The MOST Even-Handed Take On The Asmongold Situation You Will EVER Find

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  • @capcorgiTV
    @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What do you think about this situation? Do you think Asmon is being piled-on? Do you think my take is an even handed one?
    Let me know YOUR thoughts in the comments below!

    • @Nonzerotonin
      @Nonzerotonin หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has a point but he's saying it in the worst way possible. Being against religious violence is a good thing to be. Being a defender of genocides, by or on any group of people (which is what he explicitly said) is not. That said, it does seem like he's been pushed to this point by denials of Hamas's (or, more broadly, the actions and support of actions by religious extremists) wrongdoings by vocal minorities online, which make his outburst not okay, but understandable.
      World needs to get back to "love thy neighbor," man. This vitriol we all spit at each other has cost us too many lives, and makes us into monsters.

  • @robf4605
    @robf4605 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The only thing he did wrong is apologize. Other than partnering with weak people who threw him out for speaking honestly.

    • @MSDGAMEZ
      @MSDGAMEZ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. The one time asmon wasnt a fence sitter he apologizes. Btw. Have yall watched footage of oct. 7th?

    • @robf4605
      @robf4605 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MSDGAMEZ what do you mean? Oct 7th

    • @elenexxenele8443
      @elenexxenele8443 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol this 14 yr old. Can't wait for you to learn how the world really works

    • @robf4605
      @robf4605 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @elenexxenele8443 id bother but you'll either grow up. Or you won't.

  • @nates7390
    @nates7390 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    very happy you covered this fairly!
    11/10 take tbh, i hope this video gets the views its deserves.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you tons for the kind words and wishes, I appreciate it a lot, and I'll always be authentic in all I put out to you.

  • @dixiewexworth3219
    @dixiewexworth3219 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thanks for the video. My thinking on this generally aligns with Asmongold initial post, though maybe a tiny bit less extreme. I think the biggest disconnect here comes to scales. Islam critics tend to think 99% of Muslims hold crazy backwards beliefs and opinions regardless of where they live, and support terrorism if they aren't one themselves. Islam defenders like you seem to think its 1-10% of bad apples that think that way and claim the rest of the Islamic world hates those bad actors. However whenever polling from the region comes out there is always 40-70 percent agreement from the population for the terrorists of their region, or the craziest aspects of Sharia law. Non-Islamophobic real news sites often publish polling showing 40% support for suicide bombings in certain countries or 2/3's support of October 7th by Palestinians...ect. I feel like you might be mistaking the scale of support and not taking into account the differences in attitudes between western muslims and non-western muslims, which is making me resist believing you.

    • @penezu
      @penezu หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks, saved me 90minutes of waste

  • @AzNoRaRe
    @AzNoRaRe หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Someone who didn't yell for his head!?
    And someone who is basically as normal as possible about the whole situation?!
    Freakin wild 😮

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sadly actually "wild" these days, indeed haha
      Thank you for the kind words and wishes, I'll always do my best!

  • @praetoriancorps
    @praetoriancorps หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like your take. It has some overlap with some of the things I've been thinking about aswell. been trying to write it down.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate your kind comment and awesome words, would love to see if you do end up writing it down! feel free to share!

  • @boringangryloser
    @boringangryloser หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You’re full of shit when you say that the base Muslim experience is to hate terrorists. Why do so many of them chant death to America while on American soil? Or death to Canada while on Canadian soil? Why is it that I see so many videos of Muslims refusing to condemn Hamas, even when they live in the west? Why is it that they try to implement Sharia law everywhere they go? These aren’t just terrorist groups, this is the majority of Muslims. And if you were fighting terrorists in your own countries then why did they take over two of them recently? Afghanistan and Palestine are both lead by terrorist organizations.
    Also, a “genocide on both sides” is called war. Stop using the word genocide. Israel is not indiscriminately killing civilians.
    Lastly, demonizing people in positions of power is how we ended up with Hitler, and it’s how we ended up with the Berlin Wall. If you demonize those with power, you are making it so that no one strives for power. If you punish the successful, we as a society will collapse. This is not only common sense, this is a story as old as stories themselves.

    • @shiroikin
      @shiroikin หลายเดือนก่อน

      At the same time you will see Americans constantly yell death to just about anyone who disagrees with them including other americans.

    • @shiroikin
      @shiroikin หลายเดือนก่อน

      And isreal has killed over 14000 innocent children so you can't tell me they are not indiscriminately killing innocent people.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Someone didn't pay enough attention to the video... lmfao, you're certainly living up to your name.
      You do realize shit rises to the top on Social media right? Case in point, your comment. In reality, there are well over 1 billion muslims and moderate takes (which is the vast majority) don't generate clicks. That's a huge part of my point. The other part is the media needs you to be angry for you to be controllable. Stop falling for it. There's a reason for the term "vocal minority". The extremist voices are elevated in media for this very reason.
      You also have no idea what the base Muslim experience is, because from the way you talk, you don't know a single one of them.
      Afganistan and Palestine are both examples of extremists taking over the government, again, very much a very clear point I make in the actual video.
      Lastly, I didn't demonize people in power. I clearly talked about how you have to hold them accountable, and the fact they are not, is why we have so many of the problems we have today.
      Be racist again and you get banned, freak.

    • @boringangryloser
      @boringangryloser หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@capcorgiTV Even if it's only a small percent, 1 percent of 2 billion is still 20 MILLION terrorists. Islam is a breeding ground for terrorists- the religion is embedded with violence and the subjugation of those deemed outsiders. And terrorism is just ONE of the atrocities that the Quran and the Hadith continue to inspire to this day.

  • @dl1987
    @dl1987 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    waddup Corgi, dont know if you remember me, im Jack from your Twitch chat, I wish i couldve been watching more of your live stuff but youre getting online like 3am at my local time lol, but ive watched your TOS video enterily and loved this one aswell.
    But even now I still dont quite understand what happened to Asmon in that day, he was fine, wasnt being general at all at the begining but then something happened and he stopped being specific talking about how bad it is the stuff that the extremist groups do, and started to be broad to the point of including all the civilians that lives there. Maybe he got too emotional/angry? Not trying to justify his words, but me personally i just cannot be a good debater while emotional.
    Anyways, im sorry for the bad stuff you have gone through since 9.11, but im glad no matter what you keep doing good content.
    Ill be here watching as you grow my man, you deserve it, cheers!

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the awesome comment friend!! Sorry about my timing change I absolutely get that you can't make it at that time haha, but I do promise I do someday-time streams too! Awesome to see you anytime :) and regardless of making it to the live-streams, I will always put up the videos that I can right here!
      I appreciate the insight as well about him that day, I did not watch his live stream as I work during the day so I don't know what happened beforehand. I did also cover his own full video response though so if you'd like, please find it here: th-cam.com/video/XX_1tgeqNNk/w-d-xo.html

  • @brianmcdermott2525
    @brianmcdermott2525 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good take, my only push back is polling over the last decade in gaza showed support for radical things like the genocide of jewish population( not a attempt to justify Israeli government continued actions). Also the U.S didn't supply gaza with weapons, but did give 100s million that was atleast supposed to help in development, but did fund weapon purchases mostly russian and Iranian. If im wrong let me know?

  • @daarya
    @daarya หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful take and refreshing to hear, keep it up

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you SO much for the kind words and comment!!! I always will :) I mostly cover gaming content so I hope you enjoy it here friend!

  • @vawkwardbat
    @vawkwardbat หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rare to see. Love this take.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for the kind words friend!! I'm so glad you appreciated the video and hope to see you in the next one!

  • @WooShin-s2b
    @WooShin-s2b หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whenever I see highly logical arguments, I subscribe. Really enjoyed this take.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it a ton! I'll always give my even and authentic take in all things :) and like I said, I mostly just talk fun gaming (and special rants on the worst of gaming of COURSE)!
      Any particular games you enjoy?

  • @JakeSanchis
    @JakeSanchis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i gotta give a sub man, great take

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the kind words, I super appreciate it and the sub! I mostly cover gaming and gaming news so I hope you enjoy!! :) welcome to the community friend

  • @Frauddd_
    @Frauddd_ หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think your take is very even-handed and I like that you reacted to this as factually as you could.
    Edit: I also fully agree with you on the UN take.

  • @30McKinney
    @30McKinney หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I started smiling after you laid into the bad comment and for like a minute after cuz ironically it sounded just like asmond

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMAO I mean I've learned I have to deal with *real* toxicity very firmly and completely. I aprpeciate your kind comment thank you and hope to see you in future videos!

  • @swirlingvortex09
    @swirlingvortex09 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The most humanitarian of takes ever, 😊.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always try to be as fair as possible!
      Thank you for the kind words and glad you enjoyed the video! Hope to see you in the next one!

  • @praetoriancorps
    @praetoriancorps หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21:10 that has been the root of the problem troughout history. Its in many ways nonthing new.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh absolutely. Funny part is anyone who actually looks into it realizes the same too, no matter what part of the political spectrum they are on lol

  • @elenexxenele8443
    @elenexxenele8443 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being an ex dr disrespect fan dont 'need to admit we were wrong.' Its not our position to judge whether the person is good or not. He messed up- theres nothing for old fans to admit

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      the "he messed up" part is what I mean. A lot of his fans still cannot even state that. Sorry for the confusion, I am talking very free-flowing here as you can tell so sometimes details get missed.

  • @fuzzypanda2804
    @fuzzypanda2804 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your the first person I've seen in this situation talk about hamas and know he is talking about the culture that hamas has created there in palastine. People keep shying away from talking about hamas like it's Voldemort.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you. I prefer drag the desperate shadows in to the light where it belongs. I've always found any coversation to only be elevated in that way.

  • @TibiConstantine
    @TibiConstantine หลายเดือนก่อน

    That apology was a big mistake. He didn't say anything wrong, maybe some poor choice of words but bottom line: he is an American, he feels the way he feel about giving money to resolve the conflict of other countries while there are many poor people in America, veterans who are disrespected by the government, homeless people. It's his right not to give a f about other countries. How is he wrong?

  • @shiroikin
    @shiroikin หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your take on this. I agree that asmongold over generalized hamas as being all of Palestine.

  • @WTP_1776
    @WTP_1776 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it is not wrong to have a strong in group preference. its natural human psychology. it does not make you racist. dont let people shame you for feeling this.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having a preference for someone or something isn't the same as calling an entire large group of people "inferior" lol what
      Side note, Asmon agree's with me. You can find my response to his statement here.
      th-cam.com/video/XX_1tgeqNNk/w-d-xo.html

  • @lyrilmtv2428
    @lyrilmtv2428 หลายเดือนก่อน

    unfathomably based

  • @fw420
    @fw420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    he dislikes religion and he apologized

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did showcase his apology and in fact appreciated it.

    • @fw420
      @fw420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@capcorgiTV no a dedicated video it goes indepth

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fw420 An apology video? I'll look at it, thank you for the information. I've been working all day so I've not seen it.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fw420 I covered the apology video in depth, it was a very powerful video for sure.
      If you'd like to see my take, it's here: th-cam.com/video/XX_1tgeqNNk/w-d-xo.html

  • @elenexxenele8443
    @elenexxenele8443 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats "dieing on moss"? :p

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dieing en masse means in high numbers, sorry for the confusion. I try to not use too complicated of language in videos like these but sometimes I do forget :) hope you enjoyed the rest of the video!

  • @arkitecwashere
    @arkitecwashere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Somehow gained power"
    Didnt they get voted in? Am I missing some key info?

    • @Fieryxjoe
      @Fieryxjoe หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      19 years ago. The average age in gaza is below 18. People didn't really know who they were at the time they painted themselves as a humanitarian aid group. There have been no elections since they came to power and half of gazans weren't even alive let alone of voting age when they were voted in.
      On the other hand polling in the West Bank shows if Hamas was allowed to run for elections there they would be winning in a landslide. So there is some solid evidence they'd be in power in Gaza even if there were fair elections.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      2 words to add on to Joe's good comment as well: Arab Spring.
      It screwed over the entirety of several countries by installing the most violent groups at head positions.
      Beyond that to Joe's specific comment, those did vote for Hamas did so out of fear mostly. Fear for their on lives at the violent group itself, but also fear for their lives at the hands of, in this case, Isreal who had launched countless other attacks. Rational thinking goes out the window when it comes to a double edged fear for yours and your loved ones' safety.
      Technically yes, they were "voted" in, but it's a very loose term considering the VERY complicated context.
      I appreciate the question, and happy to answer in any way I can :)

  • @illjam9695
    @illjam9695 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chilli dog

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depending on the chili, it's great.

  • @Ziplipuk
    @Ziplipuk หลายเดือนก่อน

    Time to farm the baldy aye?

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you watch this video, and you still think I'm farming instead of giving a balanced take that is not sensationalist on either side, let me know. I genuinely think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

  • @Patrick-fo9he
    @Patrick-fo9he หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to witch of your video mate for your opinion. When you say m a gamer I’m content creator and I’m Muslim. So I know more then most people, bet you don’t lol what do them things give you more knolls ehahhah

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't understand your comment, could you try grammer this time?

  • @elderscrolls8442
    @elderscrolls8442 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:10

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?

    • @elderscrolls8442
      @elderscrolls8442 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@capcorgiTV Bookmarked truths to show ppl later in video form and irl. You'd be surprised how many are unaware they're supporting such atrocities indirectly or unaware of how severe and evil sht really is out there on a massive scale, orchestrated by 'trustworthy' companies. 1-20% vs the 80.
      “We will have peace in the Middle East when we love our children more than we hate our enemies.” This applies worldwide.

    • @elderscrolls8442
      @elderscrolls8442 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@capcorgiTV Btw if you're interested in unreal insane truths most arent aware of, the video 'area 51 and the geography of a secret' by 'we're in hell' is mind blowing and eye opening to how sht really works and who runs sht. Receipts included for everything

    • @elderscrolls8442
      @elderscrolls8442 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@capcorgiTV Wow my 1st reply was removed by yt, guessing bcuz it included specifics as to why i bookmarked that timestamp, smh. General answer, i want more people to know the truth about the evil ish they are indirectly supporting../:

    • @elderscrolls8442
      @elderscrolls8442 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@capcorgiTV “We will have peace in the Middle East when we love our children more than we hate our enemies.” Applies worldwide and should be the forethought of every decision we make on a global scale

  • @kkirT
    @kkirT หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You're beyond wrong on the munitions used. We know exactly which weapons Israel uses, none of them are "big bombs that don't target specific sites". They are using guided munitions on a preponderance of the military objectives vs risk of collateral damage. This evaluation is done per strike and they have openly admitted where they have using incorrect ordnance for the task. The amount of bombs they have dropped would have killed everyone in Gaza hundreds of times over when you consider they have dropped more than ten times the yield of the atom bombs dropped on Japan during WWII. This is why nobody trusts the analysis you make of your own side, it's always trying to justify terrorism by saying "both sides".

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's so wild how vitriolic people like you get when I state the take "genocide of innocents happening on BOTH sides is just bad".
      www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/more-women-and-children-killed-gaza-israeli-military-any-other-recent-conflict

    • @siriuscogburn
      @siriuscogburn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      beyond wrong :o

    • @kkirT
      @kkirT หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siriuscogburn Can you name which unguided munitions Israel is using?

    • @siriuscogburn
      @siriuscogburn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kkirT can you name all members of the kardashian family?

    • @kkirT
      @kkirT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@capcorgiTV But the Israeli action to rescue hostages isn't genocide, you're lying about which bombs they are using and you're doing this with a clear agenda to paint the attempts to free the hostages as something bad. The hostages need to be freed and Hamas should surrender.
      Israel has been investigated for genocide accusations and every international court has found that they do not live up to dolus specialis which means their actions are not genocidal. They are targeting military installations with each strike. They are using precision munitions and guided bombs with limited payloads. You are lying to benefit the terrorists for no other reason than sharing some irrelevant "identity" with them.

  • @ShroomHandler
    @ShroomHandler หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is weird seeing a normal and reasonable take on this topic. It is so tragic so few people are able nowadays to have honest conversation. Bless you, stay true to yourself and wish you good fortune mate.
    But yea i think all the schizos and extremist saw the sign to lead dog pile charge on him. But it is actually good for him he has been going on the deep end inch by inch stream by stream.

  • @GodSeed666
    @GodSeed666 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What situation he was 100% correct about Palestine and should not apologize at all

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do realize he educated himself on the actual situation since then, right?

  • @DemonicWolf0152
    @DemonicWolf0152 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the video deserves all the love it get's I understand why asmon got piled on, do I agree with it 100% no never, I don't think Muslims have ever been an issue, I do know that some of the extremists use things like the Verse of the sword, that basically says it cancels out prior teachings. obviously it wasn't I wish I had been online to listen to this and talk to you about it. as I am a big proponent of listening to other religions, mainly because I love learning about the big differences between Christianity, Islam, Catholicism , and other major religions in the world.
    also the rule is, war war never changes. we find new way's to kill each other everyday, but in the end it will not stop even when nuclear war will happen.

  • @AB-cg9np
    @AB-cg9np หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Banned for telling the truth, sad state of affairs.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't think he said the "truth" as he literally apologized for it and said he was wrong. Look at his twitter.
      Beyond that, I don't think he should have been banned either.

    • @AB-cg9np
      @AB-cg9np หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@capcorgiTV he apologised as that’s what the woke want to give his account back. Since my well being is not based on public views, I can say it and not apologise. Again, sad reality.

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@AB-cg9np You're contorting a lot here. I suggest you take his words to heart and try to figure things in your life out. This is NOT the way.

    • @elenexxenele8443
      @elenexxenele8443 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol what a sage. Some rando commentator knows the real truth guys.... clown

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@roofcake8951 You contradicted yourself in your own statement.

  • @TheRealDigitalDr
    @TheRealDigitalDr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    where is Palestine? cant find it on a map

    • @capcorgiTV
      @capcorgiTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What does this comment even imply? Spit it out.

    • @TheRealDigitalDr
      @TheRealDigitalDr หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@capcorgiTV im just not a very smart person and i try to mind my own business but i hear this word Palestine a lot and i just couldnt find it on a map

    • @Shamrock_queen98
      @Shamrock_queen98 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheRealDigitalDr same I can't find it maybe the flag is for LGBT

    • @TheRealDigitalDr
      @TheRealDigitalDr หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Shamrock_queen98 lmao

    • @rick44451
      @rick44451 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah yes. Maps dictate reality

  • @DoctorOaks
    @DoctorOaks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The comment section on Asmon's apology is wild. People in his own audience condemning him for apologizing because he's been adamant about people not apologizing.
    Those same people apparently never heard him say that he doesn't think apologies mean anything because it's actions that matter, and to many people apologize when they did nothing wrong to people who are just mad.
    This is a case where he felt he should apologize. He apologized because he believes he needs to change, and plans to do so. He told his audience to hold him accountable if he doesn't.

    • @GalcianBTH
      @GalcianBTH หลายเดือนก่อน

      They would have no issue with him apologizing if it was for something they disagreed with, they simply can not cope with him not parroting all of their internal dialog. Seeing someone who said some of the things they believe turn around and say "actually I was wrong" fills them with rage.

  • @tommos1
    @tommos1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly big ups for remaining level headed after he called your race subhuman. Best way to handle it. Acting out would only give people more ammo to say similar things.

  • @zacharypower7674
    @zacharypower7674 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Quran, much like the new and old testaments before it, contains numerous contradicting commands. They tell you not to hate, not to kill, but then they tell you who to hate and who to kill. I feel like you cannot tell anything about someone by what their religion is, but you can tell a lot about them by how they follow it. A christian can focus on "love thy neighbour" and "judge not lest ye be judged" and "thou shalt not kill", or they can focus on "Blessed the one who seizes your children and smashes them against the rocks" and "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.". We need to stop judging people by the religion they follow and start judging them on how they choose to follow whatever belief system they partake in.
    This situation is too complex for any layperson to wrap their head around and form a valid opinion on. I refuse to form a final opinion on this matter, as I lack a degree in Levantine Anthropology and sociology, and I believe both sides are equally in the wrong. I can fully see the palestinians argument of "We've been here for 1300 years, we dont even know the names of the ancestors who conquered this land and expelled it's original inhabitants. we didnt personally steal this land and we don't deserve to be kicked out". and I also see the Israeli argument of "If we're going to be unwelcome everywhere we go, we might as well be unwelcome in our ancestral home because we deserve to exist". Any two state solution to this problem seems insane to me. We need to find a one state solution that allows people of every faith to practice anywhere they want in their holy land. Any state without complete and utter freedom of religion does not deserve to control even one square inch of a land that is the origin of 3 major religions with 3 majorly different sets of practices. And for as long as people keep trying to make me choose a side, my response will always be some variant of "I'm not qualified to have a valid opinion on whats happening"
    That said. I do not believe the goal of the Palestinian authority or the Israeli Government is genocide. Genocide is when your goal is the erasure of a people or culture. Civilian casualties are part of urban war and not every civilian casualty can be called genocide. I think both sides are far too willing to pay a civilian price, but it is clear from an objective standpoint that the only group who has genocide as an actual goal is Hamas, as they have officially stated their goals to include the complete elimination of the nation of israel and the people within it. It is unfortunate but the 1999 Safe Passage agreement and 2005 Agreement on Movement and Access make it clear that the road connecting gaza to the west bank is open conditional on peace, and hamas chose to break the peace closing the road that supplies the people of gaza with food. But the inevitable and predictable consequences of a clearly laid out agreement doesn't constitute genocide as Hamas was responsible for figuring out how to supply their own people BEFORE they took actions they knew would close their primary supply route, and the palestinian authority hasn't even fired any shots at israel during this particular conflict so they definitely can't be accused of genocide or even supporting genocide at current.

    • @elenexxenele8443
      @elenexxenele8443 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'd benefit from knowing the difference between old test and new test