Enfield No.4 (T) faux Sniper 🏁 Speedway [ Long Range On the Clock ] - Practical Accuracy
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The Lee Enfield No.4 (T) Sniper was amongst one of the best sniper variants devised during World War 2. The highly efficient 10 round capacity of the Lee Enfield no.4 was a great base rifle, putting out sufficient accuracy (especially after re-worked by Holland & Holland).
While our Faux No.4 T sniper doesn't have the British standard no.32 optic, it uses a 2.5x vintage optic that was comparable to a rare Canadian contract model that used a Lyman Alaskan commercial optic.
So how fast can it go? We find out.
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You guys should do a series where a modern optic is put on a vintage rifle and a vintage optic on a modern rifle. I think results would be interesting.
Oh, THAT would be sweet!
I’d love to see that.
That would be clever. Great idea.
I would love to see the Lee-Enfield and k98 with modern optics on them.
this
Henry’s version of the mad minute. Got to love the Enfield action it’s just iconic.
The No4 Mk1 was the first gun I ever owned. It was out of a WWII vet's home that my grandmother was clearing out. It was beat up and missing some parts, but all the mechanical bits were in good shape. It's been a joy to have a shoot and I loved watching it in action with Henry on the bolt.
Same rifle was my first centerfire rifle. Sporterized, but functions fine. Too bad 303 is not common to find on the shelf for decent prices in USA.
'RIFLE.' Artillery have 'guns,' infantry possess 'RIFLES.'
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographicyes they have 303 ammo in texas
the last time I fired a No.4 as in 1984 as an army cadet here in the UK in competition @ Bisley it rained very heavy that day and the ground sheet I laid on turned into a swimming pool lol .. great times.. thanks for bringing back the memory
I remember shooting at Bisley, but in '85 with the No.4, loved the feel of it, was saddened when we went to the L98A1 cadet rifle, was a better shot with the longer No.4. Later owned a No.4 but re-chambered for 7.64x51
180 buck antique rifle clearing the course in 3 mins, with real world environmental. Can't grumble at that plus 2 mag reloads. Bravo.
may have been an australian thing but according to my father ( korea)and uncles ( new Guinea, new Britain, bougainville) it wasn't unusual to carry a informally sourced spare loaded magazine
As a Brit. I can confirm the Aussies didn't particularly give a shit about regulations if they worked out a solution that did the job better, and I entirely respect them for that. A lot of changes to equipment and doctrine, particularly during the Pacific campaign were based on feedback and fixes from the men on the ground, to a much greater extent than the British army ever did.
Informally sourced spare magazines were not unusual in Europe either. Goes back even further, I inherited my Grandfathers No1 Mk III after he died, and it came with not one but three magazines. Grandad fought in WWI, not WWII, Royal Welch Fusiliers, so this was a time when the magazines were supposedly chained to the rifle (yes the chains were all missing). We still have no idea of how he got it back to the UK, but as I had my FAC at the time of his death I was able to register it with little issue. I still have it, and still shoot it. All I have done is had a new barrel made. I still have the old barrel, but a lot of rounds were thrown through that old rifle, so while I keep the old barrel, I shoot it with the new one. I do not want to risk wearing out the original barrel as it does show signs of serious use!
Not like I will be selling the thing, that rifle has a great deal of personal significance, more so than any other rifle I own as you may imagine.
Years ago, I recall an article where a Brit sniper wrote that he fit different mags from a pile of after battle No4Mk1s until he had two additional mags that functioned to his liking in his rifle. He then had three good mags with 30 rounds for easy reloads. I don't recall dialogue about this becoming his normal load out. Thanks for the video.
The Lee-Enfield No.4 (faux) T. It's been way too long since she came back on the show. And all things considered, the rifle in Henry's hands proved capable through the course. Congrats to both of you, Henry and Josh!
Although... it might've been just a fumble of speech, but I can't get over the fact that at 26:34, Josh sounded like he was about to cry.
Looked like he was gonna cry too 🥹
That was some very quick and skilled magazine reloading.
No rimlock here!
Pity he didn't have clips available...
Really difficult environment to deal with, but very impressive work on the reloading side. Shows how much of a benefit modern rifles get with 20 or 30 round magazines.
Unless you live in the People's Republic of Commifornia. (PRC). Only 10 rounders here, and our glorious leader hopes to repeal the 2nd ammendment so that only his bodyguards, the cartels and drug addicts have guns.
I have an old PU and I can definitely confirm that sometimes irons are better than old glass. If the humidity is to high, or a number of other factors you might as well just use your irons. Really makes you appreciate modern glass.
I have a No 4T with the correct No 32 optic that I am looking forward to shooting soon. It is in pristine condition and the scope has the brass shade and most of the original paint intact.
lucky bugger, I'm soooo envious
Combat shooting at speed with stress is a great test of the shooter and equipment. The weather conditions just add another element of difficulty. This video just goes to show that a well trained person with a bolt action is a force to be reckoned with.
Love seeing these old rifles run! Great shooting Henry!
You dont need to worry about rimlock if you are using proper 303 brass as it is chamfered at the rear.
I think it was Bloke on the range who tested this and showed that even having every round "rimlocked" they fed just fine.
From memory stripper clips require you to stagger the rounds (every other round "rimlocked") to fill them up.
American commercial ammo has squared rims similar to other popular American rimmed rifle rounds like .30-30 and .45-70. So yes, to spec ammo is beveled and don't have to worry too much about it if at all, American commercial ammo is likely to be squared rims.
3 up, 2 down
I am canadian and the trusty lee enfield is still to this day an awesome gun
It might be a faux sniper but the weather was definitely genuine af. Thanks.
Always nice to see one of my favorite bolt guns getting the attention it deserves
I think Ian might want to ask Karl to take up that challenge for him. Mauser sniper vs Enfield sniper on the speedway. I'd pay money to see that challenge!
After watching Henry’s original videos I purchased my own Lee Enfield to create a tribute No.4 ‘T’. Coincidentally it to is a 1943 build, 5 groove barrel. I tracked down one of the few gunsmith’s in Australia that could machine the action to mount the correct ’T’ scope pads and associated rear sight modifications. I started with a replica No.32 MkII scope, but decided that it was only good for a paper weight and replaced it with a Weaver K2.5 with the correct T post reticle. Thank you Henry and Josh for your channels insight into history.
K98 for the speedway! Great video, as always. Stay safe guys!
I own a Fazakerley Mk 4 No. 2 production stamped 4/55 with all matching serial numbered parts. Came in the original factory waxed paper and cosmoline. Was a gift from the wife for Christmas '95. With the iron sights and taking my time I regularly get 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards. My favorite rifle to target shoot and hunt with. BTW - Great channel !!!
Always interesting to see the outcome of these runs!
Holy moly i just realized you are almost at 500k subs. I remember the100k celebration video like it was not so long ago haha. Well done guys. I absolutely love this type of content.
Having meddled with .303 and 54r as well as .30-06 and 8mm, I gotta say that the rims feel like the biggest pain in the ass and makes a sizable difference for fast reloads. This has been Captain Obvious, thank you for attending my Ted talk.
I own a No4 MK I* US Property marked that I found a hunting license from Pretoria, South Africa dated 1972 in the buttstock. Still a fantastic shooting rifle. One of my favorites.
Thanks for another excellent video gentlemen. As a Canadian I've owned and shot many LE and Enfield surplus rifles over the years. They were sold for $15 each when I was a kid - they'd be in steel 45 gallon drums in the store - anyways they were relatively inexpensive and we took advantage of that. Also for years I'd pick up any straight tube El Paso Weaver scope at the local gun show as they made great .22 scopes and honestly weren't terrible on a centerfire either. Thanks for the memories as well as the entertainment.
I was really hoping the No4 would get some more screentime. Great shooting
I'm glad that you explained why you came off the scope when cycling the bolt during the run. Being able to run the action and stay on the sights is one of the big advantages of the Lee Enfield designs.
That was some incredible mad minute shooting.
Good bolt work. At the longer range you were reloaded before the previous round arrived. I have a No.4 Mk 2(F) that I picked up for $110 in slightly battered condition, but with a perfect bore. I only wish I'd picked up a cheap Mauser and Garand at the same time when Big 5 sporting goods sold such things cheaply in California.
I remember those days at big 5! $60 M44's, Enfield's etc. I wish I could go back in time.
This is my favorite weapon in SE5. Pretty damn accurate in terms of representation.
"I'd be harder to spot in that tall grass"
My personal weapon was the L42, which is the 7.62mm conversion of this rifle. I was a British army infantry sniper in the 80's
The No 4*T is still the most practical sharpshooters or snipers rifle of the war. You can "whatabout" all you like about various Mauser derived rifles of the war and claim X rifle had this or that feature which was better but almost all of them had some deficiency that made them worse than the No 4. With No 4*T the end product adds up to more than the sum of its parts. It does help that Holland & Holland knew what they were doing.
Great video. You guys do an excellent job.
Ian says some No. 32 scopes were marked with a red W later for waterproofing, addressing the humidity concerns.
Love the footage capturing the bullet swirl into the targets..
As soon as i hear the piano music i start smiling, Henry cracks me up 🤣
A good run considering all the challenges the rifle/scope combo presents with the low power non fog proof optic and the inability to use chargers. Along with the crummy weather.
I know this isn't how it was done, but in theory if you had a spare magazine, you could have it preloaded instead of fumbling with loading a magazine while you're on the clock. Kind of one of the unique advantages of this design compared to other WW2 era sniper rifles. Just something I was thinking when you were putting all those (rimmed!!) rounds one by one back into the mag before reloading. "I'm very familiar with the rifle, it's been my hunting rifle for over a decade." Whoa. Just whoa. That's cool.
It is interesting that the original Long-Lee rifles in the 1890s were designed with a chain loop to retain the magazine when removed from the rifle. The idea being a soldier under duress could empty their primary magazine, eject it to hang by its chain, then load the one spare magazine they were issued. If the engagement then required more than 20 rounds, the soldier was expected to single load - no different than the black powder single shots the whole army was using a few years prior.
However at the turn of the century these new fangled detachable magazines were seen as fiddly and damage prone, and once the Brits saw the Mauser 95 in action in the Boer Wars, they switched to leaving the magazines in the gun and using stripper clips.
Another fantastically enjoyable episode, the 650 was surprising until the explanation was given in the debrief..
Im a Enfield collector, I love this weapon system and need to get my hands on a true sniper. Love it every time someone pulls one out.
I goddamn love the Enfield. Its bolt action is something you could sit and recycle a thousand times and not get bored.
K98 next please be very interesting to compare to your M1 and enfield speedway 🙏
Great review. Just love the Enfield, the first rifle I ever fired and a truly great utilitarian weapon - with a bayonet, it makes a decent stand in for a spear, or reversed, a reasonable club.
Now, without trying to take the middle ground, for my affection has been declared, I must say both Henry and Ian are right, if only for different reasons.
Love the video. I have slate black panels and hand stop on my duty rifle. Love how they feel even with bare hands, wet hands gloved hands.
THIS is what I come to the channel for, having vintage service rifles tested at range.
This video is giving me serious flashbacks to freezing--soaked BDUs after 20 mile basic training road matches, trying desperately to qualify (while shivering) with my 'Nam-era' M-16A1 (complete with serious "battle rattle"), just so I can get the hell outta there and get warm again...
Otherwise, EXCELLENT VIDEO, gentleman!
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The SMLE (Short magazine Lee Enfield) the predecessor to this rifle had such a smooth action soldiers worked the bolt with their thumb and index finger and pulled the trigger with their middle finger. It was so easy to maintain a high rate of fire in WWI the Germans thought the British had semi auto rifles. I've owned a few over the years.
Love this video. Thank you for posting.
I would absolutely pay money to see a Henry vs Ian boxing match.
It's fun watching Henry have to feed each individual round into the magazine. It's very satisfying to watch.
I just recently inherited two of these from my uncle. He was looking to downsize his massive WW1/2 bolt action collection so I got two Mk4's, three Mosin's (Chinese, Finnish, Russian), French MAS 36, Hungarian Steyr M95, two Mausers (Turkish and Yugo).
In England this poultry drizzle is considered one fine bri'ish summer day.
Krik Krak!!! Gotta love that noise... We appreciate your sacrifice to the SETX weather overlords looool
Henry shooting a 1940's/50's era rifle better than I shoot my modern scoped rifle. Keep up the good work!
Watched this while eating a packet of Beef Hula Hoops. Spiffing.
In last year's CMP National Vintage Sniper match (bullseye match at 300 & 600yards): Of the top ten, 2 were with Swedish 41b rifles (incl #1 spot). Four others were Springfield '03 variants, one M1D Garand. The remaining rifles are unlisted. There is no evidence of Enfield #4(T) even being used in the match, at all. Could be rarity of the Enfield (or just easier to find ANY other rifle to convert over). But, your rifle is useable in that match (the rifle/scope combos are pretty specific). You could be the sole shooter next summer.
sorry: 286 shooters total in the match
A lot of them use a weaver K4 instead of original scope. Hard combo to beat.
Probably saw 10 or so SMLEs in deer camp over the years. Five or so took deer out to 100 yards with iron sites
The nice part about a rainy day at the range is, very few people there to bother you.
Henry and Ian together would always be a treat😊
I leave a comment because as I heard it makes you guys happy.
Well done with the scoped Enfield
"My hands are very cold and wet."
For an authentic experience ..... LOL
I loved the No.4. As a young cadet at school in the early 1970s I was lucky to shoot thousands of rounds all paid for by the government . Its a gun that you work with and it works with you. The more you put into it the better it is. Its difficult to describe but there is a type of symbiosis that you dont get with modern guns that do all the work for you.
I was shooting it on the school range in ~2012 for a few years and shot at Bisley a few times. Great rifle.
As one old instructor once said to me, give er some welly lad, she likes a bit of rough, she is your mistress not your girlfriend.....
Ah, the No4!
I am canadian and the lee enfield is a part of our culture to this day.. the Inuits love it for hunting to this day cause it never faulters
@@FenrisSkollErrrr...no you weren't.
@@zoiders why do you say that?
I would love to see a C&R with modern glass go up against a modern rifle with an equivalent optic
Run an off the shelf deer rifle on the "precision" rifle course. See how well an over the cou ter rifle with box ammo and a generic 5-25x scope could do.
I have a sportarized version of this rifle. It was my father's. That rifle has killed quite a lot of deer. It is amazing accurate!
Man, I had a shot at one of these a couple years ago at my buddies shop. It was a repo BSA scope build but cool as hell. I just didn't have the spare $1400 at the time
Thanks once again for the review, interesting to see on old (faux) Enfield “take the field” once again. Henry, sir; you really need to get a “Spotter” thats not sleeping or off brewing coffee while you’re engaged, hahahaha. The weather actually worked well for the video as we can watch the round rip the rain going downrange, the arc past 300 was wild. Thanks gentlemen.
This video making me want to take my No. 4 MK1 out. I purchased mine for $99 decades ago and loved it, I could shoot 3 MOA on average. All ways want to convert it to a (T).
A friend of mine used it during one of the Israeli wars. He hitched a ride on a motorcycle and rode the east to the Jordanian border, he was ordered to shut the high way down.
Rimrock is a myth! Use strippers! (or extra mags, as a Tommy would!)
As to picking a fight with Ian, I think I agree to the Enfield being a better bolt-action battle rifle, and accurate, the 6.5 Swede is probably a better cartridge over all...
For the scope vs iron in the rain issue, an M1d would be a possible test I think. Although, more shooting in near freezing rain is beyond fun... lol
I think the main takeaway from this - aside from the wonderful marksmanship, well done (I will forgive you the horrendous Scottish accent LOL) - was the reminder that the Lee Enfield was originally designed with detachable magazine use in mind, which people tend to forget. The fact that the British Army didn't follow that up with the provision of spare magazines (due to costs and the mistrust of soldiers to loss the spares) is a bit of a missed trick. Really enjoyed this, thank you.
My 1st deer rifle was a Sporterized Enfield, that I traded for a Springfield 30-06 as the ammo was a lot more cheaper easier to get and every manufacture made it.
Not as much in 303 British in 1970s S East Texas where I grew up.
Hell I used to goose hunt in Eagle Lake as a youngman and deer hunted in and around Egypt, if you know then you know.
The Enfield ammo was expensive and the Springfield was everywhere and cheap.
I think Federal and Winchester were the 2 manufactures that were available and as I remember one was one grain bullet and the other was another, and you got what you could find, I sighted in for one load then would run out of it, usually during a hunting trip to north east Texas and would have to buy the other sight it in ,again. When I could get whatever load usually (millsurp)by 100s and Never have to resight or hunt around for the same ammo.
That was an awesome run as the weather is always crappy in Texas during hunting season.
God bless you and your loved ones
Godspeed
British WW2 rifles in the rain, how fitting
pretty cool how you could clearly see the bullets arc during longer distances
Excellent video - thank you gentlemen
Love the thorough analysis.
I’d love to see an Enfield M17 and P14 play-off. Great shooting! 👍🏻
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Me missing a trash can by a tiny bit
Josh: SHORT!
It’s an occupational hazard
Very impressive!
Happy fathers day indeed! I have collected Enfields for decades and love them. Great stuff Henry!!!
I love the episodes where you guys use and discuss the WW2 era weapons. I especially enjoy your insight on the sniper platforms of the time. I happen to use the mosin nagant with the PU scope as my deer rifle. I just purchased a scoped m1903a3. I don't think it was originally a sniper but at least it has the correct redfield scope mount.
So unusual for the removal of the cartridge system due to issues of a soldiers damaging it. As no spare magazine was usual given to any soldier, nor was it recommended to remove it during training.
A British soldier was expected to fire ten rounds in a minute, from what I remember seeing somewhere. And this was done in a standing position too. How much accuracy was expected I’m not sure 💯 percent.
Excellent firing Henry once again on a rifle variant that had many different parts made outside U.K. Production also like Canada and United States helped in this in wartime use. Early Enfield’s where superior finish with a walnut finish compared to kiln dried beech.
I'm a big fan Brazillian. Hello from Brazil
9 hole reviews is the best !!👍. Mosin soon ???? 🤞
If we're seeing this now then we're bound to see the Mauser 98k return soon, I can't wait 👌
My dream rifle…. I’m surprised there isn’t a modern replica of the scope.
17:05: good tip. Look for another reference point them aim that
Have you ever or do you plan to review the M41B? I'd love to see that
Really enjoy your videos!
Guy can shoot. Nice work.
I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone drop the mag to reload an Enfield.😮
I love these old sniper reviews. Can you do the Swede M41b? Great vids!
It would be interesting, if you'll haven't already done these; would be a run with the Arisaka & Mosin-Nagant sniper version.
Learned to shoot on a No4 Mk2, and on one memorable occassion I had the chance to test it on the ranges at Bisley - with iron sights. From an experienced shooter/owner friend of mine those scopes are.....well......not particularly effective but it's a very comfortable rifle to shoot. In ideal conditions they are capable of great accuracy, but good luck trying to find the ideal set of conditions!
Good effort Sir.
(1.5/10 for the accent)
Not sure if it has been said but it would be intereting to see how the regular no. 4 compares. Whether the faster loading offsets the worst sighting system.
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That was beautiful! Nice shooting.
Rob from Britishmuzzleloaders would approve.