Ollie: ' by talking to an expert' Me: ' oooo interesting I want to learn about this' also Ollie: 'and we're going to chat to Dr Xavier Disley' also me: *laughs in Hambini*
Hank was wearing the old GCN kit! What could he have saved if he was wearing the new GCN Kit. Looks like more science is needed for Hank and Ollie. Have a great day!
Whatever works best for you Br1an - both have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the length of the climb, but mixing it up is a good way to rest some muscles and stay comfortable
and even if you are not a strong climber, drafting will still help you on a headwind situation. I climb 3.5% grades at 15 kmh so i am pretty much a newbie climber 😅
Thanks, GCN. Enjoyed the video. One suggestion when you are displaying data. If you are comparing two values, for example undrafted climb time vs drafted climb time, it's helpful to put the two numbers being discussed on the screen at the same time, and perhaps even displaying the difference (+ or -). This would help viewers process the data faster and easier. And I guess I need more fitness before I worry about drafting uphill!
I see drafting on climbs as a pacekeeper, you can have altimeter, HR, cadence but nothing beat up the psychological effect of getting beat by a fellow cyclist.
Not mentioned is the psychological element. In addition to any drafting benefit there's also the drag benefit of being pulled up a hill by a stronger rider and fighting not to lose their wheel makes you suffer more and so go faster than you would riding it on your own.
Absolutely! Set a few PR's on Strava on local hills hanging on to another rider's wheel for dear life. Sometimes even enough in the tank to go over the top of them towards the end of the climb. :)
@@gilgermesch you are correct, I'm wrong. I missed it, which I think shows that it wasn't given the importance that I think it has. However, I accept this is because the videos focus is on the physical drafting effect. Being a climber 99% of the time when riding with friends my job is to set tempo on the climbs to pull them to 105% effort but I know that when on occasions I'm hanging on to somebodies' wheel on a climb, it's the not letting go rather than any wind resistance reduction that has the greater impact on my time.
"........Aerodynamicists, much like aerospace engineers, must have at least a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering or another relevant field of engineering like aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc" Dr. Xav has neither of those. Please get a real expert.
Could you next time use less slashes when writing out the data? AVG/SPEED (read "average per speed"); whats that's supposed to be? Even worse 20.8KM/PH is 20 point 8 kilometers per per hour. Either kmph or more common km/h...
Xavier Disley has a PhD in Exercise Physiology and Kinematics. This does not make him a expert in aerodynamics. He needs to stop calling himself one and the cycling media should not uncritically repeat this claim. Just because you give yourself a title with 'aero' in it, that does not make you an aerodynamicist.
Me and my girlfriend go out cycling quite a lot and always make use of drafting and swapping over for climbs is so helpful but as you said it’s the placebo effect making us feel so much fresher that’s the big gain
Ollie, bro I love you and I'm sure Disley is your good friend, and I'M SURE he's a good coach and has made you tons faster, especially in your hour record attempt, but you're helping no one by casting him as an aerodynamics expert. I'm reading his PHD dissertation right now and it has fuckall to do with aerodynamics, though it is very informative regard Qfactor and it's affects on performance.
@@GCNuser123 Ollie. Pro teams and champions are not scientific governing bodies. Thanks for the reply. If this were a serious industry like say... Aerospace or automotive, it might actually be illegal to call an uncertified person an aerodynamicist. That's why a lot of us have alarm bells ring in our heads.
Hey Google, what do I need to become an Aerodynamicist? ".......Aerodynamicists, much like aerospace engineers, must have at least a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering or another relevant field of engineering like aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc"
Aero expert lol that’s the guy who said their is less wind inside a velodrome, really, wow glad you needed a phd for that, he’s been exposed elsewhere.
I don’t know much about you or him, but if you first jump to level of education you don’t really know what your talking about. Experience, results, specialty... there’s so much in being an ‘expert.’
4:33 "he has a detailed understanding of the aerodynamics of cycling" - his qualifications are in Sports Performance, Exercise Physiology and Kinematics. Seems legit...
Well last Bridgewood video for me... too much of his favourite "expert". It's ok to not be able to invite actual experts, I'd sooner hear from Si and his science glasses.
Good info. Living in Andorra we have climbs that are +10kms at 7-8% average haha and then there's La Gallina through Fontaneda. I DREAM of being able to take advantage of drafting climbing these
I made a big mistake yesterday. On a fairly long but moderate slope a tiny guy Im guessing probably 8 stone (I’m more like 12.5) and a lot less than half my age (I’m 51) wearing Peterborough Cycling Club came past me 300 yds before the slope. I’d been out for 2 hours but I immediately put my foot down thinking I can take him. He wisely stuck behind me until the road flattened out and by that point I had used up too much power shielding him. He beat me because I didn’t ride tactically. You live and learn.
I think drafting is a lot more psychological than physical while climbing steeper gradients but that doesn’t mean it’s less important.In any case the time isn’t that important to me, it’s about putting out a good effort I’m proud of. Knowing I did my best on a climb is enough to give me satisfaction, it’s not like I would be in contention to get a KOM on them, most of them are held by professional cyclists anyway.
I think mathematzing this is a little too zealous due to the number of variables. Obviously the advantages are diminishing at lower speed. The gains are marginal. However, at some point the top of the climb is reached and you want to be at someone's wheel.
@@kilburncounty Also the numbers he's talking about could be verified by a five year old (lolol hehe) using high school level equations for drag, speed and drag coefficient. And even if not totally verified, could be analysed to give new insights using simple graphing tools and napkin calcs. Want me to give you the equations so you could do that stuff yourself? Let me know. Meanwhile I'm going to go out and ride me Orbea road bike, with my tubular skinny ass tires and my Campy record groupset, and pretend that I'm a fat Marco Pantani
Hmm, Hank sprinting uphill out of the saddle on the drops... is that the most effecient? please do a segment on Sprint positions...I Sprint that way out of the saddle but sometimes on the hoods..
I thought I’d relate my favorite climbing experience. There is a woman in our club who is a very strong cyclist. She would normally be in one the faster groups, but this Saturday, she was riding in the slow group, due to being in her third trimester. We were having an enjoyable talk when we reached the start of the climb - 4km at 5%. I rounded the corner just in front of her, and dared to think I would beat her up the climb. About halfway up, she passed me, and I thought, well, I’ll draft her to the top, and maybe I can sprint for the win. The last few hundred meters, she sprinted away, and I was left in my usual position. But, I told myself, it took _two_ of them to beat me!
Well even if you are moving slowly up a hill, as long as you are moving, there will be a benefit from drafting. So even if the benefit is really small, if you are in a group it's free. So unless you want to attack or you are about to blow up if the pace is too high, you should draft.
@@guidospanoghe8896 If you want to beat the faster one, hang to his wheel. Since you will have to follow him anyway if you want to beat him so you might as well take the drafting benefit even if it's really small.
"........Aerodynamicists, much like aerospace engineers, must have at least a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering or another relevant field of engineering like aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc" Dr. Xav has neither of those. Please get a real expert.
@@krisjones74 That's very very true. I only ride my local 4s as deemed by Strava. The closest 3 is just out of my riding range...but I'd have to climb a few 4s to get to it. Whelp, it's June. Time to focus on my old friend speed and power. Leave that failed distance challenge that was May in the past.
Until the COVID-19 thing is resolved, drafting is probably not a good idea. Riding under time trial rules seems like the way to ride for the time being.
I had always thought that the psychological benefit of being able to ride behind team members is great, Both within the team and instilling some insecurity in the other Riders-look at us, if there is any one of us considered the weakest in our team, we are still better than most others. For years I followed Columbia Hi-road as the team came full force to the front of so many races. This era we have the men in Black, then white, then Red; any color kit, the message was We are SKY, coming at you-time trials, mountains and most of all we will alway be a force of concern.’’ Sigh, I’m missing cycling-GCN helps.
Ollie, are you sure you have enough advertising on your laptop?? Sign of success - someone lucky to climb at such a slow rate, drafting is not relevant for me here!!
I just like to have a pacemaker because I can't climb that well to begin with. I've climbed GMR by myself to struggle and climbed it with a pacemaker and did it faster and felt better. I'm sure a draft helped a bit but for me it was the pacing that helped more psychologically.
Thanks Ollie for this video, I will never have the problem of drafting up a climb, but still interesting! On another note: Do y'all put the wahoo-stuff up in the background or in the corner of your shots on purpose?
steep climbs its just pace keeping as someone else said, you can measure the effort to stay with someone and if your feeling good you can explode out. If you look at Quintana using Landa for pacing, he got dropped a few times so its not saving energy
On drafting up a hill. I would have to say it all depends on what her caboose looks like and if she had broccoli for breakfast LOL. You wouldn't want to get blasted by the exhaust by the one in front of you. I know if you draft off me at any time you run the high risk of getting fumigated, for real. Especially after a link of Boudin and a chocolate milk. LOL
Psychological effect is in my opinion and experience on par with Physics and greatest exactly where the Physics of drafting contributes the least - steep slow climbs. Mind over matter example.
"just over 20 km an hour is worth it" well, that's one less thing i need to worry about on anything resembling a climb 😅
If there is a 20kph head wind it makes a difference and you often get nasty winds in the mountains.
Hahah I hear that! 😂
Staying out of the wind is good at any speed really. And the psychological effects of holding their wheel is awesome. ✌
You are as much an aerodynamics expert as Mr Aerocoach then. But you are not paying GCN anything to promote you.
Doc Ollie takes out the big guns with Hank the Tank. Thanks Doc, James, Nico and Doc Xavier
Ollie: ' by talking to an expert'
Me: ' oooo interesting I want to learn about this'
also Ollie: 'and we're going to chat to Dr Xavier Disley'
also me: *laughs in Hambini*
Dr Disley has no qualifications in aerodynamics. He is not an expert.
@@SK-ox6xq I'm sure he's great at coaching people to get more aero on a bike, but that is not an aerodynamics expert
Yes, not only for the slight wattage gain, but also to have someone to pace.
Great climb that! Love the W out of Nailsworth! One of many brilliant climbs in the area!
Lotta traffic and no shoulder.
Hank was wearing the old GCN kit! What could he have saved if he was wearing the new GCN Kit. Looks like more science is needed for Hank and Ollie. Have a great day!
Peacemaking and just following a wheel helps more than drafting then!
Nice job! Thanks!
Is the international gravel video still coming out today with Si and Jeremy?
good video as always
It's important to stand or set when you climb?
Whatever works best for you Br1an - both have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the length of the climb, but mixing it up is a good way to rest some muscles and stay comfortable
Well if you stand up, you'll have a higher cDA, so if you don't mind standing or sitting, sit for lower drag. Or maybe give your bum a rest!
각시탈
So annoying listening to someone talking whilst they're out of breath! Couldn't he have done it after the ride?
When you climb at 8kph and you come to this video hoping for some useful information and then you’re sorely saddened
😂🤣😂🧬
that would be me :(
The useful info, is that you don’t need to worry, but as soon as it levels off slightly, you should try and draft 👍🏼
and even if you are not a strong climber, drafting will still help you on a headwind situation.
I climb 3.5% grades at 15 kmh so i am pretty much a newbie climber 😅
Thanks, GCN. Enjoyed the video. One suggestion when you are displaying data. If you are comparing two values, for example undrafted climb time vs drafted climb time, it's helpful to put the two numbers being discussed on the screen at the same time, and perhaps even displaying the difference (+ or -). This would help viewers process the data faster and easier.
And I guess I need more fitness before I worry about drafting uphill!
I totally agree I was going to suggest the exact same thing...
@@walshman70 Me too
Was going to suggest the same.. I like how older videos displayed tables and final conclusions
I see drafting on climbs as a pacekeeper, you can have altimeter, HR, cadence but nothing beat up the psychological effect of getting beat by a fellow cyclist.
Who needs aerodynamics and drafting when I'm walking up climbs...
Anyone else notice Ollie’s “Save the Rim Brake” sticker on his laptop while his disc brake Orbea hangs behind him... 😆
I thought "save the rim brake" means, use less rim brake to save them from wearing out.
Yes. He needs to have a conversation with ... himself.
Ollie is the king of content in lockdown.
Now i know why i'm so slow! My dad don't have motorcycle.
doesnt
@@yourrightiamwrong9643 doesn't or does not :)
I don't have a Dad but I have a motorcycle
I feel the benefits of drafting at 25kph on the flat, pro's climb at 25kph, therefor pro's benefit of drafting on climbs!
Lots of things to take away from this video, but my key take away is that I want a “Save the Rim Brake” sticker.
💜
I stopped watching at drafting at "20 kph is worth it" LOL. ill just try to get up the hills isolated thank you very much....
You missed some useful info at the end! It’s still worth it at lower speeds too.
Not mentioned is the psychological element. In addition to any drafting benefit there's also the drag benefit of being pulled up a hill by a stronger rider and fighting not to lose their wheel makes you suffer more and so go faster than you would riding it on your own.
17:45 sure it's mentioned
It is mentioned By Roche
Absolutely! Set a few PR's on Strava on local hills hanging on to another rider's wheel for dear life. Sometimes even enough in the tank to go over the top of them towards the end of the climb. :)
AGREEMENT +100
@@gilgermesch you are correct, I'm wrong. I missed it, which I think shows that it wasn't given the importance that I think it has. However, I accept this is because the videos focus is on the physical drafting effect. Being a climber 99% of the time when riding with friends my job is to set tempo on the climbs to pull them to 105% effort but I know that when on occasions I'm hanging on to somebodies' wheel on a climb, it's the not letting go rather than any wind resistance reduction that has the greater impact on my time.
Mr Aerocoach might be an expert, but not in aerodynamics.
"........Aerodynamicists, much like aerospace engineers, must have at least a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering or another relevant field of engineering like aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc"
Dr. Xav has neither of those.
Please get a real expert.
Convicted liar Aerocouch in the video again... hilarious :D
wow, is that Hambini's best friend there? Something was wrong with his head, I forgot what was it...
kuntz?
Could you next time use less slashes when writing out the data? AVG/SPEED (read "average per speed"); whats that's supposed to be? Even worse 20.8KM/PH is 20 point 8 kilometers per per hour. Either kmph or more common km/h...
Xavier Disley has a PhD in Exercise Physiology and Kinematics. This does not make him a expert in aerodynamics. He needs to stop calling himself one and the cycling media should not uncritically repeat this claim. Just because you give yourself a title with 'aero' in it, that does not make you an aerodynamicist.
Me and my girlfriend go out cycling quite a lot and always make use of drafting and swapping over for climbs is so helpful but as you said it’s the placebo effect making us feel so much fresher that’s the big gain
Question should be "Can" you draft on climb? 😆
Ollie, bro I love you and I'm sure Disley is your good friend, and I'M SURE he's a good coach and has made you tons faster, especially in your hour record attempt, but you're helping no one by casting him as an aerodynamics expert.
I'm reading his PHD dissertation right now and it has fuckall to do with aerodynamics, though it is very informative regard Qfactor and it's affects on performance.
There are several world tour teams who would disagree with you there. Not to mention national time trial champions!
@@GCNuser123 Ollie. Pro teams and champions are not scientific governing bodies. Thanks for the reply.
If this were a serious industry like say... Aerospace or automotive, it might actually be illegal to call an uncertified person an aerodynamicist. That's why a lot of us have alarm bells ring in our heads.
"I've got a fart machine attached under my saddle. It keeps unwanted drafters away."
Lol
I've got one on top off my saddle😉💨💩
@@glennoc8585 LOL" Your fart machine gives thrust as well."
Hank looks so dated in his 2019 GCN kit! Utterly unacceptable :D
At least he had the new helmet. 🤣
Hey Google, what do I need to become an Aerodynamicist?
".......Aerodynamicists, much like aerospace engineers, must have at least a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering or another relevant field of engineering like aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc"
Aero expert lol that’s the guy who said their is less wind inside a velodrome, really, wow glad you needed a phd for that, he’s been exposed elsewhere.
I can’t look at him without thinking “Mr V head” 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤣😂🤣
Guessing you are a Hambini fan ;)
@@74_Green "HELLO"
a world class cycling aerodynamics "expert". mr V-head is definately not an expert. I have a higher education in aerodynamics than him
I don’t know much about you or him, but if you first jump to level of education you don’t really know what your talking about. Experience, results, specialty... there’s so much in being an ‘expert.’
Once again the expert is aero coach? Thanks for nothing.
I find with a tailwind it significantly increases my time even if the gradient is 10%, however with a headwind it really doesn't affect it
I love that Si is not an expert. I hate that Xav pretends he is.
ANOTHER GOOD VIDEO FROM YOU GUYS, loved it!! Over here in Belgium we don’t have a lot of longer climbs. More short and steep ones!
België🇧🇪🇧🇪❤️
I live locally and never really thought of the 1% at the top being part of the climb. Good video regardless. Interesting info.
Glad it was helpful Ed
Ever ride up a hill into a brutal headwind. Sheltering helps
4:33 "he has a detailed understanding of the aerodynamics of cycling" - his qualifications are in Sports Performance, Exercise Physiology and Kinematics. Seems legit...
hambini........?
@@Freakysantana No, just somebody that likes to do their research.
Anyone who can operate the Bike Calculator site can be an aero expert.
you should draft, but when i saw Xavier Disley, I stopped watching.
Well last Bridgewood video for me... too much of his favourite "expert". It's ok to not be able to invite actual experts, I'd sooner hear from Si and his science glasses.
Thanks for the feedback Spam, we'll take that on board :)
I'd rather have spam eggs and spam
I think it helps mentally as well; a carrot to chase, psychologically etc
Yes, if the other rider is faster then it can be a good motivator to keep up with them and get the most out of yourself
@@gcn Dan loyd should chase a can of beer.
Need another excuse to send Hank up a hill?
I'm having a coffee and watching GCN - send Hank up a hill.
Cheers Aaron, we'll find another hill
Good info. Living in Andorra we have climbs that are +10kms at 7-8% average haha and then there's La Gallina through Fontaneda. I DREAM of being able to take advantage of drafting climbing these
I made a big mistake yesterday. On a fairly long but moderate slope a tiny guy Im guessing probably 8 stone (I’m more like 12.5) and a lot less than half my age (I’m 51) wearing Peterborough Cycling Club came past me 300 yds before the slope. I’d been out for 2 hours but I immediately put my foot down thinking I can take him. He wisely stuck behind me until the road flattened out and by that point I had used up too much power shielding him. He beat me because I didn’t ride tactically. You live and learn.
Good example, Lance wasn't necessarily the best rider, but he was one of the most tactful riders.
It's only wise to sit in someone else's draft if you're confident they're not infectious!
This is how you do it. Show us all the data, come to correct conclusions.
And not some "hey, I got this fancy bracelet, it does stuff, it's cool".
I'm a tech geek and this video seemed a bit long and drawn out at moments. Still a thumbs up, but I'd tighten the editing. Just saying ...
Lol the typo 15:25
21.3km/ph
21.3 Kilometers per pH scale, not heard of it? 😂
@@cyclenutter2715 that would be some basic stuff I guess 😂
Raul Silva We shouldn’t have acidic comments on this channel!
Cycle Nutter Surely it is km per photon?
@@brazghost Ur reply is underrated. Take my thumbs up!!
Just goes to show, you don't have to wear glasses to do science!
I think drafting is a lot more psychological than physical while climbing steeper gradients but that doesn’t mean it’s less important.In any case the time isn’t that important to me, it’s about putting out a good effort I’m proud of. Knowing I did my best on a climb is enough to give me satisfaction, it’s not like I would be in contention to get a KOM on them, most of them are held by professional cyclists anyway.
If you cannot find draft even at 10km/hr up or flat, then let me suck your wheel! LOL! Very rarely is there no wind at all from any direction.
I think mathematzing this is a little too zealous due to the number of variables. Obviously the advantages are diminishing at lower speed. The gains are marginal. However, at some point the top of the climb is reached and you want to be at someone's wheel.
GCN : And now over to Aerocoach
Me (phd in engineering and mathematics): switches off
Hash tag Hambini
Thanks for the feedback JR :)
OK, so why not watch the analysis he provides to Olly, the apply you massive education to explain why his numbers are wrong?
@@kilburncounty Hambini already did something like that and got sued.
Most of would rather do something more fun instead. Like ride a bike
@@kilburncounty Also the numbers he's talking about could be verified by a five year old (lolol hehe) using high school level equations for drag, speed and drag coefficient. And even if not totally verified, could be analysed to give new insights using simple graphing tools and napkin calcs.
Want me to give you the equations so you could do that stuff yourself? Let me know. Meanwhile I'm going to go out and ride me Orbea road bike, with my tubular skinny ass tires and my Campy record groupset, and pretend that I'm a fat Marco Pantani
Hmm, Hank sprinting uphill out of the saddle on the drops... is that the most effecient? please do a segment on Sprint positions...I Sprint that way out of the saddle but sometimes on the hoods..
I thought I’d relate my favorite climbing experience. There is a woman in our club who is a very strong cyclist. She would normally be in one the faster groups, but this Saturday, she was riding in the slow group, due to being in her third trimester. We were having an enjoyable talk when we reached the start of the climb - 4km at 5%. I rounded the corner just in front of her, and dared to think I would beat her up the climb. About halfway up, she passed me, and I thought, well, I’ll draft her to the top, and maybe I can sprint for the win. The last few hundred meters, she sprinted away, and I was left in my usual position. But, I told myself, it took _two_ of them to beat me!
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The whole premise of this video is that you don't get dropped in the first couple of hundred metres. Hmmmm... okay 😂
Think the postman isn't delivering Hanks new kit. Good news for Assos not so much for Castelli.
RIP Try athletes who can't draft 😂
if eliud kipchogue uses drafting at 20km/hr drafting works
Drafting is good on climbs mainly to help with getting up. If someone is infront it helps physiologically to get up.
Yes .. and half wheel, whistle, ask hard questions, say “oh look at that”. Anything to get the edge.
You guys have less product and more.meat amd potatoes.
Lol your arms jk man qual episode.
th-cam.com/video/lnYp4srEooI/w-d-xo.html if you want to cover kilometers faster then drafting a cyclist watch this video
Q should you draft on a climb..... then tests this on a 1.6% slope 🤣🤔 why not test it, you know on an actual climb ??
its 6%.. still not that much of climb, is it?
km/h not km/ph
Well even if you are moving slowly up a hill, as long as you are moving, there will be a benefit from drafting. So even if the benefit is really small, if you are in a group it's free.
So unless you want to attack or you are about to blow up if the pace is too high, you should draft.
@@guidospanoghe8896 If you want to beat the faster one, hang to his wheel. Since you will have to follow him anyway if you want to beat him so you might as well take the drafting benefit even if it's really small.
Q: Should you draft? A: Yes, always!
Richard Lowbrink no
"........Aerodynamicists, much like aerospace engineers, must have at least a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering or another relevant field of engineering like aeronautical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc"
Dr. Xav has neither of those.
Please get a real expert.
Dirty secret. Real experts are rarely bothered to work in cycling.
I'm overweight so my take away from this video: pull the trigger on that e-bike I've been eyeing..🤫
Do whatever gets you motivated to ride.
Please shave. it might save 1 wattt!
As Hambini rolls his eyes...
To the wheel suckers: no, it doesn't.
I just embrace the suck on climbs, because I'm not fast enough to draft on climbs.
It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster.
@@krisjones74 That's very very true. I only ride my local 4s as deemed by Strava. The closest 3 is just out of my riding range...but I'd have to climb a few 4s to get to it.
Whelp, it's June. Time to focus on my old friend speed and power. Leave that failed distance challenge that was May in the past.
HA ha ha ha ha - I'll stick to my motorbike, lads.
Who is this aimed at lol... The see a moped jump on it brigade lol..
2:53 Dauphine? Joux Plane? Tourmalet?
Until the COVID-19 thing is resolved, drafting is probably not a good idea. Riding under time trial rules seems like the way to ride for the time being.
Absolutely, unless you cohabit with the other person.
Great video 😎 thanks to all of You 😉
No, it's bloody annoying, at least ask.
I had always thought that the psychological benefit of being able to ride behind team members is great, Both within the team and instilling some insecurity in the other Riders-look at us, if there is any one of us considered the weakest in our team, we are still better than most others. For years I followed Columbia Hi-road as the team came full force to the front of so many races. This era we have the men in Black, then white, then Red; any color kit, the message was We are SKY, coming at you-time trials, mountains and most of all we will alway be a force of concern.’’ Sigh, I’m missing cycling-GCN helps.
Matt, Dan, Tom and Si. That’s when GCN was at it’s prime
Dan Tom and Si are still around Jose :)
Ollie, are you sure you have enough advertising on your laptop?? Sign of success - someone lucky to climb at such a slow rate, drafting is not relevant for me here!!
This is the best shit from internet!!!!!!!
I just like to have a pacemaker because I can't climb that well to begin with. I've climbed GMR by myself to struggle and climbed it with a pacemaker and did it faster and felt better. I'm sure a draft helped a bit but for me it was the pacing that helped more psychologically.
Thanks Ollie for this video, I will never have the problem of drafting up a climb, but still interesting!
On another note: Do y'all put the wahoo-stuff up in the background or in the corner of your shots on purpose?
Irrelevant to me because......I follow GCN's advise and I "don't ride UP GRADES, I buy UPGRADES!"
Really useful video guys
steep climbs its just pace keeping as someone else said, you can measure the effort to stay with someone and if your feeling good you can explode out. If you look at Quintana using Landa for pacing, he got dropped a few times so its not saving energy
Does it count as a KOM if you're drafting behind a motorcycle, or an electric bike, or if you're in a group of TTs?
On drafting up a hill. I would have to say it all depends on what her caboose looks like and if she had broccoli for breakfast LOL. You wouldn't want to get blasted by the exhaust by the one in front of you. I know if you draft off me at any time you run the high risk of getting fumigated, for real. Especially after a link of Boudin and a chocolate milk. LOL
I think we should send Hank to Alto de Letras, on his tall bike, without brakes, drafting behind a truck, to go for the KOM!
Psychological effect is in my opinion and experience on par with Physics and greatest exactly where the Physics of drafting contributes the least - steep slow climbs. Mind over matter example.
Km/ph? Kilometres per per hour?