been a starter is tough to ignore. Dude's the GOAT. He's everything we all hoped Rodgers would be.
I think Love has the potential to be Mahome's like in his own unique style of play, but Mahome's ups his game to next level when it counts in the playoffs. Love can be that good and out of all of the pretenders trying to unseat Mahomes he has more potential to do it than anyone...but that's a tall tall order.
As a Packers fan and as a former college athlete, Quay Walker is an amazing Linebacker, I think he’s definitely in the top half of the league when it comes to the Mike position and adding Edgerin it’s gonna be an elite duo.
In other words, Adams was in shocked how the young Packers could play football ❤❤
Can't wait for the season to start
Every defensive player has been up and down with play quality. Considering the roster has been stacked, do you think it might have had something to do with coaching? Interesting to see how these highly drafted studs do with a coordinator that compliments their skills
I guess that's why he is s FORMER general manager. 😂😂😂😂
It's KATHY!
At least he was a gm. You're just a loser bears fan who trolls a Packer page every day of your miserable life.
Everybody becomes a former general manager.
Can't wait for season to start, GO PACK GO!
I like when the Packers went and played the Raiders and our ex player Adams was in shocked how they all who picked up a player Raiders player and carried them, and Adams was just looking at the Packers players. Holy cow Adams face look like they were good.❤❤❤❤
I think on off-season A Rod practicing plays and stuff with Jordan love what to do what not to do. I bet he’ll come better this coming year.🟩🟨🟩🟨
Great video Peter all hail Jordan
How can you say you would take Herbert over Love personally. Cmon Peter!🤦♂️
As a packers fan and Jordan Love fanboy, im taking Love over Herbert, easily. But i have to disagree with the Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson take. Those guys rn are better than Love.
Let's see in 5 yrs
Thank you
@@bradjustad3527no now
@@travisbaker2001 Yes, but I'm telling you. Love's ability to buy time by going back in the pocket and throwing rockets off his back foot is unique as it comes and really offsets that in a way that frustrates the hell out of defenses.
The Bears, I thought they were leaving to go build their own dome with the roof on it showing they can’t stand the cold 🟡🟢🟡🟢
Anthony Campanile will have these freak linebackers tackling everything in sight by the time the season starts. The whole defense is about to be unleashed. Devonte Wyatt will be a 1st team All-Pro.
How soon we forget the killer pick he threw against the 49ers with a chance to win the game. Look, Jordan has a chance to be great, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. He’s not there yet.
I think that drafting and developing a QB is the more advantageous way to go; like how the packers did it with Love. Instead of showing defenses your strengths and weaknesses as a QB, you hide all that information for years. Then when you're ready to go, you have the upper edge versus the film against you since you will be ahead of that curve. This in theory, should allow a QB to develop light years ahead of a QB who is the starter day 1 in the league.
Jordan Love can read defenses. That is what elevates him to the top of the list. Athleticism can only take you so far. If QB’s can’t read defenses then their ceiling is above average at best.
He could not possibly be higher in my rankings because my QB ranking is 1) Mahomes 2) Love 3) everyone else
Go on with the same topic with the chat room here❤❤❤
To me, Jordan Love has more upside than many of the others we talk about, including Mahommes. Time will tell I guess...
We're blaming coordinator for Lamarr play-off failures? Come on!
Young DC and younger staff that can relate to the players will make a difference. Mike P and Joe B actually didn't relate to the players
Year 2 Jordan love🔥
Love is a top 5 QB coming into next year but Let's not forget Lamar tho
When i see love i see 2 rings in our future.
The fact of the matter is jordan love struggled when the packers struggled to run the ball. Something we never saw with aaron rodgers.
That is not correct He didn't have Aaron Jones or a reliable run game for about half of that amazing second half stretch. He was also missing his #1 receiver for most of that stretch. He is the QB of the 2nd half of the season and that QB arguably was the best in the NFL in that stretch throwing only to late round and free agent 1st and 2nd year receivers, with an O-line in flux, and an injured Jones.
@natejeppsen3958 it is correct and it's not about arron Jones per say the cheifs and lions we didn't have jones but Love balled out and guess what we ran for 5 yards a carry each game
@@natejeppsen3958 it is correct
@natejeppsen3958 most of the games we lost we either didn't run the ball enough and love threw the ball a ton or we sucked on the ground
@@dustinschimmel9152 You make the mistake of including the 1st half of the year. That is not who Love or his supporting cast is. Even the Pittsburg game he only lost because Doubs ran the wrong route on the 1st 4th quarter pick. Other than that he had one bad pick and one missed against the Giants and 49ers. He probably missed a throw or too against the Bucs. Its critical to have a running game and almost every successful offense in the NFL has that element but Love proved he can get it done on his own too as good as any qb in the league.
If the Packers come out where they left off, watch out.
Herbert over Love is wilddddd
Is the other person waiting?What are you waiting on?It's three in the morning
The vids are prerecorded but he airs them "live" so there can be a live chat.
Sorry I’m talking about myself about being on topic. I am gonna stay on topic talking on Mike. It’s spelling what she wants to spell not put what I want to spell.❤❤❤
Is that one player still on the Packers roster? When is his name savage✅✅ I wish she could have a different name last name
Josh Allen all world talent with terrible decision making.
😂😂😂 Jordan loves move past A Rod
Your right walker was mediocre at best. A gutey reach for the time being.
It’s supposed to be a dong like what the Vikings have🟨🟨
But we can move on from there we don’t need him We don’t need Aaron Jones show. We can do it without him. 🏉🏉🏉 for me and I put talk about X players being with us. I’m going with my self.❤❤
Justin Herbert is not better than Love!
Do you even like the packers
😂😂😂😂🟡🟢🟡🟢lol
Okay bro i was on your boat until you brought up herbert. You must not watch chargers games but i do, and herbert has carried that team more than love ever could. Sorry
Watched a lot of Chargers ? Let's see in 5 yrs
I have I wouldn't put Herbert in that if Jim Harugh can do something with him and yes he is a bigger guy and got an a bigger him to throw let just see what he talking about and then let see Herbert do something
Love looks completely capable of carrying a team at this point. He was nothing short of spectacular over the 2nd half of the season. I've liked Herbert right from Day 1, but I don't see him doing all of the things I saw Love doing last year.
Jordan Love was a playoff winner. What was Hebert? He went 5-12, then 10-7, then 9-8, then 7-9.
@@davepeterschmidt5818no love carry the team to the Divisional round and almost won
It did get me kind of mad that and Jones left because of money then went to the Vikings because of getting more looks like he traded the Packers for the Vikings. I guess the money is greener over there than by the Packers, but I believe in the Packers that we can do it without, Aaron JOINING After we got he hundred percent Vikings now he reflects on Green Bay liked her poor not cool. What do you think of us? 🟢🟡🟢 as a team I know we can move on from him.
Get a dome like the Vikings did so don’t freeze in a cold. I can’t take the cold.🟢🟩🟢🟡
😅😅 no I don’t know who is Savage’s first name is but do we still have him? He’s a good player too. I thought the Bears were supposed to be packed up and gone. They were getting a better stadium at least that was in the top of them.🟢🟡🟢🟡
A group of young teenagers I heard trash in each other’s teams one was Alan. Someone said Allen is trash. I’m just telling you what someone told me that. 🟡🟢🟡🟢
I’m not ready for football. I am ready for football, but I’m not because snow comes with it too. . yeah they have Aaron Jones. 🟡🟢🟡