It all comes from Card Collector 2.He will ask do you have any room at every show at every table. So it’s perfectly acceptable in the hobby. Remember the customer is always right.
My Son and I went to a small 80ish table ahow this weekend here in Hurricane ravaged Houston. It was crazy to me that the flippers, kids, repackers were there! Half the city was 5+ days without power, but that didn't affect the bargain hunters. I was able to pick up a Mcgwire Dynasy and Micah Parsons RC Auto for decent prices.
I gotta respect the hustle. Some of these guys went from 7am to 10pm without a break during the show. Rain or shine, they are ready to buy/sell cards lol
I love this content. Very refreshing to see fellow dealers who are faced with the same problem and how they’re approaching it. As a dealer, I’m no longer offering a percentage off. I have been averaging the last couple of comps and taking off a few bucks here and there. I get complaints, but I also get buyers because some cards are tough to find.
Sounds like a dream scenario. That's how I feel often selling hockey and/or wrestling. Very seldom do I run into flippers on those cards. Most of the time it's collectors who want a fair price.
Triple, always appreciate your play by play and isnsight. As a dealer myself, it is refreshing to watch. What are you using on your backpack/bag strap to latch your GoPro on to? Thanks, Ram
Thanks for checking out the video! I've found that when I let things bother me personally, there is no positive that comes from letting those thoughts fester.
I am amazed when kids ask about a card and is willing to offer $950 for it. I, like everyone, was driven slightly mad about whether there was room on a given card was mentioned throughout.
I don't know -- seems like 1400 is high for the Burrow...I don't see any sales near that, so it does kind of seem like you aren't willing to negotiate much, or as you say, "you got your number"...
I was willing to take $1400 on the Bryce Young and $1250 on the Joe Burrow color blast. The six sales on Burrow are 1175, 1326, 1200, 1158, 1500, 1180. Average of those six are around 1260.
@@ictsportscards9065 Who says I have to sell that card on eBay and that I would get that price? I could get more, I could also get less. Never a guarantee. If you have any color blasts that you want to sell at 85% of the last sale please let me know though lol.
I understand your “issue” but it sounds like you’re whining that people aren’t saying “well the comps are…”. Isn’t this better. I feel like it’s semantics, because everyone wants the best price. I like your videos and the counter was funny, but I think it’s better that people are asking this instead of just trying to tell you what the value or price of your card should be. Just my opinion.
Thank you for your comment. I certainly prefer this over people trying to "educate" me on what my cards are worth if I had to choose between the two. My intention was to point out a couple of things. First, it's interesting to me how a lot of these guys ask the same question, the same way, with the exact same approach and largely the same cards. Second, the room or best price questions are tedious after awhile. If I didn't have anything priced, that would be one thing. However, everything is clearly labeled with a price sticker asking what I would like to be compensated for my card. I joke with a few friends that I don't put the price stickers on there to make my showcase look colorful and pretty lol. Basically, as a dealer, I would prefer if someone just makes their offer. If they want to make money off the cards, that's their prerogative after we shake hands and I send them on their way with their new cards. What I don't want to do is concern myself with leaving them enough "meat on the bone" to profit off of the cards. The only time I consider that is when I am walking a show and approaching a dealer's table on my own initiative. I should've explained that better in the video, perhaps in a separate one at some point in time.
Does anyone buy anything without having to look up comps anymore? lol. I bought 12 cards at the last two national card shows, and looked up 1 of them. You would think if you bought all the time you would know the price range by now. Boggles my mind
So let's say your buying joe burrow rookie autos the whole summer. You don't already know what the low end sticker autos sell for. The on card Auto range, and then the patch Auto range without looking it up?
@@brad8671 Sure if you're focused on 1 specific card. I made 8 different deals at a show yesterday totalling probably 50 cards. Going into that show I was not looking for any of those but if the price is right based off 'comps,' I'm buying.
@@rockonufa02 I get looking up something your not familiar with. But I see guys buying the same 3 players all summer, I would think you would have good feel for what they go for based on brand, Auto, low numbered, especially if I was doing it as a business. But I could be alone here.
Absolutely not, in fact I'm more surprised when someone takes a card without making an offer. The "have room" question is usually one that is asked by someone looking to make money off of the cards, which is why I point it out.
@@JG-nz3kp Pretty much. It's not one size fits all, of course. After awhile of seeing the same (types of) people doing the same thing with the same outcomes, I've found that I can usually tell what someone's intentions are based on their word choices.
Tbh if you’re really annoyed about the do you have room question you should just put a big sign that says all of your prices are firm. No one is going to come to a table and not negotiate. You would do the same thing as a seller on the other side. No point blasting people who are asking if you have a room and doing basic negotiations. Love the channel but thing it doesn’t make sense tbh.
Perhaps I presented it in the wrong way or should've clarified. My issue is not with the question itself or someone inquiring if I am flexible on my pricing, it's a fair ask. The issue I have are those who complain they don't have enough "room" to make money off of my cards. I don't care what anyone does with a card they bought from me after they purchase it, to each their own. If they flip it, good for them. However, the "room" question is almost always followed by one of my pet peeves. I get educated on what the last one went for even though I already know and usually they are looking for the lowest sale they can find. I get told there's not enough meat on the bone for them, which would be understandable if they were a dealer I was approaching but that's not the case. They want to put the burden of them making money on me lol.
It is not the responsibility of the dealer to leave meat on the bone for buyers. What they do with the cards after purchasing them is entirely on them.
The question itself is trying to get the seller to negotiate against his/her best interest. That isn’t fair if the dealer/seller has already taken the time to price his/her cards. That is the starting point. Now if you don’t have your cards priced and don’t know their value. Then you should expect those types of questions. It’s a buying tactic that’s used. As a seller you have to answer appropriately enough to not counter your sticker but rather a legit offer from a buyer.
@@mikecrow.1 Sellers aren't obligated to sell you their stuff based on what the very last comp was. Or the lowest comp. Or a percentage of the lowest comp. Just throw an offer out without the big preamble or air of entitlement.
@@andrewsmith7523 Current market value isn't entitlement lol. Nobody said be a d*ck about it but most sellers who actually want to make sales understand that's the game we're all in right now.
It is admittedly tiresome. Out of the 1000 times I hear it, maybe 10 times is there actually a sale I'm unaware of. Then out of those 10 times, I'm likely to change my stance on my ask maybe once or twice. The funny thing is nobody ever says that when I'm below what the last one sold for lol.
isn’t that the point to try and make money off the cards. It’s supposed to be everybody gets a little wiggle room no one is tryna pay full comps or the average of 5-6 sales when your average is higher then the last 2 recent sales or even at full comps. I have nothing against you Or any other dealers I just don’t understand why dealers get upset about people asking cheaper prices bc isn’t that what you do ask for cheaper prices to sell higher. Everybody has to make money or else the people buying at comps are losing on every single purchase they make and every single time they trade or sell they make they are losing even harder. Just my thoughts
Sports cards are a hobby for the vast majority of people. Almost everyone has to sell at some point, but there are collectors out there who are buying cards for the sake of owning them, not to make money off of them. Sure, they don't buy them hoping they go to zero. At the same time, they aren't motivated by money. I don't mind if someone makes money off my cards or asking for a discount. What they do with them after they purchase them is none of my business. What I do take exception to, though, is when people come up to my table and make it my problem that they need to make money off of my cards. All of this when I'm the one who put in the time, effort, and costs to come set up at these shows (they are not free). Yet if I come up to them looking to buy, they aren't giving out the same discounts they are asking for. I say that because it's happened to me many times. Unfortunately, there are going to be people who lose money. If everyone buys at or below the last sale, that only makes the problem worse since no card would ever increase in value. For those who don't care about the cards or the hobby, that's no problem. Maybe I'm lame or whatever, but I really care.
@@TripleCrown24 your not lame, I’m just saying my thoughts and what I think. I watch so many TH-camrs that do the card shows I spend countless time watching these videos and in the end I see the same stuff. A lot of the cards go down in value and it gets even worse when u try to sell as everyone wants 80% or more that’s why I don’t even grab cards I just watch videos now adays. Thanks for the time you put in making the videos
It all comes from Card Collector 2.He will ask do you have any room at every show at every table. So it’s perfectly acceptable in the hobby. Remember the customer is always right.
“The customer is always right, in matters of taste” don’t forget the second half of the quote just to fit a narrative 😉
super cool to see the seller's perspective at one of these shows
Love it!
"No I don't have room, my showcases are barely hanging on the end of this table" 🤭
Ha! Good one
I think "I'll listen to an offer" is the perfect response.
It's the most diplomatic way I can handle it!
My Son and I went to a small 80ish table ahow this weekend here in Hurricane ravaged Houston. It was crazy to me that the flippers, kids, repackers were there! Half the city was 5+ days without power, but that didn't affect the bargain hunters. I was able to pick up a Mcgwire Dynasy and Micah Parsons RC Auto for decent prices.
I gotta respect the hustle. Some of these guys went from 7am to 10pm without a break during the show. Rain or shine, they are ready to buy/sell cards lol
Love this type of content! Great video.
Thanks!
I love this content. Very refreshing to see fellow dealers who are faced with the same problem and how they’re approaching it. As a dealer, I’m no longer offering a percentage off. I have been averaging the last couple of comps and taking off a few bucks here and there. I get complaints, but I also get buyers because some cards are tough to find.
Thank you for your continued support of the channel, it does not go unnoticed. I'm glad you are standing your ground!
Great job my friend
It’s not your responsibility to give someone else room on a card you own. Great video!
Thanks!
Couldn’t have said it better!
Definitely annoying as a dealer. I’ve shifted to Jordan cards… you pay full comps… and flippers don’t even bother to buy thankfully.
Sounds like a dream scenario. That's how I feel often selling hockey and/or wrestling. Very seldom do I run into flippers on those cards. Most of the time it's collectors who want a fair price.
Meat on the Bone!
Triple, always appreciate your play by play and isnsight. As a dealer myself, it is refreshing to watch. What are you using on your backpack/bag strap to latch your GoPro on to? Thanks, Ram
Thank you! It's a chest mount harness, doesn't have to be attached to a bag or anything similar
It's incredible how many times I hear got any room myself
Love these videos JT!
Thanks!
Soooo…..do you have any room? You never gave me a straight answer. 🤪😂
The world may never know
New viewer. I really l8ke your content. More importantly, I like that you don't any comments personally.
Thanks for checking out the video! I've found that when I let things bother me personally, there is no positive that comes from letting those thoughts fester.
I am amazed when kids ask about a card and is willing to offer $950 for it. I, like everyone, was driven slightly mad about whether there was room on a given card was mentioned throughout.
I was at the show and stopped by your table. Your stuff was for sure fairly priced. I saw a bunch of cards that were way over priced
Thank you!
Looks like a lot of fun, but tiring.😅
It was a good time once I had some rest and caffeine the next day lol
I don't know -- seems like 1400 is high for the Burrow...I don't see any sales near that, so it does kind of seem like you aren't willing to negotiate much, or as you say, "you got your number"...
I was willing to take $1400 on the Bryce Young and $1250 on the Joe Burrow color blast. The six sales on Burrow are 1175, 1326, 1200, 1158, 1500, 1180. Average of those six are around 1260.
Sounds like you have a future as a landlord with all the folks asking for rooms.
Ha!
"Last one did $1175... Would you do like $950 on it?"
Send the asteroid
Lmao!
Yeah what’s the issue with that offer? 85% is 999. Don’t have to list it, ship it, pay insurance and you get cash.
@@ictsportscards9065 Who says I have to sell that card on eBay and that I would get that price? I could get more, I could also get less. Never a guarantee. If you have any color blasts that you want to sell at 85% of the last sale please let me know though lol.
85% is not the standard by any means. Buyers are not entitled to a percentage discount.
I understand your “issue” but it sounds like you’re whining that people aren’t saying “well the comps are…”. Isn’t this better. I feel like it’s semantics, because everyone wants the best price. I like your videos and the counter was funny, but I think it’s better that people are asking this instead of just trying to tell you what the value or price of your card should be. Just my opinion.
Thank you for your comment. I certainly prefer this over people trying to "educate" me on what my cards are worth if I had to choose between the two. My intention was to point out a couple of things. First, it's interesting to me how a lot of these guys ask the same question, the same way, with the exact same approach and largely the same cards. Second, the room or best price questions are tedious after awhile. If I didn't have anything priced, that would be one thing. However, everything is clearly labeled with a price sticker asking what I would like to be compensated for my card. I joke with a few friends that I don't put the price stickers on there to make my showcase look colorful and pretty lol.
Basically, as a dealer, I would prefer if someone just makes their offer. If they want to make money off the cards, that's their prerogative after we shake hands and I send them on their way with their new cards. What I don't want to do is concern myself with leaving them enough "meat on the bone" to profit off of the cards. The only time I consider that is when I am walking a show and approaching a dealer's table on my own initiative. I should've explained that better in the video, perhaps in a separate one at some point in time.
What's the best you can do???
What's the absolute lowest you'll take???
What up TC24
I get tired of all the flippers and the kids who are greedy, I worked at my LCS for years and mentally drained me. So I’m only a collector
Draining is a good way to describe it at times, I'm sorry to hear that was your experience
Does anyone buy anything without having to look up comps anymore? lol. I bought 12 cards at the last two national card shows, and looked up 1 of them. You would think if you bought all the time you would know the price range by now. Boggles my mind
Prices change way too much if you’re not familiar with a card. There’s millions of cards. You have access to information, why not use it?
There's millions of cards and prices change everyday, good for you though for having them all memorized!
So let's say your buying joe burrow rookie autos the whole summer. You don't already know what the low end sticker autos sell for. The on card Auto range, and then the patch Auto range without looking it up?
@@brad8671 Sure if you're focused on 1 specific card. I made 8 different deals at a show yesterday totalling probably 50 cards. Going into that show I was not looking for any of those but if the price is right based off 'comps,' I'm buying.
@@rockonufa02 I get looking up something your not familiar with. But I see guys buying the same 3 players all summer, I would think you would have good feel for what they go for based on brand, Auto, low numbered, especially if I was doing it as a business. But I could be alone here.
I don't know how you do what you do. I feel like I would just be annoyed the entire time.
Patience, caffeine, and Advil, not necessarily in that order!
@@TripleCrown24 haha
Do you expect too sell all your cards at your full sticker price???
Absolutely not, in fact I'm more surprised when someone takes a card without making an offer. The "have room" question is usually one that is asked by someone looking to make money off of the cards, which is why I point it out.
@TripleCrown24 oh I hear ya, interesting, so their wording tells you if they are buying to flip
@@JG-nz3kp Pretty much. It's not one size fits all, of course. After awhile of seeing the same (types of) people doing the same thing with the same outcomes, I've found that I can usually tell what someone's intentions are based on their word choices.
Tbh if you’re really annoyed about the do you have room question you should just put a big sign that says all of your prices are firm. No one is going to come to a table and not negotiate. You would do the same thing as a seller on the other side. No point blasting people who are asking if you have a room and doing basic negotiations. Love the channel but thing it doesn’t make sense tbh.
Perhaps I presented it in the wrong way or should've clarified. My issue is not with the question itself or someone inquiring if I am flexible on my pricing, it's a fair ask. The issue I have are those who complain they don't have enough "room" to make money off of my cards. I don't care what anyone does with a card they bought from me after they purchase it, to each their own. If they flip it, good for them.
However, the "room" question is almost always followed by one of my pet peeves. I get educated on what the last one went for even though I already know and usually they are looking for the lowest sale they can find. I get told there's not enough meat on the bone for them, which would be understandable if they were a dealer I was approaching but that's not the case. They want to put the burden of them making money on me lol.
It is not the responsibility of the dealer to leave meat on the bone for buyers. What they do with the cards after purchasing them is entirely on them.
The question itself is trying to get the seller to negotiate against his/her best interest. That isn’t fair if the dealer/seller has already taken the time to price his/her cards. That is the starting point. Now if you don’t have your cards priced and don’t know their value. Then you should expect those types of questions. It’s a buying tactic that’s used. As a seller you have to answer appropriately enough to not counter your sticker but rather a legit offer from a buyer.
Can't imagine how frustrating it must be hearing "last one did x" over and over and over.
That's how the market works though...
@@mikecrow.1 Sellers aren't obligated to sell you their stuff based on what the very last comp was. Or the lowest comp. Or a percentage of the lowest comp.
Just throw an offer out without the big preamble or air of entitlement.
@@andrewsmith7523 Current market value isn't entitlement lol. Nobody said be a d*ck about it but most sellers who actually want to make sales understand that's the game we're all in right now.
@@andrewsmith7523 I sell at shows multiple times a month
It is admittedly tiresome. Out of the 1000 times I hear it, maybe 10 times is there actually a sale I'm unaware of. Then out of those 10 times, I'm likely to change my stance on my ask maybe once or twice. The funny thing is nobody ever says that when I'm below what the last one sold for lol.
isn’t that the point to try and make money off the cards. It’s supposed to be everybody gets a little wiggle room no one is tryna pay full comps or the average of 5-6 sales when your average is higher then the last 2 recent sales or even at full comps. I have nothing against you Or any other dealers I just don’t understand why dealers get upset about people asking cheaper prices bc isn’t that what you do ask for cheaper prices to sell higher. Everybody has to make money or else the people buying at comps are losing on every single purchase they make and every single time they trade or sell they make they are losing even harder. Just my thoughts
Sports cards are a hobby for the vast majority of people. Almost everyone has to sell at some point, but there are collectors out there who are buying cards for the sake of owning them, not to make money off of them. Sure, they don't buy them hoping they go to zero. At the same time, they aren't motivated by money.
I don't mind if someone makes money off my cards or asking for a discount. What they do with them after they purchase them is none of my business. What I do take exception to, though, is when people come up to my table and make it my problem that they need to make money off of my cards. All of this when I'm the one who put in the time, effort, and costs to come set up at these shows (they are not free). Yet if I come up to them looking to buy, they aren't giving out the same discounts they are asking for. I say that because it's happened to me many times.
Unfortunately, there are going to be people who lose money. If everyone buys at or below the last sale, that only makes the problem worse since no card would ever increase in value. For those who don't care about the cards or the hobby, that's no problem. Maybe I'm lame or whatever, but I really care.
@@TripleCrown24 your not lame, I’m just saying my thoughts and what I think. I watch so many TH-camrs that do the card shows I spend countless time watching these videos and in the end I see the same stuff. A lot of the cards go down in value and it gets even worse when u try to sell as everyone wants 80% or more that’s why I don’t even grab cards I just watch videos now adays. Thanks for the time you put in making the videos
@@runitupsilver8921 Thank you for taking the time to leave your thoughts and watching the videos!