Thanks Mark, glad you liked the video. And I'm glad you liked the notepad approach too. Thanks for that feedback. I've tried a couple of different "smart pens", but I think pen and paper with hands pointing is the best for this type of video (even if it might seem a bit old fashioned). Have you checked out my other videos on iaincollings.com
When looking at the time domain by convolving the impulse response input and the low pass filter, I understand mathematically that IsI is generated as the falling period increases, but intuitively, I do not understand why the time does not increase when rising.
No, that's not the case. The ISI problem is caused by the previous symbols (ie. x(k-1), x(k-2), ... ) that are spread out/delayed, and are interfering with the measurement of the current symbol (ie. x(k) ).
Although it is true that the ISI problem is caused by the previous symbols, your video shows that in the kth time slot besides having the h(0)x(k) component there is also the ISI component which leaks into the next time slot (k+1). In order to tally with the diagram, your expression should be h(0)x(k) + h(1)x(k+1). You may want to watch your video to understand my saying.
I have watched my video again (as you suggested - although I don't know if you were being sarcastic) and there is no error in my video. You are not correct in what you say about the equation. Energy from x_k appears in measurements y_k and y_(k+1). This means that the equation for y_k will include x_k and x_(k-1). This is exactly what I show in the video.
Well yes, if the symbol duration is less than the delay spread, then there will be ISI. But it doesn't have to be that extreme for ISI to have an effect. ISI happens whenever there is delay spread (as I point out in the video). The greater the spread, the greater the ISI.
There's a lot to explain. You might find the following videos helpful: "What is a Baseband Equivalent Signal in Communications?" th-cam.com/video/etZARaMNN2s/w-d-xo.html and "What is a Constellation Diagram?" th-cam.com/video/kfJeL4LQ43s/w-d-xo.html
Sir, I have a question. You have said that in a wireless channel when an impulse is given at the input, the impulse arrives at the receiver with different amplitudes due to multiple paths. Is it assumed that wireless channel has no impulse response of its own?
It's not clear what you are asking. The "wireless channel" is the combination of all the multiple paths. If you are referring to the Line-of-Sight component, then it arrives at the receiver with a certain gain (due to the antenna gains of the transmitter and receiver, and also the distance between them) and it also has a certain phase (due to the distance between them, and the phase offset of the oscillators in the transmitter and receiver). This is also the case for all the other paths too, except that they are also affected by the absorption/reflection coefficient of the object they "bounce" off.
@@iain_explains Thank you for the clarification sir. Upto this point, I was thinking that wireless channel will also have some kind of channel response similar to the one you have shown for a bandlimited channel.
the impulse responce of the system is "impulse" suggests that its treating all the frequencies equally (as the nature is equal for all of us the same thing is with frequencies) as when you observe the impulse in frequency domain its a constant line which means what ever signal you are sending you will recieve it at receiver untill and unless there is complete attenuation of signal
but intersymbol interference is between two different symbols why you are considering two different copies of the same signal how can same copies of the same symbol cause interference to each other??
The first "copy" of the transmitted signal will align with the correct symbol timing at the receiver (since the receiver will have done its "timing recovery" based on the earliest "copy" of the signal to arrive). The delayed "second copy" will then arrive with at least some of its duration falling into the next "receive symbol period" (since it arrives after the first copy, it also ends after the first copy ends, by which time the first copy of the next symbol will have already arrived), therefore causing ISI to the next symbol.
Thanks for letting me know. I made this video over two years ago, and since then I've bought a proper microphone, so the audio on my more recent videos is better. Unfortunately there's nothing that can be done about videos that are already on the channel.
Don’t stop making telecommunications understandable and easy! You are making a big difference!! Keep going
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So much better than my lecturer explaining this in broken english
Very well explained.
Iain's voice is well modulated and has a soothing quality which helps with the absorption of info.
P.S. - I like the notepad technique also - simple!
Thanks Mark, glad you liked the video. And I'm glad you liked the notepad approach too. Thanks for that feedback. I've tried a couple of different "smart pens", but I think pen and paper with hands pointing is the best for this type of video (even if it might seem a bit old fashioned). Have you checked out my other videos on iaincollings.com
I'm so glad I came across this video. Thanks for the awesome explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
Damn, one hour of class explained in 9 mins (or 4.5 mins since I watch at 2x speed haha)
Thank you Ian :)
Glad I've been able to help.
Mr Iain, you're an amazing educator.
That's so nice of you to say. I'm glad you like the videos.
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Simple and sufficient explanation Thank u
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Thank you very much Iain, a lovely explanantion of a complex subject.
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Sir thank you for this well explained video series.
You are most welcome
When looking at the time domain by convolving the impulse response input and the low pass filter, I understand mathematically that IsI is generated as the falling period increases, but intuitively, I do not understand why the time does not increase when rising.
Great thanks
You are welcome
It was perfect...Liked the way you explained the concepts
Glad you found it helpful. For more videos, I've got a full categorised list at: iaincollings.com
thanks!
you saved my time thanks sir
Thanks a lot! Great Video!
Thank you sir. You were very helpful!!!
Glad it helped!
does we also use matched filter in case of wired communication ?
Yes.
In general the concept is clear; however, the ISI part probably should be expressed as x(k+1) instead of x(k-1).
No, that's not the case. The ISI problem is caused by the previous symbols (ie. x(k-1), x(k-2), ... ) that are spread out/delayed, and are interfering with the measurement of the current symbol (ie. x(k) ).
Although it is true that the ISI problem is caused by the previous symbols, your video shows that in the kth time slot besides having the h(0)x(k) component there is also the ISI component which leaks into the next time slot (k+1). In order to tally with the diagram, your expression should be h(0)x(k) + h(1)x(k+1). You may want to watch your video to understand my saying.
I have watched my video again (as you suggested - although I don't know if you were being sarcastic) and there is no error in my video. You are not correct in what you say about the equation. Energy from x_k appears in measurements y_k and y_(k+1). This means that the equation for y_k will include x_k and x_(k-1). This is exactly what I show in the video.
thank you
You're welcome. You might like to check out this webpage for a complete list of videos: iaincollings.com
hello professor the condition for ISI is that the symbol duration should be less than the delay spread (Ts
Well yes, if the symbol duration is less than the delay spread, then there will be ISI. But it doesn't have to be that extreme for ISI to have an effect. ISI happens whenever there is delay spread (as I point out in the video). The greater the spread, the greater the ISI.
hello lian ,
why the channel cofficient h we taken for wireless channel is complex in nature any intutions behind it ??
There's a lot to explain. You might find the following videos helpful: "What is a Baseband Equivalent Signal in Communications?" th-cam.com/video/etZARaMNN2s/w-d-xo.html and "What is a Constellation Diagram?" th-cam.com/video/kfJeL4LQ43s/w-d-xo.html
Sir, I have a question. You have said that in a wireless channel when an impulse is given at the input, the impulse arrives at the receiver with different amplitudes due to multiple paths. Is it assumed that wireless channel has no impulse response of its own?
It's not clear what you are asking. The "wireless channel" is the combination of all the multiple paths. If you are referring to the Line-of-Sight component, then it arrives at the receiver with a certain gain (due to the antenna gains of the transmitter and receiver, and also the distance between them) and it also has a certain phase (due to the distance between them, and the phase offset of the oscillators in the transmitter and receiver). This is also the case for all the other paths too, except that they are also affected by the absorption/reflection coefficient of the object they "bounce" off.
@@iain_explains Thank you for the clarification sir. Upto this point, I was thinking that wireless channel will also have some kind of channel response similar to the one you have shown for a bandlimited channel.
the impulse responce of the system is "impulse" suggests that its treating all the frequencies equally (as the nature is equal for all of us the same thing is with frequencies) as when you observe the impulse in frequency domain its a constant line which means what ever signal you are sending you will recieve it at receiver untill and unless there is complete attenuation of signal
but intersymbol interference is between two different symbols why you are considering two different copies of the same signal how can same copies of the same symbol cause interference to each other??
The first "copy" of the transmitted signal will align with the correct symbol timing at the receiver (since the receiver will have done its "timing recovery" based on the earliest "copy" of the signal to arrive). The delayed "second copy" will then arrive with at least some of its duration falling into the next "receive symbol period" (since it arrives after the first copy, it also ends after the first copy ends, by which time the first copy of the next symbol will have already arrived), therefore causing ISI to the next symbol.
You didn't feel great during filming this video? Your voice seems smaller than usual. I hope you are okay now!
I made that video 4 years ago, before I bought a better microphone. Thanks for your concern, but yes, I'm OK. 😁
sound was very low have to max out my bluetooth speaker to listen at decent level.
Thanks for letting me know. I made this video over two years ago, and since then I've bought a proper microphone, so the audio on my more recent videos is better. Unfortunately there's nothing that can be done about videos that are already on the channel.
Sub from me and bell is on, thank you sir for great video series!
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