Fighting Swift Slash and iframes grab...
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Miyazaki’s vision, but his vision is like the Old Hero.
There is a reason DS2 has probably the most balanced PvP in the series - Miyazaki had the least to do with it lol.
@@Jedrex899 You'd think they'd mix a little of both next
Next Fromsoftware game should have PvP be its own separate group headed by the guy in charge of the balancing in DS2. Miyazaki is clearly too incompetent to properly balance his own games for PvP.
Oh, and maybe upgrade their clearly outdated net code while they're at it.
@@Jedrex899 Balanced but the mona scim is still busted and it had 4 times the patches of any other title to date. DS2 pvp was literally no better. Only DS1 was worse.
@@lloydegildner7554 nah, I duelled a lot in DS2 and I don't think I encountered a monastery scimitar user once in the past 6 years or so. The parry was nerfed fast on it.
The thing about DS2 balancing is that literally ANY weapon could be made to work fine in PvP. You had damage rings that made weak weapons do decent damage, stone ring to help break poise, useful R1 and R2s on most weapons and so on. Also - stamina was actually a thing to worry about, unlike DS3 onwards where you have dirt-cheap and spammable rolls and attacks.
Each time Jee clears his throat you know he’s getting absolutely tilted 🤬
Some kid raged at me last night for Swift Slashing his Swift Slash build in the arena I think we’re entering the final meta boys
My man
@@Rain1 only the real survive on this side of the game
The end of days more like it
I wondered what that was... I figured I'd try arena for the first time and of the three fights, one guy was spamming that dash / aoe move over and over, proccing bleed instantly and teabagging me when I died.
I decided to be productive with my time and went AFK to make myself a cup of tea. Ain't no fun, like a lot of the new weapons in PvP.
"Swift slash build"
Lol
Lmao even
Wow that first clip... the dlc certainly is a thing that exists now.
Love when they tbag because you’re shooting them with a bow just for them to get sniped mid tbag because they can’t roll for sh*t from an easy to avoid projectile
Half of the players can only press L2
I didn’t go into Elden Ring expecting 10/10 pvp but I do believe it should have higher priority given the long lasting impact it has on the active playerbase
Honestly, I fear for the future of souls games if ER is any indication of the direction they are heading. Bullet hell with absolutely busted stuff that does not even look like they belong in the same game.
Surely their next game titled spellbound won’t iterate on ER bullet hell
that's the thing. this isnt just shit balance , it's a deranged evolution of the combat system, and that's scary for the games to come
@@FedericoBagnoliniso balance aside are ER’s fundamentals bad I don’t play much so idk. Just that poise has changed a lot since launch
@@fatcoinpursewasn’t spellbound debunked?
3:15 legendary audio cut
Looked away while I was working and heard the cut 😂 funniest shit I’ve heard in a while
the slanted ground there was so fucked up
I'm dying to know what he said
@@LianleoC Something very YT unfriendly, I assume, lol
@@LianleoC Always assume it's full on n-word f-bomb rant, it's way funnier that way 😂😂
I really hate backhand crutch blade users, so many of them actually think they're doing something, not realizing their weapon is hard carrying them.
True one guy called me a rat and filth while he was using bloody backhand blades with swift slash. He did loose and disconnected at the end and thought he was good and stuff. He is trash and it doesn’t mean anything If you win some games in the arena while spamming swift slash lol
The core weapon it self is fine and actually really fun and enjoyable. It's the status builds and ash of wars that break it. Still far from the worst stuff in the game currently. At least you can counter it with specific builds meanwhile you have other stuff that can't be easily countered.
@@burns0100 Sleep shotgun crossbow... projectile heal in 1v1 arena duels... 💀
@@Zalithielbro just did my first arena match post dlc… was so excited to try rellanas swords and dryleaf arts in my first pvp since dlc. shotgun sleep crossbow twice in a row and third match was blind spot backhand blades - i just turned off my ps5 for some reason a 2 month break from pvp got me thinking it might be fun but yeah we dont do that here
i dont even get the incentive to use stuff THIS broken in general, and then even further in arenas. surely it gets boring after the second match??
Miyazaki hates invaders...
U can tell by how fast blues show up
@@XxMichaelRayxXno blues in seamless
Crazy how much of a disappointment the DLC was in terms of PvP, no covenants, no adjustment to player limit, no ping filter, At the bare minimum I expected a new colosseum map but they couldn’t even do that
yep and then they just introduced more toxic shit to get blendered by smh the pvp scene is full on brainrot im glad i retired from pvp after this dlc dropped cause the minute i saw something in pve i was like yeah that's gonna get abused here shortly
And thats why the community should be more critical about how we didn't get 6 player limit or any change to invasions matchmaking at all. I've watched some of the big content creators "Brutally honest DLC review" and none of them seems to mention anything regarding the online experience. They either don't care or gave up on talking about it
Some things are bearable when you're 1v1 but the moment you got 2-3 people using some of these stuff its basically impossible to do anything against.
Damn man i wish but this community is too divided for that to ever happen.
i mean thats not a good measure. lotta the "big" cc's got review copies 1-2 weeks before the game released, so ain't no way journalist or pve only guys have any clue how balanced pvp would be. blame From for sending chumps early copies instead of people that would actually push and test their games mechanics/weapons properly.
Nobody talks about it cause the from software games are single player,the pvp is put there like "go have fun using the most broken thing,nobody cares about it
@@FangsOfKomodo early copies are meant to be given to reviewer not playtester
That's because they don't pvp, like all
I got grabbed by that greatsword aow like 5 feet away from the enemy and it shows me getting killed by air
I think this has happened to everyone at least once since this piece of shit has dropped
Stop playing on xbox ones/ wifi
@@Shyste_p ''leave the multi-milion dolar company alone :(''
Which company would i have been defending in your interpretation? Microsoft, Fromsoft, or internet providers? @SrBlue-qp2ux
Whenever the video goes quiet. 💀
No other command grab (Lifesteal Fist and Inescapable Frenzy) hit through I-frames so this attack is hard coded to confirm on phantom hits.
its so wild how unpunishable whiffs are in this DLC, host misses the grab he has an explosion he can do so no one can run in and punish, he can just spam it as much as he wants with no risk and yet if he lands it thats over half his opponents health bar gone
The fact you can delay it too meaning it isn’t just reaction either
Don't forget the point down after.
Really this game is horrid with balance for pvp.
fromsoft needs to change the way they approach pvp development, if you're going to add pvp to a game it needs to be higher on the list of priorities or it's always going to be substandard. armored core is a series that previously had good pvp, then with their current development philosophy for multiplayer they managed to make the worst most unplayable pvp in the whole franchise because it's at the very bottom of their to-do list
Ikr a lot of pve players say well it’s a pve game, but like if your gonna have something in your game atleast attempt to do it well or don’t do it at all and they keep adding pvp so it means something.
Miyazaki was drunk when designed swift slash, true and real
4 player limit was the biggest mistake in elden ring. Hell id take a 2v4 over a 1v3 provided my teamate wasnt super bad. Especially in open world where the pve doesnt do shit, so from doesnt even have that cope that exists in legacy dungeons.
The real biggest mistake was opt in solo invasions but whatever.
@@phir9255 as a person who doesn't like sekiro as it doesn't have multiplayer, nah man
that grab is so stupid how it works even when you dodge
I like that it works on rolls. Its literally the only usable grab in the game because of it. Looks terrible, but i think fundamentally things like that are good for the souls meta, since imo, being passive is too easy and strong.
@@psyk1k986it's a blessing you don't have any say on how to balance this shit fest
@@psyk1k986 this guy is either trolling, being sarcastic or rage baiting
@@psyk1k986 youre bad
@@psyk1k986I like it too brother , sadly it’ll get patched and become useless dogshit soon
I wish they’d fix the goddamn pvp. 3 v 1 worser than all the other soul game gank moments
Empirical evidence that invaders are NOT the griefers in Elden Ring
Yeah, 9 times out of 10 the sweaty ones are the hosts and phantoms
@@brunohommerding3416 oh but don't tell redditors that they'd lose their minds lol
@@pitshoster401 "but but we are only trying to beat bosses when you assholes invade our game" says the full bullgoat wizard spamming moonveil and stars of ruin
Not to mention the fact that all the enemies are already dead...really the excuse fails when any evidence is given lmao @@brunohommerding3416
The fact the Golem is alive speaks volumes
This pvp is so trash i would love to see fromsoft example invasions. Like what do they expect one to do exactly with such odds? I know pvp was legacy in elden ring, but damn this is beyond ridiculous.
This is still better than Spread Crossbow. The lower level you try to PvP the worst it gets. Level 1-50-90-125... everyone is using it. Instant Sleep+Instant Rot+Instant Poison+Instant Bleed+Instant Frostbite... It gets boring very fast and every single person who is twinking is using it. Its not just Sleep... all the status effects are broken with that thing.
indeed this dlc fucked everything pvp wise
Bubble aromatic is pretty good to have for the grab. The first hit doesn’t break it. Although it is pretty situational.
My only hope for the future of this genre is FromSoft being proactive and incorporating known PvP players into their game design process.
ER, and Shadow of the ErdTree in particular, is the worst PvP has ever been in any game. It's truly saddening just how neglectful they're being.
Yes it blows my mind that FS doesn't do this already
3:16 the audio cutoff for so long was funny as hell
The grab should be an easily dodgeable move in theory, but because of the janky netcode, it's like borderline impossible to roll.
3:14 feeling tempted to watch the streams so i can hear what ancient voodoo mega death curses Jee utters in moments like this
If the grab box was fixed, it would be the easiest backstabs ever but you literally cannot afford to be that close to the AOW
The phantom teabagging his own premature death 4:32
Funny thing is that grab is kinda mid in PVE so its just there to be a menace in PVP, the same with the sleep status effect in PVP to be honest.
Edit: Madness and deathblight too. Deathblight isn’t strong in itself but for some reason its just there to be broken for like a few days (or month) then it just dissapears from both PVP and PVE completely.
It’s attacker side instead of defender side, (why?) this can easier be fixed btw.
@@GoToBedSheevasome ds1 backstab developer got some nostalgia😂
Surprisingly , Wild strikes works really good against swift slash.
Bone bow for those 2 lol.
In all seriousness, one of my favorite builds since vanilla has been super cancerous, and now since cancer is the norm, its ok. I regularly run max cast speed bestial sling with a 60 faith/40 dex build. Space them out and just keep poking with bestial sling with 1hrapier bhs with seal. Catch flame, massive regen, max bestial sling damage possible at 125-150. Just never engage lol. Basically like fire surge in ds3, but weaker against shields and a bit safer.
fax this dlc and players have pushed me to new lows, I love these games too much to let them rub their shit all over it
I don’t even play pvp and feel for invaders, I’m glad I taught my friends to never gank an invader when they come to our world
Miyazaki while designing this two AoW: "try finger but hole"...
When you hit him with the aoe on the arrow while he was tea bagging and then killed him almost immediately after, that was 🤌
Love your videos G
Last kill is personal from the shadow. 😂
like chat said, im gonna vomit.
Curious what everyone thinks but it seems to me that while gankers have always had poor fundamentals, in ER their fundamentals are non-existent because the gank and their setups cover every single sin. The moment one of these guys gets put under just a bit of pressure they completely fold.
The arena is full of this kinda shit recently, I’ve encountered all of the busted builds multiple times, but swift slash is by far the most common.
Sword of damnation is probably never going to get fixed
The crucible scale talisman should help, the grab is boosted by the dagger talisman so the crucible scale should also work
Edit: reduces crit damage by 30%
I find a shield with the guard boost ash of war to be good with dealing with swift slash. At least in the arena. Made someone quit the fight over it.
Don’t the after-slashes hit through blocks?
Is it the first clip of G bringing his main character into DLC? Who made him that angry?
Notice when u roll backwards even if the grab hit you and deal damage u wont get grabbed
That thing is busted in gank but on 1v1 it can be pretty reliably punished before the second part can be activated
I remember so many people were excited in the patch a day before the dlc released, a lot of things were balanced, changed, nerfed, etc
Then a day later everyone is Swift Slashing all over pvp
Since the slight nerf to swift slash happened it turns out you cannot duplicate the ash of war anymore, I wasn't able to duplicate it
@@mattyryon oh ok
perfect timing again lmao, steak n whiskey ready
Wait THE SWORD CAN GRAB YOU MIYAZAKI WHY! IM JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS 😭😭
I wanna watch this uncensored 😢
iv'e started using winged tear just so it's a bit easier to deal with these problematic AoW's
Cathartic punishing of cheese in this vid
I still find it so funny how with light hitstun weapons after hitting your opponent you no longer have priority really if they have a HA weapon. That is just such a backwards mechanic for me coming from other melee combat games
Dark souls 3 truly spoiled us and we never knew
6:50 might could have caught with some of those rr1s if you’d have free aimed down, I think. It extends the hitbox.
Flawless masterpiece btw
I've started countering them with 2 handed r2 with colossal weapons that poke. It works against the new twin axes also. They don't know how to get past it since l2 is the only button they know.
0:53 POOOOOOO 😮😮😮😮
Have you tried the golem fists? It's basically cestus you can throw
Farmed for them for like 40 minutes, so know that I really wanted to love them when i say they're absolute garbage.
Can't combo the heavies, said heavies have pitiful damage and crazy damage drop-off on the projectile, and the stamina drain on them is ludicrous.
Solid enough AR but it's only slightly higher than star fist and nearly twice as heavy.
feel like godfrey’s axe could be a counter but haven’t tried it
The grab of that spear is so janky.
All I know is "May chaos take the world"
Best defense against swift slash I’ve found is stormstomp
fight cancer with cancer
I just wish you could knock them out of the jump animation before they decend. If you could do that the sword would be more balanced imo. You can backstab them in between the land and the follow up if you manage to there quick enough though so theres that 😫
Feels like ds3 how much ive been spamming perseverance lately
is there anyone who can manage swift slash perfectly？
9:47 is caestus rr2 r2 still a true combo?
Yeah im having a pretty good time with invasions tbh
SS,blind spot,etc they’re all busted and most importantly they’re not fun to play against,at least not in their current state.
I hope the devs address this sooner rather than later.
It seems so bad 1v 1 but i can see it being annoying 3v1
Yeah insecure people cant survive outside of the sweaty op shit since they need constant compensation for their lack of skill. I cant understand how that doesnt get boring after a while but my theory is that some people are so programmed to "winning" that it surprasses everything else and if they find an easy way to do it they brain dead go for it till its nerfed or they find something even more broken.
The only saving grace is when you beat one of these sweatlords asses with a meme build and they rage like maniacs
It’s a game man 😂 shits never that deep lmao
Swift slash has got to go. I have no clue how that gets fixed. The wake it leaves behind causes major damage. It is fast. Target lock is good. It can break poise. That may be beyond repair.
Damnit people this is why why we can't have nice things.
Swift slash is gonna make me quit the game
Dude, I swear to God, Midra's greatsword is the most broken weapon in the game, you clearly dodge the weapon skill and somehow it hits you, look at the freak grab, it is not even touching you yet somehow it hit you.
That weapons need major hotfixes.
5:11 he meant that
Everytime someone does swift slash, I run away and let the game end. Idc if that sounds lame, I'm not fighting against someone who can just spam LT to avoid every attack while doing insane bleed damage to me. Shit needs to be nerfed Asap
At this point I think I preferred DS1 pvp
Hate the pvp in this game, it’s everything but fun
11:07 HOLY FUCK the PvE did not hit you... The holy grail of peak fromsoft developement
First souls game?
@@calincampbell5637 4th
i miss the old days when the best we had was a hand scythe and curved swords nothing more ,simple , now this is like a light show ... elden ring pvp was a mistake .
I just close the game when people use that grab shit too often. Like, nah. I’m not even near good enough to begin to know how to handle that garbage.
Steel posting about Sleep Crossbow being fundamentally broken, and like it is. But so is this cursed greatsword 😂
This game is so ass 😂
still watching, 2 years on
@@ni9274 just occasionally pop in to witness how broken the game is
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elden ring bro this is the pvp you guys wish for
I agréé it awfull!! In pve it s useless
Elden Ring pvp is complete junk.
If the devs cared even one bit, they would have just removed these broken aow until they could put their big brains together and figure out how to nerf it since they're obviously having a hard time figuring it out. Jesus christ
Quit putting 500 weapons in the game. Take Niohs, Wo Longs, RotR's approach if you can't make your mess of weapons comparable
I personally like there being a grab that catches rolls. Maybe this one wasnt executed well, but IMO the addition of grabs that punish heavy defensive play would certainly be a welcome addition for me, but I understand it would mess up the pace of the game for a lot of people unless theyre very quick, very low damage. If they caught rolls, blocks, and neutral, but didnt catch crouch, jump, or attack, i think they would be cool, but they would have to be quicker than what we have now for grabs, and less damage. Theyre supposed to just be small little slaps on the wrist for playing too defensive, not what they are here lol
a big issue is the fact that you can hardly approach them after they miss, because you have to worry about the explosion, so they can safely miss unless you have a fast range projectile
@@Jeenine how do you punish thrusting shields? I can't manage to be aggressive on 1vX because their buddy is backing them up with either projectile spam or leaping colossals when they get low on stamina. Only time I pull out this bullshit grab is when someone is thrusting shield spamming me.
@@OLONOODLE hammer talisman is your best friend, greathammers fists and kicks should be good matches, altho youll always be supposed to lose 1vX
Elden Spam Ring💩💩💩💩💩💩
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I love seeing sweats like you mad 😂😂😢 stop taking this game so seriously
Because he likes the game and wants some semblance of fairness and balance, you enjoy seeing that desire frustrated? That doesn't make much sense to me. Wanting to see normal people frustrated is a strange thing to want.
@@newstandardaccount he can’t be crying about stuff like that when he does those fucking inventory swaps on people who play the game casually
@@matteocd9609 and here you are, crying. The hypocrisy of people like you
@@calincampbell5637 I’m not crying? Did you see the emojis ? I’m laughing at how much this game affects his emotions🤣🤣
@@matteocd9609 he calmly shit-talked like 3 times in the whole video...are you a robot?
The grab is not that bad when you get used to avoiding it, swift slash is still lame af. Endure Patas has been the best answer for me, slap rot grease on em and go crazy
Its not really the fact that you can avoid it, its the fact that it hits if you roll thru it unless you roll AWAY from it, and even if they completely whiff they cant get punished cause they could always go for the followup on a punish. It forces you to play super passive instead of doing anything about it and wait for them to fuck up.
Also its bugged, so if you get grabbed it apparently does double the damage it should. And lag makes it extremely annoying to dodge even if you roll backwards, sometimes it will still grab you and do no damage but force you into the animation anyways lol
@@MeowLesty I get it, that gs aow is annoying af, can't think of a way to fix it without completely killing it
It's been 2 weeks guys, if you can't avoid it, then it's a skill issue on your part. People complaining about the follow up, but the follow up has a longer recovery than the grab animation recovery. If you bait your opponent into using it, you can either backstab or gain priority as soon as you roll the follow up. I know most of you are probably badredmen, but in the arena, this sword is not an issue compared to blind spot and shit slash.
@@tenmo2544 keep in mind that it isn't just about the arena, it's invasions too. Invasions have always been these games primary means of PVP. Some weapons become much stronger in ganks. Obviously everything is stronger in a gank but some weapons get geometrically stronger.
@@newstandardaccount I'd much rather fight this GS in a gank than a somewhat competent ganker using piercing fang on claymore tbh
This game sucks
Pve game
Idk why seeing g9 die made me happy
No one is immune to broken unbalanced garbage
Lol cancer gets blocked