I actually play the opposite! In my game he has a little girl called Mel who he absolutely adores. He stopped being a Lothario to take care of her and make sure she grows up well. When she grows up I see them being like besties as she brings boys over and he goes mad.
I’ve always pictured him like a lothario that is really overprotective of his daughter and even jealous when she becomes a teenager because he “knows how bad boys are” since he’s one
So Cindy is basically telling us that she is a WAY BETTER writer for The Sims than The Sims Team themselves... I'm not surprised😂🤷🏾♂️ But this is so cool! Absolutely love that sims from the first playthrough of Pleasantview are there! Keep up the best work Cindy!💙 I'm really think of remaking this in Ts2 cause I absolutely wanna play this save file! Just not in Ts4😂
@@PleasantSims I don't really care about lore, but I really like your style of writing, it feels a lot like the old sims games. The writers in TS4 play it way too safe when compared to the "outrageous"(?) flavor text in TS2/TS3
Personally, I never hated that the Sims 4 was on an alternate timeline. I just hated the lack of _lore_ on these Sims that are supposed to be dramatic and iconic. It's awesome to see how Cindy imagines if the Sims 4 wasn't on an alternate timeline.
Yea this is how I feel, too bad ea could have done sometime really cool and unique. Like imagine a timeline where bella and don were a thing, or all the other possibilities
Same, I have no problem with it being an alternate timeline. Everyone plays the game differently, and this way they aren't locked into saying anything is "canon" meaning you've been playing Sims 2 wrong, or something. But there's no flavor to the expecting storyline in Sims 4. There are just Sims. Even the Pancakes house storyline doesn't make sense - we're supposed to think their relationship is on the rocks, they sleep in separate bedrooms, but every time I play them they have a really high relationship already.
have you seen cindys video where she fixed the sims in willow creek? like how the bio for travis, summer, and liberty insinuates a love triangle yet they barely know each other... cindy fixed it so that travis is romantically involved with them both. same for all the other bios that are supposed to create drama! i think she is doing the other worlds as well but the only one i can remember rn is get famous
Same, I love the graphics, build mode is amazing! It's the best one out of all the games in my opinion, cas is really good too, it has so many options(if you have all the packs) but the lore is not really good.
I don't know about you, but it always bugged me how in the sims 4 originally (base game), Cassandra Goth was a teen, and Don Lothario is older than her, unlike in the sims 2, where they were, y'know, engaged and almost the same age! It's like they didn't WANT you to recreate that in the sims 4, and pursue that story-line. Plus they pretty much made all of the sims white who were more medium skin toned, (main exampled being Cassandra Goth and Bella Goth, and even Nina and Dina, since I think they were a bit darker in the sims 2 than they are in the sims 4!) They really just did them ALL dirty tbh.
This video actually kinda made me want to make my own sims 4 save with the sims staying mostly the same, but just edited to look more like their sims 2 selves, Bella and Don are the same age, and maybe try to make it to where Bella and Don are engaged? (basically, try to put the sims 2 into the sims 4 the best I can, lol)
(They may not have much to them, though, but my main goal is to just get all of the sims look the same that they do in the sims 2, not edit relationships really, since i dont know how, and if i choose to share it, people can just do whatever they want with the rest of it!)
@@dundee6402 Well by originally I just mean when you first start the game. You can of course customize them further to fix them and thats what I meant. Originally = before you personalize things
It's so clear how much you really care about the families and their stories. It's pretty obvious that the EA team didn't really care about the townies, and that gave me the impression that you weren't supposed to play them (oops). As I've never played any previous EA games I thought that townies were sort of for decoration, and only existed to make the worlds look less,,,, dead? Although I assume if I had begun playing previous games instead of just TS4 I wouldn't have had this issue. Great video! Keep it up!
Thank you! I know exactly what you mean. The Sims 4 is the first game in the series where I DON'T play the premade families and have to make my own. They really didn't seem to care about the lore in this installment unfortunately.
Same, I played sims 1 when I was 6, BUT never really paid attention.... Then I started sims 4 (when I was 20) and I thought they were for decor, until I saw Chrillsims3's lore videos that there's actual stories and its sad to see sims 4 in an alternate timeline..... smh
IMO the best part of the older sims games was the possibility for both. As it is right now, simmers HAVE to make their own families or else its just boring. The older games had families with stories and relationships which made them interesting to play. The way CAS was improved has helped but not everyone likes CAS.
Been playing sims 4 for a while now and installed sims 3 to try recently. Its really not the same. Sims 3 clearly more in depth. But still i wish some of the mechanic of sims 4 was ported to sims 3. Like multi tasking.
Thanks for watching everyone! There are now four versions on the download page for expansion packs if you have them. The main save file remains base game compatible. Hope you have fun playing these Sims! Also, I forgot to introduce Casper Goth! He's a creative art lover, who I can see growing up to be a sensitive artist. :) And one more thing - Dina and Nina's ages don't match. I know. I'm fixing it. UPDATE: Ages are fixed. Update #2 - Don and Dina don't know each other. Thank you for pointing that out! I am fixing it now. UPDATE: The relationship is fixed now. I won't be able to read all the comment on this video, so if you find anything else that needs to be fixed, please leave a comment on the blog post. Thank you!
Cindy, to reset the ages of the sims, with the UI Cheats mod place the mouse cursor over the age bar and click with the left button, so put the number of days the Sim has and put a "-" and that's it, reserved age!
So first off I love everything about this series I love the detail I love their looks and the story progression and it’s awesome please continue this I adore this series you’re making want to play this version lol
There's a whole theory about this, and how it relates to Bella's disappearance. Plumbella made a video on it, and I think you can find it if you search up "alex plays sims bella goth theory."
Im sorry if its hard but can you try to make oasis spring/strangerville strange town? Its my 2 favorite town in the sims games... thank you, your videos makes me very happy in this quarentine!
Pleasant Sims, don't rule it out completely. Sammyhotstud was one of the original devs for the Sims 4. I had created a call center mod for the Sims 2 that ALMOST no one downloaded, because everyone was playing the Sims 3 by then. Sammyhotstud downloaded it and loved it. It's now part of the tech career in ts4. Never say never, because you never know who might be using your mods and saves!
Pleasantview flooding sounds like what happened to my parish after hurricane Katrina hit us 😅 completely flooded, coastal town, lots of people left bc of the destruction! I feel seen LOL You did an amazing job once again at creating actual lore for the series! Your hard work is appreciated ❤️
@@PleasantSims Thank you❤️ Since Willow Creek was based on New Orleans/Louisiana architecture, I think the story you created tracks really well, even if not intentional.
This video reminded me why I LOVED Sims 2. The game having lore & feeling like you're playing with established lives really made the game that much more fun. This so looks amazing!!
A very interesting and complexed save file! Ofc with some eps it's gonna be even better but this is what Sims 4 should have been! Your efforts to make Sims 4 alive are for every appriciation,amazing job! Interesting backstories ✔ Connected families ✔ Space for player's own vision ✔ EA take a note
I sincerely admire your dedication to the lore that even creators lack, it's so nice to see every little touch to detail in this neighborhood and how true these sims are to their sims 2 selves.
Cindy this is very interesting ! Your save file make me wanna reinstall sims 4 just to play them! I wish they went with this idea for the lore in sims 4 but then again they’d probably screw it up as always
My question is why can’t the Sims Team do something like this this is absolutely amazing and I love it but is it really that hard for me to do something with us because it seems to be I’m just happy that you did it thank you you brought what is Sims four should’ve been to life
I’ve only ever played TS4 but this feels so much more well rounded and fun. Everyone knows each other, related sims are actually in each other’s family trees, the stories give you something to play off? And the next gen sims have histories! I’m amazed every time you make files like this
I love how this is based off of your Sims 2 story! Will there be a save file where Cassandra and Mary-Sue are married? I thought that was such a cute storyline from your original Pleasantview LP 🥺
this gives depth to the game and it makes it coherent and connected with the other games, as it should have been. you're really out here saving ts4 for us 😊❤️
This is just making me want to create a save of my own and blend some Sim/households from all previous games that aren't so popular and throw them in my game. Anyways, I might download this too. It's just so very well detailed~ Love it
There’s a family in the bin, in sims 2, the parents have been on some tv show that took place in the future is something like that? They are so interesting! If i remember correctly they have a terrible relationship with their kid, so I make them get a dog för the kid that becomes his best friend, and I make the parents spend all their time with the kid too. There’s something erie about them, and their house, it’s like a tv set kind of.
Cindy not only gave us the DEPTH the Sims 4 desperately needs, she also gave us WIDTH, LENGTH AND HEIGHT 😂😍. Thanks for this! A strangetown one would be amazing. Regards from Chile
I know! I can't wait to see how sentiments play out in this save. I will update it when the new expansion is released if cheat codes are available for adding sentiments. And thank you!
This is so amazing and well thought out I’m obsessed!! I can’t imagine how much work this must have taken literally everything has been thought through
Thanks Jade! If you do, I hope you enjoy it. I'm trying my best to find some enjoyment from this game even if it will never be as good as the older games.
Aaahhh! I literally just finished cc-ifying the Sims in the original save file, and then here comes this one, which is exactly what I had always hoped S4 would be. Grabbing this one right the heck away, and tomorrow is Saturday, oh whatever shall I do?
this really is an excellent direction for these characters to go in. it all makes perfect sense for them. i can tell you really care about these characters (far more than ea, lbr) and paid a lot of attention to who they were, which fed into who they became
Wow you single handily put in more effort in these stories, sims relationships and houses than ts4 team/gurus. The whole alternative timeline is just a cop out. Anyways this is just amazing.
Great job btw! What I am missing from this story which could add even more depht / realism; - sims with negative traits and backstory, like anger management issues (hot headed), narcisism (self absorted) - different body types, for example Daniel Pleasant’s son struggle with his weight due to his depression of their parents divorce and it makes Daniel bully him as he is a big sportsman etc. - maybe some really extreme case when a teen ran away and living alone or somebody lost everything due to divorce or some unhealthy habit (partiing maybe) and went homeless (empty lot with a tent) - more people of color - pets (I know it’s not basegame)
Girl I'm halfway through the video but I already wanna thank you for reconnecting me with my younger self who got absolutely ABSORBED by the stories on the Sims 2, and didn't realise how much I was missing that in ts4 until now , you did amazing, thank u!!
This is fun! I might try this one out, the only reason I haven't so far is because I haven't played the Sims 4 in months! But your save file is fun, and pretty different than other ones I've stumbled across. I enjoy the lore based stuff!
this is DELICIOUS i always loved how sims 2 started with some JUICE and ZEST to it. mid action even! the details in 2 were so lovely that it is still amazing today even if the games code was held together with rubber bands and paper clips
I have a few questions: -Why is not Alexander married to Cecile Goth like in the Goth family lore? -Why if Cassandra, Daniel, Mary, Brandy, Don, Dina and Nina, are around the same age in the sims 2, (also in the sims 1 Cassandra and Daniel are the same life stage), Daniel, Mary-Sue, and Brandy are elders and not the others? Aslo the same goes for Darren, isn't he supposed to have around the same age with Cassandra? -In the sims 3 why is Keighleen Langreak (I hope i wrote it right, I'm very bad with names) a child in the sims 3 when she wasn't suppossed to be born in that time line? -Did Bella and Mortimer lived a happy life after she managed to come back? -Why the sims 4 doesn't have personal bios? Wouldn't it be better if EA added them? Would it be possible to accesit from the CAS I just started to make questions trying to remember another question that I couldn't remember.
Pretty sure they're not meant to be all the same age, idk about the days but there are many errors when it comes to that in the original games. The adult life stage in Sims 3 and 4 lasts from 35 to 59, and in Sims 2 it also includes the young adult stage (or at least, a huge chunk of it, if you exclude the time at the University) so also the ages from 18 to 34. Dina and Nina and Don being the same age as parents of teenagers would not make that much sense from the perspective of the events as well. Sims 3 is the same timeline as the originals, so Kaylynn being born makes sense - for some reason though, they made her around the same age as Mortimer and Bella, which doesn't make sense, because she would have probably been an elder by the time of Sims 2.
So there are theories that Kaylynn Langerak in Sims 2 is not the same Kaylynn Langerak in Sims 3. My favorite thing to do is to have her be Parker's daughter who takes after her aunt, who is her namesake. Fixed that 10-something year jump real quick. I mean it's pretty obvious someone just hand waved the math in the storyline but that's what I did to make it make sense to me since in the sims 3 her brother Parker is a teenager and would be an elder and could have an adult daughter in the sims 2. Also, Kaylynn is not playable in the sims 2 initially and has aging turned off so she really could be the same age as the others it's just the aging doesn't progress for townies until you start playing them and it starts at the beginning of that life stage whereas she should be towards the end and almost an elder.
I actually feel emotional. This is what I always wanted for The Sims 4 - to actually have a part in the storyline and not just be a compilation of random sims in random life stages. It feels magical to see these sims later in life, thank you! 💕
Gosh! This Is so cool Cindy! I'm also trying to make a save file, mostly for myself, and after I discovered your channel I've became so obsessed with The Sims 2, that I had to make a version of the Base game Sims In the sims 4, thank you for your videos and for being so inspiring! Side note! I think Jennifer Burb would be In the Sports career, considering her dream to play soccer In Sims 1 ( just a thought!)
Thanks! Glad you like it and find some inspiration from my content! PS. Jennifer's Bio in Sims 2 says "Jennifer used to dream of being a soccer superstar, but now she's quite happy to focus on being fashionable and stylish instead."
Wow! I never even play with premade families, but I kinda grew attached to all of Sims 2 families from your let's plays and seeing all this work you put into make TS4 storyline better and make more sense, it's amazing! Thank you! This is absolutely awesome!
Fun new stories for The Sims 2! Like that you included all The Sims from your The Sims 2 Let's Plays but where is Sam Burb (John and Jennifer's fifth child)? :D I also hate that EA lazily went the alternative timeline route. I "fix" The Sims 4 by incorporating all the lore from the first three games while not erasing the new characters / scenarios that were introduced in The Sims 4. It's a lot of work but hope you enjoy reading the novel I wrote below. :D Here's what I do for the core families that exist across multiple games. The established Sims continuity is that The Sims 3 comes first, The Sims 1 occurs 25 years later and The Sims 2 storyline occurs 25 years after. I establish The Sims 4 as taking place 10 years before the events of The Sims 2 (which mostly fits except for the Landgraabs and the Pleasants / Brokes / Dreamers they shoehorn in later in the series - I explain this by saying The Sims 4 is an alien's very small simulation of earthling families their interested in, which explains timeline inconsistencies but that most events that happen in The Sims 4 occured as per The Sims 4, just at different times with some inconsistencies). *Goth / Crumplebottom (and Brokes and Pleasants):* First of all, I recreate the deceased ancestors of the Goths. A Goth home without a graveyard is not a Goth house. Unfortunately, their backyard is too small to have the graveyard I want so I have to build an underground mausoleum instead. I recreate all the deceased Goths - Mortimer's father Gunther, his paternal grandparents Victor and Gretle, his late aunt Frida and his late grand-uncle Samuel and his late wife Olivia (from The Sims 3: Supernatural). Gunther's first wife Lolita (ghost named Lolita Goth appears in Sunset Valley in The Sims 3) is also there. Mortimer's maternal grandparents Simon and Prudence are also buried here in addition to his aunt Agnes Crumplebottom. I have a sad backstory for Agnes. After Erik Darling died in The Sims 3, she adopted a child. She then went on to marry Robert Crumplebottom (who was mentioned as her husband in The Sims 1 and he may or may not be a distant relative - but hey the Crumplebottoms are rich aristocrats)! She went on to have three more children with Robert. Robert was a philanthroper, puppeteer (and magician in my game); and the Crumplebottoms went onto live a life of adventure on the road. But an accident went wrong on the road (maybe actual nefarious magic was involved) which resulted in Robert and Agnes' three eldest children perishing (Robert and the children went onto become the ghosts of Vegas, Cousin, Bratty and Boy who were in the Goth graveyard in The Sims 1). Robert Crumplebottom is also the brother of the Crumplebottom witches who appear in The Sims 3: Supernatural. Agnes has one remaining son Derek who she smothered with affection but became embittered otherwise. Derek married a woman very much like his mother named Missy Crumplebottom. I intend for Derek to die tragically at some point in my game with Missy becoming the Mrs. Crumplebottom we meet in The Sims 2. Bella's family are also buried in the Goth mausoleum including Simis Bachelor, Jocasta Bachelor, Simis' parents Milton and Enriqueta and I created parents Yiannis and Eleni for Jocasta Bachelor as it annoyed me that her parents were missing. Back to the present day Goths in The Sims 4, Cornelia Goth is still alive as Cassandra's memories in The Sims 2 indicate that Cornelia didn't die until Cassandra became an adult. I have recently bereaved Cornelia and her two very elderly cats Hecuba and Menelaus from The Sims: Unleashed move in to Ophelia Villa. However, I age Cassandra up to the start of her young adult years, ready to attend university as there should be a wide age gap between her and Alexander. I age Alexander down to a toddler as toddlers didn't exist in The Sims 4 at launch. Bella is aged up from young adult to adult as her and Mortimer should be around the same age. I believe she's just shown as an adult rather than elder in The Sims 2 because that's when she was last seen. Anyway, I maintain The Sims 4 decision to make Bella a secret agent. She becomes very interested in the paranormal and occult through that career and that's how she becomes entangled with aliens (among other things). Meanwhile Cassandra befriends sweet couple Darren Dreamer and Darlene Matlapin at university (who may have an unexpected surprise on the way). Cassandra remains living at Ophelia Villa throughout her university years with her family. She is childhood friends with newly married Mary-Sue Pleasant who is dealing with two stressful toddlers while her husband Daniel navigates the ups and downs (and special benefits) as an up and coming athlete. Young Brandi and Skip Broke also try to make ends meet with their toddler son Dustin in the poorest part of Willow Creek. *Caliente / Lothario:* Meanwhile over in Oasis Springs, Dina and Nina Caliente live with their STEPmother Katrina and her new very young boyfriend Don Lothario. I recreate the Calientes' original TS2 family tree of deceased family members. Their kind mother Nighat passed away when the twins were children (as established in their memories in TS2). While Nina and Dina were in their teens, their father Flamenco went onto marry Katrina Embry. Katrina is impulsive and often irresponsible and may not have married Flamenco for completely pure reasons but grew to love her new husband and her stepdaughters, despite her often tumultuous relationship with them. After Flamenco died suddenly, Katrina had to step up to the plate but struggles to be a decent surrogate mother and has a complicated relationship with her two fiery stepdaughters. She's trying to get rich quick through the entertainment career but will new toyboy Don Lothario mooch all her money from her to pay for medical school, after falling out with his no-nonsense parents Nicolo and Adriana (still alive around TS4 time and also living in Oasis Springs)? *Landgraab:* There's some timeline inconsistencies with the Landgraabs as Malcolm Landgraab should be the same age as Mortimer and Bella and not a teen as he is in The Sims 4. Even staying consistent with Mortimer's age, he would also be too young to be Malcolm Landgraab IV's great-grandfather from The Sims 2. To address the first issue, The Sims 4 is a tiny simulation of families of interest to the aliens and they made some mistakes with the timeline. :D Nevertheless, all the Landgraabs do exist. My backstory is that Nancy Landgraab is the niece of Malcolm Landgraab I (who never appears in any games and who I have made an elder brother of Nancy's father Chester). The Landgraabs are traditionalists with strict age old traditions determining what each member of the family should do. However, Nancy believes she the business acumen and qualities necessary to do the Landgraab name proud. She plays along with her domineering uncle first, marrying Geoffrey (but making him take her name) and giving birth to son John. However, she eventually becomes tired of her uncle's lack of appreciation and has a huge falling out with the family and a schism happens. She chooses the revered name Malcolm for her second son even though Malcolm I had named his own second child Malcolm II his heir. Malcolm II goes onto have The Sims 2 family tree, resulting in Malcolm IV as the most recent generation. Meanwhile, there's plenty of drama with Nancy and Geoffrey as her eldest son John reveals he does not want to build the Landgraab legacy for her and wishes to become a comedian instead. Incensed that her eldest son will not realise all her dreams, she disowns him completely and he goes on to become comedian Johnny Zest. Johnny moves in with permanent college student Michael Bachelor and the two of them buddy around Oasis Springs living a fun, laidback lifestyle and flirting with women. With Johnny gone, Nancy pours all her resources into her second son Malcolm, a quiet good natured boy. When he reaches his teens, he strays away from his father's more good natured tendencies to developing some of his mother's more cut-throat attributes and follows in her footsteps. While Nancy presents herself as a legitimate businesswoman as is the case in The Sims 3, she is secretly involved in some criminal activities which explains in her involvement in the criminal career in The Sims 4. Geoffrey is a doctor as he is in The Sims 4. However, despite his often bumbling appearance and the perception as a pushover, Geoffrey is involved with a secret organisation (that Bella is also apart of) believing themselves to do good that often fight off the amoral secret organisation (that Nancy is part of). Arson is a common tactic used by both resulting in fires plaguing the Goth and Landgraab's family histories and their homes. Malcolm Landgraab (Nancy and Geoffrey's son) changes his surname from Landgraab to Landgrabb (his name on The Sims 1 on console) to differentiate himself from his estranged successful relatives Malcolm II, Malcolm III and Malcolm IV. However, Malcolm Landgrabb becomes a ruthless real estate developer in his own right. He ends up marrying Hannelore (The Sims 3 DS) and having two spoiled children Dudley and Mimi (The Sims 1 console). His relationship will end with Hannelore and he'll take up with the cantankerous, facial loving character known as "Mom" (again as per The Sims on console). Hope you enjoyed the read and an alternative take on establishing a new lore for The Sims 4!
These save files must take so much time to prepare !! Thanks Cindy for this intricate storyline and the detailed descriptions you made for us! Can't wait to play tonight!
This is so creative and such a unique idea! Thank you for all of this work! I'll have to download it I think it totally makes sense that the Pleasantview families live in the sims 4 worlds, since they also lived in different cities in TS3 before they moved to Pleasantview!
I recently found your channel during quarantine, and I love the way you play sims! So different, I downloaded this save file, and I’m fixing it up a little bit in Newcrest before I play. And I’m excited to play with these new rules. Thank you for taking the time to put it all together for people!
I love that you have many different options (Basegame, Basegame + GTW, etc.) depending on the packs that people have, it's very helpful! Thank you for making this and putting all the time into it that you did!!!!
comment; what a labor of love this is cindy! its very clear u love sims 2 and the sims in general and have put a whole lot of care and effort into this storybuilding, i cannot wait to play around with an updated pleasantview
Wow amazing work! I did the same thing in my game but my sims ended up in very different places. For example Lilith and Derren didn't end up together. Lilith grew out of her goth phase and actually grew up to be very successful. Angela got pregnant before she got the chance to go to college and ended up marrying Dustin and raising 3 kids. They live a modest life. She often envious of her sisters freedom and success. In my file Beau is gay and is married to Derren Dreamer. Also the Goths are no longer in charge of the family fortune. Dina married Mortimor and after his death she and her son inherited everything. Cassandra lives a fairly domestic life with Darren and their kids. She doesn't miss her old Goth life but struggles to balance family life and a career. As Darren was an artist he stayed home and raised the kids. Alex married the Lucy Burb and have a young family.
I made a whole new mods folder full of your recommended mods and switched it out with my regular one, downloaded this save file and read up on your gameplay rules and can honestly say I have had the most fun I've had in TS4 for YEARS. Accidentally spent about six hours straight on it today, it genuinely does feel like a proper continuation of TS2, it is so well thought out!
There I am 'huh those names sound really familiar' facepalm! So excited to see your original play through sims again! Can't believe it took so long for me to twig.
I love it! But I think it would be cool that after the Pleasantview damage, some of the families would move to Oasis Springs - the ones that came into my mind are Burbs and Calientes, and maybe also Daniel with Kaylynn to avoid the drama. I also see Alexander's and Beau's families moving out to raise their children in peace. It would make a space to introduce new families (Pancakes and BFFs I think) and to leave some houses empty.
Cindy I loved the save file🌟 and I will love playing with the second generation of Pleasentview made by you😉. I know it's a lot to ask but if you were able to build in this save file, Strangetown in Oasis spring and Veronaville in Windenburg it would be perfect.
Thank you for doing this! I’ve been nonstop binging your stream reuploads, and trying to make sims 4 fun to play and this will be amazing to play with!!
i'm squeeling with joy watching this video, it's absolutely amazing what you did with the sims 4!!!!!! can't wait to play with this, and i hope you also make strangetown in oasis spring
Thank you so much for making this! I’ve been working a long time on my own version of this, but I know that a lot of players have trouble with world-building on their own, and sometimes, I just want to replay my old Sims 2 drama, which I can once again do with your save file 💚
And a lot of people have said this, but you’re SO good at writing and world building!! I’m so curious what kind of books you read because you’re doing something very, very right.
Wow Cindy, you're incredible! You put so much work into making this files. Aren't you tired from that already? 😄 Anyway, thank you so much. I'm still stuck on TS2 and TS3 but maybe I will actually open the TS4 again in this decate.
I can't even imagine how much time this took you!! i've never played the earlier sims games so it never occurred to me that the townies would have lore and backstories.. I always just make my own sims to play with. but now this makes me want to play in your save with all these townies and cause drama 👀
I turned Oasis Springs into an apocalypse after the curios brothers abuduction (in my universe the one with the blond hair never returned home) as well as strangeevile being corrupted by aliens in Oasus Springs and the mother plant possessed sims in strangervile
This was so fun to watch! I’m making a personal save file but I’m working with it being maybe 15 years after sims 3. Also using a little artistic license to bring in some characters from different sims games (i decided that Malcolm and Johnny are brothers, but I also gave them a sister Miriam, or Mimi from the Bustin’ Out game) and kinda crafting some story around that. I also gave them families like making the Bachelors for Bella. Still working on it but I really enjoyed seeing your snapshot of 25 years past Sims 2
No why couldn’t the Sims team do this? Why ruin the lore by making it “an alternative timeline” okay if they were going to do that then give us totally new families then. Thank you so much Cindy. I have your other save file installed right now. I will be playing this one after Snowy escape drops and I’m waiting for the mods to be fixed.
You did so much work. Like you spent so much time and it's obvious. It's sad that you're putting in all this effort that should've been there in the first place. Great Job! I love it!
Strangtown oasis springs and or strangervill would be awsome. Ps small question if Daniel pleasent is noncommittal wouldn't katlyn have talked him into marrying her?
I personally would make Angela a self-employed fisher (or a Conservationist - Marine Biologist if you have Island Living lol) since her bio in TS2 says she wants to become a fishing boat captain. I always make her a Oceanographer when I play Pleasantview haha
I love how you based this on the way your (in)famous TS2 playthrough went; I've always been wanting you to do something like this, especially considering I invested so much time into that playthrough that I feel like that's canon!
Such an epic undertaking and clearly a labor of love. Through all my years of playing I mostly treated the pre-made Sims as window dressing and never paid much attention to their stories. Having said that, I feel the world is a lot more interesting with this kind of attention to detail. Beautiful work! I'm truly impressed!!!
This is such a fantastic save file! I downloaded it about two hours ago and I've spent most of my time so far jazzing up the sims a bit in CAS but the attention to detail in the storytelling side of the save file is absolutely beautiful. I have no words, I just love it so much! Thank you so much for making my Sims 2 stan heart's desire come true! 💜
You make the sims exciting again! I never actually play the game, I always just build because it’s so boring, but this is so amazing. I really missed the rich story lines of the previous iterations. Thank you for all your hard work!
why did I read the title and think it took you 25 years to make this savefile
It felt like it! LOL
Lol
SAME! I THOUGHT IT TOOK HER 25 YEARS AND THAT'S WHY I CLICKED THE VIDEO SINCE I WAS CONFUSED
omg same
SAME
this makes perfect sense. four games, each covering a quarter of a century. sims 3 > sims 1 > sims 2 > sims 4. I love it!
Thanks Stevie!
@@PleasantSims you might actually get me to play sims 4!
Don totally comes across as someone who would be closer to his son and neglect his daughters. He's super insecure about his own masculinity.
haha brutal. i love it.
in my sisters TS4 not so berry game, he has a husband (although he had a child with mint).
I actually play the opposite! In my game he has a little girl called Mel who he absolutely adores. He stopped being a Lothario to take care of her and make sure she grows up well. When she grows up I see them being like besties as she brings boys over and he goes mad.
I've read in a forum that Don is more likely to have girls than boys. Is that true?
I’ve always pictured him like a lothario that is really overprotective of his daughter and even jealous when she becomes a teenager because he “knows how bad boys are” since he’s one
So Cindy is basically telling us that she is a WAY BETTER writer for The Sims than The Sims Team themselves... I'm not surprised😂🤷🏾♂️ But this is so cool! Absolutely love that sims from the first playthrough of Pleasantview are there! Keep up the best work Cindy!💙
I'm really think of remaking this in Ts2 cause I absolutely wanna play this save file! Just not in Ts4😂
Thank you Miles! I know my OG peeps would like that! 💙
How are the sims team lazy in EVERY aspect of the game lol The only thing they put effort in was graphics...
I would actually love to see EA take on writers the way they did builders for the recent pack because of this exact reason.
They definitely need to hire you or better yet make your own simulation game
@@PleasantSims I don't really care about lore, but I really like your style of writing, it feels a lot like the old sims games. The writers in TS4 play it way too safe when compared to the "outrageous"(?) flavor text in TS2/TS3
Personally, I never hated that the Sims 4 was on an alternate timeline. I just hated the lack of _lore_ on these Sims that are supposed to be dramatic and iconic. It's awesome to see how Cindy imagines if the Sims 4 wasn't on an alternate timeline.
Yea this is how I feel, too bad ea could have done sometime really cool and unique. Like imagine a timeline where bella and don were a thing, or all the other possibilities
Same, I have no problem with it being an alternate timeline. Everyone plays the game differently, and this way they aren't locked into saying anything is "canon" meaning you've been playing Sims 2 wrong, or something. But there's no flavor to the expecting storyline in Sims 4. There are just Sims. Even the Pancakes house storyline doesn't make sense - we're supposed to think their relationship is on the rocks, they sleep in separate bedrooms, but every time I play them they have a really high relationship already.
I'm pretty sure the "alternate timeline" is just a bullshit excuse for the lack of effort they put into it. Their "timeline" makes no sense at all.
have you seen cindys video where she fixed the sims in willow creek? like how the bio for travis, summer, and liberty insinuates a love triangle yet they barely know each other... cindy fixed it so that travis is romantically involved with them both. same for all the other bios that are supposed to create drama! i think she is doing the other worlds as well but the only one i can remember rn is get famous
Same, I love the graphics, build mode is amazing! It's the best one out of all the games in my opinion, cas is really good too, it has so many options(if you have all the packs) but the lore is not really good.
I don't know about you, but it always bugged me how in the sims 4 originally (base game), Cassandra Goth was a teen, and Don Lothario is older than her, unlike in the sims 2, where they were, y'know, engaged and almost the same age! It's like they didn't WANT you to recreate that in the sims 4, and pursue that story-line. Plus they pretty much made all of the sims white who were more medium skin toned, (main exampled being Cassandra Goth and Bella Goth, and even Nina and Dina, since I think they were a bit darker in the sims 2 than they are in the sims 4!) They really just did them ALL dirty tbh.
This video actually kinda made me want to make my own sims 4 save with the sims staying mostly the same, but just edited to look more like their sims 2 selves, Bella and Don are the same age, and maybe try to make it to where Bella and Don are engaged? (basically, try to put the sims 2 into the sims 4 the best I can, lol)
(They may not have much to them, though, but my main goal is to just get all of the sims look the same that they do in the sims 2, not edit relationships really, since i dont know how, and if i choose to share it, people can just do whatever they want with the rest of it!)
Originally? That never changed afaik
@@dundee6402 Well by originally I just mean when you first start the game. You can of course customize them further to fix them and thats what I meant. Originally = before you personalize things
@@twigkin3056 Considering Bella rejected a kiss from Don, engaging them would do nothing xDD. I think you mean Cassandra and Don
It's so clear how much you really care about the families and their stories. It's pretty obvious that the EA team didn't really care about the townies, and that gave me the impression that you weren't supposed to play them (oops). As I've never played any previous EA games I thought that townies were sort of for decoration, and only existed to make the worlds look less,,,, dead? Although I assume if I had begun playing previous games instead of just TS4 I wouldn't have had this issue. Great video! Keep it up!
Thank you! I know exactly what you mean. The Sims 4 is the first game in the series where I DON'T play the premade families and have to make my own. They really didn't seem to care about the lore in this installment unfortunately.
Same, I played sims 1 when I was 6, BUT never really paid attention.... Then I started sims 4 (when I was 20) and I thought they were for decor, until I saw Chrillsims3's lore videos that there's actual stories and its sad to see sims 4 in an alternate timeline..... smh
IMO the best part of the older sims games was the possibility for both. As it is right now, simmers HAVE to make their own families or else its just boring. The older games had families with stories and relationships which made them interesting to play. The way CAS was improved has helped but not everyone likes CAS.
Been playing sims 4 for a while now and installed sims 3 to try recently. Its really not the same. Sims 3 clearly more in depth. But still i wish some of the mechanic of sims 4 was ported to sims 3. Like multi tasking.
@@SasukeUchiha723 in mine Bella is raising an alien baby in strangervile
Now imma wait for strangetown and veronaville 25 years later
Hehehehe
NGL I’d get Sims 4 base game just to play Cindy’s 25-years-later Pleasantview, Strangetown, and Veronaville. 😅
saaaaaame
@@krisb.1565 You missed it when it was free last year 😔
@@PleasantSims I think you should use oasis springs for strange town since it’s a desert world like strange town, and new rest for Veronaville,
Thanks for watching everyone! There are now four versions on the download page for expansion packs if you have them. The main save file remains base game compatible. Hope you have fun playing these Sims!
Also, I forgot to introduce Casper Goth! He's a creative art lover, who I can see growing up to be a sensitive artist. :)
And one more thing - Dina and Nina's ages don't match. I know. I'm fixing it. UPDATE: Ages are fixed.
Update #2 - Don and Dina don't know each other. Thank you for pointing that out! I am fixing it now. UPDATE: The relationship is fixed now.
I won't be able to read all the comment on this video, so if you find anything else that needs to be fixed, please leave a comment on the blog post. Thank you!
Cindy, to reset the ages of the sims, with the UI Cheats mod place the mouse cursor over the age bar and click with the left button, so put the number of days the Sim has and put a "-" and that's it, reserved age!
would you be willing to do a review of that new sims 4 open world mod?
@@Viniciusvill Thanks! That's how I set the ages in this save, but it doesn't change the number of days lived unfortunately. :(
So first off I love everything about this series I love the detail I love their looks and the story progression and it’s awesome please continue this I adore this series you’re making want to play this version lol
I can’t wait to see more. Why hasn’t EA hired her yet lol. I’m still awe of e story and the flawless continuation of the stories.
Dina is very open minded about her son’s relationship. We stan a skinny, scamming queen!
Lmaoooooo. Oh your husband works a job? Y'all come move in w momma
@@brett443 LMAOOO
You should do another savefile that is 25 years before the sims 3. That would be really cool.
That would be fun too!
OMG yes do this!
ooooh with all the Victorian themed items that could be super interesting!
well Victorian/rustic lmao
@@PleasantSims You could design Newcrest to be a prequel to all the games, do a Sims 3 and have the different world on different timelines.
I love how the new generation sims are based off your original pleasantview lets play, can’t wait to download!
Thanks paris! It only made sense to me and I wanted to keep playing these Sims - but in a different setting.
I like to think that Don traveling to the past in TS3 somehow made TS4 an alternate timeline
That's an interesting take!
@@PleasantSims also how Alexander Goth may have time travelled!
@@knaesh yeah, that too
I feel like after Bella got abducted by aliens she landed in the Sims 4 universe
There's a whole theory about this, and how it relates to Bella's disappearance. Plumbella made a video on it, and I think you can find it if you search up "alex plays sims bella goth theory."
Im sorry if its hard but can you try to make oasis spring/strangerville strange town? Its my 2 favorite town in the sims games... thank you, your videos makes me very happy in this quarentine!
Thank you for watching Anna! :)
I'm sure that's her plan hehehe ;)
Maybe the town changed its name to attract more residents lol
@@basil33 haha maybe! Good one 😂
You need Get to Work for that 😉 She said she would do the GTW save soon.
You are the saving grace the Sims 4 needs, but doesn't deserve.
Thank you so much!
Take a shot every time Cindy says "Completely remodeled" xD
EA should have you create the sims and stories for The Sims 5... If that game ever happens 😂
I would love to! LOL. But that would never happen!
We should start a petition!!! 🤩🥰
Can we just wipe Sims 4 off the face of the earth?
Pleasant Sims, don't rule it out completely. Sammyhotstud was one of the original devs for the Sims 4. I had created a call center mod for the Sims 2 that ALMOST no one downloaded, because everyone was playing the Sims 3 by then. Sammyhotstud downloaded it and loved it. It's now part of the tech career in ts4. Never say never, because you never know who might be using your mods and saves!
YES PELEASE, WHERE DO I SIGN FOR THAT?!
Pleasantview flooding sounds like what happened to my parish after hurricane Katrina hit us 😅 completely flooded, coastal town, lots of people left bc of the destruction! I feel seen LOL
You did an amazing job once again at creating actual lore for the series! Your hard work is appreciated ❤️
Aww, so sorry you had to deal with that!
@@PleasantSims Thank you❤️ Since Willow Creek was based on New Orleans/Louisiana architecture, I think the story you created tracks really well, even if not intentional.
This video reminded me why I LOVED Sims 2. The game having lore & feeling like you're playing with established lives really made the game that much more fun. This so looks amazing!!
A very interesting and complexed save file!
Ofc with some eps it's gonna be even better but this is what Sims 4 should have been!
Your efforts to make Sims 4 alive are for every appriciation,amazing job!
Interesting backstories ✔
Connected families ✔
Space for player's own vision ✔
EA take a note
Thank you!! I tried to make it as fun and interesting as the game would allow. We needed some good stories so badly!
When you realize that the save file is based in her first pleasantview lets play 😭❤️😭❤️ thank you so much for this !
I sincerely admire your dedication to the lore that even creators lack, it's so nice to see every little touch to detail in this neighborhood and how true these sims are to their sims 2 selves.
Thanks so much Paulina!
Cindy this is very interesting ! Your save file make me wanna reinstall sims 4 just to play them! I wish they went with this idea for the lore in sims 4 but then again they’d probably screw it up as always
Thank you! I really wish they made Sims 4 a continuation of the series too. But I guess we have to do it ourselves!
you’re the key to the sims community !
Aww, thank you so much!
My question is why can’t the Sims Team do something like this this is absolutely amazing and I love it but is it really that hard for me to do something with us because it seems to be I’m just happy that you did it thank you you brought what is Sims four should’ve been to life
I’ve only ever played TS4 but this feels so much more well rounded and fun. Everyone knows each other, related sims are actually in each other’s family trees, the stories give you something to play off? And the next gen sims have histories! I’m amazed every time you make files like this
Ahhh I love that you linked this to your Pleasantview series! EA should hang their head in shame, how much Lore did you cram in here!
Thank you Jasmine! I tried to make the stories as in-depth as I could!
@@PleasantSims your hard work shines through, you might actually get me to reinstall the sims 4 lol
I love how this is based off of your Sims 2 story! Will there be a save file where Cassandra and Mary-Sue are married? I thought that was such a cute storyline from your original Pleasantview LP 🥺
The original LP spanned 35 years, and this is only 25 years so they aren't together yet. But they are both single and ready to mingle! Lol
Them, married? Why do I suddenly want to see that? XD
this gives depth to the game and it makes it coherent and connected with the other games, as it should have been. you're really out here saving ts4 for us 😊❤️
Thank you Kit Kat! So happy you like it!
This is just making me want to create a save of my own and blend some Sim/households from all previous games that aren't so popular and throw them in my game. Anyways, I might download this too. It's just so very well detailed~ Love it
I hope you do! It's really fun to make our own world the perfect way we like it. :)
@@PleasantSims Definitely is worth it!
There’s a family in the bin, in sims 2, the parents have been on some tv show that took place in the future is something like that? They are so interesting! If i remember correctly they have a terrible relationship with their kid, so I make them get a dog för the kid that becomes his best friend, and I make the parents spend all their time with the kid too. There’s something erie about them, and their house, it’s like a tv set kind of.
@@missundies i remember them ! Is their household ok to play tho ? Especially when all the corrupt sims 2 had ?
better than the "not part of the timeline/alternate timeline" by EA
I thought so!
Much better. That alternate timeline is so lazy.
Cindy not only gave us the DEPTH the Sims 4 desperately needs, she also gave us WIDTH, LENGTH AND HEIGHT 😂😍. Thanks for this! A strangetown one would be amazing. Regards from Chile
I LOVE this willow creek save! I like how you continued your original PV
Glad you like it!
I really love this idea and putting Sims from the OG SIms 2 PV Let's Play makes me happy.
Thank you Hendrik! It makes me happy too! I have missed these Sims!
EA needs to hire Cindy to write the stories for the sims. Also I hope she does a let's play of this neighborhood.
This seems like sentiments would add a lot to it. Btw, your dedication, I could never...
I know! I can't wait to see how sentiments play out in this save. I will update it when the new expansion is released if cheat codes are available for adding sentiments. And thank you!
omg i completely loved this. You should consider making a series on this save file for the sims 4!
I just might!
This is so amazing and well thought out I’m obsessed!! I can’t imagine how much work this must have taken literally everything has been thought through
I love how you've carried on their stories. I'm genuinely tempted to play TS4 for the first time in months just to try your save out! Great job. ☺️
Thanks Jade! If you do, I hope you enjoy it. I'm trying my best to find some enjoyment from this game even if it will never be as good as the older games.
Aaahhh! I literally just finished cc-ifying the Sims in the original save file, and then here comes this one, which is exactly what I had always hoped S4 would be. Grabbing this one right the heck away, and tomorrow is Saturday, oh whatever shall I do?
this really is an excellent direction for these characters to go in. it all makes perfect sense for them. i can tell you really care about these characters (far more than ea, lbr) and paid a lot of attention to who they were, which fed into who they became
Wow you single handily put in more effort in these stories, sims relationships and houses than ts4 team/gurus. The whole alternative timeline is just a cop out. Anyways this is just amazing.
Great job btw! What I am missing from this story which could add even more depht / realism;
- sims with negative traits and backstory, like anger management issues (hot headed), narcisism (self absorted)
- different body types, for example Daniel Pleasant’s son struggle with his weight due to his depression of their parents divorce and it makes Daniel bully him as he is a big sportsman etc.
- maybe some really extreme case when a teen ran away and living alone or somebody lost everything due to divorce or some unhealthy habit (partiing maybe) and went homeless (empty lot with a tent)
- more people of color
- pets (I know it’s not basegame)
Girl I'm halfway through the video but I already wanna thank you for reconnecting me with my younger self who got absolutely ABSORBED by the stories on the Sims 2, and didn't realise how much I was missing that in ts4 until now , you did amazing, thank u!!
She used her first pleasentview from a cuople years ago. Man i loved those videos , and the ones up to day. Love you videos.
Thank you! I missed those Sims and wanted to bring them to Sims 4!
27:01 fun fact: in the sims 3, lhere is a Langerak family with Kaylynn as a child.
This is fun! I might try this one out, the only reason I haven't so far is because I haven't played the Sims 4 in months! But your save file is fun, and pretty different than other ones I've stumbled across. I enjoy the lore based stuff!
Me too! The lore is what makes the game for me! I hope you enjoy it if you try it out.
this is DELICIOUS i always loved how sims 2 started with some JUICE and ZEST to it. mid action even! the details in 2 were so lovely that it is still amazing today even if the games code was held together with rubber bands and paper clips
I have a few questions:
-Why is not Alexander married to Cecile Goth like in the Goth family lore?
-Why if Cassandra, Daniel, Mary, Brandy, Don, Dina and Nina, are around the same age in the sims 2, (also in the sims 1 Cassandra and Daniel are the same life stage), Daniel, Mary-Sue, and Brandy are elders and not the others? Aslo the same goes for Darren, isn't he supposed to have around the same age with Cassandra?
-In the sims 3 why is Keighleen Langreak (I hope i wrote it right, I'm very bad with names) a child in the sims 3 when she wasn't suppossed to be born in that time line?
-Did Bella and Mortimer lived a happy life after she managed to come back?
-Why the sims 4 doesn't have personal bios? Wouldn't it be better if EA added them? Would it be possible to accesit from the CAS
I just started to make questions trying to remember another question that I couldn't remember.
Pretty sure they're not meant to be all the same age, idk about the days but there are many errors when it comes to that in the original games. The adult life stage in Sims 3 and 4 lasts from 35 to 59, and in Sims 2 it also includes the young adult stage (or at least, a huge chunk of it, if you exclude the time at the University) so also the ages from 18 to 34. Dina and Nina and Don being the same age as parents of teenagers would not make that much sense from the perspective of the events as well.
Sims 3 is the same timeline as the originals, so Kaylynn being born makes sense - for some reason though, they made her around the same age as Mortimer and Bella, which doesn't make sense, because she would have probably been an elder by the time of Sims 2.
So there are theories that Kaylynn Langerak in Sims 2 is not the same Kaylynn Langerak in Sims 3. My favorite thing to do is to have her be Parker's daughter who takes after her aunt, who is her namesake. Fixed that 10-something year jump real quick. I mean it's pretty obvious someone just hand waved the math in the storyline but that's what I did to make it make sense to me since in the sims 3 her brother Parker is a teenager and would be an elder and could have an adult daughter in the sims 2. Also, Kaylynn is not playable in the sims 2 initially and has aging turned off so she really could be the same age as the others it's just the aging doesn't progress for townies until you start playing them and it starts at the beginning of that life stage whereas she should be towards the end and almost an elder.
I actually feel emotional. This is what I always wanted for The Sims 4 - to actually have a part in the storyline and not just be a compilation of random sims in random life stages. It feels magical to see these sims later in life, thank you! 💕
Gosh! This Is so cool Cindy! I'm also trying to make a save file, mostly for myself, and after I discovered your channel I've became so obsessed with The Sims 2, that I had to make a version of the Base game Sims In the sims 4, thank you for your videos and for being so inspiring!
Side note! I think Jennifer Burb would be In the Sports career, considering her dream to play soccer In Sims 1 ( just a thought!)
Thanks! Glad you like it and find some inspiration from my content!
PS. Jennifer's Bio in Sims 2 says "Jennifer used to dream of being a soccer superstar, but now she's quite happy to focus on being fashionable and stylish instead."
Oh yeah... lol , i literally forgot about the personal bio! I wish we still had them
@@guto2849 Me too!!!
Wow! I never even play with premade families, but I kinda grew attached to all of Sims 2 families from your let's plays and seeing all this work you put into make TS4 storyline better and make more sense, it's amazing! Thank you! This is absolutely awesome!
Fun new stories for The Sims 2! Like that you included all The Sims from your The Sims 2 Let's Plays but where is Sam Burb (John and Jennifer's fifth child)? :D
I also hate that EA lazily went the alternative timeline route. I "fix" The Sims 4 by incorporating all the lore from the first three games while not erasing the new characters / scenarios that were introduced in The Sims 4. It's a lot of work but hope you enjoy reading the novel I wrote below. :D
Here's what I do for the core families that exist across multiple games. The established Sims continuity is that The Sims 3 comes first, The Sims 1 occurs 25 years later and The Sims 2 storyline occurs 25 years after. I establish The Sims 4 as taking place 10 years before the events of The Sims 2 (which mostly fits except for the Landgraabs and the Pleasants / Brokes / Dreamers they shoehorn in later in the series - I explain this by saying The Sims 4 is an alien's very small simulation of earthling families their interested in, which explains timeline inconsistencies but that most events that happen in The Sims 4 occured as per The Sims 4, just at different times with some inconsistencies).
*Goth / Crumplebottom (and Brokes and Pleasants):* First of all, I recreate the deceased ancestors of the Goths. A Goth home without a graveyard is not a Goth house. Unfortunately, their backyard is too small to have the graveyard I want so I have to build an underground mausoleum instead. I recreate all the deceased Goths - Mortimer's father Gunther, his paternal grandparents Victor and Gretle, his late aunt Frida and his late grand-uncle Samuel and his late wife Olivia (from The Sims 3: Supernatural). Gunther's first wife Lolita (ghost named Lolita Goth appears in Sunset Valley in The Sims 3) is also there. Mortimer's maternal grandparents Simon and Prudence are also buried here in addition to his aunt Agnes Crumplebottom. I have a sad backstory for Agnes. After Erik Darling died in The Sims 3, she adopted a child. She then went on to marry Robert Crumplebottom (who was mentioned as her husband in The Sims 1 and he may or may not be a distant relative - but hey the Crumplebottoms are rich aristocrats)! She went on to have three more children with Robert. Robert was a philanthroper, puppeteer (and magician in my game); and the Crumplebottoms went onto live a life of adventure on the road. But an accident went wrong on the road (maybe actual nefarious magic was involved) which resulted in Robert and Agnes' three eldest children perishing (Robert and the children went onto become the ghosts of Vegas, Cousin, Bratty and Boy who were in the Goth graveyard in The Sims 1). Robert Crumplebottom is also the brother of the Crumplebottom witches who appear in The Sims 3: Supernatural.
Agnes has one remaining son Derek who she smothered with affection but became embittered otherwise. Derek married a woman very much like his mother named Missy Crumplebottom. I intend for Derek to die tragically at some point in my game with Missy becoming the Mrs. Crumplebottom we meet in The Sims 2. Bella's family are also buried in the Goth mausoleum including Simis Bachelor, Jocasta Bachelor, Simis' parents Milton and Enriqueta and I created parents Yiannis and Eleni for Jocasta Bachelor as it annoyed me that her parents were missing.
Back to the present day Goths in The Sims 4, Cornelia Goth is still alive as Cassandra's memories in The Sims 2 indicate that Cornelia didn't die until Cassandra became an adult. I have recently bereaved Cornelia and her two very elderly cats Hecuba and Menelaus from The Sims: Unleashed move in to Ophelia Villa. However, I age Cassandra up to the start of her young adult years, ready to attend university as there should be a wide age gap between her and Alexander. I age Alexander down to a toddler as toddlers didn't exist in The Sims 4 at launch. Bella is aged up from young adult to adult as her and Mortimer should be around the same age. I believe she's just shown as an adult rather than elder in The Sims 2 because that's when she was last seen. Anyway, I maintain The Sims 4 decision to make Bella a secret agent. She becomes very interested in the paranormal and occult through that career and that's how she becomes entangled with aliens (among other things). Meanwhile Cassandra befriends sweet couple Darren Dreamer and Darlene Matlapin at university (who may have an unexpected surprise on the way). Cassandra remains living at Ophelia Villa throughout her university years with her family. She is childhood friends with newly married Mary-Sue Pleasant who is dealing with two stressful toddlers while her husband Daniel navigates the ups and downs (and special benefits) as an up and coming athlete. Young Brandi and Skip Broke also try to make ends meet with their toddler son Dustin in the poorest part of Willow Creek.
*Caliente / Lothario:* Meanwhile over in Oasis Springs, Dina and Nina Caliente live with their STEPmother Katrina and her new very young boyfriend Don Lothario. I recreate the Calientes' original TS2 family tree of deceased family members. Their kind mother Nighat passed away when the twins were children (as established in their memories in TS2). While Nina and Dina were in their teens, their father Flamenco went onto marry Katrina Embry. Katrina is impulsive and often irresponsible and may not have married Flamenco for completely pure reasons but grew to love her new husband and her stepdaughters, despite her often tumultuous relationship with them. After Flamenco died suddenly, Katrina had to step up to the plate but struggles to be a decent surrogate mother and has a complicated relationship with her two fiery stepdaughters. She's trying to get rich quick through the entertainment career but will new toyboy Don Lothario mooch all her money from her to pay for medical school, after falling out with his no-nonsense parents Nicolo and Adriana (still alive around TS4 time and also living in Oasis Springs)?
*Landgraab:* There's some timeline inconsistencies with the Landgraabs as Malcolm Landgraab should be the same age as Mortimer and Bella and not a teen as he is in The Sims 4. Even staying consistent with Mortimer's age, he would also be too young to be Malcolm Landgraab IV's great-grandfather from The Sims 2. To address the first issue, The Sims 4 is a tiny simulation of families of interest to the aliens and they made some mistakes with the timeline. :D Nevertheless, all the Landgraabs do exist. My backstory is that Nancy Landgraab is the niece of Malcolm Landgraab I (who never appears in any games and who I have made an elder brother of Nancy's father Chester). The Landgraabs are traditionalists with strict age old traditions determining what each member of the family should do. However, Nancy believes she the business acumen and qualities necessary to do the Landgraab name proud. She plays along with her domineering uncle first, marrying Geoffrey (but making him take her name) and giving birth to son John. However, she eventually becomes tired of her uncle's lack of appreciation and has a huge falling out with the family and a schism happens. She chooses the revered name Malcolm for her second son even though Malcolm I had named his own second child Malcolm II his heir. Malcolm II goes onto have The Sims 2 family tree, resulting in Malcolm IV as the most recent generation.
Meanwhile, there's plenty of drama with Nancy and Geoffrey as her eldest son John reveals he does not want to build the Landgraab legacy for her and wishes to become a comedian instead. Incensed that her eldest son will not realise all her dreams, she disowns him completely and he goes on to become comedian Johnny Zest. Johnny moves in with permanent college student Michael Bachelor and the two of them buddy around Oasis Springs living a fun, laidback lifestyle and flirting with women. With Johnny gone, Nancy pours all her resources into her second son Malcolm, a quiet good natured boy. When he reaches his teens, he strays away from his father's more good natured tendencies to developing some of his mother's more cut-throat attributes and follows in her footsteps. While Nancy presents herself as a legitimate businesswoman as is the case in The Sims 3, she is secretly involved in some criminal activities which explains in her involvement in the criminal career in The Sims 4. Geoffrey is a doctor as he is in The Sims 4. However, despite his often bumbling appearance and the perception as a pushover, Geoffrey is involved with a secret organisation (that Bella is also apart of) believing themselves to do good that often fight off the amoral secret organisation (that Nancy is part of). Arson is a common tactic used by both resulting in fires plaguing the Goth and Landgraab's family histories and their homes.
Malcolm Landgraab (Nancy and Geoffrey's son) changes his surname from Landgraab to Landgrabb (his name on The Sims 1 on console) to differentiate himself from his estranged successful relatives Malcolm II, Malcolm III and Malcolm IV. However, Malcolm Landgrabb becomes a ruthless real estate developer in his own right. He ends up marrying Hannelore (The Sims 3 DS) and having two spoiled children Dudley and Mimi (The Sims 1 console). His relationship will end with Hannelore and he'll take up with the cantankerous, facial loving character known as "Mom" (again as per The Sims on console).
Hope you enjoyed the read and an alternative take on establishing a new lore for The Sims 4!
Sam isn’t there, because this is 25 years later, and I think Sam was born after 25 years
These save files must take so much time to prepare !! Thanks Cindy for this intricate storyline and the detailed descriptions you made for us! Can't wait to play tonight!
I like how you added some sims of your sims 2 playthrough like Debra and Ivan to this
I really missed them!
This is so creative and such a unique idea! Thank you for all of this work! I'll have to download it
I think it totally makes sense that the Pleasantview families live in the sims 4 worlds, since they also lived in different cities in TS3 before they moved to Pleasantview!
I agree! But I had to think of a logical reason they would all move. It works for me!
I’m so glad your mansion opposite the Landgraabs is rotated, I thought I was the only one?!
I recently found your channel during quarantine, and I love the way you play sims! So different, I downloaded this save file, and I’m fixing it up a little bit in Newcrest before I play.
And I’m excited to play with these new rules. Thank you for taking the time to put it all together for people!
Amazing Cindy!! Cant wait to play with the families
Thanks MItch! Hope you like it!
I love that you have many different options (Basegame, Basegame + GTW, etc.) depending on the packs that people have, it's very helpful! Thank you for making this and putting all the time into it that you did!!!!
Me when this has way more depth and storytelling than sims 4 entirely
Cindy's over here doing The Lord's work! Thank you so much for taking the time to make this and add some well-needed lore to the game!
comment; what a labor of love this is cindy! its very clear u love sims 2 and the sims in general and have put a whole lot of care and effort into this storybuilding, i cannot wait to play around with an updated pleasantview
Oops! You're right! They absolutely should know each other and actually should have a little romance too. I will update that now! Thank you!
I’m not a sims 4 player, but this is truly amazing!!! I love all the details and the continuation of your OG pleasantview. Amazing as always, Cindy 😊
Wow amazing work! I did the same thing in my game but my sims ended up in very different places. For example Lilith and Derren didn't end up together. Lilith grew out of her goth phase and actually grew up to be very successful. Angela got pregnant before she got the chance to go to college and ended up marrying Dustin and raising 3 kids. They live a modest life. She often envious of her sisters freedom and success. In my file Beau is gay and is married to Derren Dreamer. Also the Goths are no longer in charge of the family fortune. Dina married Mortimor and after his death she and her son inherited everything. Cassandra lives a fairly domestic life with Darren and their kids. She doesn't miss her old Goth life but struggles to balance family life and a career. As Darren was an artist he stayed home and raised the kids. Alex married the Lucy Burb and have a young family.
I made a whole new mods folder full of your recommended mods and switched it out with my regular one, downloaded this save file and read up on your gameplay rules and can honestly say I have had the most fun I've had in TS4 for YEARS. Accidentally spent about six hours straight on it today, it genuinely does feel like a proper continuation of TS2, it is so well thought out!
There I am 'huh those names sound really familiar' facepalm! So excited to see your original play through sims again! Can't believe it took so long for me to twig.
Lol! Thank you Tilly! I'm so happy to have them back again too!
@@PleasantSims
Would like to add that I appreciate the cheeky retcon of Rosa not dying of flu 😂
I can't imagine how you found time to do all that, not just the families but remodeling all the houses too, in between all the other things you do!
It took a while! Lol
I’m loving the og pleasantview sims representing
I love it! But I think it would be cool that after the Pleasantview damage, some of the families would move to Oasis Springs - the ones that came into my mind are Burbs and Calientes, and maybe also Daniel with Kaylynn to avoid the drama. I also see Alexander's and Beau's families moving out to raise their children in peace. It would make a space to introduce new families (Pancakes and BFFs I think) and to leave some houses empty.
Cindy I loved the save file🌟 and I will love playing with the second generation of Pleasentview made by you😉. I know it's a lot to ask but if you were able to build in this save file, Strangetown in Oasis spring and Veronaville in Windenburg it would be perfect.
Thank you! And it is definitely something I'm looking into!
i love how you used the sims from your plesantview lets play, and not only the premade ones!
Oh man, this makes want to reinstall TS4 just to play this save. If only TS4 wasn't so shallow to begin with since I still only have the base game.
Thank you for doing this! I’ve been nonstop binging your stream reuploads, and trying to make sims 4 fun to play and this will be amazing to play with!!
14:33 We stan a mature queen.
i'm squeeling with joy watching this video, it's absolutely amazing what you did with the sims 4!!!!!! can't wait to play with this, and i hope you also make strangetown in oasis spring
omg i really want to do something like this for my own game now !!!
You really should! It's fun to make the game just how YOU want it.
Thank you so much for making this! I’ve been working a long time on my own version of this, but I know that a lot of players have trouble with world-building on their own, and sometimes, I just want to replay my old Sims 2 drama, which I can once again do with your save file 💚
And a lot of people have said this, but you’re SO good at writing and world building!! I’m so curious what kind of books you read because you’re doing something very, very right.
I read fantasy and historical fiction! Lol
Wow Cindy, you're incredible! You put so much work into making this files. Aren't you tired from that already? 😄 Anyway, thank you so much. I'm still stuck on TS2 and TS3 but maybe I will actually open the TS4 again in this decate.
NEVER! Lol. I love doing this!
Crazy to believe I’ve been here since 2k (life is crazy and I’ve strayed, but I still love your gameplay Cindy!)
I can't even imagine how much time this took you!! i've never played the earlier sims games so it never occurred to me that the townies would have lore and backstories.. I always just make my own sims to play with. but now this makes me want to play in your save with all these townies and cause drama 👀
I turned Oasis Springs into an apocalypse after the curios brothers abuduction (in my universe the one with the blond hair never returned home) as well as strangeevile being corrupted by aliens in Oasus Springs and the mother plant possessed sims in strangervile
Never jumped on a world save so fast before. I almost don't want to play it too much for fear of ruining a lovingly crafted masterpiece. :)
Aww! Thanks so much Jake! But I encourage you to go in there and start up the drama! Lol
I'm genuinely annoyed that your channel isn't bigger. Quality content, great personality, and an absolutely adorable giggle! Loooove this save file.
1:16 OMG! I loved the story of how they got to Willlow Creek!
Thank you! I had to think of something that would explain it!
This was so fun to watch! I’m making a personal save file but I’m working with it being maybe 15 years after sims 3. Also using a little artistic license to bring in some characters from different sims games (i decided that Malcolm and Johnny are brothers, but I also gave them a sister Miriam, or Mimi from the Bustin’ Out game) and kinda crafting some story around that. I also gave them families like making the Bachelors for Bella. Still working on it but I really enjoyed seeing your snapshot of 25 years past Sims 2
No why couldn’t the Sims team do this? Why ruin the lore by making it “an alternative timeline” okay if they were going to do that then give us totally new families then. Thank you so much Cindy. I have your other save file installed right now. I will be playing this one after Snowy escape drops and I’m waiting for the mods to be fixed.
Thank you Roxie! I hope you like it!
You’re an angel!!! 😭😭 You really poured your heart into this 😩❤️
ok literally EA "GAME CHANGER", they could never!
You did so much work. Like you spent so much time and it's obvious. It's sad that you're putting in all this effort that should've been there in the first place. Great Job! I love it!
Strangtown oasis springs and or strangervill would be awsome.
Ps small question if Daniel pleasent is noncommittal wouldn't katlyn have talked him into marrying her?
Probably. Lol
I personally would make Angela a self-employed fisher (or a Conservationist - Marine Biologist if you have Island Living lol) since her bio in TS2 says she wants to become a fishing boat captain. I always make her a Oceanographer when I play Pleasantview haha
I love how you based this on the way your (in)famous TS2 playthrough went; I've always been wanting you to do something like this, especially considering I invested so much time into that playthrough that I feel like that's canon!
Such an epic undertaking and clearly a labor of love. Through all my years of playing I mostly treated the pre-made Sims as window dressing and never paid much attention to their stories. Having said that, I feel the world is a lot more interesting with this kind of attention to detail. Beautiful work! I'm truly impressed!!!
This is perfect! I love seeing an established family tree and story in my sims but it takes so much time. Thank you for doing this
This is such a fantastic save file! I downloaded it about two hours ago and I've spent most of my time so far jazzing up the sims a bit in CAS but the attention to detail in the storytelling side of the save file is absolutely beautiful. I have no words, I just love it so much! Thank you so much for making my Sims 2 stan heart's desire come true! 💜
This was so incredible and inspiring. The sims team could NEVER 😅 Thank you for sharing - it must have taken so much time! I love the name Ivan, too!
This looks really neat. I love that it uses that storyline from your Pleastantview videos, and I'm looking forward to playing this.
You make the sims exciting again! I never actually play the game, I always just build because it’s so boring, but this is so amazing. I really missed the rich story lines of the previous iterations. Thank you for all your hard work!
Thank you so much for creating this, Cindy! Creating save files takes so much work so its awesome you're doing this!